Last month, Cardinal Joseph Tobin, the Archbishop of Newark, wrote a letter that asked Americans to toss our Second Amendment rights aside and rally for peace.
He wrote, in part:
Let’s voluntarily set aside our rights in order to witness the truth that only peace, and never violence, is the way to build a free society that is lived concretely in our homes, our neighborhoods, our communities, our nation and our world.
But, is becoming less dangerous, less capable of defending ourselves, the right path to societal peace?
The Cardinal’s viewpoint is clear: peace can only be achieved through a united commitment to nonviolence. To build a society without violence, we must voluntarily disarm, respect each other’s differences, and listen with open hearts.
It’s a beautiful idea, but in practice, does it strip us of necessary safeguards against oppression and tyranny? And beyond that, could it leave us defenseless in the face of everyday violence, unable to protect ourselves and our loved ones from truly violent offenders?
Enter Dr. Jordan Peterson’s interpretation of “the meek shall inherit the earth” (Matthew 5:5). Peterson flips the script on the typical interpretation of “meek.”
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Meek doesn’t mean weak or passive, according to Peterson. Rather, it describes those who are capable of force but choose to keep their weapons sheathed.
Watch this brief Youtube video to hear Peterson explain it:
So, the question becomes: Are we preserving peace by removing the capacity to wield force, or are we eroding our ability to protect ourselves and those we love?
The debate isn’t just about gun rights; it’s about balancing personal freedom with collective safety. It’s about maintaining the ability to protect ourselves while still fostering a society that’s safe and respectful of all its members.
Peterson’s stance implies a certain degree of responsibility and self-control: to be dangerous but not harmful.
Cardinal Tobin’s proposal is one of non-violence, urging us to be kind, understanding siblings of one human family.
In my opinion, I’m sure the Cardinal’s disarmament plea sounds noble to some. But in a world where people like Dahmer or Hitler exist, it’s not practical. Prayers won’t stop such villains. Good folks with the ability to fight back? That’s a different story.
What say you?
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He can eat a bag of richards.
Thankfully I am Baptist and don’t have to listen to guys who run around in dresses and kiss rings and would rather be around men than women. Look up Luke 23 sell your cloak and buy a sword.
He should probably focus on getting the pedophiles out of the church before he wants weigh in on taking my rights away. Stay with what you know padre.
Not For all the GOLD hidden in Rome.
NO WAY JACK.eat rocks
no WAY you give up your guards, then i still will not give up any i have
I think the Cardinal needs to keep his focus on important things like little boy’s asses. He clearly knows nothing of rights or peace.
Drop dead fat boy. It’s idiots like you that caused me to turn my back on the Catholic Church.
I’m with you there…I grew up Catholic and went to a Catholic private school (until I was old enough to make my own decisions at least) and although there’s so many good people associated with the church their insistence on trying to involve themselves in aspects of our lives where they have no business (among many other reasons) caused me to walk away as well…
Remember, my fellow Catholics, it’s not about the guy in the white or red suit, or the guy behind the pulpit, or the guy at the Vatican, heretical priests like Pfleger, or anyone else. Except that it is about the guy in the tabernacle: Jesus.
One should not loose sight of what is really important due to all of the noise. Jesus has had bumbling, incompetent, and even evil bishops, priests and other officials for the entire life of the Church, but that doesn’t diminish the central core of the Church, which is Jesus himself.
You can go pound sand a$$hole!
Sure Cardy-Jo-To, we can talk about this right after our prove that your touchy-feely (every pun intended) BS disarms the criminals first.
I mean, Catholic Cardinals have had really good judgement when dealing with controversial issues within the Church, so we should probably let them influence other issues of society.
I’ll get in line to turn in my gun, but I’ll let everyone else go ahead of me. Dominus vobis cum.
Nuts
I am a Roman Catholic,the Cardinal should check our Lords statement in case he missed it. It goes” render to Caesar the things that are Caesar,s and to God the things that are Gods” unquote .It,s none of the Cardinals business to even comment on the anything not related to religion. Comment on the blacks killing blacks at a record number. Or the senseless rioting and looting. Second right amendment our right,as is freedom of religion. Where would our country be if not for men taking up fire arms to ensure our liberty.
My last comment. Does the Cardinal have armed security,or the Pope.
If the self-righteous Cardinal wants to give up the most effective way to protect himself from violence and continue to be a urine-soaked bullet sponge, then so be it. It is none of his business or concern how I defend myself.
I would personally say B.S. to him and everyone that agrees with him.
not with this government .george soar ass ,bill gates ,klaus shwab. Hell no ! I saw the state farm arena footage at the 2020 election .
Yes! We’ll give them up, when the Catholic Church punishes all the pedophiles that currently and previously held positions of trust and authority. And have not been punished yet. So in other words, on about the 5th of NEVER.
I think the Cardinal has two parts of his anatomy connected. Get real Padre. If no 2A rights it will be total chaos!!
The good cardinal would better use his time molesting little boys.
So this cardinal believes we should all ‘turn the other cheek’ and become endless victims? I don’t think so! I wonder what all those abused little boys think about the wisdom of the catholic priests?
To Cardinal Tobin: “Democrat Gun control is defined as: A Liberal belief that people who are willing to ignore laws against rape, torture, kidnapping, theft, and murder will MAGICALLY obey a law which prohibits them from owning a firearm.” Please keep in mind Our US Founding Fathers wrote the Second Amendment, very clearly for the purpose of arming the citizenry as a means to confront and halt the usurpation of power by corrupt government that has become weaponized against the People. For those that say that’ll never happen:
Gun Control Hall of Fame!
Stalin: Took guns away from his citizens in 1929 then murdered 20 million of them once defenseless.
Mao: Took guns away from his citizens in 1935 then murdered 20 million of them once defenseless.
Hitler: Took guns away from his citizens in 1938 then murdered 13 million of them once defenseless.
Pot: Took guns away from his citizens in 1956 then murdered 2 million of them once defenseless.
Note: The government during Mao’s rule was responsible for vast numbers of deaths with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims through starvation & persecution from his failed Agricultural /Industrialization Plan. In my post I am referring to direct murders as a result of Political non-conformity!
Historic Fact: Governments in total have disarmed and executed over 262 million of their own people in the 20th Century. So, please tell me again why Governments should be the only ones with guns?
The founding fathers and others that drafted the Constitution and wrote about self defense knew very well what religion could do when it became part of the government. King James II disarmed all Protestants and the Protestants did the same do Catholics after the power shifted to Protestants.
Hey Padre you don’t live on the streets and in the homes in dangerous neighborhoods, and we don’t have 24 hour guards for protection like you do, so when some one breaks into my house or confronts me on the street with a weapon and I fear for my life I want the means to defend myself and my family at hand, because you can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which gets filled the first if you take my meaning.
This Catholic says his nose needs to be rubbed in Stalin’s Soviet Union, Mao’s China, Hitler’s Germany. He needs to worry about saving souls and to stay in his lane.
When they stop molesting children !!! ” Remove the sty from thine own eye.” first….The church has paid out more money in child molestation cases than any other organization has ever paid out to compensate for guilt in all of recorded history !!!!!
He fears for his associates and maybe himself from those sexualy abused alter boys from the past that have decided on some payback. What other reasonable explanation could there be?
I’m Catholic. I know of Catholics and Jews for guns. They do not think like the good Cardinal!
A cardinal that must not have heard about the crusades.
The only reason that we are still citizens is the 2nd Amendment. There are between 450 and 500 million firearms in the US. Last year there was around 26 thousand homicides. Of those 26k, 71% or around 18.5k are criminal on criminal deaths, gangs killing off each other. That means that if a separate firearm was used in the deaths of innocent people that accounts for around .0000018% of firearms. That’s about 10k less than the number of priests didling kids.
More people are beat to death with bare fists each year then killed with a firearm.
Which is about 1/10th the number of Reformtard parsters diddling kids.
And the Crusades, with the exception of the bad end of the 4th, were about liberating the Holy Land from radical Islam. Y’know….your and Joe Biden’s buddies, the Taliban.
Otherwise we agree.
I won’t be surrendering anything. But I encourage you to come and take it.
Take a hike Cardinal. We love to Hunt in this family! AND target shoot at the range. We gun owners will NEVER give up our gun rights!!!!
Disarm the Swiss Guard at the Vatican and see how that works first.
That Fat priest’s comments should not even printed. Some his followers think he has a point .
When he is the one who forgives criminals for their crimes by the wave of his hand ! Then the Criminals go back on the street and do the crimes all over again! Mafia is a good example of this! Criminals don’t care what the law is ,that’s why they are called CRIMINALS!
WHEN Cain killed Able with a rock ,God did not confiscate all the rocks .God blamed Cain!
Lol. Trust in God. Not the Pharisees of today.
It’s not amazing that a person which does not create its own income, hunts, forages, or even goes to market, which belongs to the second oldest profession, a socialist profession at that, asks you to do something he has never understood or needed to survive. AMAZING. (Ref; oldest profession is Prostitution, I think it’s a neck and neck contest for number one)
Somehow, the requests of an organization whose history of oppression has been exceeded only by Nazi Germany and by Communism, and who, in more recent history, protects the pedophiles within its own ranks rings hollow with me.
After looking at this sleeze-ball, my first thought is just how many children has he molested.
Screw that asshole. Next thing they (catholic church) will want is your gold fillings out of your dead mouth.
The level of sanitizing that would require for yours exceeds the Sun’s core temp.
According to the author, ” it’s about balancing personal freedom with collective safety. ”
No, it is not. The United States is not a collectivist society like China or North Korea. Rights are not subject to popularity, the will of the majority, or the needs of society. As William Pitt, the Younger, said, “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”
The fascistic and communistic “priests” that have infiltrated the Catholic Church all the way up to Pope Francis, they sit on their thrones, in their robes, surrounded by Swiss Guard mercenaries, armed to protect them but they want their parishioners to give up their inalienable right to protect their families and themselves form the out of control evil doing criminals. This guy should be excommunicated from the church.
Correct!
Very similar to the Pharisees 2000+ years ago.
Sorry Cardinal , Not happening. Why don’t you call the Pope and tell him to get rid of all Vatican security forces. After all, we are all loving creature and the Vatican should lead by example. Let me know how that plays out for you.
some how the word Mormons came into my first post It should be the same as the top .I’m a Pagan the bill of rights gives me that .I won’t change what I said other than that .I will add church and state must remain separate at all costs.lawsuits is
n ever state of the union what a disgusting mess.Hail Oden
Where is this separation of church and state in the constitution that you are talking about?
I believe even less in any thing the Catholic church has to say and I want to tell you there wasn’t much there anyway.I think all those child molesting Mormons of the pope should publicly confess and just go away .Merry met
I’ m catholic I have no use for the hierarchy of the church. We have useless president glorifies abortions. Pushes that typeof agenda. He should be excommunicated from the Catholic church from receiving the sacraments if they have the guts. My answerer to that cardinal FU u can send it to him if you like The pope is included
Peaceful like when the Spaniards destroy the Aztec, Mayan and Inca civilization and raped, pillaged and plundered and sent shiploads of stolen gold back to Spain and Rome? The cardinal lives behind a wall and is protected. No thanks.
Maybe you’d prefer to be one of those 50-500K a year of captives who had their hearts ripped form their living bodies and eaten by aAztec priests? Which the Conquistadores stopped, cold?
I got two 9mm pistols, plenty of ammo and am buying more guns and bullets. I do not want to talk to violent blacks, nor homosexuals nor transgenders…
As a faithful Catholic I completely disagree with Multiple points of this. First a Cardinal has no duty to involve himself in politics of any kind so commenting on anything involving the constitution or policies decided by politicians and the people is not within his perview. Secondly CCC 2263-2265 specifically talk about self defense, even mentioning defense of oneself or others not only being a right but also a grave duty for those who are responsible for the lives of others (CCC 2265).
I understand the call for peace but peace does not require the relinquishment of one’s right to defend themselves if anything peace requires it because as long as there is evil there can be no peace.
One mortal mans opinion just because he is a cardinal his opinion carry’s no more weight than anyone else! And How does he plan on getting criminals to disarm ? Im sure the next thing that will come out of his mouth is how we should all accept LGBTQQIP2SA as normal?
When people with a lot of time on their hands that aren’t allowed to play with little boys anymore start getting involved in politics I start forgetting who I am supposed to be shooting at
Looks to me the Cardinal should give up pizza and cannolis
God, Family, Country,and Guns so I can be free to worship. In 1776 they fought to be free to do that.
Perhaps Cardinal Tobin should demand the Vatican give up it’s armed Swiss guards, and report back how well it worked.
Being a Catholic whose uncle was a Monsignor in the Catholic Church and having been in the seminary myself, I wanted to respond to the Cardinal in the most vile, vicious way I could think of to express my displeasure with his asinine ignorance and stupidity! Maybe he should look back to the Papal States and remiss about how many were murdered under the authority and orders of a Pope!
That said, I am also greatly distressed at the number of idiots and morons who are calling out the church as a group for child abuse! This shows the ignorance and stupidity of those that listen to the Communist Progressive Liberal Moron Media whenever it suits them, knowing full well that they exaggerate and outright lie! The majority of the priests in the Catholic Church or not abusing children, so shut up with that garbage!! Every religion or religious persuasion has its share of pedophiles and homosexual, but the moron media loves to focus mostly on the Catholic Church! As Jesus said, Satan will endeavor to sift you like wheat!
Remember the INQUISITION, when they had all the POWER and they Killed MILLIONS…I’ll keep My Guns thank You!
Great idea, Cardinal. Lets also give up our right to practice the religion of our choice too. After all, violence is committed everyday by people in the name of religion whether they are Christian anti-abortion fanatics or radical Islamists and what about giving up our right to assemble? If groups larger than three persons could be disbanded by the authorities surely that would put an end to any mob violence. Lets give up freedom of speech too because words can make people angry enough to do terrible things.
Here is typical ‘splashier’, he wants notoriety for the next conclave. He has little understanding of the real world and less insight into the criminal mind. But HARK, peace will concur all a faux euphoria.
Or he is a Kool-Aid drinker of the communist manifesto and is willing to lead his flock into servitude to a benevolent dictatorship (that is NOT catholic nor religious). BTW, just how did the Vatican survive Italy’s Duce/NAZI’s? Who got sold out?
Here is another reason the catholic church membership is in serious decline there leaders are pompous, arrogant, idiots that do not know their few minions but willing to jeopardize their safety. Vietnam killed my religion.
Does he not remember David and Goliath? Are we not in a David and Goliath scenario? BIG BROTHER Government may not be in his purview…. It’s ALL that “We the People” see!
THIS, is our modern day “David and Goliath” battle!
WE, are here to see it through ! WE, will not lose!
So the guards that protect his behind what do they carry? Bags of rocks.
A Catholic Cardinal with a religion that is full of full of and supports LGBTQ++ people and Pedophile priests wants my guns, You are sick Cardinal Tobin!
What I think is that the Cardinal should STAY out of American politics. It is not the adult legal American citizen causing all these shooting. He should concentrate on the family and how the use of a youth can get his hands on a gun. Family and family teachings are lacking. Let him direct his attentions to that problem.
This .an is a FOOOOOOL!
The cardinal lives in his own little secluded, protected world and doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. How would he like it if I infringed on his right to address the masses, or to pray, or to live off the people through the church? He needs to keep his mouth shut when he knows not what he’s saying, but I haven’t met a priest yet that could do that. They love to hear the sound of their own voice.
The 2A gave us the best tool to defend ourselves. Without it, we have picks, shovels, and frying pans.
There is not now, nor has there ever been, any nation that did not experience violence.
I realize the Cardinal wants peace. However, there has never been a time in history when total peace was achieved. Violence is a critical part of nature. It is, unfortunately, a critical part of humankind. Even the defense of oneself is violent. If I have to partake in violence, I want the best tool available for my defense.
I think Catholic Churches need to clean up their own act and bring justice for the child abused children and the victims.
Maybe just maybe, His eminence would feel differently if Our Constitution was amended to read:
No Freedom to worship. It may be amended if our 2d Amendment is changed or lost completely.
Maybe that cardinal should stop worrying about law abiding citizens and worry more about the child diddling that goes on in the Catholic churches.
Hey Cardinal Tobin, you have some nerve, why don’t you and your ilk stick to stopping pedophiles in your church leadership, like you, before you tell other people how to live. The Catholic Church has murdered more humans throughout history than all the gun owners in America put together!!!!!! You are a truly evil, terrifying, demon that needs to disarm the world so you can dictate how everyone else must live. Please return to hell from whence you came!!!!!
Once the good Bishop and God Our Father In Heaven, can finally win the hearts and minds of evil doers? I plan on keeping my God given right to self defense, as well as my weakened, arthritic aging body can, while armed with good eyesight and aim!
As a practical Catholic man myself, His eminence should keep his opinion to himself unless it involves Church matters. As a retired USMC officer, who owns weapons and has seen first hand, the results of defenseless people in far off lands having been raped, beaten, and forced into submission by thugs, criminals and their own government… His eminence can Kiss My Hairy Ass.
When the drug dealers and drug lords turn in their firearms, I”ll turn in mine.
Sure cardinal , why don’t you go down to Venezuela and help them find peace!!
Hate to point it out but religion and churches have been the cause/excuse for countless wars and atrocities for millennia so sorry cardinal you don’t have anything to back you up when it comes to churches/religion and peace, actually seems to be the opposite.
The Cardinal should have requested that evil doers repent and stop obtaining firearms illegally and then using them in felonious acts. Then his message would have been appropriate.
Telling Americans to give up their Constitutional right to bear arms is totally inappropriate and also out of the Cardinal’s swim lane. But what can we expect with a NWO Pope who told us to take the Covid Jab regardless of its aborted fetal tissue contents. Sad state of affairs when a leading representative of “Christianity” takes these kinds of actions.
this coming from a church who tortured and burned people who didn’t worship them and their religion. no torquemada I don’t think I’ll give up my weapons today.
however when the creator who judges all comes ill unload and show clear as I lay them at his feet.
You knowledge of Catholic – and likely, any other – history comes from the Ozark bunker where your prognathous parster fumes ‘Vangerlilercal thunderation.
Other than that, the Cardinal’s well-meaning opinion is just that – an opinion.
Why are people so stupid???
Do you think criminals will give up their guns???
Do you think this will cause the government to loosen up on their control?
Do you think giving up our guns will deter another country from invading us?
WAKE UP!! Idiots!
The golden rule of history:
Those who beat their swords into plow shares end up doing the plowing for someone else.
So not I, sayeth this well armed Roman Catholic K of C member.
He’s from the East Coast what else would you expect.
I think that’s real hypocritical. The pope and the cardinals have armed security. Christ and his apostles carried swords, they weren’t defenseless. When they came for Jesus, Peter drew his sword and cut off the ear of one person.
My gun is my sword, I’m not giving it up for a clergyman or a politician, get over it. I don’t intend to be defenseless, ever.
People who give up security for peace will have neither.
What say I? As a practicing and (hopefully) devout Roman Catholic, I say no.
Our 2A is simply a recognition of humans’ natural rights, which are given by God, and acknowledged in the Bill of Rights, which does not grant these pre-existing rights, but binds the government from infringing upon them.
So 2A: God given, absolute, non-negotiable. Period. Don’t like it? Tough shit.
Besides, Cardinal Tobin should withhold his recommendation until the Vatican sends the Swiss Guard home, and all government officials shed their paid armed security forces. Then, and only then, can he speak without hypocrisy.
Sounds like the same line the Nazi’s used to take the peoples protection away.
We all saw how great that turned out!
This guy is not that bright!
Luke 22:36
“He said to them, ‘But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.’”
I listen to Jesus; not some appointed cardinal! As a human being he is fallible; Jesus is not!
They’d love to disarm us. That way they can’t be shot by some angry parent when they are caught molesting their kids.
Just ask Jews in in Germany in the late 1930s if it’s ok to give up your rights for the sake of peace. Now ask the survivors in the 1940s if it was still ok? Why should anyone give up their higher ideals of civility to appease the uncivilized barbarians? Right to bare arms is not a right to irresponsible use of a weapon. A civilized society understands that firearms, like knives, bows, and dynamite are all tools and need to be used correctly and responsibly.
The church and it’s minions need to stay out of politics.
Has the pope taken down his wall yet?
Ya, how’d that go for all those “Non-Catholic” Christians called by various names but were Protestants back in the “Dark Ages”? The Roman Catholic Church hounded them to slaughter them – millions of them. That was the reason for settling America, or have you forgotten?…
Um, there was equal opportunity persecution for religious and other reasons that drove emigration to America. Maryland was predominantly populated by Catholics, and Irish immigrants were driven by the persecution of the protestant English government/king, just to cite a few examples
People accused of capital offenses by civil courts in Catholic Countries, would often blaspheme to get themselves in front of ecclesiastical courts, which were much more lenient. Lots of Reformistas here who bought into the Limey-invented “Black Legend.”
Y’know, those Limeys who like to slap people in jail for noting radical Muslims commit crimes at a far greater clip then native Brits, or Facebook posts not glowingly positive about the Vax, or (my fave) 2 years in prison for a father and son who had a Smith and Wesson #2 .22 short revolver dating from the 1860’s, rusting in a barn.
Whose state religion was founded by a guy who wanted to doink women other than his wife, and murdered two of them.
Just the folks you want to trust with writing the history you believe.
Wowee! Isn’t he just a picture of gluttony and pride?
The bible is full of the righteous doing battle will evil leaders and oppressors. The message to live in a meek manner is one thing but to stand by while evil overruns the meek is quite another. I reject the Cardinal’s notion for peace. President had the right formula for peace through strength. We get there through proper leadership; which is absent today.
the phrase ‘the meek shall inherit the earth”, had it not been for the white americans going ashore at d day, this cardinal would have gotten part of his wish, no 2A, slavery and genocide would fill the gap.
I haven’t seen the quote yet so here it goes:
God made man, Sam Colt made them equal.
I’m all for equality.
I’ve added to the end of the saying , though informally ,
“ God created man , Sam Colt made them equal .
With the aid of John Browning , some became superior . “
Would be nice if Cardinal Tobin would address all the violence against unborn children conducted in America, and around the world.
After the Pope took it upon himself to decide that Jesus errored when He gave us the Lord’s Prayer and change it, it’s little surprise that some Catholic Cardinal would feel justified in proposing to change our Bill of Rights. Another reason for the separation of church and state.
I think that the cardinal and anyone else that thinks this way need to take a course on world history since creation!! Luckily for the people of the United States, we have a God given right to protect ourselves! Shall not be infringed!!!
How about he police his own people from molesting young kids first. He needs to address issues they have before judging others. No wonder the churches are losing participants..
The Cardinal needs to be reminded that Christ’s disciples carried swords for protection. Israel of that time was a dangerous place. (IE Parable of the Good Samaritan) Peter did not cut off the servant’s ear with a butter knife, to be sure.
I would think he’d wish to address the rampant molestation of children by priests first.
So the Cardinal wants use to give up our guns. Why doesn’t he give up idolatry worshipping statues of Mary and the eucharist that they take at communion. Before you try to take the splinter out of your brothers eye, first you must take the log out of your own.
Catholics do not worship Mary or any other saint depicted in sculpture or other art. The heresy of iconoclasm was settled more than 1000 years ago, and it is recognized that art is simply scripture rendered in means other than writing. Catholics do, however believe that the Holy Eucharist (communion) is the literal body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ. Why? Because Jesus said so.
What Church do you belong?
Without imagery, how would you suggest an illiterate population be taught the Gospels in the Midievel Ages?
Before Martin Luther, there was only Catholic and Orthodox Church, which Church did your ancestors belong? Were your ancestors Christians at the time before the “Protestant Reformation”?
Did Jesus NOT save souls until high tech mega church Joel Olsteen pop up on TV?
He belongs to the Charch o’Costco Bags o’Beans and Rice in the Lower Ozarks.”
I can point to lots – many more in fact – of ostensible Reformista charches that advocate forced civil disarmament, and side with eh left on core issues like abortion.
Clean your own house, Reformatard.
By the way, maybe this site would like to give equal time to all the Jewish forced gun-grab advocates, starting with Soros and Bloomberg. We might be here awhile.
Stay in your lane. Go molest some more children you sick uneducated pig.
Following his THEORY we should outlaw the catholic church also because of the pedophiles ,slaughter of native cultures, theft of world treasure and the inquisition…phyk him
This Pious luna tick is out of his mind He is really deep into this turn the other cheek shit
The World Does Not work that way It is an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
Any FOOL who would go along with this insane shit deserves what they get
BULLSHIT and guess who said vote for biden?
and remember what adolf did also
This cardinal appears to have already given himself to the false church of Satan and the new world order. A new world where true Christians are not tolerated. Do I need to prove the ant-Christian bias that is growing?
Get this cardinal removed. He doesn’t understand America and is naive. NEVER give up your 2A rights. How did we win against the tyranny of Axis nations in WW2? Was it through violence?…. yes. The new enemies of America are mostly within our borders. But pray for America to become America again.
This dope Tobin,lives in a fantasy world.
The archbishop of Newark, NJ wants us unarmed? If the Archbishops of Baltimore, Chicago, and Detroit get behind it then we should do it.
The cardinal needs to worry about the Pope and we’ll continue to keep our rights
A most dangerous cabale lead the US today. Who in the Catholic Church has spoken out? Many Catholics believe that reconcilliation between the Orthodox Churches and the Catholic Church was essential to the future of mankind. That all seems lost now.
Retired US Army General Flynn (former highly respected National Security Advisor), Manifort and others were trying to reverse the death tango that the Barry Soetoro Administration has ignited. Soetoro called Flynn the most dangerous man in the US. Soetoro lied again and the deep state set out to destroy this patriotic and highly decoraed American.
So what has the Pope done? He fell for an old trick. The Pope met with the fake Ukrainian, Volo Zelenskyyy, shook the hand of a man who persecutes the Orthodox Church in The Ukraine. The photo op goes out on the wires and it looks like the Pope approves of Zelenskyyys war crimes against the Orthodox Church.
The cabal of Soros, Zelenskyyy, Blinken, Soetoro et cetera are the real danger and the Cardinal and the Pope are so easily duped.
the meek will inherit the earth………after the rapture what are they getting………..I will keep my guns and use as required
He says he wants us to “rally for peace”. Sure! I’m all for that. But it will be done WITH my firearms firmly in my possession. Once a society gives up their means to protect themselves and then decides to rally for peace, that rally is usually crushed by the oppressive and tyrannical government that they surrendered their guns to…
This guy’s reality check has bounced. In a perfect world he may be right, but we do not live in a perfect world. The best way to prevent violence is to be prepared to inflict violence on those who would do you harm. A wise man once said “We sleep peacefully in our beds at night because rough men stand ready in the dark to inflict violence on those who would do us harm.” We have seen the results of defunding the police and prosecutors who refuse to pursue violent criminals. Enough is enough. It is time to take back our safety and our freedom.
This cardinal is either a complete total moron or a communist. If the citizens of this country put down their guns the government would swoop in and crush us. All of us. Freedom would then be a thing of the past. So cardinal you can go f#$% yourself, idiot.
The catholic church has a long history of violence. Murdering people who have a different viewpoint or faith. Fomenting wars. Let them give up their vast wealth hidden away in the vatican to the poor and hungry. That would solve many much human suffering. Hey cardinal, how about you lead by example? Go on a diet. You look morbidly obese. Share your food with the hungry in newark.
I’m sure you keep slim on a diet of Sam’s Club pinto beans and unfiltered river water.
The Cardinal doesn’t have it quite right. Evil is Evil. The word Jesus actually used was means “a man who owns a sword, knows how to use it, and keeps it in its sheath”. The meek will inherit bondage. But the peaceful warrior will win the day.
Hey Cardinal,
Why don’t you start with the Catholic Cardinals and preacher’s that were murdered by the Naxi’s and all the other Biblical folks including the Nun’s which were raped by the Nazi’s (YES, My grandfahter met a few during the war) and more recently Socialist government type’s AND WHEN YOU HAVE CONVERTED THEM to act like a human, you come back and talk to me.
THEN AGAIN, Start by having The Pope’s personal bodyguards give up thier gun’s first !
Respectfully, A person who heard all the stories never told about the churches preachers and nun’s of the atrocities carried out by not only the Nazi’s but those who sympathised with them.
The cardinal needs to worry about the Pope and we’ll continue to keep our rights
Does this mean the Pope will disband and/or disarm his Swiss Guard?
I don’t care if he’s a Cardinal, the Pope or any other anti-2A nut. It’s the weak, near sighted people, that can’t or won’t see the truth about the world of crime and totalitarian governments. The criminals and governments will never give up any weapons or control they have, crimes and deaths will grow exponentially ! Which in turn, will cut back on their church donations in the same amount, meaning their religious cartel bank roll will shrink, along with their followers that use to donate, because they’ll be afraid to go to church, have no money or be dead. But what the hell, the church approves abortions, so why shouldn’t they approve killing everyone else that is innocent, by asking them to give up their 2A rights. Not me, I’m keeping mine !
P.S. I am catholic, by birth. I’m not a hater, just my opinion and the way I see things.
The blood of someone that dies because they surrender their firearm, will be on this cardinal’s hands. I truly hope he’s ready for the repercussions for such a Stupid suggestion. The Bible does say the meek shall inherit the earth, but a dead meek person will only inherit the earth where they are buried. Like I heard all my life “Educated, but No Common Sense!!!” My uncle served in WWII and was a sniper he was Catholic but had no qualms about protecting himself and his fellow soldiers, and he was one of meekest men I have ever known. God rest his soul ✝️🇺🇸🇺🇸
Ya gotta wonder just what the ‘good’ cardinal would do if he encountered someone raping one of the nuns under his regime? As many times as the catholic hierarchy has turned a blind eye to ‘excesses’ on the part of their priests, I wouldn’t count on him to save her. Harry Callahan had the proper solution.
Every family in the Old Testament was armed – plus, during New Testament times, every family in the bronze age that wanted to survive long enough to reproduce and prosper – and not be fed to the Roman lions. And how about that sling shot of David’s? It’s a long-standing, historical, natural, God-given human right / instinct to bear arms and be ever prepared for defense. Anything less was and is totally irresponsible.
This coming from a person surrounded by armed guards
( if he lives in the Vatican).
I don’t think criminals and those possessing illegal guns are going to line up to turn them in. What kind of fantasy land is he living in?
Jim – since he apparently lives in jersey he likely doesn’t have Swiss guards but most likely has a personal protective detail.
I know the Cardinal from his time in Indianapolis. He is a good man and I understand his plea. However, I don’t agree with it.
He doesn’t have a “protective detail”, nor does he want one. He is quite formidable at 6’3″, 300lbs and routinely works out. (I saw him bench 300lbs in 2015.) I’m sure he made quite the lineman in his day.
Regardless, we all want peace in our neighborhoods… “Si vis pacem, para bellum.”
So in the time you knew him in Indianapolis, what worth while stands did he support?
I am Catholic, attend Church regularly and people like me want to see the Clergy take worthwhile stands. So many of the Clergy have hurt the most vunerable of the flock in the worst way.
It seems that all the Clergy that can be seen now are the ones who support left-wing stands and strut around like Cock Robin. Scarce funds have been sent to poor causes and the tax exempt status put at risk. It’s embarassing.
Geez get off his dick already.
The Cardinal forgets that GOD gave us inalienable rights; life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the right to defend ourselves. I highlight and underscore defend ourselves and our families. Our founders understood this and even in the first skirmish of our independence an order was given to not fire first.
Ben Franklin said it best! It goes something like this: Those who are willing to give up a little liberty for safety deserves neither!!!
And just a sidebar to the Bishop’s health. He should probably go on a diet and share more of the quantity of food he’s consuming with his flock! And keep his pie hole shut about our GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!!
I got no problem if god protects me from harm but I will keep my glock just in case he is too busy at the time!