The CCP M2 from Walther. (Photo: Walther Arms)
Behold! The “ultimate concealed carry pistol,” the CCP M2 from Walther.
Is it really the ultimate discreet carry gun? We’ll have to get one in for review before can answer that but needless to say, we are intrigued.
Between the tool-less takedown feature and the soft-coil recoil reduction system it may prove to be a real player in the market. SIG’s killing it right now with the P365, so it’ll be interesting to see how this thin nine stacks up.
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“We knew we had a great pistol in the CCP, but listening to our consumers drove us to upgrade certain features,” said Bret Vorhees, Director of Product Development for Walther Arms, Inc., in a press release.
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“The new tool-less takedown, on top of the grip that seems to fit every hand, and the reduced recoil benefits of the soft-coil system, makes this pistol the perfect option for any shooter,” he added.
The new CCP M2 should be at your local gun store. MSRP for the CCP M2 is $469. I’m already seeing them listed on GunsAmerica for under $400!
Here is a more truthful run down comparing the pps to the ccp. The CCP is fatter and less concealable and it has a long gritty double action style pull. Lets face facts trying to do any precision shooting with this kind of trigger is very problematic for most people. I also have never had any luck with any gas operated pistol I have ever had the displeasure of testing. Most are ammo sensitive and do not work with all brands of ammo because they system requires the right burning rate of powder to work safely and reliably and most gas systems heat up rapidly often making the pistol too hot to handle or reholster and the gas systems get dirty very quickly, not an operating mechanism that leaves one feeling very secure about using when the last thing you want is a jam in a life threatening situation I will pass on this one. .
i wonder if the better goal is for walther to convince wheelgunners like me to switch from a 38 snubbie to a semiauto for my ccw? with speedloaders i can run a snubbie quite fast and worriless, and even shoot thru a coat pocket if need be. arguing between semiauto pistols sig and a walther is like arguing between apples and oranges. now, if you can persuade a revolver guy to switch to this walther or another semiauto pistol, then you have really made your case.
EVERYONE IS COPYING “GLOCK”,, JUST LIKE THE COLT PEACEMAKER, BACK IN THE DAY…,, I PREFER TO STAY WITH THE ORIGINALS IN BOTH CASES..!!!!,, WHY BUY A COPY CAT.??,, GET THE REAL DEAL AND BE DONE WITH IT..
I’m a Sig and S&W guy. I’ve stayed away from Walther because of their break-down process for some reason but might learn to like it. The trigger may be the best selling point. My warm weather EDC is a Sig P938. Cold weather I carry M&P 2.0 9mm compact. Sometimes I can hide my fat Beretta PX4 under a jacket. This Walther will fit someone’s needs perfectly. That’s the same reason why we have Fords and Chevrolets.
TY just got a S&w M2.0 40cal shield…..I Love it
Wil Ferch, good points and I agree. I would like to add one additional point to making an ideal, compact concealed carry. Do away with the rail. Hone it down, smooth it out, dont want anything that snags or gives a bigger signature. If i have a pistol wih a rail, itnow gets a light/laser and a holster. If i want a CCW, carried IWB. I dont want a rail.
As far as caliber goes, Rane nailed it, A .40 135g jhp meets .357 mag ballistics, hence why i carry the shield with he same load at 7+1 rds of 135g jhp
As for an affordable 9mm, tough to beat the ruger LC9. Nothing fancy, sights are lacking but for abudget minded person, who doesnt want to wear jeans and a 5-11 vest in the summer to conceal a full-size 1911, it is a good choice along with kahr and smith shield.
Keeping in mind my three favorite handgun manufacturers are Sig, HK, and Walther, I’ll try to keep my opinions as non bias as possible. I have not fired the P365 nor the CCP, but I’ve handled and dry fired both. Here’s my take on the CCP. It’s a great gun for weaker people, and it’s apparently very accurate thanks to its fixed barrel. My biggest gripe is the mag capacity. My PPS holds the same amount of rounds and it’s 1” thick. It seems that’s one of Walthers blind spots. Across the board their handguns hold less rounds than other similarly sized guns. But Walther is still my favorite CCW due to their ergonomics, triggers, and accuracy. The Sig seemed a bit high with the bore axis, but all of my Sigs look that way and still shoot just fine. The Sigs trigger is not as good as Walthers but much better than others in their class. I still carry my PPS .40 because Sig doesn’t make the P365 in .40… yet. Not to get to far off topic, but to all you .40 haters the reason I carry .40 is because I handload and have rounds that produce over 600 lbft of energy from a 3” barrel. That’s 135 gr bullet at 1450 fps. It’s a safe published load from hodgdon. Longshot is an amazing powder. 9 and 45 can’t do that…. I’ve tried. I think it’s great that walther is listening to their customers, but missed the mark of this gun. Instead they should have released the PPS M3 with a mag capacity of 10+1. That would really shake up the CCW market.
I second Longshot and the .40. Amazing powder in .40 and great in the 10mm as well. Turns the .40 into 10mm lite.
https://rugerforum.net/reloading/108676-longshot-40-s-w.html
My wife had one of the original CCPs. She found it comfortable and shot it well.
We had to augment the dots on the sights by adding white nail polish to each “too small” dot.
The take down and reassembly were miserable processes.
It has been replaced with a Sig Sauer P365. Since my wife is not recoil sensitive at all, the 365 is superior in all ways.
Even if Walther’s “tool-less” take down corrects the original CCPs problem, the 365’s sights, grip ergonomics and capacity are all superior.
Like the excellent S&W Shield…… too tall. For a concealed carry gun the overall height is usually the toughest dimension to deal with. Kahr CM9 is proper 4″….. Glock 43 is 4.2″…..Ruger EC9S/LC9S a smidge taller yet similar…..yet S&W is 4.6″….and this one over 5.1″ Fail. Same with width at 1.1.8″….all others at 1″ or less. My Star PD ( came out in the mid 70’s) is a .45 and is 4.8″ tall and less width and 24 oz empty. Not much new under the sun.
I bought a pair of PPS 9mm. The rear sight was out of alignment for both guns. I sent the slides back to Walther for alignment they were returned right away without a single adjustment. With this kind of service I want my money back and I will purchase hand guns from a reputable manufacturer.
8 + 1 Walther, 10 + 1 Sig. Hmmm, so what’s the benefit over the P 365? No standard night sites! Sorry Walther, you have to one up the new Sig, not show us everyone else is still behind the curve. Give us something, more rounds, thinner profile, better grip, something to earn our business.
Perhaps the difference is quality control and firing pins not breaking…might have something to do with it?