Chris Cox, Donald Trump, and Wayne LaPierre. Three peas in a pod. (Photo: Twitter/Chris Cox)
Well, that didn’t take long. Within 36 hours after president Trump put his foot in his mouth saying that he supported pre-due process gun confiscation, the National Rifle Association jumped in to set the record straight.
NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox posted the following on Twitter on the heels of a meeting with Trump at the White House Thursday night, “I had a great meeting tonight with @realDonaldTrump & @VP. We all want safe schools, mental health reform and to keep guns away from dangerous people.”
“POTUS & VPOTUS support the Second Amendment, support strong due process and don’t want gun control,” he added.
I had a great meeting tonight with @realDonaldTrump & @VP. We all want safe schools, mental health reform and to keep guns away from dangerous people. POTUS & VPOTUS support the Second Amendment, support strong due process and don’t want gun control. #NRA #MAGA
— Chris Cox (@ChrisCoxNRA) March 2, 2018
Trump also walked away from the meeting believing it to be a success. “Good (Great) meeting in the Oval Office tonight with the NRA!” tweeted Trump.
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Good (Great) meeting in the Oval Office tonight with the NRA!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 2, 2018
Trump had the gun community in a tizzy when he said, during his gun control get together with lawmakers Wednesday, that we should “take the firearms first and then go to court.”
“A lot of times by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process. I like taking the guns early,” explained Trump.
The discussion was in reference to extreme risk protection orders that allow law enforcement and family members to petition a judge to revoke an individual’s 2A rights if they can demonstrate that the individual is a danger to themselves or others.
Trump believed this controversial process to be too cumbersome and time-consuming, especially in the case of the Parkland killer.
“Like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida. He had a lot of firearms. They saw everything,” said Trump. “To go to court would have taken a long time. You could do exactly what you’re saying but take the guns first, go through due process second.”
Clearly, Trump’s comments contravene everything the NRA stands for. It was only a matter of time before Chris and Wayne weighed in on the matter. After all, the gun lobby has said that it is Trump’s “strongest, most unflinching ally.” Not a great look when the horse you backed is saying, while seated at a table next to a smizing Dianne Feinstein, “I like taking guns early.”
Why all this recent talk about taking away someone’s 2A rights? Is there nobody able to understand the plain and simple phrase “…shall not be infringed.” Where in the Constitution does it empower anyone to take away anybody’s guaranteed Rights? It’s all simply come down to living by the Law of the Land, or not!
READY…FIRE….AIM!
So, where is the part about the NRA correcting Trump? This article just says they met and had a great meeting.
I was disappointed & informed President Trump that due process comes first before confiscating ones Liberty under the law. He’s walking a slippery slope on the second amendment. The second amendment is non-negotiable on any terms. It states it very clearly in the Constitution.
It’s bad enough that all gun companies that will be hurt by a ban here in the US , in order to keep employees , they will have a need to sell outside of the US to other countries that want to buildup there arsenals .
Now president trump wants to confiscate first then go to court , because it will take more time . That will only make
any person who wants to commit a crime , to act on his or her intent sooner …
This issue has multiple avenues , but one is not being spoken about is unemployment of all who workers for these gun manufactures who will loose revenue ..They are not going to keep employees ,they can’t afford to pay .
Pres. Trump WORKS with people in a no schmidt, TCB way. People whine continuously about his style and he said this, he said that; he talked like a guy in the locker room, he hurt my feelings; he hates women (B. S. ), wah wah, wah. Look what he DOES, how much he has already DONE. Whether you like this or not, he’s a man of ACTION, not a silver-tongued conman.
Polar opposite of #44. Thank. God.
Ummm actually all I see and hear is a Silver Tounged Conman…..
The standard used in most jurisdictions is that a person may be detained if there is probable cause to believe that the person is a substantial risk to himself or others. Usually this means a person is then evaluated by a mental health professional and must be granted a hearing before a judge within 48 hours. The person is represented by an attorney and a judge determines whether the person will be committed for further treatment. Post- detainment due process is often the case in crimial arrests as well. The suspect is arrested when a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe a crime has been committed and the suspect is later presented to a judge… This is generally how it works – not specific legal advice.
Trump can say what he wants. In this case it was a violation of our Bill of Rights and couldn’t happen anyway, legally. If that approach would be taken, the sociopath would exonerated of any legal recourse, free to try again, only smarter maybe. Obama made it a routine to try and skirt the Constitution.
So, I guess a lot of you would have voted for Hillery if you had to do it over.
Trump has a common problem, I don’t know the psycho-babble term for it, but basically, he engages mouth before putting brain into gear.
You nailed it. What Trump *does* is mostly very good. What he *says* (in off-the-cuff remarks) is a BIG problem. He needs to trust his P.R. and public-communications people (e.g. Sarah Huckabee) to review comments before they’re made public — and part of that should be to turn off his Twitter account (or at least, let others review comments before they’re posted). His prepared (and presumably reviewed) comments are usually quite good. His comments are no longer Donald Trump’s comments, they’re the comments of the President of the United States; knee-jerk, not-thought-through comments undermine his credibility.
As is frequently said, anti-Trumpers take Trump literally but not seriously; Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally.
Trump had better wise up. The presidency was given to him by the silent majority. If he crosses them a win in 2020 is out of the question.
Follow the actions and results, not the words. Honest politicians do not exist. The best result one can hope for is a better economy, better health care – long and short term, and the protection of our freedoms. The second amendment is going to be fine once we fix all the incompetence of those selling or giving guns to folks that should not even be handed plastic utensils without being monitored.
He is as wise as a fox, joefoam. It’ll be all right.
LHS wise as a Fox!!!!! Lol……….you are a die hard fan of #45…..
He does not care about you….. trump will say whatever he thinks will help trump win votes. In this situation votes of the anti-gun movment.
Lets see Trump lied on DACA amnesty, he lied about being a supporter of the second amendment and the NRA says he is now saved. Problem is the NRA sold itself to the Devil when they said it was okay to take away bump stocks. Looks like they fell in the swamp and drank the water with Trumper. Lets all put our money in to a different mid term election and give the edge to the demorats. At lest we know they hate us up front.
Fuck yourself! Just contemplate the entire lying legacy of the Obama/ Clinton era, both Bill and Barak, and “she”! Trump saved America from the HELL of those one-world scums. Get your head out of your ass!
Trump did NOT save America, he is not the CHOSEN ONE….. he is the driving force dividing this great nation in two………We havent seen this much political divide since 1861…….really is sad. The world used to look to us as a gleam of hope, now the world looks at us in dispair……now Patrick I think its time to pull your head out of your ass.
Richard,
The NRA sold itself to the Devil a long time before this latest dust-up over bump stocks. They actively supported and helped in the writing of the 1934 NFA. They actively colluded with governmental entities in the writing and passing of the 1968 GCA. They have actively colluded with, assisted or simply stood off to the side and ignored the approaching storm clouds as new anti-gun legislation has been introduced and passed nationwide. Ask any California gun owner about how the NRA threw them under the bus over the SKS. Trump has been listening to the noisy minority of the anti-gun interests and has been swayed. We need to let him know that our right to keep and bear arms is sacrosanct and not to be messed with. I’m doing my part . . . now it’s time to do yours. The day has long since passed when you could send in your check to the NRA and consider you’ve done your part.
What other org has stood between the gov and the loss of the 2A nationally as well as the NRA? Other than take your dues, beg for more $ and do nothing, what other org has done anything effective? The only other I can think of is the TSRA (Texas).
Two face president, bad for country!!! Must remove….
He was taking about the ability to get and serve a restraining order, which requires a judges signature, due process.
The current proposal expands who can apply for an order and guarantees a hearing within 72 hours. While the devil is always in the details, does this sound unreasonable?
He’s an opportunist who has always been a democrat except when he is running for president. How could a true conservative, a true 2A constitutional believer ever say take the guns without due process? Whether he can change his mind or not those words should never be uttered by any POTUS never mind a GOP, NRA backed pres. There’s no excuse, I’m terribly disappointed.
Chill. It’ll be all right.
you guys still don’t get this. Trump is playing them the same way he played them on immigration. this is a ploy, but so many people just don’t understand Trump enough to get it. We’ve wanted a pres that could do this forever. Now we have one and you guys don’t understand. jeeze.
Can’t disagree more. He allows the wind to change his mind. Look at the steel and aluminum tariffs. First he blurted out tariffs for all, then walks it back except Canada and Mexico. Then it includes all nations eventually. This is thinking on the fly, not logic, just knee jerk reactions…… How about DACA, he wants a “bill of love” then slams congress’ plan. No one knows what comes next..A ticking time bomb without much qualified people around to give advice. I own and love firearms of all types, but tRump wants to do more harm than Obama ever did. Fact!
Read his books, then get back to me. He knows how to play.
True, but as Trump has said many times, he reserves the right to change his mind when, and as often, as he feels like it.
If the NICs improvement act passes they need to insert some way that those that are forced to defend their right or to recover their right gets a tax rebate for 100% of the legal and possible medical costs.
Medical costs? Do you mean legal costs?
He is referring to the medical costs for the person to prove he is not mentally incapacitated.
Medical, because you have to get an evaluation.
Legal, and the cost of your firearms.
His spontaneous point of concern for the time to act might have some relevance, if the authorities such as FBI and Broward’s Cowards had actually been trying to act and were hamstrung by a slow-moving process system. Can LE provide any evidence that there was an ongoing process in action to remove weapons from this killer who was a well known threat? This was not a movie scene where the hero cop was rushing to the scene, warrant in hand, only to arrive moments too late because of the slow wheels of justice. No such attempt was made, to our knowledge. There were no heroes in LE to be found.
Very true… Not that you would know it by listening/watching mainstream media.
Local LE had gone out of their way not to act.
In combination with a Miami-Dade County school district’s deal with LE (to artificially suppress student crime stats) and sheer incompetence/laziness by local LE, Cruz had been visited by police over 40 times in recent years. He wasn’t even charged for holding a gun to someone’s head (a felony), which had it been prosecuted would have barred him from owning guns outright and that incident alone would have caused his 2017 background check to be denied.
It seems Trump is being brainwashed all too easily, just like he is with the “Opioid Crisis” (where the real problem is not caused by Big-Pharma/Drs/Patients, but by drug-abusers getting Fentanyl from China using our very own USPS – who is subsidizing Chinese packages using our tax-dollars!).