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There’s a potential shakeup coming out of the ATF and according to the Gun Owners of America, it could be a big deal… depending on how far it actually goes.
At the center of it all is the Biden-era rule that required gun dealers to permanently retain firearm transaction records, those ATF Form 4473s that document who bought what.
GOA says that rule wasn’t just about recordkeeping. It was about building a registry. And now, with a new rule reportedly in the works under the Trump administration, there’s a chance to roll that back.
The question is: How much?
According to testimony cited by GOA, ATF leadership is currently reviewing how long those records should be kept, including whether older records even provide meaningful value in criminal investigations.
That’s where things get interesting.
Because even ATF’s own data—highlighted in the breakdown—suggests the usefulness of these records drops off fast.
After about 15 years, the success rate of tracing firearms “falls off dramatically,” and the agency itself has acknowledged it can’t reliably link trace data to actual criminal prosecutions.
In other words, the longer records are kept… the less useful they become. GOA’s takeaway? If the data doesn’t justify it, why keep them at all?
That’s why the group isn’t just pushing for a rollback to the old standard, where dealers kept records for 20 years. They want it gone entirely. Zero years. Their argument is rooted in both policy and principle.
From a practical standpoint, they say keeping decades’ worth of records creates a massive database. One that, when combined with out-of-business dealer records already stored by the ATF, effectively functions as a searchable registry.
And that’s not speculation. GOA points to nearly a billion records currently held by the ATF, many of them digitized and searchable.
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From a constitutional standpoint, they argue that kind of system runs directly against the intent of federal law, specifically the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986, which prohibits the creation of a centralized registry of gun owners.
There’s also a historical angle. The ATF originally required permanent record retention after the Gun Control Act, but reversed course in 1985, citing storage costs and limited usefulness, settling on the 20-year standard that stood for decades.
That’s the baseline many expect to return. But GOA says that’s not enough.
Because even under that system, records from defunct gun stores are still transferred to the ATF and kept, effectively extending retention far beyond 20 years in practice. Stack those timelines together, and you’re looking at the potential for 40 years of traceable ownership data.
And that’s exactly what GOA says needs to end. For now, nothing is finalized. The proposed rule hasn’t been released yet, and details are still limited.
But when it does drop, GOA is urging gun owners to pay attention and speak up during the public comment period. Because in their view, this isn’t just about paperwork. It’s about whether the federal government should be keeping tabs on gun owners at all.
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Blue dog, just curious if you’ve ever seen the statue of Early in Ellijay, GA? I have pictures!
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I believe your graph is incorrectly done. 1st, 1 % is 1 out of 100, therefore .86 % is even less than that. Worse, .41 % is less than that. 2nd, if the chances of getting a result in finding a gun drop off significantly after 5 years, than that number should show a smaller percent as the years increase in number. Such as 86 % hit rate at 5 years, 80 % at 10 tears, 65 % at 15 years, 41 % at 20 years. I hope this helps.
The public comment period by the ATF has always been a complete joke as the ATF pays no more attention to it than they do to used toilet paper. The only thing that prevents the ATF from implementing a proposed law is the heat they get from Congressmen who threaten to fire them if they go through with it. That usually puts a stop to it but the question always is will the Congressmen do anything this time around?
In reality what we really need is Federal Registration of all gun sales and it should be a permanent Federal Record. With computer storage this is no big problem. Every civilized Nation on earth has registration and it darn well does keep millions of guns out of the hands of lunatics and criminals. Selling “used guns” with no paperwork here in the U.S. is just pure insanity. You can literally walk out of prison, walk across the street to the nearest bar or flea market or in many cases a gun show and buy all the firepower you want, no questions asked. Now if this is not pure insanity I do not know what would be.
And remember the more sensational killings the more there will be calls for complete gun bans so Registration is a gun owners best friend but it is way over the heads of the paranoid nut cases on the Far Right.
And remember a Nation does not need registration to ban weapons as when they are banned you could not sell them, trade them, hunt with them, shoot them on a range or private property, or use them in a self defense situation so they become useless to you instantly and that happens without Registration.
the TRS-80 speaks.
Does anyone remember the mid-90s Conan O’brien character Pimpbot 5000? A combination of a 50s era sci-fi movie robot and a 70s era urban exploitation pimp character. He would claim he had a brand new modem and a silver-plated scrotum. A nose full of candy and a butt made by Tandy. He even got in a knife fight with Bob Dole once over who would be turning out Conan and Andy. Fun stuff.
dacian needs to get that personality upgrade. Or maybe – just maybe – a personality Upgrayedd.
I’m waiting on the test test posts
Bluedog’s buddy???? Liberal troll
They are not buddies. BD is a liberal but from a decent stock, very different type. BD would never cross the lines dacian does regularly.
He uses pronouns so he is an idiot and not worthy of reading let alone takin seriously. he is just another delusional leftist/communist.
I have zero time to deal with that kind of mental retarddation.
“I prefer not to consort with members of the robot race.” — Early Cuyler, Squidbillies
Blue dog, just curious if you’ve ever seen the statue of Early in Ellijay, GA? I have pictures!
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Currently, keeping a federal registration is against the law. Why don’t you list the nations you consider “civilized” so the history and laws can be reviewed?
The Governor of Illinois, Pritzker, has banned ownership of hundreds of firearms that are not registered, including rim fire guns. I’m sure you are all for that type laws. Recently that same Governor has signed a bill decriminalizing the transmission of AIDS. Do you consider this bill to decriminalize spreading AIDS a measure of a “civilized” society, yes or no?
I am trying to understand your final paragraph – are you saying that registration protects gun owners from firearms being banned? How can bans on firearms be enforced on unregistered firearms?
You railed against the private sales of firearms between individuals earlier in your post – what would stop a back market of banned firearms without registration? Banning drugs has ended the drug black market, with some states even decriminalising some drugs. Then there are concerns like 3D printed firearms and legally non-serialised firearms. Registration is an essential component of any of these control schemes you put forth.
If anything, you are really making it apparent why these large gun control ideas probably wouldn’t work.
like they will get rid of the records and they still have the background checks to fall back on.