(Editor’s note: This article is a submission from freelance writer Max Slowik)
The Supreme Court today refused to grant an appeal challenging an Illinois city’s gun ban that prohibits the sale, purchase and even possession of “assault weapons” as defined by local Highland Park law.
Banned firearms include many popular guns including AR-15s, AR-10s and AK-pattern rifles by name. It also bans “large-capacity” magazines or any magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
The Supreme Court has not shown interest in Second Amendment cases following Heller and McDonald cases, the high water mark for establishing gun rights in the U.S. today. Together they hold that gun ownership is a privately-held right belonging to individuals and that self-defense is a primary function of the Second Amendment, and also that any law that bans an entire class of firearms, particularly those in common use, is unconstitutional.
The NSSF estimates that there are as many as 5 million ARs in the U.S. alone, not counting other guns included in the ban, a point that the lower court did not dispute. The Supreme Court did not provide any explanation for why the case was rejected.
“It did not seem to be a response to recent mass shootings,” said Lyle Denniston, writing for the SCOTUS Blog, “The Court has been studying the case since early October; it was due to be considered at seven consecutive private Conferences of the Justices.”
The simplest explanation, particularly for the gun rights community, is that the Court’s majority just doesn’t want to test gun bans, turning a Constitutional blind eye to the issue. Justice Clarence called it an act of “noncompliance.”
Thomas, joined by Justice Antonin Scalia, wrote a 6-page dissent (.pdf) detailing the arguments for overturning the City of Highland Park’s “assault weapons” ban, arguing that the ban is in direct violation of earlier Supreme Court decisions.
“Based on its crabbed reading of Heller, the Seventh Circuit felt free to adopt a test for assessing firearm bans that eviscerates many of the protections recognized in Heller and McDonald,” wrote Thomas.
The lower court’s decision to uphold the gun ban was based on a limited reading of Heller, he explained, picking and choosing parts of the Supreme Court decision not to overturn the law. In the case, the lower court asked if the banned guns were common when the Second Amendment was ratified, in 1791. But Heller specifically states that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.”
“If a broad ban on firearms can be upheld based on conjecture that the public might feel safer (while being no safer at all), then the Second Amendment guarantees nothing,” he continued.
Thomas also argued that the Court’s refusal to hear the case was counter to their principles when overturning other unconstitutional laws.
“The Court’s refusal to review a decision that flouts two of our Second Amendment precedents stands in marked contrast to the Court’s willingness to summarily reverse courts that disregard our other constitutional decisions.
“There is no basis for a different result when our Second Amendment precedents are at stake. I would grant certiorari to prevent the Seventh Circuit from relegating the Second Amendment to a second-class right.”
As mentioned, this is not the first time SCOTUS has punted on a 2A issue in recent years. Most likely, it won’t be the last either.
“A well regulated militia”” is not the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. The focus is “the people” . ” The people” is included in the 1st, 9th and 10th amendments as well. The source of “a well regulated militia” comes from
the embarrassment felt when the continental army got together for the first time. It was a disaster when they attempted working as a unit, not ro mention the clothes the men wore. Also, The Bill of Rights were written because some states feared the power of a centralized government. The states insisted on written amendments to ensure the states AND individuals were protected from an overzealous federal government. The 2A has nothing to do with the types of firearms rather the right of individual, “the people”, was guaranteed to not have their right to bear arms infringed. Sounds pretty straightforward to me.
That old saw about limiting the 2nd amend. to guns that existed in 1791 is ridiculous! It’s as if they were saying that the founding fathers believed that there would have been no technological developments in firearms. DUH! The FF were intelligent, educated men, Thomas Jefferson and Franklin at least were active inventors. All were very much aware of ongoing developments in their world. Ferguson (KIA at Kings Mountain) had developed a practical, working breech loading rifle. There were a number of revolving double barrel guns. The search for increasing fire power was well established and ongoing. The state of industrial and technological growth were very important considerations in and for the growth and continued existence of this new nation they were founding. They may not have been able to imagine AR’s and AK’s specifically, but to imply that repeating firearms of any cyclic rate was beyond their comprehension is both foolish and derisive of them.
All of which points out the specific purpose behind the 2nd Am. That pesky word “militia.” Power rests in the hands of the armed. It was intended that the power and consent remain in the hands of the governed, NOT the government. We must recall that they were opposed to there even being an established army other than a core Guard to provide immediate protection of the seat of government and to train a militia into soldiers in time of need.
Of course, today’s liberals well understand that modern Americans be kept ignorant of all this so are carefully taught a highly revisioned version of “history” and conditioned to accept anything the government tells them as gospel. “Pravda- Truth- NOT. So told that gun control is for their safety, and taught to seek the government aid and control for their lives, the current and upcoming crops of American ‘sheeple’ will get on the band wagon and drag os down with them.
Siiggghhhh… I hadn’t meant for this to go their but, there it is. The camel is in the tent.
Not surprising. The checks and balances envisioned by our founding fathers have all been shot to hell. Evidence executive orders as well as the legislative and judicial branches refusing to do their job of “making laws” and “interpreting law” by striking down these same inappropriately implemented “executive orders”.
Patriots. Its all about money we pay the Government by taxes anyone remember the Boston tea party. No representation ring a bell. We are living in those days. Stop the money and you stop the government. If all conservative Patriots stopped paying taxes including the ones with held from paychecks we could stop them. Cut the head off the snake the body dies. Stop the money and the people running the government dont have jobs. A new political party must rise up and a civil war is brewing. The US military stands on the side of the people. This is why the feds are building their own army.
With the current makeup of the SCOTUS, they might just as well NOT waste time on this issue. It will obviously be 5-4, based on the swing voter believing in the Constitution, against the usual Liberal ideologists who don’t understand the Constitution.
As has been said..get out and vote, and vote wisely. True enough, however, I say; Get out and vote, vote wisely, BUT; Be an informed voter. All too often we go vote, we may or may not choose wisely, however most voters are ill informed, have no idea where each candidate stands on each issue. We listen to friends and family and the man/woman on the street on who the best candidate is and we base our decision on who we vote for on other ill informed voters.
Being a 100% disabled vet and disgusted with the America we live in today. When I took my oath when I enlisted in the Army 40 years ago took it to heart. My oath has no expiration date, even though I may have to use my walker more and my electric scooter more than I ever thought I would. I can and still do shoot, not as often as I used to but I still get as much range time as I can. If it comes to it, yes I WILL by GOD defend our constitution against ALL enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!
I try to get as much information on each candidate as I can before I go vote. Do I always make the correct or wisest choice…no I don’t, but at least I try and do right. In the end when all is said and done and the election result are in and the candidate who has the most money has bought his way into office, I feel in my heart that I did my best as an informed voter and have the right to bitch and moan about our elected officials. Be well, stay safe, God Bless. Wishing everyone here a very Merry Christmas and pray that all y’all have a Happy healthy and hopefully prosperous New Year.
Mark, To me, voting is for slaves choosing who they select to be their slave master. Become an American National and one even loses his/her ability to select those who will enslave them as masters.
The SCOTUS is about as useful as the establishment Republican Congress. Both are impotent when facing the slightest liberal opposition.
I think SCOTUS is SCARED to look at these cases…at least with Obama in office…
Perhaps after the next election?
Not sure how they looked at the 2nd and saw ANYTHING but a personal right to bear and own weapons. All the other rights are personal rights…and this one is sandwiched between others that are considered personal rights… .
The right exists for people to own weapons…in order to form a militia if/when needed.
Guess even SCOTUS gets it wrong sometimes.
As for limits on arms? There already are. Licensing/tax stamp requirements for some items.
Some states also have limits/bans. Not sure how that supersedes the Constitution (shall not be infringed).Guess they can limit speech and voting as well if they so choose.
Perhaps there should be limits on house sizes? Car engine sizes? Income? Number of children? etc..etc…etc…
I heard an interesting term recently. “Irish Democracy” is the silent, dogged resistance, withdrawal and truculence of millions of ordinary people against centralized powers.
For those of you who do not understand law or have failed to read the SCOTUS ruling in full… The decision was already made in the Heller case…
The court asked in the first instance whether the banned firearms “were common at the time of ratification” in 1791. 784 F. 3d, at 410. But we said in Heller that <> 554 U. S., at 582.
This is saying that the ban on general firearms held by law abiding citizens is illegal. Meaning that because the AR15, A10, and other similar firearms cannot be legally banned just because a city or local/state wants to ban them. The rejected the recent case because they have already passed their decision on this. The problem is now that a lawsuit needs to be filed against Highland Park for a willful violation of law in conjunction with a lawsuit against the judge in the lower court for refusing to uphold the law.
Thanks for clarifying, Todd.
Still a little confused, Todd.
If by not hearing the Highland Park, IL case, the Supreme Court is resting on, “Heller vs. McDonald,” and this is the precedent upon which our 2nd amendment rights have been tested and secured, why then did Thomas and Scalia feel a need to write a “dissenting” opinion? Seems that Heller had solved all arguments on the matter of the illegal firearms ban, regardless of what a lower court ruled. Wasn’t the original case against Highland Park for, “…a willful violation of law…,” specifically: an unconstitutional firearms ban?
Todd, What law? If you read my comment just above yours, you will notice that I challenge each and every decision these impostor’s (foreign agent occupier’) have ever made due to their unlawful designation of being supreme court Justices as opposed to supreme court Judges. May I respectfully ask that you dig a bit deeper in your law research to check into what I specify as being the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? 😉
Here’s another little nugget for all to consider before assuming I to be some sort of kook. Pull any oath of office from any public official (foreign agent occupier) and read what they have sworn to and subscribed to. You will notice that all subscribe to a document titled, The Constitution of the United States. I ask all to please show me where in law or at law such a document with such a title exists. I can save you all some time, it doesn’t exist. Now, there is documents that do exist and those are The Constitution for the united States of America c1787 and IIRC, The Constitution of the United States of America c1871. What we have here folks are public servants (foreign agent occupier’s), running around with an unlawful and fraudulent corporate contract while purporting to be lawful government. People, we need to wake up and smell the coffee so, here’s one of the most important LiveStreamed videos of damning evidence you will ever see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULu5M9D2I-Y&feature=youtu.be
Remember the Maxim of law I specified which is quite simple to remember: “Fraud Vitiates All”. I suggest all to take (2) aspirin and call me in the morning. 😉
If fraud were a snake, it would bite most of you right where the sun doesn’t shine because the fraud I am specifying in this matter is right in the title of this article. Where in the title of this article is the fraud I refer to? The word “JUSTICES”! Show me anywhere in the purported Constitution for the united States for America c1787, or the Constitution of the United States of America where the president shall nominate “Justices” of the supreme Court. Go to Article II, clause 2 to read for yourself that the president shall nominate “Judges” of the supreme Court, not “Justices”. There is a Maxim of law that reads, “fraud vitiates all” so therefore, each and every purported ruling ever made by this purported supreme Court is null and void because words in law are very, very important and in order for the word “Justices” to be used lawfully in any law document or description of this body of the purported judicial branch of government, there would need to be an Article V convention to do so.
99% of the comments I read here are excellent.but they all have a problem. We are talking to ourselves. Somehow, someway this message has to be heard by the masses.
Nothing good will happen under this administration and his supreme court. This administration needs impeachment.
It’s probably a very good thing that they didn’t take this case. The present court has four sure votes against the Second Amendment, and Kennedy and Roberts are flaky and politicized to the point that there is no way to predict what they might do. This court can not be expected to uphold the Constitution, and it’s better that they don’t hear any case of this sort until a future (and hopefully better) president has the opportunity to replace some of the leftist justices. This court is just as likely to gut the Second Amendment, as uphold it.
Here, Here!
The Tea Party was destroyed by both sides using the I.R.S ,sadly the Rep and Dem’s are 2 sides of the same coin with only a few exceptions that I believe to be conservative .Washington is just not out of touch with the people ,they could care less what we care about . Greed and power is more important than the Constitution ,the people or the Country.
Starting a new thread to ease reading.
They’re discussing ending due process, the Right to meet your accuser and a speedy trial.
While in front of the camera, they say they want to deny rights to those on the No Fly list.
In private, they’re discussing denying rights to anyone on the WATCH LISTS.
The problem with war is information. They’ve got most news anchors, journalists, judges, lawyers, politicians, unions, bloggers and comedians.
I am not optimistic.
My only hope is that when they send the intellectuals to tend the fields, that the liberals starve first and fastest. Once society completely breaks down (and let’s pray they keep nuke reactor workers in their jobs) it’ll be able to snap back.
They will pass another national weapons ban. They will seek ways to confiscate one household at a time. Boston was not a dry run for that. They can’t shut down internet nationally, conduct forty million raids simultaneously. They’ll seek to kill by a thousand cuts. One house at a time, preferably thru legal means.
Remember, this is a country that celebrates the “end of slavery” by celebrating the 13th amendment. This amendment gave the government the sole right to own humans as slaves. Slavery was not abolished. We lie to our own children because most believe slavery was abolished.
The nation has been dead for a hundred and fifty years. Long before 1913, 1963, 1971, Waco, ruby ridge or 2008.
I don’t talk like this most of the time. The depth of the madness is too much for most to choose to comprehend.
Well said.
Amen brother! Too few ever really read the Constitution.
AMENDMENT XIII Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.
Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT AS A PUNISHMENT FOR CRIME whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. CONGRESS SHALL HAVE POWER TO ENFORCE THIS ARTICLE by appropriate legislation.
Emphasis added. Notice, the National government reserved the right to enslave unto itself! Most read this to mean that convicted prisoners can be forced to work and does not include “slavery” as such. But there is nothing, NOTHING separating slavery and “involuntary servitude.” There is nothing to prevent the government from setting up forced labor camps (i.e. Auschwitz and Dachau) or pronouncing life long servitude as punishment for anything they care to define as a “crime” such as owning a banned weapon?
We are rapidly coming to the brink where we have to make a decision based upon the old saying- “You cannot enslave a free man. You can only kill him.”
Regrettably, the 2nd Amendment no longer could carry the force it was created with. In 1781 the primary difference in military weaponry was the ability to hang a bayonet upon a smooth bore musket and maybe get a 2″ bore muzzle loading cannon. Neither that hard to obtain or make along with the powder and shot to shoot them with.
The disparity between today’s military weaponry and a private citizen’s access to or ability to even make use of such if we could get ahold of it is so extreme as to be for all practical purposes unthinkable. I mean, we’re talking about satellite surveillance laser guided weapons that destroy long before their is anyway to detect their coming… The bottom line is that any kind of armed uprising succeeding in this country today is so probable of failure as to be a farce to even consider it. The way I see it, the best any of us can hope for is to get so far back in the boonies to live that it would be not worth the effort to track us down or to spend the resources to kill us.
You forget that a very large portion of the military would aid citizens in some sort of uprising/civil war. Very many men and women serving are pro freedom, and I read that its estimated some 75% of people in any of the services would join the side of the people, and with all the three letter agencies, it was estimated that some 50% would defect to the civilians side during a civil war/government take over. Not to mention, Putin said he would aid a Texas backed revolution.
Its this stuff that keeps MW optimistic.
“I read that its estimated some 75% of people in any of the services would join the side of the people.”
Unfortunately, I can tell you differently. I used to teach Ethics to senior military leaders. One of the questions I would personally direct toward each member of the class was, “You are the Commanding General of the Army in 1832. President Andrew Jackson orders you to begin Indian removal, later known as The Trail of Tears. Supreme Court Justice John Marshall has just declared Jackson’s action unconstitutional. Jackson responds with, “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!” What do you do?”
Over half my students responded that they would ‘follow orders’. I suspect that more than half of the others would also do so in real-life, as opposed to the classroom. I am sad to report that probably at least 75% of the military would simply ‘follow orders’ and attempt to quell any rebellion. Many, (way too many), also agree with the bad policies of recent years. You can probably thank our public education system for most of that.
I disagree. The rank and file military personnel are, individually, just as afraid of the federal government as anyone else. A Specialist or Corporal in the Army is just like any one else. Threaten their livelihood (pay and benefits) and they will kick the doors they are told to kick. Sadly, as a country, we no longer have a will to resist. I am a 20+ year veteran of the 82nd Airborne Division and I say that Nate can explain better than I.
You have never lied brother. They can watch me so I don’t have to borrow the money for a security system they need to do something positive
You think we are slaves, now just wait until this engineered economic collapse unfolds and the dollar loses reserve currency status as it will be replaced by the IMF’S SDRs. During those times our government will really begin to rule using chaos and confusion. I then begin to see gun confiscation in the rural areas especially after we lose the next major war ending with invasion. I know some may say I making paranoid assumptions, but judging by the laws, monetary policy,biased media, and influenced changes, it is just common sense understanding of our world today.
P.S. This is why this next presidential election is SO important. Presidents choose Supreme Court Justices. We need to get the U.S. Supreme Court back in balance. We need a Justice with testicular fortitude, who will interpret and uphold the U.S. Constitution to the heart, soul, and letter of what the original framers had intended, not a Justice who bows to the agenda of the current regime, world sentiment, or their own agenda.
Get out and vote. Choose wisely.
I really value your optimism.
In my view, this country is dead. There is no constitution. The flag is just a piece of fabric and the constitution is a memory. Yes, we can keep the memory alive.
But there wasn’t a coup. Just a murder. A coup would have a new government. They are just propping up the corpse of the federal government.
That’s what I loved about America. Federalization means we still have our state governments and sheriffs. Hope isn’t lost, but the fight for America is over.
If we still had a federal government, we wouldn’t be supporting “allies” that openly fund, arm and train jihadists. No more ammo drops in the Syrian desert. No more sending weapons to Mexican cartels.
Aaron,
I’m afraid you’re right, but I hope you are wrong. I hope there are enough of us left in this Country who understand and value the Constitution, and the God given rights noted under her Bill of Rights, enough to stand up and defend it, if necessary. But, I will be standing there.
America’s Coming Storm
There is trouble brewing in these United States. Not since the Civil War, have Americans been so polarized in their views. On one side we have the Constitutionalists, those who wish to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, as written and intended by its framers; and on the other side we have the New World Orderists (NWO-ers). The NWO-ers believe that the perceived safety of the people trumps all laws. The Constitutionalists believe in individual rights, as granted by God, and then set forth in recognition within the Bill of Rights of our Constitution. The NWO-ers believe the rights of the State (or group) trump all individual rights (a Communist ideology).
The NWO-ers believe in squashing all perceived danger with new laws, regardless of whether they are in compliance of our Constitution. The Constitutionalists believe that, since no provision was made for an individual’s safety in the U.S. Constitution, but for the 2nd Amendment, that an individual is ultimately responsible for their own safety.
America has always been a country of risk. With the Rights of Freedom comes a certain risk. The Constitutionalists realize that to walk among men of free will is a risk; always has been, always will be. The first Americans to cross the Bering Straits and settle this continent realized this fact. The Pilgrims realized they were on a dangerous and uncertain voyage when they left Europe, but decided the rewards (Freedom of Religion) was worth the risk. The settlers who crossed the Appalachian Mountains, and then pushed westward certainly realized the risks of going forth amongst men of free will. The African-American slaves undoubtedly realized the danger and risk to join men of free will, when they fled north from the men who proclaimed to be their masters.
“Free will,” gives a human the right to choose between right action, and wrong action (good and bad). A human being is given a choice, and is responsible for the consequences of that choice. It is much easier, and less risky to have an oppressive type government that eliminates free will, say a, “dictatorship,” where a person’s actions are dictated by the government. This type of government tries to eliminate all risk, especially risk to the government. In that type of government it is too risky to let people own weapons, as they could be used by the people against the state. Our Forefathers fled these types of governments to start a new country, where a man could live a life of free will, and accepted all the risks, dangers, and consequences of that life.
The NWO-ers believe that free will is too risky. They do not believe that an individual will make the right decision, so they will decide what the right decision for the individual is. They don’t believe that the individual can be trusted to make the right decision on proper use of their firearms; therefore they will ban individuals’ ownership of them. It is a nanny state that will make your decisions for you, and perceive to remove all risk. Hmmm? Sounds like the types of government our Forefathers came here to escape. The New World Order, it turns out, is just a thinly veiled Old World Order of oppression.
Firearms are power. Ask anyone who has shot one, they will tell you firearms provide portable power. Firearms allow the power to take life; and protect life. They allow the power to overthrow governments; or protect governments. They are the implied power of The People. The Right to Bear Arms is the ultimate power that protects our other God given rights. Freedom of Speech, or Freedom of Religion cannot protect themselves, or the other human rights, of their own accord. The 2nd Amendment is the note of power that backs up our U.S. Constitution. Without it, it is a house of cards.
Now is a critical juncture in our American History. We must decide if we will stand up erect and vigilant in defense of the free will granted us by God, and noted in the Bill of Rights, of our U.S. Constitution; or will we bow to the yoke of the new, Old World Order. To stand by complacently is submission of your free will.
Now is a critical juncture in our American History. We must decide if we will stand up erect and vigilant in defense of the free will granted us by God, and noted in the Bill of Rights, of our U.S. Constitution; or will we bow to the yoke of the new, Old World Order. To stand by complacently is submission of your free will. Tom Horn.
Exactly. Unfortunately fear controls the citizens of the U.S.. We have become a nation of the weak. People no longer know how to be self sufficient. How to survive. Our forefathers knew the persecution that would follow after they rebelled from the crown. Lots of families paid with their lives because they helped feed the revolution. Some because they were suspected of helping. The time is nigh. And there is a point of no return. This once great country is falling before our eyes. Those who run it have put first greed and power before those whom they are supposed to serve. In my lifetime I’ve not seen one president who truly served this country and her people. It’s sickening. When our CHILDREN and GRANDCHILDREN ask why we did nothing to save their future what will be our reply? Cowardice? Selfishness? Oh but I’m prepping for my families sake. Yeah, your family vs the world. Divided we will fall. We all are guilty of squandering our freedom. Freedom that has been paid for with the blood of true patriots. Sad.
Tom, your description of Americans and our rights and responsibility as they stand today, is in my opinion, one of the best and most accurately worded statements I’ve read in quit some time. I’m going to try to share what you have said here with as many as I can. I couldn’t agree with you more.
Tom, great comments and dead on accurate.
Also, to James M, you too are correct, especially that our Freedoms have been bought and paid for by the blood of Patriots. It infuriates me when I see so-called “conservatives” who are in many ways no better than the masses of brainwashed liberals who are more concerned about safety than they are about Liberty. They refuse to accept the fact that without Liberty, there is no freedom so while they may gain the APPEARANCE” of safety by implementing their criminal agenda, in reality all theya re getting is the chains of slavery.
While I pray that We the People, at least those of us who still believe in the ideal of America, will unite to take our country back from those who are intentionally destroying it, I fear that even many patriots have a misguided belief that if it becomes necessary, they will at that time join the “resistance”, defeat the traitors, then go back to watching football etc. Our Founders displayed tremendous wisdom time and time again, most notably when they not only included our God given right to KEEP and BEAR arms in the Bill of Rights, but they also described it as being “necessary to the security of a free state”, the only time the word necessary was used in the BofR or our Constitution.
This decision by the misnamed supreme court is no less than treason, for it will allow our enemies in government to ban semi-auto weapons nation wide which will degrade our ability to fight back against those who would enslave us.
Remember the old story about when they came for the Jews, everyone was silent, and when they finally came for me, there was no one left to help? We are rapidly approaching that moment so we had best be on our knees begging God to forgive us and intervene in our cause once again, while we do all in our power to prepare for what seems to be an inevitable confrontation brought on not by us but by the traitors in government.
I refuse to sit by waiting for the traitors to steal all our rights so they can enslave us without fighting back. I refuse to leave a dictatorship to my descendants as my legacy after I inherited what was the greatest country in the history of the world through no effort of my own, but through the blood, sweat, tears, and sacrifices of countless Patriots who refused to bow to tyrants but chose instead to risk lives, fortunes, and sacred honor in the eternal struggle for Liberty.
For me the only options are to Live Free or Die. For the record, I subscribe to the Patton philosophy of war. Molon Labe!
It’s called socialism. Which is the preamble to communism. A dark quiet lie perpetuated by the Socialist Democratic party. I defy anyone to attempt to deny that the Democratic party is not Socialism redefined as “progressive”. They can rename the $hit anyway they want to. In the end it’s still $hit. Including the smell.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to share you observations with us Tom. I couldn’t agree more, nor explained our situation any better.
I am with you brother. What would Washington have done, given up , NO WAY. We have got to find a path and follow it. Now who will be the leaders to give this country back to it citizens.
[quote]Get out and vote. Choose wisely.[end quote]
I whole heartedly agree with you. Unfortunately, that’s not really an option. The “choose wisely” is the especially hard part. Just picture if there was an election in the past for two well known candidates. Your choices? Stalin or Hitler. Choose wisely you said- just who the heck would you vote for? THAT’s been the problem for too long. No one to vote FOR and holding your nose and voting AGAINST the other guy hasn’t done us any good so far either.
Conservatives have been blamed for the Republicans failure to win the presidency. They ignore the obvious. We are conservatives and being against liberal democrats does not make us Republicans. That party recently have only offered us candidates just slightly less liberal than their opponents. Of course, this has been engineered in parts by the media, rigged voting machines and strong armed voting watches (I mean come AWN! When any district posts 100% votes for one candidate you KNOW something is crooked and there were several such!) and bussing “voters” to pack the count in strategic locations. When we’re offered the likes of Romney, of course the conservative voters staid home in droves. That was (make that, should have been) a no-brainer! A Mormon candidate is not going to get the vote of the “Bible Belt” so right off the bat they alienated the deep South which is the heartland of conservative voters. Then he stood up and claimed to oppose the very form of “health care” he signed into law as a governor. Of course we believed THAT whopper. Yeah. NOT.
Of course, the idiots who could have replaced Romney at the ballot box had they only tossed a coin or some such to decide who got to run for pres and who would stand in as vice but the stood their ground and split the vote right to the last proving their only interests were their own careers and not the course of the country. That also proved they were stupid because it was clear neither of them would pull ahead of a media supported Romney (until he was the last left standing) by standing on a split vote. For the record, I don’t think either Gingrich or the other were great choices but, I think together they could have beat Obama.
And of course, that is just one example.
We have a congress who crawl in a corner to lick their privates like the dogs they are every time Obama pencil whips an executive order into law. He’s done enough to have been drummed out of office many times over. Of course, that would take, as you put it, “testicular fortitude” and that is NOwhere to be found in our government, except maybe in the liberals, and that’s only because they know the media is solidly in their pockets.
That’s enough. MORE than enough. Rant over.
Guys,its a good day because I woke up again there are no guarantees. Our forefathers u
send their own guns to allow us the freedom we have enjoyed when the rest worlds people lived like they were told to. We have elected officials to represent us that don’t have any common sense. I doubt if you could get a baby food jar full if you got all 435 congressional members and took all they possess collectively. The children we raised don’t have enough skills to man factories if we we’re at war and the borders closed. I have to special order things that are made here. They are either atheists or they thump the bible. If I was on the Supreme Court my judgement on gay marrive goes like this. I look outside in my yard and I don’t see a bluebird and a Redbird nesting together. I don’t see two male wrens nesting together or females either. I’m not preaching I’m just going on what I can see in the natural world and we are creatures as well as they are. They don’t lie or connive or worry about the other birds are doing. I’m not sure if you have the same ideals I would base my decision on but it is so simple a small child can understand. What are our leaders basing their decisions on. I’m just a simple man who has been called a hankie cracker and more than one should repeat. I’m sorry to say that our way of life is not going to be any easier. Until we get enough people to represent us that can look around them and understand that they just passed a bill and it will be signed into law that crimes against nature are to be respected and that is OK you can be lawfully going about your crime and the police will lock someone if they are in the way of or hinder you in of from the commission of crimes against nature. It is sad we have declined as natural beings ant the law supports it. I’m sure that I will have a reckoning if there is thought in a soul and if there’s a he’ll I will have the snow cone stand to the right beside the gate. Because I will be like our wise leaders and be sure Satan gets his cut. Now I feel just like a preacher. I’m full of myself.
Hate to say you’re right, Jim. Afraid you are.
Tom
If you want a Conservative to sit in the White House you should support and vote for the candidate chosen by the party even if you don’t like him 100%. The Democrats are doing this even if they know how rotten their candidate is. If you continue to be complacent by letting things take its course, the Democrats will always win and will continue to push their devilish agenda to turn this country into a socialist state until the conservative voice will be heard no more.
The problem right now is POTUS has SCOTUS by the balls and there isn’t much anyone can do about it. When Scalia (I think) broke US AND international law with the adoption of (I think it was 2 boys) instead of being fired Obummer “fixed” his problem in exchange for control of SCOTUS. SO right now WE’RE FUCKED!!
It is not just the office of president that is important, the senate and the house each have a 1/3 of the power, you have to get rid of the the establishment of dnc and GOP, in the senate and house, elect those who have the same ideology as you, GOD, Constitution and country. With out a constitutional senate and house you have the same situation we are in now.
We need to break the back of the established politicians and their corrupt organizations,
Read the 45 points of the communist manifesto, and the Islamic 20 year plan to bring down America, (both parties are working towards these goals, you can see which politicians are working to bring down America), and tell me what part of it has not been completed, then take a look at UN resolution 16/18 ( which eliminates your first amendment ) negotiated by Hilary Clinton with the muslium brother hood, and an executive order to put it in place, by guess who, After you read that, you will then only understand why he refuses to declare it an Islamic terror act, but work place violence, not too say he is protecting the Islamic state until it is time to declare the caliphate here in America ( which could be as early as next year 2017 ). Remember he has twiced now that he is not leaving Washinton.
So it is very important to disarm the American public as soon as possible.
Also for those who don’t know about agenda 21 how it will affect you , look it up, they want it done by 2020, after that check agenda 2030. Still on YouTube as of right now.
This is just what our 2nd Amendment was written for and about. When a branch of our Federal Government (Judicial) decides to usurp the power of The People, and ignore the U.S. Constitution for their own agenda, our Forefathers planned for us to be able to rise up in indignation and seize our Country back from these usurpers. And, they didn’t plan for you to do it with shotguns and birdshot, but with military weaponry of the times.
Precisely! So when does the party start? The loner we wait, the higher probability that they will enact a total ban of all weapons which will mean the end of liberty in America with no way to resurrect it.
Molon Labe! As valid now as it was for the Spartans.
I meant “longer” not loner. Sorry. My computer can’t spell.
The problem is we lack the communication and organization to do so. If a group of people did decide to form one especially using the Internet, the department of Homeland Security will just label it as a terrorist group, shut it down and prosecute. The global elite owned mainstream media brainwashing those who only operate on passive thoughts of other people, which argumentaly could be the biggest tool and threat by the elite to bring the U.S.A to the will of a corrupt one world government by the most powerful people in the world. I think the media/real world information should be the first thing that should be exposed and heavily scrunized not just by appointed people but regular civilians should be able to make their case on a broadcast show. The problem is how would that ever be possible considering the people that owns the networks?
AMEN !!!!!…MR. HORN! That is EXACTLY! why we have the Second Amendment. I ‘am a Vet…6th Air Cav, I very proudly served with men that flew the very helicopters that I kept in the air that they flew over Viet Nam. These men had history of that war in their eyes…sometimes I would over hear alittle bit of talk of the missions that they recalled. If anyone knows the history of that war from the beginning…I’ am sure they would reflect on the history of war in this country and realize that we are ‘BY GOD’ free because our forefathers knew by putting this very important document together, was to keep us ALL free. There are many American people to this very day that have no idea what the Second Amendment is, let alone that it exists. Thank You for the reminder…My reminder of the Second Amendment is the very weapon brand name that I carry and it’s abbreviation is S.A. ‘Springfield Armory’ Take Care.
Agreed!!
There is also another simpler, more basic defense of the second Am. The Founding Fathers created the Constitution that established what form or government was to take and to limit (Hah!) it’s power. Having done so, it was realized that nothing was said about the rights of individuals. So the original Bill of Rights was created to address that lack. Originally there were 10 Amendments. Ten guarantees of Rights for individuals. So no matter the wording. how does one consider the Bill of Rights to consist of 9 individual rights and one government granted privilege?! It beggars belief. As the old saying goes, “What part of ‘shall not be infringed” don’t you understand?”.
It’s coming .They get one hole in the Bill of Rights and then the whole thing goes in the trash.
Revolvers kill more than rifles in America.
This case will let liberals feel good without any real impact. They’ll self segregate and hope to get a super majority with the white house.
The beauty in this supreme court decision is that they’ll lose electoral power.
Aaron, please explain what you mean by saying they will lose “electoral power”. SCOTUS judges are appointed, not elected, so I am confused. Thanks.
It’s not about feeling good it’s about a foot in the door. These people want all of your civil right.They are the same class of people as the slave owners and the same party as well . If the constitution allows states to restrict or infringe on our bill of rights let’s have a literacy test for the privilege to vote. I bet the corrupt supremes would hear that one.
What is it about the Supreme Court refusing to accept a case that would make the gun grabbing liberal feel good? They got their case thrown back in their faces… Thankfully it will give them no joy. And as already mentioned, Supreme Court Justices are appointed, not elected. Another case of someone prematurely oozing their ignorance all over their keyboard and actually hitting send before using the unimaginably huge amount of information and facts available to anyone with an internet connection.
Revlovers don’t kill people PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE?