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The shooting of Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a 37-year-old ICU nurse killed by federal agents in Minneapolis on January 24, 2026, has become radioactive almost instantly. Everyone rushed to pick a team. Pro-ICE versus anti-ICE. Pro-Trump versus anti-Trump. Gun people versus non-gun people. And in the middle of all that noise, the actual facts and the Constitution started getting trampled.
That’s why Colion Noir’s breakdown matters. He didn’t run cover for anyone; he didn’t play partisan defense. He didn’t pretend ugly facts weren’t ugly. And, he did something that’s increasingly rare: he stayed consistent.
And consistency is the whole point of the 2A.
Let’s start with the uncomfortable part. President Donald Trump. When asked about Pretti, Trump defaulted to a line that should make every gun owner cringe: “You know, you can’t have guns. You can’t walk in with guns. You just can’t.” That’s not just sloppy. That’s wrong. Flatly wrong.
In Iowa, Trump also told a reporter, “I don’t like that he had a gun. I don’t like that he had two fully loaded magazines. That’s a lot of bad stuff. And despite that, I’d say that’s… very unfortunate.”
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Pretti was legally carrying under Minnesota law. Carrying a firearm, even with “two fully loaded magazines,” is not a crime. It is not evidence of intent. It is not probable cause. And it sure as hell isn’t justification for post-hoc political commentary that treats gun ownership itself as “bad stuff.”
Can the FBI just enforce the law without adopting every leftist gun banner talking point?
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) January 25, 2026
🚫Carrying a gun = bad intentions.
🚫Loaded guns = bad guns.
🚫Spare magazines = extra bad.
🚫More than 10 rounds = bad.
Here’s the key point Noir nailed: when a pro-2A president says anti-gun nonsense, the 2A community doesn’t get a hall pass to ignore it. Calling it out isn’t betrayal. It’s accountability. Rights don’t survive on vibes or loyalty. They survive on consistency.
At the same time, Noir refuses to lie to make anyone feel better. Was it smart for Pretti to show up armed to a protest involving federal agents? Probably not. But legality and wisdom are two different conversations, and collapsing them is how rights quietly disappear.
Pretti didn’t lose his Second Amendment rights because he was protesting ICE. He didn’t lose them because people didn’t like his politics. And he didn’t lose them because someone decided, after the fact, that carrying a gun “looked bad.”
That’s not how constitutional rights work.
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Jon Stewart on point 🔥🎯
— Wu Tang is for the Children (@WUTangKids) January 27, 2026
"I wasn't shocked when you guys gave up the 1st Amendment, and I wasn't shocked when you gave up the 4th and the 10th and the 14th at Trump's behest, but the 2nd?….Come on, guys. Guns are your whole personality" pic.twitter.com/MhgGAfLet0
Where this case turns dark is the video. Based on the available footage, Noir lays out what looks less like a justified use of force and more like a cascading failure: poor situational awareness, escalating force, panic, and a situation that spiraled into lethal chaos.
The most damning detail?
Pretti appears to have been disarmed before shots were fired. An agent removes the firearm and moves away with it. Another agent, who was apparently not directly threatened, draws and fires from behind. Then more shots follow, even as Pretti is on the ground, motionless.
That matters. Under Graham v. Connor and Tennessee v. Garner, deadly force is judged officer-by-officer, second-by-second, under an objective reasonableness standard. A gun existing is not the same thing as a gun being a threat. Once a firearm is controlled, the legal math changes immediately, as Noir correctly asserts.
This is where Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s early framing runs into trouble. Calling this “defensive” before the facts are settled doesn’t help public trust. And it doesn’t help the agents involved if the evidence doesn’t back it up.
None of this means Pretti made perfect decisions. Stepping into an active law enforcement confrontation while armed introduces real risk. Noir is clear about that. Carrying a gun means you assume a higher practical responsibility, even if not a higher moral one.
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But responsibility cuts both ways.
Federal agents carry weapons, authority, and the full weight of the state. That means their margin for error is smaller, not larger. If the shooting continued after the threat was neutralized, that’s not politics. That’s law.
And this is the most important takeaway: this case should not be hijacked into an ICE debate or a tribal loyalty test. Strip away the slogans and what’s left is a man who was legally exercising his rights, a series of bad decisions and reactions, and a deadly outcome that deserves scrutiny, not spin.
As Noir puts it plainly: if this doesn’t bother you, no matter which side you’re on, something is wrong.
The NRA unequivocally believes that all law-abiding citizens have a right to keep and bear arms anywhere they have a legal right to be.
— NRA (@NRA) January 28, 2026
The truth doesn’t care who you voted for. Rights don’t either. And if the Second Amendment only matters when it’s politically convenient, then it doesn’t really matter at all.
The investigation needs to play out. The facts need to be nailed down. But constitutional consistency isn’t optional. And Colion Noir is right to demand it, even when it makes people uncomfortable.
Donald Trump has advocated for taking guns away from American citizens (2018 & 2025) without due process. And for those constitutionally challenged: the whole point of due process is that it's given BEFORE the action.
— The Last American Vagabond (@TLAVagabond) November 30, 2025
"Take their guns first, due process later." -Donald Trump pic.twitter.com/VDzknVgMix
What’s your take on this SNAFU? In Trump we still trust? Based on the available evidence, was the use of deadly force justified?
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The only thing idiotic about Trump’s comments are the idiots who believed he was actually pro-2A. I can forgive the cultists because they’ll follow anything their orange god says, and even now are doing just that by claiming “chess, not checkers”, that Pretti deserved to be killed, that having a known gun-grabber as your AG is not evidence of a willingness to grab guns, etc etc etc. The cultists know no better, they weren’t born with critical thinking skills. However, the amount of pro-2A folks who can think critically still voted for this a-hole thinking he’d be good is mind-boggling. This is not an endorsement of the Democrats, they’re just as authoritarian as the Republicans. However, if you voted for Trump, you deserve what you get.
Years ago Trump was asked how he might run for office, he stated in the interview that he would say whatever he needed to say to get elected then do what he wanted, (paraphrased). Trump is NO FRIEND of gun owners he was, once again, the lesser of the two evils presented. No politician should be trusted even in the outhouse with a muzzle on!
Yes the facts need to play out before a final determination is made.
He put himself in harms way by interfering with Federal Agents. Peacefully protesting from a distance is one thing, obstructing justice is completely different.
Obstruction of justice that involves contact with a Federal Officer is a felony with a possible 20 years in prison. The same offense while in possession of a legal OR illegal weapon adds 5 years more, no parole.
Resisting arrest, where the videos are clearly showing he did, is also a felony with an another possible 20 years in prison. If you are getting arrested, do not fight back…
A friend of mine that is Chief of Police in a large city once told me that you have a fraction of a second to decide to pull, or not to pull, the trigger.
I am not in a position to say if the agent’s response was justified. But put yourself in that position the next time someone startles you enough to make you jump. Is it friend or foe?
Sadly, if he was arrested about a week earlier, when he spit at an agent, kicked the taillight out and then resisted arrest, he might still be alive sitting in a jail.
Sure the 2A grants you the right to be armed at a protest, but just because you can do something, it doesn’t mean you should. As a permit holder, you’re obligated to be on your best behavior. Defensive, not offensive. I have zero sympathy for this jackass.
ICE are not local street cops. They are likely not well-trained in riot control, de-escalation, etc. They are there to nab illegals. The repulsive local leadership – Frey and Walz – in Commie-Sota not only refused local MPD assistance to ICE, to put themselves between local, well-funded and organized agitators, but there’s evidence that MPD may have been actually cooperating with these insurrectionists.
ICE (and by leftist inference, Noem/Trump) has blood on their hands? For ICE officers being put in a situation they never should have been put in? By local prog pols who side with traitorous indoctrinistas?
There’s enough blood to go around here….
I hope alot of you are seeing and recognizing the cultists among us true 2a folks in these comments. Some, i’m sure, are bots or foreign infiltrators trying to promote hate and discord among us (which they have done well along our political/social fears). There are people who either have a sadistic blood lust or idol worship the president. They don’t care about rights or humanity. We have to start calling these loons out and distance ourselves as a community. They don’t belong in our spaces. What happened to Pretti can happen to anyone in this country.
I agree with Noir basically although after watching several videos of the killing you wouldn’t want me on a jury if and when those agents go on trial. I call it murder and there is a good possibility they knew who he was.
I never got to know Alex but he was one of the ICU nurses at Minneapolis VA Hospital that helped give me a few more years with my loved ones. I spent 8 months there with Agent Orange throat cancer operation, chemo, and radiation. I’m back home in Thailand and glad.
I’m far left and in the states was most definitely a gun owner and user. Former LEO and big game guide northern New Mexico. Long time member VVAW. All gun owners and users aren’t right wing, I’m only one of many left wing.
Wayne Beverly
USMC SGT-Vietnam 1966/67
The longer this thing goes on, the more I think Alex was a paid protester, may be even some sort of leader. Second video show Alex dressed real nice for a protester when he kicked the tail light out. He was carrying a $2000.00 + dollar gun with the barrel swap and optics. All that on a nurses salary?
Jon Stuart, with the adoptive fake Scottish last name, is lying again in his video. Why are there so many fake Scotsman? That’s a different mystery for a different time.
The “right” is having a healthy debate on the two federal shootings in MN. Admit this FACT, Jonathan.
What did NOT happen, ever? The left never stepped up for an independent investigation when Ashli Babbit, an AF veteran was unarmed and shot by Lieutenant Michael Byrd. Instead, Byrd was awarded the Congressional Gold Medal. Since Babitt was unarmed, does Jon want all LEO’s to be disarmed?
Jon claims to love the 1st Amendment, what did he say about the reckless shooting of Ashli Babbit?
What did Jon say when Bryan Malinowski was shot in his home during the predawn raid w/o the required body cams?
What did Jon say when Craig Robertson was shot?
What did Jon say when WJC/Reno fed raid pointed MP5 at the head Elian Gonzales and his uncle so that the boy could be deported back to Cuba?
What did Jon say when 86 people were killed in a reckless raid at Waco? “God help us, we are the press” Jon, stood down.
What did Jon say when Lon Horiuchi shot and killed Vicki Weaver while she was holding a baby in her arms?
Since murder has no statute of limitations, will Jon and the left support independent investigations into all previous “internal” investigated killings by the feds?
Jon acts like he loves the 1st Amendment so much, even though he was silent for so many years. Now he should call for across the board investigations.
Most people on the right understand how laws cut both ways but only if the application of the laws are fair and balanced. That’s a big if since the left has become so unprincipled. Just look at the lefty dacian.
Kane, are you actually playing the “no true Scotsman” card? XD
Weak delfection.
The questions are valid and remain unanswered.
Deflection, damnit.
He was born Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz (and now goes by Stewart, not Stuart).
Pretti didn’t have ID or carry permit on him. In MN was he legally carrying concealed at that point? Isn’t it an additional charge to commit a crime (assaulting/interfering with federal officers doing their jobs) while armed, wether you have a carry permit or not?
so correct
I have always been low on the “trust Meter” with Doland Trump and have told my MAGA friends so. His fish and cut bait tactics bring out the real Trump, so watch your six. I have supported him in that he was our best, worst option. The Cream of the Crap. He is the best ‘turd” to float to the top of the swamp, and that is the saddest part of our current situation. In a 2nd Amendment matchup; he beats Mitt Romney and Biden. There were and are better people out there; they just never had a chance with all of the Turds floating into and plugging the opening. this is the moment I have feared for, the Constitution is not a bargaining chip, no part of it is. We cannot and should not allow these kinds of thing to go unanswered.
Trump was a Dem for a long time. Old habits are hard to break. But Colin Noir nailed it. I think that Trump, personally, doesn’t like guns, but he knows that 2A needs to be protected.
The problem is, Trump doesn’t know shit about guns OR the Second Amendment. I also think he knows little about the Constitution. For the most part I like what’s going on, but I can’t stand to hear him talk. I’m not sure who’s actually running a lot of this stuff. Of course for anyone who loves this nation and it’s laws, its free institutions and its unparalleled Constitution there is no other choice.
Trump doesn’t sit on his azz and wait for congress and senate to get stuff done. We don’t have years to try and fix this place. I don’t care what he says if he acts and gets it done. They say gun people don’t vote, you better get out and start voting or it will get real bad. A lot of states are already losing gun rights because they don’t vote and let the big city stupid democrats turn out and vote. Treat your voting like a good deal on ammo and get out and vote, don’t be lazy.
I suppose you idiots would prefer harris, or biden, or newsome? Why did you think that after 2 assasination attempts, Trump would be pro 2A? How stupid are you sheep?
Dude lay off the kool aid, you’re not really 2a, you’re a cult member who would let trump walk all over your rights. You’re a pathetic coward.
Since the assassination attempt in Butler was staged and the one in FL wasn’t even near Trump probably knows as much about the Bible as he understands the 2A.
But he’ll sell you a bible that was printed in China and bound in genuine imitation leather for only $59.99!!!!
22 years as an EMT with 20+ of that in the military. It takes longer to be a licensed barber than a cop. So my expectations for cops is set pretty low. They also get qualified immunity for their actions meaning they will not be held accountable. Since the constitution states equal treatment under the law, it should mean anytime a person feels threatened by a cop then we also should have the right to fire at will and not be punished. I am old and extremely tired of the double standard. If we continue to elect idiots, like all of them currently in office, then nothing will ever change and get us back to being a constitutional republic governed by we the people. Pretti was murdered end of story. I am not anti ICE or law enforcement as long as the operate within the constitutional limits that is supposed to govern all. He was subdued, disarmed and then shot. Of course just like law enforcement does when investigating themselves, the inept FBI will find no fault in the agents actions.
Pretti was an idiot and deserved to be shot, murder, what ever you want to call it. The heard has to be thinned.
That has to the most asinine comment I have read on this entire thread
You can’t even spell herd and whatever correctly, dipshit. Your comments have no validity.
I cant type, cant spell, but I am right, Bri anne. LMFAO Liberal.
You spelled libertarian wrong, tovarisch.
Subject: Your Pretti Article Leaves Out the Most Dangerous Part
Editor,
I read your article on the Alex Pretti shooting, and honestly, what bothers me most isn’t what you said — it’s what you chose not to say.
You never clearly say that Alex Pretti was shot and killed. You talk around it. You say “the shooting,” “motionless on the ground,” and move straight into political commentary. That alone softens what actually happened.
But the bigger problem is this: your article focuses heavily on what President Trump said afterward, while completely ignoring what federal officials said immediately after the shooting, when it mattered most.
Within moments of Pretti being killed, Kristi Noem and ICE leadership in Minneapolis publicly claimed he was brandishing a weapon, threatening law enforcement, and intended to attack officers. They emphasized that he had “two magazines,” with one official even calling them “high-capacity magazines.” That narrative was pushed instantly — before investigations, before facts, before video review.
And your article doesn’t mention that at all.
That should alarm every gun owner in this country.
Two magazines is not suspicious. It’s standard. It’s taught in concealed carry and defensive handgun classes everywhere. Having a backup magazine is normal and responsible. Meanwhile, the same federal agents involved were reportedly carrying multiple pistol magazines, rifle magazines, and long guns — enough ammunition to outfit a small platoon — yet somehow that’s not considered threatening.
The double standard is obvious.
What’s even more troubling is that this shooting didn’t happen in a vacuum. Just days earlier, ICE agents in Minneapolis had already been involved in other controversial use-of-force incidents, including fatal shootings that were still under investigation. That context matters. It explains why people feel unsafe. It explains why someone might choose to be armed. And it explains why instantly labeling a gun owner as a violent threat is so dangerous.
Instead of confronting that reality, your article frames Pretti’s decision to be armed as “probably not smart,” without addressing the environment that made that decision rational to many people. That framing protects comfort rather than truth.
The real takeaway gun owners should be hearing right now isn’t about optics or political loyalty. It’s this: if you are armed, the government can — and will — lie about you instantly if something goes wrong. You can be disarmed, restrained, and still posthumously portrayed as a violent threat. And once that narrative is out, the damage is done.
That’s not a fringe concern. That’s a direct threat to lawful carry.
A gun-rights publication should be warning people about that reality, not helping to sanitize it by leaving out critical facts and context. Silence in situations like this doesn’t stay neutral — it sides with power.
Gun owners don’t need reassurance. We need honesty. We need accountability. And we need media that isn’t afraid to say plainly when the government crosses a line.
Right now, your article avoids that moment — and that’s deeply disappointing.
A reasoned analysis. Rump a 2A supporter? Who took away your right to have a bump stock?
Get your TDS treated, please. TIA.
This ones cult fever is deep
Take you’re TDS meds and you’ll feel better. BTW – it really is heart warming to know the President of The United States, Donald John Trump, lives so prominently in YOUR head. 🫡😭
Bump stocks are a joke.
Trump is no different than any other politician. He know nothing about guns. He will try and protect our 2nd amendment rights though. That idiot Alex deserved to die. You don’t go fight the police with a gun tucked in your waist and you don’t carry without your permit, period.
100% correct. I’m all for carrying, but if you’re carrying into this situation that involves federal law enforcement, to agitate and literally destroy the tail light on a federal vehicle, knowing you set out fall of this, to interfere w federal law enforcement and you’re carrying I firearm? That’s downright f**king stupid. Carrying also means having damn common sense and he had absolutely zero here.
Goofy
Congrats for calling out this nonsense. You’re either reasonable and have firm beliefs or you try to twist everything to fit an agenda, even if it contradicts your prior statements.
Bar is pretty low, but you managed to clear it.
I’ve watched several of the videos and I agree that he was down on the ground and disarmed. I also am pretty sure that right before shots are fired, someone yelled GUN!! I’m not totally sure about that because my hearing isn’t what it used to be. But I don’t want to try to second guess a BUNCH of law enforcement officers who are and have been working in a very hostile environment. Mistakes were made on both sides and the important thing is to figure out what mistakes were made and prevent them from happening again in the future.
You absolutely should be second guessing every authority figure. It is your duty to do so as a citizen of this country.
Like I said, I’m not certain that after the man was down and disarmed, and immediately before shots were fired that I heard someone yell GUN. I’m giving the benefit of doubt because right now the people working with and for ICE are doing a very stressful job that they wouldn’t have to be doing IF the politicians of Minnesota would do their job like the politicians of ALL OTHER 49 STATES ARE DOING. These men and women are working in a hostile environment with people spitting on them, shouting obscenities at them, constantly blowing whistles and vehicle horns at them. The men and women of ICE are doing this job because it’s something they believe needs to be done because people like me can’t or won’t do that job and millions of foreigners are dragging OUR COUNTRY down to the level of the $hithole they came from instead of integrating and becoming part of America.
As a truck driver of 35 years, I’ve driven over 4 million miles with only one non-preventable accident, and now for insurance reasons (IE lawsuits with massive payoffs) the company I’m leased to has forced me to put up with a dash cam recording EVERYTHING I do and I’m constantly dealing with phone calls from the company, because “the algorithm” deems I didn’t do the right thing whenever someone cuts in front of me, and I have to explain my actions to the safety Nazis at the company I’m leased to.
So I understand what it’s like having to do your job in a “hostile environment” where one mistake and/or a few seconds lapse of concentration can kill a lot of people. Instead of wrapping myself in a flag and jumping to conclusions, I’ll wait until the investigation is concluded before making any judgement on holding ANYONE accountable for their actions UNDER STRESS.
You Sir are free to do whatever you like as long as it doesn’t get up in my face.
One of the Officers was shouting: Where’s the gun, where’s the gun.
Like I said, I couldn’t make out what was said other than the word gun. If that’s what was said it most likely would not help defuse the situation. Remember that the last known and recorded interaction officers had with this guy, he was again acting irrational, spitting at officers and he chased a vehicle that was leaving down the street and kicked and broke a taillight on the vehicle. So there is more to this than we currently know.
Regardless until an investigation is concluded I am going to hold judgement.
The liberal democrats in this country, aligned with the other agents of chaos (China, Soros, Russia, Mainstream Media, Higher Education, and all other Anti-American groups), stick together with whatever narrative they’ve chosen.
They are together, like a monolith, in whatever their collective is espousing that day. They push one main narrative, and then all get behind it, until that narrative loses effectiveness. Then they move on to the next main narrative.
I don’t have a penchant for redundancy, like a lot of you seem to, but this is so damn obvious. They pick the main narrative — like Trump-Russia collusion, January 6th, violation of the emoluments clause, racism, homophobia, etc., etc. etc. etc. etc. And they push it. The more traction that they get, the harder they push it.
And that’s what they’re doing here, with the anti-ice nonsense. Pushing the narrative hard, getting some traction, pushing it some more. In the process, hoping to divide the opposition (conservatives, Republicans, smart independents) to create fractures. They’ll push the narrative as long as it’s effective, and they’ll find/create other narratives and push them.
It’s unfortunate that you guys (the genuine people here, not the liberal wieners and bots), don’t see this with clarity. Why can’t you see the trends? Why isn’t it obvious to you? The liberal democrats have found a winning narrative with some of you guys, and the liberals are using it for political control.
The anti-ice riots are happening because the liberal politicians in Minnesota have encouraged and enabled them. Just like the George Floyd riots, they are trying to use these riots as a political tool. And it’s working with some of you guys.
If you’re an illegal alien, go home. If you’re interfering with the lawful actions of a police officer, you should go to jail.
Sometimes, when you put yourself in dangerous situations, and when you’re reckless in your actions, bad things happen. If you attend a riot, and participate in a riot, you may get hurt. If you’re carrying a gun, and you wrestle with a cop, you might get killed. If you try to run down a cop with your car, you might get killed.
logic flow: actions = consequences.
Maybe some you so-called conservatives should lighten up, and stop pontificating so vociferously against President Trump and his cabinet every time you sniff a little chink in their armor — historically, they tend to work things out for the best, anyway.
Maybe some of you gun guys should have voted for Harris. Tampon Tim Walz — the Minnesota governor that’s encouraged these ice riots and did the same thing during the Floyd riots, would have been the vice president. Imagine the whining and complaining that you could have done about gun rights then.
Go to ALPHANEWS.ORG. Watch ‘The Fall of Minneaplolis’, and check out the other news covered there. Tell your friends, if you have any.
The best selling point for liberals is trumps own words. You can be 2a, conservative but not be a part of the cult. You sound ; Ike if trump demanded tou forfeit your 2A rights you would capitu;late.
Great comment! You hit the nail on the head. So many two-faced people, supposedly in our own community, will seize on one single incident, and in effect, join the marxist crowd that is well on its way to destroying this nation. Everyone should let the investigation proceed without immediately condemning the officer. They have undertaken the outright toughest law enforcement job that perhaps has ever existed in our nation’s history… the removal of 20 million+ invaders let in by the same communist idiots that are destroying Minnesota. The environment in which they are having to do this job is unimaginable with all the constant interruptions, noise, threats, and physical attacks. You can’t judge an officer so quickly without first trying to understand the totality of the circumstances surrounding any use of force action. All of this was preventable and unnecessary, but it’s exactly what the left wants… another Saint George.
One of Donald J Trump’s biggest problems is that he can’t keep his effing mouth shut and hast to give knee-jerk responses to every communist progressive criminal media moron and spew crap that has no business being said by the President of the United States who is supposed to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and all of its amendments all of them not just the ones with which they’re comfortable!
THIS entirely!
The spoken word “gun” should not authorize any LEO or private citizen to immediately start shooting. It should put LE on alert there is a potential that could be a dangerous situation breaking out near them. Start looking around and maybe put your hand on your weapon, maybe draw as you assess. But to start shooting because someone yells “gun”? That’s why we have concealed carry. If a gun comes out and is in a hand and pointing at someone or you, that changes things. But the guy on the ground was stripped of his gun. Both of his hands were on the ground. No immediate threat with a deadly weapon. Maybe some LEOs need to take DEFENSIVE shooting classes? DEFENSIVE. This was not a defensive shoot with the guy on the ground pointing anything at anybody. Yes, situations can change in a split second but those shooting had guns in their hands and had the split second on their side. Was he a threat when they shot? They assess/protect/arrest/detain for the issue to be determined in court. Not shot un-needlessly. I am a concealed carrier for 40 years. I take classes. I read. If you don’t see an imminent threat-don’t shoot. That’s the law-for everybody.
I totally believe in the Constitution. The Bill of Rights does NOT give us any rights.. it’s only purpose is to prevent the governent from making laws to restrict our inherent rights…All laws that violate our rights are unconstitutional. gun laws,red flag laws,stop and frisk laws, etc.
Roger that!
The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to expressly express, that these are God given “rights” we already have, not ones being given to us!
Thank You Very Much!
Since they are repealable, they are not God given rights. Unless you think that God’s rights can be taken away. Our Founding Fathers would not have made them amendments if a later Congress could take them away. They are actually from the English Constitution and are given by the government to us. Without a stable government, these rights would just be words on a piece of paper.
Not sure if you’ve noticed, but the left have gotten the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments, incorporated into the 14th Amendment, for the purpose of opening up the Bill of Rights to repeal! One leftist said now the BoR is no different than any other amendments.
Actually nothing in the Bill of Rights can’t be appealed. If our founding fathers thought that they were God given or exempt from appeal, then they would not have made them amendments. But because they are amendments, they can be repealed.
The Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution to be an editable document from day one. Article 5 defines the amendment process and, per Article 5, the only part of the Constitution that is currently exempt from amendment is Article 1, Section 3, Clause 1 which guarantees each state’s representation in the Senate. Every other part of the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights and Article 5 itself, can be legally amended.
Great article. The thing is that Trump and his cabinet aren’t necessarily anti gun. Nor are they pro gun. They have become politicians. So instead of pushing their values, they are increasingly populist. They support what the people want at this moment in time. People seem to want immigrants out. So going after the criminals is what they are trying to do. But that may trample on rights. Here we see the cabinet seemingly take an anti gun stance. But they are seeing it as trying to placate the people’s desire to get rid of criminals. We saw a similar situation in his first term. A shooter used a bump stock. So they banned them. They didn’t see themselves as anti-gun, they saw themselves as pro-safety. I think they suffer from lack of situational awareness and unintended consequences. Its almost like they are blind to how others see their actions.
I’m disturbed by 2 agents shooting Alex Pretti 6 more times after he was disarmed, already shot 4 times and lying in the street. That’s simply an execution. Another thing that disturbs me it is some of the readers here are OK with that, primarily because he wasn’t maga. They didn’t check if he had a permit for the 9mm or carrying the required licenses and what not, nor if he was carrying a maga card. You know the ones, where trump is wearing a space suit or a cowboy riding a horsey. They just shot him dead. And yet another things that disturbs me is all the foe “pro-2A” crowd, including trump and noem, think 2A righs are arbitrary. They only apply when they benefit their agenda. I’ve said it before (and was labeled a CNN talking point), trump is no real friend of 2A. There’s two clips above where he wants to take guns away and now this shooting is another. He supports 2A when he wants your support. Just remember fools, no dictator wanna-be wants the public to have a bunch of guns. Granted, they’ll take away guns from non-maga first but don’t be fools. They’re coming for ALL guns. What’s sad is, you’ll still be a trump supporter, even after, his gestapo bust down your door and take all your guns. One last thing, I have a lot of guns also, but I’m not foolish enough to think trump is pro-2A. He lies all the time, what makes you think he’s not lying about 2A rights.
They can’t understand you, you make too much sense.
Its called a split second decision with a guy and a gun. You want to go home to your wife and kids.
Except he was already disarmed when he was shot and there were at least two officers holding him down. So its either murder or voluntary manslaughter.
Its always easier to watch the replay and make a decision. The ref has to make a decision on the play when it happens. That officer cant sit back and do an instant replay before someone might be shot and killed. Alex was killed because he was stupid and made many bad decisions.
Neither Trump nor Pam Bondi are pro-2A.
Well said. Thank you.
You have misrepresented the quote of President Trump when he said, “You know, you can’t have guns. You can’t walk in with guns. You just can’t.” You write then, That’s not just sloppy. That’s wrong. Flatly wrong. Unfortunately for you, or the bot that wrote this soulless piece, this representation of the Trump quote is “sloppy” and “wrong”. On it’s face. By the evidence. From the video of him in the meeting and in context.
Maybe this pays you so poorly do do this type of work that it’s just not worth your time to do the due diligence necessary to get the story right. Or maybe it’s just another cheap and predictable hit piece commissioned by evil and born of TDS.?
President Trump was referring to any person who would walk into an area of police activity carrying a concealed weapon and actively interfere in an arrest being lawfully executed. You will recall the quote, “You know, you can’t have guns. You can’t walk in with guns. You just can’t.”
I think you should write a retraction, apology, addendum or whatever you literary types call it when you say,
“My mistake, I am sorry to have slighted an innocent man with sloppy slander, that was wrong, flatly wrong”.
Fuckin’ A, Vince. You sure do love Trump. You so mad!
you think this publication you’re reading is the only one shitting on Trump and his buddies over this? The ENTIRE 2A community is pretty much in agreement that this is destructive language for the future of the 2A and these kinds of statements have serious ramifications in elections and therefore in the long term health of the 2A. Open your eyes, take your blinders off, and shit on Trump when he says stupid things. He isn’t infallible and the bootlicking has gotten out of control.
This is EXACTLY what the lawless, leftist, moronic, assholes hope and pray for every damn day… another martyr the likes of Saint George to further their communist ideology. If the lawless, bastard politicians had not created this environment, no one would have been killed. They not only prohibit any cooperation between local law enforcement and Federal, they propose using them and the National Guard to impede Federal LEOs. They are absolutely begging for a shooting war to obtain their “revolution”. That’s what it’s all about.
Did he have a right to bear arms? Absolutely! Did he have a right to actively impede legal law enforcement? Hell no! He kept playing stupid games in a highly charged environment that forces officers to fear for their lives round the clock, just for doing their job. He ultimately won a stupid prize. What do you think would have happened to him under the Biden Administration if the roles were reversed, and he was assaulting illegal aliens as they crossed the border? Wake up, people! Don’t lose sight of the entire forest over one tree.
Typical boot licking authoritarian response. Not a single original thought in your head. Just parroting all of the fox news sound bites you ritually consume.
Great comment from a communist ass-licker.
Still parroting your “catch phrases”. I don’t favor any “ism’s”, be it communism, capitalism, socialism, etc nor do I identify with either republicans or democrats. I think for myself and do not conform to any labels. But by all means continue with the faux newz diatribes.
Fake? Faux? That would be someone too disingenuous to even use their own name, “DarkTurd”.
You and others like you are a big part of the problem. At least the left believe in what they are doing, what they think, Independents, libertarians (especially Big L), middle of the road miscreants are going to get us into a civil war with their idiocy!
How petty, to resort to personal insults, thus exposing that you have no logical response and hold no validity in your own arguments. I shall waste no more time with you.
Aww… Did you get your widdle feelin’s hurt? Go put your cosplay outfit back on, and regain some self esteem.
Dude you goody AF. Get educated
Sheesh! Learn how to spell and write, already!
Trump has never truly been pro 2A. Sure, he’ll throw gun owners a bone when it’s politically convenient, but he’s also quick to tread on the Second Amendment when it’s politically convenient for him to do so.
Putting your trust in any politician, especially one as mercurial as Trump, is a fool’s errand.
Some of the comments below are so disheartening. Alex Pretti may not have had the same beliefs as you but he shared your right to bear arms. If you see the videos and think he did something wrong and deserved to be shot then you are a hypocrite and blind follower of your political party. What i saw was a man who was exercising his rights to protest. A veteran. A man who watched a women be violently pushed to the ground by a masked paramilitary organization. He rushed to protect her. He shielded her with his body. Something every young man should have been taught was right as a child. He and she were then sprayed with chemical irritant. He was then thrown to the ground and covered by men with little to no training in de escalation. These ICE agents saw a gun and panicked because they are undertrained. Alex Pretti was then executed from behind. If you dont think the men who fired those shots deserve to be charged and prosecuted, you are a fool. Alex Pretti was more of a man than many, and especially those federal agents.
Guess you didn’t see the videos of him assaulting officers, and destroying government property… or maybe you just don’t WANT to see them. I was a Federal LEO, and I can assure that this asshole Pretti wouldn’t have been a pimple on my ass, or any of the other agents I worked with. So for you to bloviate over how much of a “man” he was, just demonstrates how illiterate you are on the subject of manhood.
I dont believe for a second you were a LEO but someone that loves to tell stories about how you would have been a Delta Force but would have punched the DS in the face. Cause you’re just a small petty imfeminite man overcompensating because your wife divorced you because you couldnt satisfy her with your small manhood.
Don’t really give a shit what you believe. I know what I am, and what I have done. It’s chicken-shit, behind the keyboard, pussies like you that give this platform a bad name.
If you were an 1811 most likely you were a dumbshit, and an overpaid one at that. Proof of being a dumbshit is that you’re ignoring the fact he wasn’t assaulting officers when shot, he was trying to protect an unarmed woman the officers themselves assaulted, and then once he was on the ground and disarmed, they murdered him. Wonder how many crimes you had in your closet, if in fact you were an 1811.
Protesting and kicking a government vehicle is not justification for being murdered. They panicked. Someone yelled gun and they shot him. That the gun was holstered and it was taken away before they shot will be their undoing.
This is nothing but propaganda! The gun was taken loose during the scrum, but it didn’t work itself out of the scrum right away. One of the officers was shouting: where’s the gun, where’s the gun. There was no murder!
He was doing way more than protesting.90% of them are rioting not protesting. I believe due to the fight and biting an officer’s nearly off warranted him being shot, just not more than once probably.
Pretti was not legally carrying. Minnesota law requires you to have your state identification and the permit with you when you carry. Pretti had and neither with him.
What you described is a Petty Misdemeanor in MN subject to a $25 fine. It doesn’t dispose of a persons 2nd Amendment rights. Pretti was still legally carrying. And furthermore, when the agents shot Pretti, they had no idea whether he was permitted or not. In fact, he wasn’t even armed when they shot him.
Words matter. The article said he was legal to carry. Without the documents, he was not legal. I’m not suggesting he should have been shot for this. Legal to carry or not, if you have a weapon, or thought to have a weapon and you fight with law enforcement, expect to get shot.
He acquired and earned all the necessary documents to carry. He had his ID on him which would confirm his conceal carry status. Should the capital police have shot the Jan 6 rioters? You are selective in your application of unaliving citizens
A January 6 protester was shot by the capital police and she was unarmed. While my memory may not be accurate but I believe that in some local jurisdictions it is illegal to bring weapons to a protest rally. My thoughts are while Pretti was within his rights to be carrying it was not a smart move. What did he think he would accomplish as one person confronting 100s LE armed with multiple weapons. Peaceful protests don’t involve obstructing LE in the performance of their duty or obstructing the rights of others by blocking streets or harassing them at church, work or restaurants. I think the first shot triggered the other shots in the confusion. Why was it fired? Why did the capital policeman fire on the unarmed woman who the video shows armed officers behind her who could have stopped her?
It’s clear you didn’t read what I wrote. I never said anything about J6, and in any case it isn’t relevant. He did not have any ID w/him. He engaged in criminal behavior while armed. 11 days prior he begged ICE to shoot him. He exercised supremely bad judgement, and paid for his stupidly. I don’t wish anyone to get shot, but I’ll lose no sleep over this one.
Sometimes legal and smart are not used in the same sentence. Petti was a stupid, angry, dead fool. The world is a better place.
Engaging in a physical confrontation with federal law enforcement agents performing their duties is just plain stupid. Doing while armed …well you are digging your own grave.
Yup.
Nope
Seems like someone yelled gun after it was taken away by border control. That was the mistake. You yell gun when it is spotted in the hand of the criminal. No-one should be punished here, Pretti was an insane rioter, proven on film, and the border patrol officers who fired were working off their training.
Pretti made a lethal mistake by Interfering with law enforcement. ICE agents are under constant threat while on and off the job. Did they overreact? Yes and justifiably so. Pretti was a mindless cog in the current left wing monstrosity of violence and political chaos. Trump statements are typical of his diplomatic handling of issues. He needs to shut the fuck up sometimes. Should left wing democrats who support globalism and the end of American sovereignty be allowed the right of the 2nd amendment? No. We are in a soft kill civil war and sitting on the fence will get us into even more trouble. If you are a registered democrat you should not be allowed a stimulus check nor the right to own a gun. Not a popular opinion but it’s my 1st amendment right- and yes the left can have the right to speak their opinions.
This is absolutely unhinged thinking.
At least lm thinking. Vote democrat next election it’s the party for you.
The democommunist party is NOT for anyone who loves this nation, its founding generation, it’s free institutions and it’s unparalleled Constitution.
Let me say right off, I do not agree with Alex Pretti’s politics one bit. I do agree he had every right to carry a weapon in this circumstance. The mere fact that he was an armed leftist is not of itself a crime or a threat. How many of us have carried a weapon, along with multiple mags and/or a back-up weapon of some sort into an environment with no intention of just opening fire? I have never entered a circumstance with that intent, prepared, if necessary, but by no means looking for someone to shoot! I DO NOT think the shooting was clean or justified! He was disarmed and disabled. He was secured by enough agents to control the situation. I also feel the previous run-in now being posted, looks worse for the agents involved than it did for Pretti. “We missed the opportunity to put him away last time, but not this time” is how it looks to me. I’m 75 years old and have seen a thing or two and try to call balls and strikes as I have seen them. One call I can make, and I doubt if many will disagree with me, there are bad law enforcement individuals out there. There are those who simply enjoy the power the badge gives them. I support law enforcement, but I’m not stupid enough to believe they are all good guys/gals. I totally support President Trump, but he made a terribly erroneous statement regarding Pretti’s carrying of a handgun. It is not a bad look to be armed.
Was Pretti “carrying lawfully” under state law as the author states? I’ve read he was required to possess both government ID as well as his carry permit, and he had neither.
Even if he was carrying legally, he was stupid to carry while engaging, menacingly, Federal Agents in the process of doing their legal duty. Especially given the tense environment caused by the rioters.
attacking law enforcement while having a gun on you, you have committed the act of felony assault and petti should have been arrested for felony assault when he assaulted ICE the weeks before, it would have saved his life from his stupidity. he could be sleeping in a Federal Prison, rather his stupidity put him back on the streets. there are people that are just stupid that are fighting to keep rapist, murderers, pedophiles, illegal border insurgents on the streets of America and the ones pushing for the most are blue state democrats that are Godless, using stolen money from American taxpayers, weaponizing illegal border insurgents, democrats are liars, hate Americans, supports illegal border insurgents, trans gender groomers, pedophiles, antifa, drug cartels, human trafficking, murderers, rapists, money launderers, and communists to destroy America, therefore voting for any democrat for any office is a vote to destroy America. period!
Except he didn’t attack. He was attacked. In a way he was practicing nonviolent behavior. He placed his body between ICE and the woman who was pushed down. Yes he kicked a car previously, but he did not attack the officers either time.
You kick and break my tail light. I will smash you into the ground. You try to fight me armed, I will back up and drop as many rounds as I need to until you stop moving.
what attack? not one angle of any video showed Pretti doing anything that should have been met with such violent force.
Oh yeah, he was fighting them like hell, nearly bit off one of the officer’s fingers.
*nearly bit one of the officer’s fingers off.
The first letter of the first word in a sentence is capitalized just for starters.
Now let me rip your ignorance apart on just about everything you ranted and screamed from the rooftops.
quote————attacking law enforcement while having a gun on you, you have committed the act of felony assault———-quote
Are you blind or maybe you never watched all of the video’s that clearly show Pretti never attacked anyone. The only person he even touched was the woman who was brutally assaulted by Ice Jackbooted Thugs.
Try again Gracey you failed big time.
quote—————-there are people that are just stupid that are fighting to keep rapist, murderers, pedophiles, illegal border insurgents on the streets of America and the ones pushing for the most are blue state democrats that are Godless, using stolen money from American taxpayers, weaponizing illegal border insurgents, democrats are liars, hate Americans, supports illegal border insurgents, trans gender groomers, pedophiles, antifa, drug cartels, human trafficking, murderers, rapists, money launderers, and communists to destroy America, therefore voting for any democrat for any office is a vote to destroy America. period!————quote
Minnesota was not about capturing criminals. It was political retribution for Minnesota voting Blue. Obama kicked out more illegals than Trump has even dreamed about doing and he did it by quiet targeted attacks backed up with legal warrants for arrests of real criminals, not “legal Immigrants” and U.S. citizens. Obama did not use untrained, out of control murderous Thugs in full battle gear.
quote—————–therefore voting for any democrat for any office is a vote to destroy America. period!————quote————–
Hardly because it is the Republicans who just screwed you out of the Obama Care Extensions which raised your Healthcare costs and many people will now be dying because they can no longer afford their medications that keep them alive.
It is the Republican Herr Drumpf (The Donald) who claims you now no longer have any 2A rights and this morning newscasters (ala Putin’s Russia) now do not have the right to the 1st Amendment and can no longer report on happening news if Herr Drumpf does not like what they are reporting on.
ICE thugs were arresting American Citizens and “legal” immigrants who had and are complying with all immigration laws. No one, not an Americna citizen nor a “Legal” Immigrant has to show a Nazi ICE thug “your papers” when you are going about your everyday business. We are not Nazi Germany although Herr Drumpf (the Donald) is hell bent on making American into a Nazi State.
And your vicious attacks on Transgenders is right out of Nazi Germany, the Nazi’s persecuted and murderd Transgenders. You seem to indicate you wish to do the same. They are American citizens with the “full rights” of all Americans.
The word “Antifa” was a word U.S. G.I.”s used to describe “themselves” during WWII. The word “Antifa” meant they were fighting Hitler’s Nazi’s who believed much of what you also believe. Your posts prove it beyond all doubt. And I might add there is “no” organization in the U.S. calling themselves “Antifa” ,that is a boogey man word made up and used by the ignorant Far Right.
When Right Wing Fanatic Joe Rogan panics and says that “Papers Please” is a rape of the Constitution you know the situation is already way out of hand with Herr Drumpf’s Jackbooted Untrained ICE Stormtroopers.
As Bill Maher said this week “In the upcoming Midterm elections the Republican vote will not be worth “dog shit”.
This dacian is the SN that hates WHITE people and wants the replacement agenda to cause influence of Whites in the US disappear even though White people established this, the greatest Constitutional Republican in the history of mankind.
This is the SN that is just fine with the shooting of Ashli Babbit as she was no threat to anyone while climbing through a broken window.
This is dacian who pretends to have consistent values.
Your reading comprehension is below that of the 5th grade level. Reminding people of the discrimination against non-whites in the U.S. is Historical fact. Too bad you flunked all your History classes. Next you will be giving us Ron De-Insane-ous bold face lies that “Slavery was beneficial to the victims” and it’s a good idea to erase all that from the History Books.
A non sequitur!
Perhaps ol’ “Blue Dog” changed his name to “dacian”?
I am deeply offended that you’d suggest that this streetwalking gypsy tramp and I could be the same person.
Dacians, real Dacians, sacked Rome. This dacian couldn’t sack groceries. Probably some big city barista who is a master sniper on call of duty.
*off
Maher has been known to be wrong, alot! Hard to believe the American people have kept themselves so ignorant that they don’t know what’s going down. All of this chaos is not accidental, it’s a strategy to, as Barack Obama said, destroy this nation. When Obama was in the communist club at Occidental College in 1980 he told fellow comrade, John Drew, that the United States had to be destroyed in a violent revolution. Drew said that Obama is a Marxist Revolutionary. Obama is the head of the snake and is running this shite show today.
You are correcting someone else’s grammar?
That’s a joke.
2 key points here that are getting omitted, pretti was there to protect protestors and create a self defense situation with ice. the other is ice agents are live targets and considered fair game to the left. it’s called neutralize the threat and move onto the next threat, if you don’t more people could die!