Oregon Gov. Kate Brown. (Photo: Oregon.gov)
Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) signed a bill into law that allows police to confiscate privately-owned guns. The bill, SB 719 A, was introduced by Republican Sen. Brian Boquist and passed largely by Democratic legislators.
The bill gives the state the authority to confiscate guns belonging to law-abiding citizens if they are deemed a threat to themselves or others.
“[This law] creates the process for obtaining extreme risk protection order prohibiting person from possessing deadly weapon when court finds that person presents risk in near future, including imminent risk, of suicide or causing injury to another person,” reads a summary of the bill.
Critics of the bill point out that the law allows police to seize property without any form of due process.
“[It] allows people who are not mental health professionals, who may be mistaken, and who may only have minimal contact with the respondent to file a petition with the court and testify on the respondent’s state of mind,” said the NRA in a statement.
“This…order…strips the accused of their Second Amendment rights, would be issued by a judge based on the brief statement of the petitioner,” argues the NRA. “The accused would not be afforded the chance to appear in court to defend themselves against the allegations when the [order] is issued. These orders may be issued without any allegations of criminal behavior.”
In addition, the bill allows police to prevent people from purchasing guns without any criminal conviction. Gun-rights supporters point out that this can be used to harass would-be gun owners and prevent lawful gun ownership.
Kevin Starrett of the Oregon Firearms Federation said the law eliminates the “safeguard that protects a person’s right to have the means to protect themselves.”
Brown defended the bill saying that gun owners can sue to have their rights restored. She said the law is the “best way that a person who is at risk of harming themselves or others is identified, while still ensuring their rights are protected by a court review.”
Falsely filing a report against an individual carries a punishment of up to one year in jail or a fine up to $6,250.
Other states have attempted similar gun control schemes only to be shut down by the courts. Time will tell whether this new law suffers the same fate.
I have a half a dozen active duty national guard friends who collectively told me that, if an order came to start confiscating weapons/guns they would not follow through. can you imagine the carnage,going from door to doortrying to confiscate guns from everyone in utah wyoming,montana nevada etc?
Express gratitude toward God I don’t live in Oregon, California, New York, Connecticut, Illinois or any of these democraptic run States. These governors, lawmakers, and so forth., should be voted ou
Now just where is an honest accused gun owner going to find a mental heath care professional to risk his or hers professional integrity by letting an suspect gun owner keep their guns. This is a blatant anti gun political setup, leaving all the owness on honest law abiding people. This law may have some potential benefits but how can you trust an anti gun leagal bureaucracy not to have substantial abuses against innocent citizens when easier for law enforcement to carry out the law and let the chips fall where they may.
It sounds like it is way past time for the people of Oregon to get smart and Vote all of those democrats out of office and the one republican. RECALL THE GOVERNOR and send her packing for Violating her oath of office. I am retired military, when I joined the Navy I took an Oath to Defend the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. As I see it the governor is an domestic enemy. I am still under that Oath even being retired for 26 years.
Consider this:
1) If you walk into my gun club to shoot a competition, your gun must be unloaded with a chamber flag in it. It must be locked and cased.
2) Between volleys your rifle or pistol must be on the bench with chamber open, mag out, chamber flag in.
3) You may not touch your gun or other equipment when competitors or ROs are down range.
Why all that caution? No one has been convicted of a crime. Surely everyone on the line is a law-abiding citizen and has never shot anyone to death, right?
Why would you support such draconian range rules for lawful gun owners, but oppose the same level of safety action for some one declared “a danger to oneself or others”?
GS
Gun Owner
Pistol Instructor
NRA Member
GS – you’ve missed the point. Who or what process goes into determining an individual is a threat? If your neighbor feels threatened by the fact that you’re an NRA member – should that be sufficient cause to confiscate your firearms?
The provision in the bill that allows the individual to sue for the return of confiscated firearms – good luck with that. How long between the time the gun owner files a suit and the time the suit goes to a hearing – or is it a trail? How much will the suit cost?
I don’t think any cop would take your guns because you have an NRA sticker on your bumper.
Other than the Vegas shooter there were clear signs these shooters shouldn’t have guns. The Texas church shooter shouldn’t have been able to purchase. The parkland guy, come get his guns on one of the multiple visits to his home. Us average Joe’s have right to own. The wackjobs don’t have that right.
Oregonian, CC and range member
Georgi- Your home is not a gun range where a competition is taking place. There are no RSO’s “downrange”, and no one is “taking” your firearm. You are allowed to bring your firearm with you, but to PARTICIPATE in the competition there are rules, you agree to that set of rules for the safety of ALL participants and the RSO’s. My HOME is my home, and if I want to carry a firearm “locked and loaded” on my person, that is my RIGHT. I am not participating in a competition, I am exercising my RIGHTS as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. Big difference between the two. Why should an ex-wfe or girlfriend, or some rabid anti-gunner have the ability to essentially disarm me WITHOUT due process? Sure, there’s a hearing, but are you invited to defend yourself? No. I’m willing to bet you would sing a different tune if it happened to you.
AGN
RSO ( Range Safety Officer )
NRA Member
If you are declared a danger to yourself or others, a process has indeed been followed to do so. If you are declared a danger to yourself or others, you should be disarmed because the simple declaration does nothing to protect society.
A restraining order can be issued in the absence of any crime. According to you opponents of this bill, the ex-husband with a restraining order against him can still take his legally owned pistol or rifle and go kill his wife and children. Why? Because he has not yet committed any crime. By the time he commits his crime, and the cops can finally dis-arm him, a woman and three children can be murdered.
GS
Gun Owner
Pistol Instructor
NRA Member
A domestic violence retraining order (i.e., the type of retraining order typically sought in domestic relations court) carries with it a disarmament provision, the violation of which is a crime. Your example is simply wrong. Try again.
The purpose of this law is to sweep up people who are not involved in a divorce. Domestic relations law has remedies already–the utility of which are subject to dispute, but that is a different issue all together.
Separate comment: the determination that someone is danger to himself or others under the Oregon law is carried out without the defendant/respondent, without his representative, probably without evidence from a mental health professional, and simply on the say-so of a single family or household member and any record the respondent has (if any). Thus, the judge is making an order without the benefit of a mental health professional and on the one-sided complaint of the petitioner. Moreover, unlike California’s version of this type of law, where a temporary order is issued, followed by a full blown evidentiary hearing within 21 days, and at which the petitioner has the burden of proof, this law allows issuance of a permanent order unless the respondent petitions for a hearing. This is, as the objectors note, guilty until proven innocent, and this aspect may render the bill unconstitutional, notwithstanding the fact that the order may issue only upon “clear and convincing” evidence.
What do you expect from women politicians????? They vote emotional. They are incapable of logic!!!! Look at all the women politicians. You may have one or two, that are acceptable, the rest are leftest insipid’s!!!!!!
Seems like these women governors, congresswomen, etc., have this empty nest syndrome
that makes them want to mother all of us and tell us what we can play with and whom and
where. They want to control our lives!
It’s always the same with the Leftists… they want to be the ONLY judge and jury.
why not present a bill that enables authorities to detain and question the person and decide whether to free them or have evaluated by mental health authorities………this bill stinks of an adgenda to take guns (not the person,because it wouldn’t be justified?) ……….idiots , never let the truth get in the way of their adgenda!
Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers believed the public should have the right to bear arms to protect them from government. They knew exactly what they were doing when they wrote the Second Amendment. Citizens of Oregon have the right and the duty to use their arms to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic.
Um…even if they are insane? Convicted of a crime? An illegal alien? Have sworn allegiance to Islam?
What these politicos fail to realize is the law of unintended consequences. Most if not all of these “confiscations” will not go well. Good people will die , the “confiscators” are gonna have to figure out which side they are on and the way I look at it is make the libtard lawmakers try to enforce their own unconstitutional laws upon the Oregon people. I’ve always said that lawmakers should serve a term in the military and their kids as well. Anyone who takes the oath better damn well abide by it. This so called governor Brown took an oath but obviously doesn’t abide by it. And her cohorts are part and parcel of the problem as none dare call it treason!
There are so many people in oregon that really believe that they are entitled to just everything.l know you have all heard this before,the education systems doesn’t educate,the system and the communist influence indoctrinate into
Believing that they can have all these entitlements with out working and being a productive citizen. It has been driven into their heads that every one else should pay their way. Look at the other new goodys the liberals have done.
Want an abortion, sure any time doesn’t matter at what stage or circumstances doesn’t matter legal or illegal doesn’t matter. All you good Oregonians must pay for it.weather you agree or disagree.it will be extracted from your hard earned taxes a very good logical reason don’t you think. You don’t mind paying for their birth control.the education system should keep in mind what the tax payers want.prepare these students with education,not political
Demonstration.if the students want to do that do it on their own time,pick up there mess pay for the demonstration
Security get permits in areas where they won’t disrupt normal functioning working people and their businesses.hold them accountable and financially responsible for all disruptions that they create.any and all publicly paid for personell needed they must reimburse the city or town that had to pay for it and a firm enforcible time limit should be
On the foolish subject that they are demonstrating about.no other conflicting demonstrating should be granted with
In the same area. Not trying to make it tuff on them.just want people that like the american system comfortable.l guess that is enough said for now
Kermitt, you’re a shining example of why we need to improve the education system in this country.
you are half baked rambler.
All you residents of Oregon should file complaints against the Governors police protection duty members. I can see a bunch of fun to be had filing reports on politicians and other anti-gun fools.
gonzo – did you miss this sentence in the article? “Falsely filing a report against an individual carries a punishment of up to one year in jail or a fine up to $6,250.”
The problem is UP TO not minimum. The false reporters will get a slap on the wrist at most. Now a minimum of 5 years and $50k fine may get their attention, if the libtard judges don’t set aside any conviction for what ever excuse they can come up with. Assuming there would EVER be a prosecution in the first place. The false reporting penalties are just a smoke screen.
Well, to begin with, the author of the article is full of crap. A stranger off the street CANNOT swear out a application for a restraining order: the law is specific in providing this relief to the police, and to family members or other members of the respondent’s household. So what you suggest just ain’t gonna happen, penalty for false swearing or not, since the courts are not empowered to issue orders under the described circumstance.
Whatever happened to sanity in Oregon? Since I moved away it has become a hangout for leftist lunatics. And this governor is one of the worst. She must be related to CA governor Jerry Brown. The two Browns should get together and secede from the Union. Having them out of US politics would make America a better place!
So…have you missed the whole series of Portlandia? Oregon and Washington are full of Libtards. Essentially trust fund, gender flexible, vegan nonces.
It is well established fact, self/evident truth. She is willfully and knowingly violating her oath of office as this denies due process, and should be removed forthwith. If you knowingly try to use your power and position to disenfranchise citizens of their inalienable rights, rights given by the creator, not government, through your political or position of power you are an enemy of the people, a tyrant by definition and should be immediately removed and sanctioned for treason. She is an insider threat, a political insurgent. Yes, I coined that term and have written extensively on it.
All that is necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. Ill add to that by asking what HL Menchen did, when will we raise the black flag and begin to slit throats, politically speaking. I wouldnt want to be lumped in with the alt right and alt left who promote violence, i support the preservation of the constitution as a four time volunteer, (few may know what that means). Dana Loesch of the NRA in her ad said it as clearly and succinctly as could be done rationally.
These are marxist stem to stern! Whether its a “D” or an “R” in front of their name, no difference.
Another dumb assed law on the books. When is common sense going to kick in?
Could we just extend “THE WALL” up from the Mexican border along all of cali and through Oregon and Washington up to Canada?
Excellent plan!
This insanity can not stand the Supreme Court test. The 2nd Amendment takes precedence over all the various states attempting to rewrite the 2nd A or, rather, over write it w/ their illegal laws. There hasn’t been a lawyer w/ the BB’s to challenge the phony “states rights” attempts to kill the 2nd A. These states ought to be DEFUNDED IN TOTAL ! Along w/ in-Planned Parenthood, but, don’t get me started !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another attempt to only allow those whom obtain firearms illegally to have the upper hand in this beauracracy of misguided political madness. How is it fair to take a law abiding citizens weapons based on a report from some unknown persons opinion of their mental health or intent to do others harm…
If you own a weapon for personal protection then it’s fair to say my intent is to protect myself and family for those whom my try to do us harm so does that mean the police can or would take my weapons?
That’s like taking your car because you may get a DUI.
STOP THE MADNESS! Police those whom need it nor those that defend it.
And i’ll add the cost of the legal battle for this nonsense , to appeal it thru the courts , will be carried by the TAXPAYER!! I’m sick of paying for this &%$@@hit
Take away the dangerous persons property because he already wants you dead? Sounds like your making sure he tries to Kill you. Has anyone watched the news recently? Vehicles work just as good as guns. \”Common sense\”? Suicide : make sure you confiscate the roof off their house or any large trees on his/her property. Close all bridges, highways, etc. You get the point. Make them get a lawyer! piss them off or depress them further. Makes complete sense. Whats everyone worried about? I\’m sure this will stop all the scary things from happening to all of us. THIS is ridiculous. I hope we can get a few politicians that have the drive to push back on the decades of \”lack-of-common-sense\”! By the way it only says \”do harm\” not kill or end life.
Take away the dangerous persons property because he already wants you dead? Sounds like your making sure he tries to Kill you. Has anyone watched the news recently? Vehicles work just as good as guns. “Common sense”? Suicide : make sure you confiscate the roof off their house or any large trees on his/her property. Close all bridges, highways, etc. You get the point. Make them get a lawyer! piss them off or depress them further. Makes complete sense. Whats everyone worried about? I’m sure this will stop all the scary things from happening to all of us. THIS is ridiculous. I hope we can get a few politicians that have the drive to push back on the decades of “lack-of-common-sense”! By the way it only says “do harm” not kill or end life.
People should not have to sue to keep their rights.
The politicians of Oregon have passed a tyrannical bill. Read the below fifth amendment of the United States Constitution and pay attention to where it talks about property rights.
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
Her name is Kate Brown Remember that all you legal state of Oregon voters at the next election. You put her in power, you can vote her out.
Yes we are tired of her stupid and unconstitutional bills and other antics. We are moving against her.
A law abiding citizen or legal immigrant would be ridiculed for trying to report a suspected reformist or illegal alein but the left can just accuse anyone that will not agree with their views a danger and have their rights taken away. It will not end with just taking away someone’s gun. Maybe there will start being sanctuary cities, towns and counties for law abiding gun owners that will disregard the Oregon law like some states and cities with U S laws. FYI, I’m not a gun owner but I sure don’t want my right to own one taken away if I decide to start hunting with my father instead of fishing as a hobby
Understand folks the whole west coast is just an extension of California.
no one has the right to put a law over the constitution . if they can do it on the 2n amendment then they will do it to all of the constitution
I guess the 5th Amendment does not matter….
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
Notice the part “without Due Process”.
The proponents will argue that the due process right is guaranteed by the provision allowing for the respondent to file for a hearing within 30 days of the issuance and service of the order. Although it is true that temporary orders may issue ex parte, I have to question whether this will pass muster, since it provides for a permanent order unless challenged. the California version of this law provides for a temporary order that is only good for 21 days, after which there must be a hearing. That kind of provision has been held in other circumstances to comply with the due process requirements of the Constitution.
We must USE the 2nd Amendment to RID ourselves of this Communist Progressive Libtard FILTH, nationwide!
Jusr goes to show not to trust any politician, republican or democrat. To them it’s not about public safety. It’s about controlling the people.
1984
Yep
Apparently this moron governor has never heard of the Second, Fourth, Tenth, and Fourteenth Amendments. This will be overturned by the courts and the people who are affected should be able to sue for damages also. I have often thought of moving to Oregon but I prefer to live in the FREE United States of America, not a totalitarian communist regime.
Guilty, until you hire a lawyer and file a suit to prove yourself innocent. That’s about as unconstitutional as it can get. If any of those asshats get re-elected, then the people of Oregon truly deserve them.
The politicians have seen that the majority of the people want to preserve our gun rights so those who are “doubling down” on their anti-gun activism care nothing about our demands and are bent on grinding their heels into us. It is useless to keep arguing with them about gun rights in general and armed self defense in particular. Those law makers and other activists KNOW that our arguments are true; they are not stupid. Many, if not most, anti-gun activists actually want guns but only for themselves. Anti-gun pols also want to concentrate all weaponry in government hands in order to establish a totalitarian dictatorship (yes, I’m being redundant). We need to become familiar with Recall campaigns to get rid of lawmakers who conned their way into office. We also need to support other candidates. Law makers who insist on “doubling down” their anti-gun efforts in spite of the fact that anti-gun laws cost lives need to be sent packing; they care nothing for the lives of “us peasants!:
Here again, why are the good folks living in Oregon ALLOWING their politicos to do this. Fight the politicians by making them accountable for every breath they take. Politicians work for the people but folks are to numb to realize this fact.
Oregon has the provision to recall politicians.
” The citizens of Oregon are granted the authority to perform a recall election by Article 2, Section 18 of the Oregon Constitution. This right of recall was created in 1908. Oregon and Michigan, which also created the right of recall in 1908, were the first two states to adopt statewide recall procedures.
Oregon is one of nine states with provisions that say that the right of recall extends to recalling members of its federal congressional delegation, but it hasn’t been clear whether federal courts would allow states to actually recall their federal politicians.
The time is coming when “shall not be infringed” will have to be enforced by we the people. With tens-of-thousands of “gun control” laws on the books, it is obvious politicians, judges and bureaucrats have no qualms about violating their oaths of office. Unless codified in the United States Constitution, all laws, court rulings, bureaucratic regulations and foreign treaties that infringe upon the unalienable right of American citizens to keep and bear arms are null and void. We allow our hard-won Constitution to be violated at our own peril.
I was absolutely stunned when Clint Smith chose to move his ‘Thunder Ranch’ to Oregon. Tough call Clint! Hope you can relocate & recover soon.
Ms. Brown, you may have been elected governor but you are obviously not much of an American if at all. Americans adhere to the Constitution. You are either very ignorant or subversive. If ignorant, you need to be educated in what it means to be an American. If subversive, you need to be prosecuted for treason or move to a country in line with your totalitarian philosophy.
Unconstitutional totalitarianism!
If anybody and I don’t care how many are involved, tries to come and take my guns. They better be prepared to die on that day!
So who makes the decision on who is a threat to themselves or others?????
As long as liberals are in charge EVERYBODY who doesn’t think the way they do is a “threat!”
Falsely filing a report against an individual carries a punishment of up to one year in jail or a fine up to $6,250
Is this meant to squelch my first Amendment right of free speech. What I said is true. Ms. Brown is acting outside her Constitutional jurisdiction. I have every right to say so.
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Is the report I just submitted on Kate Brown a “false filing”?
(R) Sen. Brian Boquist seems to be the catalyst here. Democrats were only doing what they do best. I say lay the blame where it belongs, if there is blame to lay . Personally, i think if someone is nuts there should be a provision somewhere to keep the rest of us from getting killed by a wacko.
John King needs to go back and retake 3rd grade on up……………………………WOW
Shane, he was either drinking or poorly educated, but he’s still correct about Reagan, who was a RAT. I lived those years as a 2nd Amendment activist in California. The reason you cannot obtain a new or newly imported machine gun or “armor piercing ” handgun ammo today can be laid on the grave of Reagan. By comparison Obongo (who I despise for other reasons) did very little damage to the 2nd (just everything else)
Every one should build their own black gun .no serial number. The (how to) can be found on the internet
The whole west coast is nothing but a libatard shithole and North Korea would be doing us a favor if they nuked the whole area!
Steven, there are a lot of good folks outside of the major urban zones, but we wouldn’t miss Seattle, Tacoma or Portland
Or L.A., S.F. and Sac.
She looks like your typical mindless scumbag liberal and to the mindless republican that wrote the bill I hope he drops DEAD!
How about minding your own bidness, Bi-atch?
For the guy that said there have been good Republicans on the West Coast since Ronald Reagan he needs to check on Ronald Ragan he’s the one that wrote the letter to Congress in 1993 to persuade them to pass the law on black gun bans if Passed bye two votes and the two boats that passed it said it was Ronald Ragan’s letter that persuaded them to vote for it. And you can check in 1967 when him and NRA got legislative passed in California that outlawed open carry. So if you check your fax he wasn’t so great he did more to hurt your gun rights than President Obama. And these are facts you can look them up not fiction from the fake news a fox
John,
People have had their collective heads in the sand concerning Reagan for a long, long while now. That he was a great President is to me without contest. But there was the anti-gun side of him that many of us did not appreciate. I was speaking to Michael Reagan on national TV one afternoon, many years ago when I said, “Yes I believe him to be the greatest president of my lifetime, but he did things that I’m still mad about!” Mike just laughed quietly and said, “Me too Norm . . . Me too.” People need these reminders to show plainly that hind-sight is indeed NOT 20/20.”
These public officials that make laws as such, should be tried for treason in violation of the second amendment rights of the people by the people.
Move to Missouri. Just keep some distance from StL and KC. We over rode the governor veto for no permit CCW. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Well, the permit is the second amendment.
Did my time in Misery, thank you.
The people are fine until you put more than a dozen into an enclosed space.
If you do that, the stupidity reaches a critical mass and explodes.
Oh, and it alternates between being an insect-riddled swamp and a flash-freeze icebox.
and last time I was there, the women had never heard of razors.
Surely this gestapo type move will be overturned in the court system.
I assume they are going to take away all knifes, and shoestrings that they might own to. knifes and kill and one can use shoestrings to commit suicide. Do these people even think about what they are going to do before they do it. Another example of ignorant college graduates thinking they are smart.
So… how about everyone do this for all the cops…and all the lawmakers for sure…
I guess she want to see Nazi Germany again, Were Certain people have no Rights. She wanst Civil War and national disobedience to rule Oregon..
I guess she want to see Nazi Germany again, Were Certain people have no Rights. She wanst Civil War and national disobedience to rule Oregan..
Why would anyone want to live in Oregon. This is becoming a complete totalitarian police state under the leadership of the avowed extreme left socialist in the government. Hell, even the Republicans there are socialists (exactly how does that work?)
This law will be challenged instantly and deemed unconstitutional by the SCOTUS but in the meantime the little communists running around in the government bureaucracy will have a field day stripping law abiding citizens of their guns. This is a perfect example of what will happen if we ever again vote in a Democrat congress and President in this country. It was headed this way under Obama and would have definitely been the case if Hillary Clinton had been elected. However watch out for the RINOs in the Congress as they are just as dangerous.
I think Oregon caught this disease from California, its spreading on the west coast and its getting bad. The dems in cali have already lost their damn minds and now its spreading to Oregon and other nearby states . Its almost like these people want another civil war, they keep making things for us worse and worse, and it doesn’t seem to bother them one bit. I hope it does not make it to the east coast.
Yep– Take them from the lawful,and turn and give them to the unlawful !! About right!! But don’t come crying when all back fires on ya !!
So, I get pissed at a neighbor because his dog took a dump on my front yard, I can go swear out a complaint that he was dancing around a fire in his backyard, by the dark of the moon, waving a gun around claiming he was going to shoot the dark spirit for eating the moon, and I say he’s a threat and I’m scared ? that the court can order the police to seize his guns ? Without probable cause?, without due process ?, Just because I can ?, And he has to sue to get them back ? The people of Oregon bought into that ? Only a democrat could think of that !
Only a democrat could think that up
It’s not that the people of Oregon bought into it. Rather the Dictators of Oregon have been making and signing into law bills like this using the mail ballot voting system. No way to actually clarify who is actually voting and if they are legal or even still alive.
Only a DEMOCRAT can think of that? Second sentence in the article….The bill, SB 719 A, was INTRODUCED by REPUBLICAN (i.e. RINO) Sen. Brian Boquist and passed largely by Democratic legislators.
Sounds like you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent and at you own expense. Who gets to decide if anyone is unfit to own firearms and as one commenter stated, where does this stop.
The whole west coast is a haven for liberal incest. And notice that the bill was introduced by a Republican. I don’t believe there are any (real) Republicans on the west coast. Not since Ronald Reagan anyway. Due process has been removed and our rights with it. Constitution says innocent until proven guilty. And used to be if you were a felon you lost your right to have a gun, to vote, and a few other things. So now the innocent person has to prove they are innocent and fight the government to reinstate your rights. Not because you necessarily did anything wrong. But because “someone” said so. Oh, another Constitutional right lost; the right to face your accuser. So, by and large, this isn’t just the loss of your 2A rights, it violates at least 3 other rights. You people in OR wake up. This loss of your rights is the beginning. You think it will stop here?
These elected officials sure think they are “MOM” and seem to do what they want to protect everyone they deem not smart enough to protect themselves.
Here’s what every legal gun owner in OR should do: call in “anonymous tips” on every state employee. Tell them the person is “acting weird and walking around the yard with guns.” After all the gubbmint employees get their homes raided on “hearsay evidence,” the unions, NAACP, ACLU, etc will raise holy hell and the law will get rescinded.
So this Anti-American, Anti-Second Amendment POS politician signs a Bill that Law Abiding Citizens of Oregon Can & Will have Their Firearms Confiscated, and Yet Her Hypocrite Ass is Guarded by Men with Guns??
so how is it now that states can make up new laws as they go along govenors or judges for that matter who is protecting our rights and where is the NRA when this is going on where did the second amendment go and don’t these people abide by federal law.
I like how the Governor defended the bill by saying the gun owner can sue to have their gun rights restored. What an IDIOT to even make a statement like this. They know the financial burden this will place on regular citizens to fight to have their gun rights restored and the time it will take to clear up this mess.
More stupid actions from traders!! Police are not qualified to make those decisions.
Your all missing the point. Its called character assassination. First you have their weapons confiscated, then they spend their entire life savings trying to clear their name, but once you have been accused and are in the system, you never get out. So, after you get back on track, someone who has had it in for you the whole time for some reason, observes you carrying a gun or doing something in public. A quick phone call to the police saying you hear screams and sounds of fighting in your house takes care of that. No action, must have been a mistake, but there is a record that police were called to your residence, everyone following?
Its the long game but has been played out many times, especially in smaller towns and cities. This law will just make it much simpler to get the process done. Its like standing in a crowd and asking someone it they still beat their wife? No matter what, people around will remember that, no matter how preposterous. They will remember that you beat your wife, or that at least you were accused. Its human nature, psychology. The doubt will always be there and many people use this to get what they want.
When forfeiture and seizure went into effect, we had a local deputy sheriff who became famous for making drug arrests. What we eventually figured out was he had friends in the systema and he was targeting specific people for arrest. Seems that if you have pot growing on your property, you lose it whether its yours or not. All of a sudden everyone finds out this guy has deed to about 2000 acres that all join together on a small county deputy sheriff’s pay. He was caught but his relatives have title to the property. So where is the justice in things like this?
The best way to fight these morons in office is for all the working tax payers to move. It’s not an easy task but one has to ask themselves, how much are your rights and freedoms worth? When the tax paying base moves out and no one’s there to pay these idiots salary and support their rainbow and unicorn minds, guess what, money talks and BS walks!
i always say they really don’t want us dead, they just want us subservient, and ALIVE
All it now takes in Oregon is for politicians to decide private gun ownership is dangerous to society and POOF!
What 2nd Amendment?
Folks, we’ve been in a cold war for many years and I have a feeling it’s going to get hotter! No politician is immune to being anti Constitutional, as anyone who has been paying attention knows. All of government is an ever consuming black hole of the citizens resources and they always want more. This so called Bill can apply to anyone who owns a gun of any kind, all someone has to do is file a petition with the court and bye bye firearms! Your guilty by owning a gun! Local citizens better stand up before it’s too late!
“Brown defended the bill saying that gun owners can sue to have their rights restored.” Since when should we have to sue to have our rights restored? Jeez…….
and generate billable hours for their commie lawyers
So, you can commit suicide in Oregon LEGALLY if you pay doctors to do it with drugs but if you want to do it yourself they deem you mental and take your guns???? You just can’t make this shit up.
The cancer from Soviet Kalwilfukya seems to be spreading out, it needs to be extricated from the rest of the country like a giant puss boil.
I’ll never move to Oregon.
Folks, the gun grab is on. Sandy Hook was a fucking lie by traitors, just as 9/11 was treason by Bush, Cheney and Mossad.
When are these liberals going to wake up?
FYI, I am a gun-totin’ Liberal.
Well, with your logic, if you lived in Oregon you couldn’t own a gun !
9/11 so obviously an operation conducted by forces from within. Never really researched Sandy Hook but it wouldnt surprise me.
No doubt you’re a liberal with your beliefs.
Thank God I don’t live in Oregon, California, New York, Connecticut, Illinois or any of these democraptic run States. These governors, legislators, etc., need to be voted out!
. . . actually, I live in CT and besides the Assault rifle ban and 10 round magazine limit, it is a pretty easy going State. Getting a Concealed Carry Permit is extremely easy and usually gets processed within 6 months +/-. Getting Supressors is no big deal either except that you have to wait a year +/- like almost every other State. Once you have the CCP your Good2Go in CT. Walk into any Gun Store and you can legally buy all you want of the guns that are legal in CT. If you bought your Black rifles prior to the ban then they are all Grandfathered in and you can legally own them and shoot them. Also, you are legally allowed to own and use High Capacity magazines for home protection and at any shooting range. It’s the Property Taxes that kill me here!
You think 6 months to get a CC permit is OK? Are you missing taking your meds? NH did away with needing a permit to carry concealed. I myself and my wife DO have one for use in states that accept NH permits and to get that we fill out a one page form, pay the permit fee, give it to the Police Chief and we get our permit within 1 day!!!!!!!
And NO high cap mag limits, REAL black gun purchases, etc. The top of our NH vehicle plate read “LIVE FREE OR DIE”.
“It’s the Property Taxes that kill me here!” i moved from the socialist state of n j for that very reason…happy to live in a low tax red state
I live in Wyoming. No permit required for concealed carry. No restrictions on magazines or firearms. You need to remember the story about how to boil a frog. Place him in warm water. Gradually turn up the heat. He does not notice the change in temperature till it is toolate and he is cooked.
Punishment “up to” a year and $6250, which means maybe a few days and probably 50 bucks or so. The wrongful accusation should be to cover the persons entire legal costs to restore his rights and any damage he or his firearms have incurred (because we all know that the police department will move as rapidly as possible to monetize any unlawfully seized goods they can like all pirates), which invariably will be significantly more than $6250 if other states that have enacted similar laws are any indication.
These Democrat gun-grabbers are all cut from the same cloth, and I’m including the Republican scumbag who introduced this bill in the first place. What’s always amazed me are the myriad of excuses these people use in their efforts to subjugate our Constitutional rights. They’ll never admit that gun-grabbing is their ultimate goal. They’ll attack our Constitution in EVRY WAY POSSIBLE because that’s who these people are. They’re as anti-American as any socialists can possibly be, and they delight in every new attack they can get away with.
What about the present or imminent risk of her security detail injuring or putting at risk a constituent. Better head it off at the pass and take their firearms. P.S. Don’t worry about due process, citizens don’t deserve such a luxury.
Ya – right. The road to Hades is paved with good intentions
LOSER MUTT
I grew up in that beautiful state and I should not have to feel shame when I say it. I am so glad life brought to where I am now, Oregon is well and truly californicated.
This will be challenged in court and they will lose. This is a constitutional right. Second, fourth, and probably more. Colorado will lose this one and they know it.
…sorry, I missopke..Oregon. I was thinking of Hickenlooper in Colorado.
Yeah… easy to mistake.
When are the Oregonians wise up and not Elect people like this to Office —-I hope they flood her Office with Calls/emails with their disapproval of such nonsense
If you read the law, the police can confiscate anything they think is dangerous, so it is not only about guns. The liberals are in control of this state, and I just recently noticed we are a “sanctuary state” too. They won’t be happy until they make this a liberal dystopia like California is. Even though this law is unconstitutional, some poor sap who will be victimized by it will have to pay to fight it. I doubt that the ACLU will come to his defense either.
Yeah, it won’t be long before the police state starts to confiscate vehicles that ‘look’ like they could be used as a terrorist weapon of mass destruction on a crowded street. Especially if the driver is of dark complexion and wearing a beard.
I can see Oregon becoming less populated because of that dumbocunt. No as bad as Commiefornia but getting there
I’m sure she means well.
She may mean well, but did she kiss you Oregonians while she fucked you?
Bet y’all didn’t even get a reach-around after she screwed you…..