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Could nationwide concealed carry reciprocity finally be gaining momentum? President Donald Trump certainly gave gun owners reason for optimism this week.
Speaking at a rally Tuesday at the Mack Trucks facility in Macungie, Pennsylvania, Trump was joined by NRA President Bill Bachenberg when the conversation turned to one of the biggest priorities in the gun-rights world: national right-to-carry legislation.
According to reporting by American Rifleman, Bachenberg asked Trump whether he supports nationwide carry reciprocity.
The crowd’s response came before Trump could finish the question.
How do you feel about national right to carry?” Trump asked.
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The audience erupted in cheers.
“That’s my free poll,” Trump joked. “You know what that is? That’s a free poll. I don’t have to pay $300,000 to somebody that doesn’t even do polling… National right to carry… Yeah, we’re working on it.”
That simple statement immediately grabbed the attention of 2A advocates.
Trump also praised the NRA for its longtime support, telling the crowd the organization has stood by him “right from the beginning.”
They always give me their endorsement because I saved the Second Amendment,” Trump said. “You think it’s easy? On occasion, it was not easy.”
For supporters of national reciprocity, Trump’s comments represent another public commitment to legislation that has been discussed for years.
As American Rifleman noted, Trump previously said during an Oval Office interview in 2020 that he would sign a national reciprocity bill if one reached his desk.
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The legislation receiving the most attention remains the NRA-backed Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act (H.R. 38 and S. 65). If enacted, the bill would allow people with valid concealed carry permits (or residents of constitutional carry states) to carry concealed firearms in other states where concealed carry is legal.
Supporters argue it’s a simple extension of constitutional rights.
After all, your First Amendment rights don’t disappear when you cross a state line. Neither do your Fourth or Fifth Amendment protections.
Many of us ask why the Second Amendment should be treated differently.
The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed that law-abiding Americans have an individual right to keep and bear arms through decisions like Heller, McDonald, and Bruen. Even so, concealed carry laws still vary dramatically from state to state, leaving travelers to navigate a patchwork of regulations.
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— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) June 23, 2026
This would be an absolutely HUGE step towards bringing back the true meaning of the Second Amendment
LFG! Keep pushing for this, POTUS! pic.twitter.com/Jd8okQYgqY
Whether Congress can gather enough votes to move national reciprocity remains an open question.
But if Trump’s comments are any indication, the administration appears interested in trying.
For millions of gun owners who have long supported nationwide reciprocity, hearing the president say “we’re working on it” was likely the most encouraging part of the speech.
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I would never call myself a socialist, >>YOU<< said the following when addressing Blue Dog and myself: " Thanks for the compliment in regards to thinking I am AI. That is certainly a first. I am in reality a Far Right Socialist and proud of it simply because History is on my side. Too bad both of you flunked History 101."
How does my quoting you somehow infer I am calling myself a socialist? You have a pattern of misdirection, deflection and complete BS replies.
A Far Right Socialist, as you say YOU are, a Marxist with Nazi tendencies of authoritarian tendencies. Definition: the label is often used to describe groups or individuals who combine ultranationalist, anti-democratic, and racially exclusionary views with socialist-sounding rhetoric to appeal to certain constituencies.
As for the rest of your reply, pretty much dishonest is the most complimentary rebuttal I can give you.
Couldn’t get the HEARING Protection Act out of committee, let alone up for a bicameral vote….good luck on this
Would like to see this put to vote in Congress!! But that would expose them. No democrat will vote for it of course, but it would be interesting to see who the rinos are??
It has less chance of passing that a snowball surviving in Hell. In the first place every state has its own requirements for carrying a gun either concealed or open carry and no one travelling would qualify in most of those states to carry. There is no way the States will give this right up on either the Far Right or the Far Left.
In reality one of the reasons the States joined the Federal Government was because the Feds told them they had the right to form their own militia’s to murder slaves if they revolted (the real meaning of the Second Amendment as it had zero to do with an individuals right to own a firearm, see the book “The Second Amendment” by Carrol Anderson”), in fact some States even confiscated guns from people who did not tow “the party line” further proving that the 2nd was over the right to form a State Militia which not only enabled them to murder slaves but protect themselves from the Federal Government overreach pertaining to a variety of other laws.
It is true the conniving Founders deliberately wrote 2A in the vaguest of terms so they fooled a lot of people into believing the individual had a right to own a firearm but it also left the Courts the right to “regulate” firearms as clarified and codified much later in time with the Scalia Decision which was at first hailed by the Morons on the Far Right not realizing they actually lost more than they gained.
After being suckered into joining the Union over time the National Guard was “Federalized” and the Feds declared that States rights over gun laws were ended. Doubt my word? There was recently even talk in one State of making and selling machine guns to the public which went over like a lead balloon with the Feds who of course control all of the money grants to States for highway maintenance, education, and dozens of other Social Programs. After that there was suddenly no State chest thumping on full auto sales. In other words rather than the Feds starting a Constitutional crisis over whether the States or the Feds had supreme authority over gun laws the Feds simply threatened to pull Federal money from the States and that was the end of that foolishness over full auto sales.
Despite all of this the Blue States which have traditionally pushed for tough gun laws to keep criminals and lunatics and interactionalists from easily obtaining firearms on the used gun market versus the Red States who want zero gun laws because they do not care how many innocent people get slaughtered every year, the last count averaging each year about 45,000 people who the Far Right Consider simply expendable on the depraved altar of zero gun control.
Neither side really wants to create a Constitutional crisis over the right to carry a weapon while crossing state lines.
National Reciprocity is dead in the water before it even leaves the boat dock.
And I might add the Feds never give up absolute power over you from the Far Right or from the Far Left if they can get away with it. They rule from the city of Stratus located high up in the clouds as they look down on the worker troglodyte slaves who are the only ones that actually have to pay taxes, not the super rich who insult of insults go so far as to even steal the workers tax money in the form of Corporate Subsidies (Corporate Welfare) and pay zero taxes to boot as when Amazon makes 2 billion and pays zero taxes. It has been estimated that if the Super Corporations paid taxes Social Security Wages could be doubled and the fund be solvent for another 50 years.
If President Eisenhower were still alive today (who by the way taxed the hell out of the super rich) he would be labeled a RINO today and loathed by the Far Right. This is how depraved the Far Right has become.
And after the upcoming Mid-terms Herr Drumpf (The Donald) has pissed so many people off, even including his glazed eyed Maga Morons that he will become a lame duck President even if he survives imprisonment over the next 2 years.
—In the first place every state has its own requirements for carrying a gun either concealed or open carry and no one travelling would qualify in most of those states to carry.—
Do States have different qualifications for the other Amendments to the Constitution as well they can enforce? Why is the 2A different than the rest?
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—It is true the conniving Founders deliberately wrote 2A in the vaguest of terms so they fooled a lot of people into believing the individual had a right to own a firearm but it also left the Courts the right to “regulate” firearms as clarified and codified much later in time with the Scalia Decision which was at first hailed by the Morons on the Far Right not realizing they actually lost more than they gained.—
Vague? The 2A seems pretty direct, if you understand that the Bill of Rights is a limit on government.
All of your praise about the benefits Europeans enjoy, you forget how they are able to do so. It is not the way they tax, it is the way they have depended on the US to provide the majority of their defense costs since the end of WWII. Had we not spent trillions more in their defense than they have, we could have better provided for ourselves. This is a great argument for spending less on them and more on us.
—The U.S. now spends more money on the Military Industrial Complex (President Eisenhower warned us about) than all that is spent by China, Russia, and North Korea.—
Remember the military spending is used as one resource we give Europeans for their defense ability.
—One of the few times I agreed with Trump was when he said the European Counties have cradle to grave security because they pay so little for their own defense because we are paying it for them. — At least you get it, but ypou failed to attribute that in your discourse about the ill of the US.
—In reality one of the reasons the States joined the Federal Government was because the Feds told them they had the right to form their own militia’s to murder slaves if they revolted (the real meaning of the Second Amendment as it had zero to do with an individuals right to own a firearm, see the book “The Second Amendment” by Carrol Anderson”), —
Nothing in the Constitutional debates, the Federalist Papers or the Anti Federalists rebuttals give any idea of such a claim. In fact, if you were to read those writings, they say exactly what our Founders were discussing. Even in the debates of the 14A the common understanding was it was an individual right as stated by the Radical Republicans.
quote——————————–Nothing in the Constitutional debates, the Federalist Papers or the Anti Federalists rebuttals give any idea of such a claim. In fact, if you were to read those writings, they say exactly what our Founders were discussing. Even in the debates of the 14A the common understanding was it was an individual right as stated by the Radical Republicans.————quote
Carol Anderson in her book “The Second Amendment” states that surviving letters from Thomas Jefferson and James Madison prove they were terrified that the slave revolt that started and was still going on in Haiti at the time would spread to the U.S. because many of the Haitian Slave Owners were fleeing to the U.S. and brining along some of their slaves. The Feds knew this, and the States new this as the news spread like wildfire and the Feds used this racist slave panic as a carrot to entice the States to join the Union. None of this had to be written down in the Constitution as it was the current reality of the times they lived in.
quote—————Remember the military spending is used as one resource we give Europeans for their defense ability.———quote
Well no shit Dick Tracy so what is your point. You have none because as Eisenhower said the Military Industrial Complex was a danger to the U.S. The money blown on the U.S. Military which also now results in our spending 52 cents out of every tax dollar and our military who now occupies 55 countries with our Jackboots on the ground far exceeds the number of countries that Hitler invaded during WWII. All this money could be used to pay livable wages for people on Social Security as well as fund a National Health Care Plan which all the other civilized countries have enjoyed for decades, most since 1949 and in Germany in 1895 and Norway in 1900.
Quote——————Vague? The 2A seems pretty direct, if you understand that the Bill of Rights is a limit on government.——–quote
Oh spin another tall tail Sledge.
The Second as been debated about by Congress and the Courts since it was first signed into law. For decades the Supreme Court was to terrified of the political fallout to even rule on anything about it. That is hardly what I would call an Amendment that was “direct”. In fact it was a cleverly designed statement to fool the uneducated they had gun rights that history has proven never existed. Doubt my word?????? Well now its time for a History Lesson. There were an avalanche of anti-gun laws on the books before the Revolution and long before 2A was ever written and none, zero, Nada, Zilch was rescinded after 2A became law, in fact they only became more and more numerous up to an including the present day. In other words 2A was a bad joke to the courts and they simply ignored it. Even the disingenuous Scalia Decision long heralded by the Far Right was smoke and mirrors and stated in plain English that the courts had the right to “regulate” gun laws, double speak for ban or restrict firearms. That is how worthless 2A is and always has been. It is the courts that grant you gun rights, not 2A when we look at history and reality.
quote—————Do States have different qualifications for the other Amendments to the Constitution as well they can enforce? Why is the 2A different than the rest?————-quote
Good gosh Sledge have you been asleep for the last 250 years of U.S. History?????? There is no Constitutional right that is absolute, none whatsoever. You cannot yell fire in a theater and get away with causing the deaths of innocent people. You cannot build your own Atomic Bomb, You cannot make and use poison gas on your neighbor and his dog for pissing on your lawn. You cannot take out a full page add in a Newspaper recommending the mass genocide of a race or religion you do not like, much to the sorrow of Trump and his Maga Strom Troopers. You cannot manufacture and sell machine guns or grenades to the general public. I could go on but by now I am sure you must “get the picture”.
See my above post Sledge because your rebuttal did not work.
We already have national CCW reciprocity: Its called the 2nd Amendment.
Also, when Trump says: “National right to carry… Yeah, we’re working on it.” Who exactly is “we’re”?
Most R senators are worthless RINOS.
Most representatives are against the will of the people, and…
The NRA is a mostly feckless glob of self absorbed do-nothings.
Don’t hold your breath, the man lies constantly. Just trying to get back on the 2A side after doing NOTHING for gun rights.
Your a liberal. Why do you care about the second amendment ?? You don’t. Guns scare you. You just needed to show your tds.
Bret I have been a NRA and Second Amendment member for years. I shoot competitively own multiple firearms and have put thousands for rounds downrange. Trump could have backed national reciprocity on his first day in office.(Both terms) He could have removed suppressors from the NFA restrictions but has done nothing to help gun owners. The man lied to get the 2A community’s vote. He is a habitual lying narcissist who does not want an armed population who could oppose his agenda. The second amendment was included in the Constitution to protect the first amendment and to give American citizens the power to resist government tyranny which is what is happening under the Trump administration. As to tds I agree Trump is deranged and needs to be remover from office.
Being a long time gunner I have been asking for National CC since I was 24, and in my 50 years of asking, Nothing Has Happened. Now we might have a chance with Trump, The Chumb but do not hold your breath. Over the last 50 years I have CC and actually paid to play in SD when they first brought out The CC Permit about 45 years ago, and yes there was a back ground check which I did not mind. Today I do worry a little more as there are a lot more people on our Earth, and a lot more nut jobs, but who am I to judge!
This is really starting to make me laugh. The constitution clearly states,” Shall not be infringed “. Start there!
Now the men that wrote the constitution. The losers sitting in dc making up laws and rules to fit their narrative, not,”We the peoples “, interest.
The forefathers were all felons and criminals. You can thank those men for the Constitution and the freedoms we enjoy. If you can live free then you can carry and own firearms. Think about it people. If you don’t like the FREEDOM that you enjoy, the get out. No one is forcing you to stay in the greatest country on earth. Why do you think people from all over the world, from all walks of life, flock here.
Perhaps it’s time to stand up and defend the USA 🇺🇸.
The forefathers would have been stacking bodies by now. The corruption, the government all the agencies who are trying to disarm you. People have been dying for your rights for centuries and yall want to just let these clowns take them. Disgusting!
Jethro Bob either you are the most ignorant man in the U.S. or you are in need of serious mental health care. Lets explore your ridiculous rants and fantasies that the U.S. is still the best place in the world to live in. LMAO
As far as 2A see my post below on the real history and truth of 2A and why it was really past. It was not about the individuals right to own a firearm. Again read my below post on this.
quote————No one is forcing you to stay in the greatest country on earth. Why do you think people from all over the world, from all walks of life, flock here.———-quote
Wrong Jethro Bob. In reality you could not pay the people of Western Europe to come and live in the U.S. and believe it or not I have had some people in the poorer Eastern European States tell me the same.
The real facts are we are no longer the greatest country in the world to live in.
In the civilized world heath care is a right not a privilege of the super rich and people do not die in the street like dogs because they cannot even afford preventive health care or live saving drugs or live saving operations. Good God Bob do you never watch the nightly news about the people the Insurance industry screws out of much needed health care????? Why do you think no flowers were placed after the Insurance Executive was gunned down by Luigi Mangione and he was hailed by millions of Americans as an anti-hero. Young women are flocking to his court appearances.
People in Western Europe who are unskilled labor makes more money per hour and get both double and triple time on holidays and weekend work. Something almost now extinct in the U.S. In France Sunday work is allowed near Paris and is now paying $33.00 an hour for unskilled labor. Try and get Walmart to pay you that for Sunday work.
The average holidays in Europe are 1 month of holidays and a newly hired employee immediately gets 4 weeks vacation and in Japan it is 6 weeks vacation and with seniority vacation time is 3 months while here in Capitalvania many people get no paid holidays off and no vacation time they are worker troglodyte slaves.
Crime and mass murder are a fraction of what they are in the U.S. because of tough gun laws in Europe and Asia and by the way some of those countries actually have full auto ownership of new made weapons that was outlawed by your former living God President Reagan a Republican.
People retire sooner in Europe and and in some of the Asian Countries and get much higher Social Security benefits besides their survivors getting a lump sum balance of their left over Social Security money when they die as opposed to having it stolen by the government as is done in the U.S. of Capitalvania
Education is largely paid for in Europe including college and technical school. Here in Capitalvania students go bankrupt for life after being ripped off while in college with tuition so obscene it would make Al Capone an amateur if he was still living.
Health care is paid for in the civilized countries and no one goes bankrupt or dies like a dog in the street because he cannot afford life saving drugs or a needed operation.
Gun massacres and homicides are just a fraction of what they are in the U.S. because civilized countries have tough gun laws that keep guns for the most part out of the hands of criminals and lunatics. I could give you dozens of incidents in Europe which were stopped before they started because of tough gun laws. In the U.S. where 45,000 people a year are gunned downed are considered expendable by the depraved Far Right who actually want zero gun laws. These Far Right Lunatics are actually that insane. No where in the civilized world can you buy deadly second hand weapons with zero paperwork, just give me the cash pal and the weapon is yours no questions asked.
In Europe a naturalized citizen has “full rights” while here in Capitalvania he remains a second class citizen. He cannot run for President.
In Europe leaders are elected by the majority or the elections is held over and no they do not have mob rule as their courts uphold their constitutional rights of everyone including minorities. In Europe the voters rule and have a direct say in their own government and destiny. In the U.S. of Capitalvania the super rich control what the crooked politicians actually do. Now even the Supreme Court admitted they get payoffs and they will continue to receive payouts because there is no law that prevents them from being as corrupt as the Politicians are. Too add insult to injury the Supreme Court saved a corrupt Republican Governor from going to Federal prison for receiving payouts because he received the payoffs “after” a favorable law was passed for them not “before” it was passed. Now bribery is completely legal especially for the Supreme Court.
In some European countries you can vote from your computer and all have mail in voting now being threatened by the Jackboot Herr Drumpf (The Donald) who is now doing everything possible to prevent as many people as possible from voting in the up coming mid terms. He is trying to end mail in voting, has already pulled drop off boxes so people have to drive as far as 100 miles to vote, has closed poling places in working class districts and reduced the number of mail sorting machines to hold up mail in votes so they are not delivered in time to be counted in the election. Its right out of Nazi Germany or his super hero Putin’s Russia. Herr Drumpf ( original German family name) has stated he was a great admirer of Adolf Hitler and one of his wives revealed he for years kept a copy of Mein Kampf at his bedside.
The U.S. now spends more money on the Military Industrial Complex (President Eisenhower warned us about) than all that is spent by China, Russia, and North Korea. We have Jackboots now occupying over 55 countries in the world and counting. Herr Drumpf has stated before he leaves office Cuba, Venezuela and Greenland are now on his hit list. Greenland is part of NATO which means the U.S. would be invading a fellow NATO Country which is about insane as you can get, especially since Greenland lets us do about anything we want in their country. The number of countries now occupied dwarf the countries Nazi Germany occupied. All this is why we have no paid for Health Care or paid for Education.
One of the few times I agreed with Trump was when he said the European Counties have cradle to grave security because they pay so little for their own defense because we are paying it for them. Too their credit they are now spending a lot more on defense and giving a lot more weapons to the Ukraine because unlike the idiot Trump they realize how dangerous the mad man Putin is to all of Europe.
Try again Jethro Bob you were out fishing when other students were studying hard to pass exams at school. Not to mention you let Foxy News do all your thinking for you.
Interesting, straight to calling me out of my name. That says everything about your democratic view, as well as who and what you’re as a person. And the second amendment isn’t vague by any means. If you’re so ignorant as not not understand each amendment and their numerical order, then you’re just another clown that needs to get out.if you don’t believe this is the greatest country on earth you and your Hollywood liberal socialites can get out and don’t come back. So take your psycho babble and get on a plane. Bye
You can lead a Hillbilly to knowledge but you cannot make him think.
You had zero rebuttal to all the points I made proving that the U.S. is “not” the best country in the world to live in anymore.
dacian is NOT “just another clown.” dacian is the most toxin clown you may ever have the misfortune to cross paths with now that Gacy is dead.
Yes the truth hurts doesn’t Kane you traitor to America who supported Herr Drumpf’s attempt to take over the Government by force on January 6th and establish a Far Right Nazi Dictatorship with Herr Drumpf as Der Fuhrer.
Now the Texas Nazi’s are trying to force children in school to be indoctrinated into the Christian Religion when many of them are of faiths that are “not” Christian. Sounds like people like you are now mimicking the Muslim Far Right Fanatics who try and force Islam on people not of their Muslim faith in the Middle East. Show me the difference between the Christian Fanatics and the Muslim Fanatics. Do not misunderstand me many American Christians believe this is totally Unconstitutional and Many Muslims in the U.S. and also in the Middle East also believe that one has the right to chose which religion he will belong to.
The worst enemy of our Country and our Constitution is the Far Right who want to destroy the 1st Amendment, create a Far right Dictatorship and want to establish a Christian Caliphate which goes counter to our American tradition of the “Separation of Church and State” established by the Founders who were far from being Christian as many were either Deists or were Realists.
As a matter of fact one of the most anti-religious and most famous of the Revolutionary Patriots was Thomas Paine whose book, “The Age Of Reason” was a hilarious attack on Religion. The real tragedy of the Revolution was that the Far Right for way too many years tried to ignore Paine and his contributions to the Revolution because he refused to tow the Far Right Party line in regards to religion and the right of a person to chose or not chose what type of Religion he wanted including having no religion at all.
Your true definition of “toxic” is a refusal to accept the truth and accept the “toxic” racist propaganda of the “Party Line” complete with twisted arm bands.
What a wonderful way to give a poke in the eye to States with S2 opinions like California, New York and Hawaii…
National reciprocity, sounds good at first. But I don’t think it is a good idea. One, what is given can be taken away. Two, representives from CA IL or other states might be able to impose “hard” standards. Want a national CCW, fine you must put 10 shots in 10 seconds into 5 inches at 100yds. I live in Missouri, and other states don’t have ANY say in my gun rights. I want to keep it that way!!
I have to agree… I rarely leave my State anyway and when I do, 99% of the time it’s in another red state that my CCW is honored in, so it really doesn’t affect me. As you stated though, it does however open up the liberal vote in daying what I can and can’t do if I do visit there. We’ll eventually need a college degree in knowing where you can carry, what you can carry and what laws govern you as soon as you step into a State.
I don’t know about 100 yards but I certainly agree with all people should have to pass a shooting test before being handed a license. Imagine what our roads would be like if we didn’t give the Chinese a driving test before giving them a license lol.
quote————–Imagine what our roads would be like if we didn’t give the Chinese a driving test before giving them a license lol.———-quote
Spoken like a true racist. The Chinese had an advanced civilization and a printing press and deep drilling rigs and a crank auto arrow machine and gun powder when the Europeans were still living in caves but I am sure you are totally unaware of this because you obviously never passed History classes that is self evident.
Your ignorant racist statement makes educated people laugh their ass off at you, especially Chinese Americans who I am sure “you hate” with a passion. You really are at the bottom of the rotten apple barrel. And you Moron Portland Oregon became a very well to do city because of Chinese and other Asian American minorities who started family businesses who in turn needed workers most of which were White People which I am sure set you off howling racist epitaphs from the roof tops of the Ku Klux Klan.
Try again Herr Hauptmann GM1 you should have been born during the time of Hitlers Germany you would have made a good little Nazi. I am sure you regard that statement with great pride. I am not being facetious in the least.
Are you the same pronoun clown that used troll here in the past?
No. I wish folks would quit confusing me with this artless reposter of AI drivel.
I’d like to think I offered a thinking man’s counterpoint. He just repeats reddit buzzwords.
Blue Dog is respectfully and offers a rebuttal without hyperbole and with respect.
to Blue Dog and Sledge
Thanks for the compliment in regards to thinking I am AI. That is certainly a first. I am in reality a Far Right Socialist and proud of it simply because History is on my side. Too bad both of you flunked History 101.
I have no respect for Jack Booted Far Right Nazi’s and they certainly deserve none. Today, of all people, the Republican Governor of Ohio Mike DeWine said that mass deportations would be a huge mistake not only on humanitarian grounds but to the economy of Ohio and the entire U.S.
The Jackbooted Booted deportations remind one of Hitlers assault on the Jews and the depraved Far Right Republicans are eating it up. Haitians work in huge numbers in the health care industry and Jack Tripper today revealed that his own mother is currently being cared for by them in a rest home.
Haitians own homes or pay rent and have responsible jobs contributing to the economy and doing jobs most other Americans refuse to do. Haitians have also started thriving businesses much to the blind jealousy of the Far Right. Now we have the Depraved Racist Herr Drumpf (The Donald) about to deport thousands of them being cheered on by the Jackboots of the Far Right. If this is not right out of Nazi Germany of the 1930’s than nothing would be. It makes the majority of decent Americans ashamed to be an American because it goes against everything we stand for because American prosperity was and still is built on the hard working backs of immigrants and refugees.
The Statute of Liberty which the Far Right hate with a passion did not become an American Icon along with its inscription without a good reason in the eyes of the American People.
Do I use hyperbolae? The answer is hell yes as nothing is too harsh to use against a group of Far Right Fanatics that would if given even half a chance build gas chambers much to the delight of the Far Right.
It is up to us Socialists, the only real defenders of the Constitution to “civilize” America as we are the only ones willing to help the current plight of the troglodyte worker slaves in the U.S. and that includes all of us white, black, Asian, brown, etc. etc. We take great pride in discriminating against no one.
Remember in November what the Gangster Criminal Republicans have done to the economy and to us including gunning the down with cold blooded murder of peaceful WHITE protesters in Minneapolis Minnesota when Herr Drumpf’s Jackbooted Stormtroopers were out arresting LEGAL immigrants including a little boy in an Easter Bunny hat along with his Father and treated like Jews on their way to the gas chambers. The Far Right cheered to the shouts of Heil Drumpf, Heil Drumpf, Heil Drumpf!
When the Jackbooted ICE Stormtroopers ran out of the few criminal Aliens to arrest they turned their racist fury on legal immigrants’ by the thousands. It was all Herr Drumpf’s political grandstanding for the depraved Maga Racists.
When the Radical Far Right Joe Rogan panics everyone knows how out of control the Republican Storm Troopers have become when ICE screams “Papers Please or we will blow your brains out”.
All decent Americans who believe in our Constitution cannot wait for the November elections. The November elections cannot come too soon to save our country from becoming a banana republic.
Dacian, I never said or implied you were AI. AI would not be a compliment in any event.
What exactly is a far-right socialists? Socialists are to the left of the political spectrum, far right would imply being a moderate, something you are not.
The original inscription on the Statue of Liberty is not the poem you refer, that was added much later and recognized legal immigration with vetting. Legal immigration is something far different than illegal immigration without being vetted. Illegal immigration as the name suggests is illegal and would you not agree when laws are broken there should be consequences? Isn’t that how a civil society operates and remains civil?
Returning illegal immigrants is in no way analogue to what was done to Jews in Germany. The Jews were there as German citizens, and the expelling of them was anti sematic. Returning illegal immigrants is not racists or anti sematic, it is enforcing a moral and just law as set by Congress.
The US Constitution is not socialist. Therefore, a socialist cannot uphold the values of the Constitution.
to Herr Hauptmann Sledge
quote————Returning illegal immigrants is not racists or anti sematic, it is enforcing a moral and just law as set by Congress.———-quote
Are you aware dear genius boy that Haiti as we speak is one of the most violent and unsafe countries in the world which is completely controlled by murderous drug gangs. Just last week a group of children were gunned down in gangland crossfire. Too bad you are not aware of or completely ignore why the Haitians were allowed to come here to begin with. Too send them back now would be certain death for many which of course does not bother a racist like you in the least. If you were not a racist you would have not even attempted to post that outrageous statement which was a lame attempt to sanctify Republican hatred of the Haitian refugees. If that was not racist Hitler loved the Jews (sarcasm) And remember is was Trump and Vance who made the obscene statement that Springfield, Ohio Haitians were stealing white peoples dogs and cats and eating them. That was right out of Hitler’s Nazi Germany. Please do not continue to insult educated people with your Republican propaganda because it stinks and smells of out of control racism.
quote—————-Returning illegal immigrants is in no way analogue to what was done to Jews in Germany. ———-quote
Try another big lie Sledge. These Haitians “Are not illegal” they came here as “legal refugees” they only were suddenly declared illegal as a racist political stunt by Herr Drumpf to appease the racist far right fanatics. No where in our history have we accepted refugees fleeing persecution and death and then after they were here for years told them they were going to be deported with no right to a hearing, appeal or the right to become U.S. Citizens. This obscene episode is one of the sickest and most outrageous political stunts Herr Drumpf has ever made. It makes decent people ashamed to be an American as it violates everything decent Americans ever stood for.
Try again Sledge your polished jackboots are showing and they stink to high heaven.
to Herr Hauptman Sledge
quote————–What exactly is a far-right socialists? Socialists are to the left of the political spectrum, far right would imply being a moderate, something you are not.———–quote
Far Right are Moderates???? That is like saying pig shit is really perfume. Do you know how asinine that statement is in todays America??????????? Show me the difference between Hitler’s far right Nazi’s and the Republican Far Right. There is absolutely zero difference as both hate with a passion refugees, immigrants both legal and illegal, all American minorities and anyone not white Anglo Saxon Protestant (Catholics are also hated with a passion too by the Far Right) and all minority religions.
Right now Jackbooted Texas Stormtroopers have said they will destroy the separation of church and state and require the indoctrination (brainwashing) of all children in school with mandatory Christina Bible Study even when many of the children are of another non-Christian faith. This is something so outrageous I think even the Far Right Trump Supreme Court will roundly reject. Yet these same Moron Far Right Hypocrites who are always accusing Liberals of running their lives now are trying to dictate to children which religion children will be taught in a public school which is a clear obscene violation of the separation of church and state..
Try again you went so far over the top you made a complete fool of yourself. Really? Far Right Moderates? I am still LMAO.
–Carol Anderson in her book “The Second Amendment” states that surviving letters from Thomas Jefferson and James Madison prove they were terrified that the slave revolt that started and was still going on in Haiti at the time would spread to the U.S. because many of the Haitian Slave Owners were fleeing to the U.S. and brining along some of their slaves. —
The existence of these letters and not being mentioned during the debates and ratification places her contention as conjecture on the part of the author. Again, nothing in the debates mentions such a fear.
—There were an avalanche of anti-gun laws on the books before the Revolution and long before 2A was ever written and none, zero, Nada, Zilch was rescinded after 2A became law, in fact they only became more and more numerous up to an including the present day. In other words 2A was a bad joke to the courts and they simply ignored it. —
Are you supporting racists laws that existed in the time? Yes many of those laws fell out of favor to progress, even Jim Crow laws are done. Did you read the debates on the 14A and the question of whether freedmen would have the right to bear arms as citizens? What was the reply?
—There is no Constitutional right that is absolute, none whatsoever. You cannot yell fire in a theater and get away with causing the deaths of innocent people. You cannot build your own Atomic Bomb, You cannot make and use poison gas on your neighbor and his dog for pissing on your lawn. You cannot take out a full page add in a Newspaper recommending the mass genocide of a race or religion you do not like, much to the sorrow of Trump and his Maga Strom Troopers. You cannot manufacture and sell machine guns or grenades to the general public. I could go on but by now I am sure you must “get the picture”.—
There is no Constitutional right to do anything you mention. As far as weapons of mass destruction, not semi automatic or even automatic firearms, are weapons that are State powers, never seen as individual powers. Red herring my friend.
—Are you aware dear genius boy that Haiti as we speak is one of the most violent and unsafe countries in the world which is completely controlled by murderous drug gangs. Just last week a group of children were gunned down in gangland crossfire. Too bad you are not aware of or completely ignore why the Haitians were allowed to come here to begin with. Too send them back now would be certain death for many which of course does not bother a racist like you in the least—
The 2010 earthquake was the reason why TPS was given to Haitians. And it was intended for those who were already in the US as it was considered unsafe to return. However under Biden it was extended due to political and civil unrest. Unfortunately, the millions in aid given have done nothing except enrich the gangs and the corrupt government. How long should temporary be for? Serious question, because unless the People there make changes nothing positive will happen. Maybe the other Latin countries can contribute to end the mess there either politically, militarily or other means.
—Try another big lie Sledge. These Haitians “Are not illegal” they came here as “legal refugees” they only were suddenly declared illegal as a racist political stunt by Herr Drumpf to appease the racist far right fanatics.—
I stated illegal immigrants, I did not mention a nationality, ethnic, religious or any other designation other than being illegal. You brought Haitians into this, as an attempt to paint me as something I am not. That would be disingenuous for you to do. You can do better.
—clear obscene violation of the separation of church and state..—
What Law, statute or Constitutional Article or Amendment declares separation of Church and State? Jeffersons letter does not meet any of those criteria. I do know 2 SCOTUS cases referenced this letter. And the letter was a response to the creation of a national Church, not the practice of religion or using the Bible in schools.
You do know in Colonial America and past the Revolution the Bible was used in schools to teach reading and writing?
—Far Right are Moderates???? That is like saying pig shit is really perfume. Do you know how asinine that statement is in todays America??????????? Show me the difference between Hitler’s far right Nazi’s and the Republican Far Right. There is absolutely zero difference as both hate with a passion refugees, immigrants both legal and illegal, all American minorities and anyone not white Anglo Saxon Protestant (Catholics are also hated with a passion too by the Far Right) and all minority religions.—
Read again what I wrote, you claimed ” I am in reality a Far Right Socialist “. So I asked if that made >you< a moderate, something I do not think you are. I did not say the Far Right is moderate, again, disingenuous or hopefully a lack of fully reading what was written in your haste to reply.
So is the Far Right Socialist to the right of Mao? Mayber Marx or Lenin, or are they right wing to you? Or maybe you can define what you mean by Far Right Socialist?
Update: It was stated tonight that there are 350,000 Haitians legally in the U.S. and they contribute 6 billion to the economy and pay 1.6 billion in Federal, State, and Local taxes.
I might add it would cost several billion to deport 350,000 people besides all the money lost to the economy as stated above.
Now to your bold face lies about what I said. I never mentioned Far Right Socialists I spoke of Far Right Republican Nazi’s because that is exactly what they are. Your reading comprehension is at the 5th grade level.
quote—————–What Law, statute or Constitutional Article or Amendment declares separation of Church and State? Jeffersons letter does not meet any of those criteria. I do know 2 SCOTUS cases referenced this letter. And the letter was a response to the creation of a national Church, not the practice of religion or using the Bible in schools.———-quote
Will you quit trying to play Constitutional Scholar you are only making a complete fool of yourself.
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prevents Congress from making laws respecting an establishment of religion; prohibiting the free exercise of religion; or abridging the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, the freedom of peaceable assembly and the right to petition the government for redress of grievances.[1] It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights. In the original draft of the Bill of Rights, what is now the First Amendment occupied third place. The first two articles were not ratified by the states, so the article on disestablishment and free speech ended up being first.[2][3]
The Bill of Rights was proposed to assuage Anti-Federalist opposition to Constitutional ratification. Initially, the First Amendment applied only to laws enacted by the Congress, and many of its provisions were interpreted more narrowly than they are today. Beginning with Gitlow v. New York (1925), the Supreme Court applied the First Amendment to states—a process known as incorporation—through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The First Amendment applies only to state actors.[4][5]
With regard to religious freedom, the Court has frequently cited Thomas Jefferson’s call for “a wall of separation between church and State”, a metaphor for the separation of religions from government and vice versa as well as the free exercise of religious beliefs that many Founders favored. Speech rights were expanded significantly in a series of 20th- and 21st-century court decisions which protected various forms of political speech, anonymous speech, campaign finance, pornography, and school speech; these rulings also defined a series of exceptions to First Amendment protections.
Quote—————-Are you supporting racists laws that existed in the time? ———-quote
Please have your wife or someone who is competent in reading skills explain my post to you. I never said such an asinine thing
quote—————–The existence of these letters and not being mentioned during the debates and ratification places her contention as conjecture on the part of the author———quote
Pure bullshit now you are making things up as you go along.
Carol Elaine Anderson (born June 17, 1959) is an American academic. She is the Charles Howard Candler professor of African American Studies at Emory University.[2] Her research focuses on public policy with regard to race, justice, and equality.[2][3] In 2023, she was elected to the American Philosophical Society.[4]
quote—————However under Biden it was extended due to political and civil unrest.——–quote
Well this is hilarious you caught yourself in your own lies. This is precisely the point I made and that is it has been against U.S. Refugee Law and still is to send back refugees when they will most certainly face death. It does not matter that this came after they immigrated here legally or who was President at the time, as the law is the law. You are trying to politized it And you also twist the real truth. The violence started immediately after the Earth Quake hit it did not as you lie between your teeth start way after that. So once again it proves how lawless and racist Herr Drumpf and the Criminal Republicans really are. I nailed you to the cross on that disingenuous attempt to rewrite Haitian History to fit your own racist agenda. It did not work, try again.
quote—————-You do know in Colonial America and past the Revolution the Bible was used in schools to teach reading and writing?———–quote
Read the above. You are trying to say that if there was an injustice in the past that it is ok to perpetuate it and force the Christian Religion down the throats of children who are not Christians today. This is and has been Unconstitutional since the days of Jefferson.
Your ideas about the Constitution are to twist it obscenely to fit your radical Far Right Agenda. You claim to be a Socialist, what a joke.
Try again the only person you fooled is yourself. At first I thought you might be a challenge, but you made this discussion way to easy. The only thing that floored me was when you called yourself a Socialist. If you are a Socialist then Herr Drumpf is a loyal Democrat. Your claim to be a Socialist of any kind is actually that bizarre.
I would never call myself a socialist, >>YOU<< said " Thanks for the compliment in regards to thinking I am AI. That is certainly a first. I am in reality a Far Right Socialist and proud of it simply because History is on my side. Too bad both of you flunked History 101."
How does my quoting you somehow infer I am calling myself a socialist? You have a pattern of misdirection, deflection and complete BS replies.
A Far Right Socialist, as you say YOU are is a Marxist with Nazi tendencies of authoritarian tendencies. Definition: the label is often used to describe groups or individuals who combine ultranationalist, anti-democratic, and racially exclusionary views with socialist-sounding rhetoric to appeal to certain constituencies.
Honesty is not a quality you seem to possess.
Sledge you have made statements and then tried to lie your way out of them. You claimed you never mentioned Haitians but a 5th grader would have known you were talking about them when you mouthed off Far Right Racism when you said that people who have been here under the Refugee program and their country is no longer in turmoil should be sent back. That in and of itself told us two things, you were indeed talking about the Haitians and you lied between your teeth when you inferred that they were only here because of the earthquake that took place there. In reality they did not come here because of the earth quake as plenty of aid was being sent there, they came because the drug gangs took over the country and no one was safe there anymore. Even the Haitian President was assassinated.
quote————–The existence of these letters and not being mentioned during the debates and ratification places her contention as conjecture on the part of the author. Again, nothing in the debates mentions such a fear.——–quote
Look Sledge quite trying to twist history. The debates HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH THE DEBATES, AGAIN ZERO. Even a 5th grader would understand that. Do you think Madison and Jefferson would have admitted they were racists who were race baiting the States into joining the Federal Government by offering them the right to have their own Militias to murder blacks on a wholesale level. Of course this is not in the debates.
quote—————quote————Returning illegal immigrants is not racists or anti sematic, it is enforcing a moral and just law as set by Congress.———-quote
Here you imply that Trumps latest move to deport the Haitians is because they are illegal. That is a bold face lie. Ahh but you will say I never said Haitians but you sure as hell implied you were speaking about them
And the claim it is “moral” to deport people is right out of Nazi Germany. Even deporting “illegal” immigrants back to a country where they would be killed is clearly immoral unless of course you are racist. And that you certainly are. Every one of your racist posts is like blowing a trumpet to the Maga Racists. And again the Haitians are “not illegals” so quit implying that they are.
Admit the truth I am calling you out right now. You want the Haitians deported. Now answer my question Herr Hauptmann. Of course you will not answer the question. You already in your post certainly implied it
Admit you want Christian Prayer forced on children in Public Schools. Of course you will not answer the question.
I just do not understand why you are not proud and honest enough to admit what your are which is a Far Right Fanatic supporting Herr Drumpf, and a dictatorship, supporting Trumps attempt to take over the Government by force on Jan. 6th. Admit you hate refugees and immigrants. Admit you want an all white society and that everyone not white, Anglo Saxon and Christian should be at the least made into second class citizens with no full Constitutional Rights (as it was in your good old days of nostalgia). Admit you support preventing a Woman the right to chose, Admit you would resurrect laws forbidding interracial marriage. Outlaw all religions except only certain brands of Protestantism. Require a candidate for President to be White, Christian, and Conservative and of course Male with Females being unable to run for President and be forbidden to vote or hold a job or even drive a car just as in your “good old days”. Remember the Far Right supported and promoted and sanctioned all of this at one time. Remember too Hitler believed in all of this as well and even copied some of the racist laws in the U.S. at the time.
— In reality they did not come here because of the earth quake as plenty of aid was being sent there, they came because the drug gangs took over the country and no one was safe there anymore. Even the Haitian President was assassinated.–
Temporary Protected Status (TPS) was first granted to Haitian nationals in January 2010, shortly after the catastrophic earthquake on January 12, 2010. The U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security at the time, Janet Napolitano, designated TPS on January 15, 2010, allowing Haitian nationals already in the United States to live and work legally without fear of deportation. This initial designation applied only to those present in the U.S. as of the earthquake date. Since 2010, the U.S. government has repeatedly extended Haiti’s TPS designation due to ongoing instability, including political violence, economic collapse, and natural disasters
Again, just as I already stated but this time I gave you a copy and paste of info, still says the same thing I already said. It doesn’t matter how you try, what I said is correct.
—Look Sledge quite trying to twist history. The debates HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH THE DEBATES, AGAIN ZERO. Even a 5th grader would understand that. Do you think Madison and Jefferson would have admitted they were racists who were race baiting the States into joining the Federal Government by offering them the right to have their own Militias to murder blacks on a wholesale level. Of course this is not in the debates.—
As you have described the Founders as criminal racist gangsters, then if that was the true reason of the 2A, they would have stated it. If your portrayal is correct they wouldn’t have anything to hide would they? The debates have everything to do with what was ratified. Just like today, debates are done for legislation.
Even if you take what Anderson claims at face value, it still falls flat with the historical record. I know you are not this stupid.
—Here you imply that Trumps latest move to deport the Haitians is because they are illegal. That is a bold face lie. Ahh but you will say I never said Haitians but you sure as hell implied you were speaking about them–
There is a difference between legal and illegal immigration, at least to educated people, hell even uneducated with a little common sense knows the difference. It is dishonest to claim I do not know the difference then try to make this what it is not. Yes, illegal immigrants should leave. Legal immigrants should stay unless they have committed a crime. It doesn’t get easier than this.
—Admit the truth I am calling you out right now. You want the Haitians deported. Now answer my question Herr Hauptmann. Of course you will not answer the question. You already in your post certainly implied it–
If a Haitian is here illegally, then yes. If they are not Haitian and here illegally, yes again. Nothing immoral about that. Have an issue with immigration policy, take it up with Congress, they made the laws. There is a variety of ways to legally immigrate. I am sure if you just walked into another Country and set up shop they may not take that well. It is detrimental to society to ignore laws, would you agree?
—I just do not understand why you are not proud and honest enough to admit what your are which is a Far Right Fanatic supporting Herr Drumpf, and a dictatorship, supporting Trumps attempt to take over the Government by force on Jan. 6th.—
Jan 6 is the same as the riots during the summer of love, when they both turned violent they were wrong. Protests, peaceful protests and demonstrations are legitimate and are the responsibility of the citizenry.
—Admit you hate refugees and immigrants. Admit you want an all white society and that everyone not white, Anglo Saxon and Christian should be at the least made into second class citizens with no full Constitutional Rights (as it was in your good old days of nostalgia). —
I am a product of legal immigration. I am not fully Caucasian either. At one time I would not be afforded the rights I have now, that is the result of this Country realizing the words of Jefferson that all men are treated equal. You do know it was Republicans that passed emancipation, the 14A, the Civil Rights Act without Democratic Party support? Presodent Kennedy had to work with Republicans across the aisle to get the legislation passed. Democrats wouldn’t vote for Kennedy today. They haven’t forgiven him for the Civil Rights Act’
—Admit you support preventing a Woman the right to chose,—-
I must be evil if I support the child’s right to choose? I can support the death penalty and still not like abortion. Abortion kills someone who has committed no crime while the death penalty is for heinous crimes.
—Admit you would resurrect laws forbidding interracial marriage.—
Again, I am a product of interracial marriage.
—Outlaw all religions except only certain brands of Protestantism—
You’re digging deep to try to paint a picture. But you are only finding a mirror.
—- Require a candidate for President to be White, Christian, and Conservative and of course Male with Females being unable to run for President and be forbidden to vote or hold a job or even drive a car just as in your “good old days”.—
I would rather vote for someone who is coherent, intelligent and being President for the benefit of the Country, regardless of gender of ethnicity. That won’t happen in my lifetime so I will settle for the less evil individual. As far as women issues, we all are equal.
— Remember the Far Right supported and promoted and sanctioned all of this at one time. Remember too Hitler believed in all of this as well and even copied some of the racist laws—
If you look at history, it was the Democrats and Progressives that enforced Jim Crow, slavery and voted against civil rights. That BS of the Parties flopping is just that, BS. If you met a black Republican, you would criticize him for being a race traitor, that is the leftist way.
So speaking of not answering questions, what is a Far Right Socialist that you claim to be? Was my definition correct? Or is there another? What would make you choose Far Right Socialism over just regular Socialism?
This would be more beneficial if you didn’t use so much hyperbole and dishonesty. Are you capable?
Your latest post is all double speak and deflection
You did not answer truthfully any of my questions. In fact you did not answer them at all.
Obviously you support Christian prayer in public schools because you refused to answer the question.
You did not condemn the deporting of “legal Haitian immigrants” you did a disingenuous double speak on it. They were legal and now with a racist scream from Trump they are illegal and 350,000 are to be deported. If you are only half white you are a disgusting traitor to all minorities or bi-racial people. You gave zero support to the Haitians except hide behind doublespeak.
You totally with the wave of your hand ignore the racism of the Founders, you double speak on it, use deflection, pretend it did not exist therefore you claim it hand nothing to do with the writing of 2A. History is on my side and it does not disappear simply because you ignore it and pretend it never happened.
You failed in every rebuttal because you gave no rebuttal. I have no respect for people like you who are to cowardly to answer questions put to you in plain English. Either stand up for your warped far right agenda or go back and hide in your salad bowl of vague and nebulous responses. You disgust me.
You are becoming more unhinged. Far Right Socialist?
I gave you answers. You twist what is said to say what you hope I said instead of what I said.
to Sledge
Claiming the Haitians should be sent back because the earthquake is over is asinine and racist to the 9th degree because of the gang violence still going on there. In fact the reason the Refugee program was written was to save people who lives were in danger in their home country. This the Haitians are definitely in danger of if sent back. Even a 5th grader can understand this. Why cannot you? Why do you use smoke and mirrors and deflection, and disingenuous clap trap and lame excuses to carry out your racist agenda to send them back.
Your incapable of honesty. You still twist what is said. I see you can’t do better.
Far right wing socialist is correct. You are only able to lie. I am not disgusted ny you, I am disappointed and feel sorry for you.