Rare Breed Firearms and Rare Breed Triggers are showing off their new trigger for AR-pattern firearms, the FRT-15, or Forced Reset Trigger. The FRT-15 uses energy from the bolt to reset the trigger forward, allowing rapid, but not automatic fire.
According to Rare Breed the FRT-15 is not subject to regulation under the National Firearms Act, or NFA, since it requires the shooter to pull the trigger for every round fired.
And they do fire quickly. From these introductory videos it’s clear that this is a speedy system, using the mechanical advantage to give the shooter Jerry Miculek-style powers.
Whether or not fast shooting is practical is a matter of debate, but it is fun and a real head-turner at the range. Plus these triggers are a whole lot cheaper and more plentiful compared to actual automatic arms, which are expensive and extremely tightly regulated.
At $380, the Rare Breed FRT-15 isn’t inexpensive but in-line with other premium and boutique trigger systems. The FRT-15 is a drop in cassette-style trigger, although Rare Breed suggests gunsmith installation.
Not included with, but required components include an H3 or similar heavy buffer or comparable recoil assembly and a full-auto-rated bolt carrier group. Designed for AR-pattern firearms, the FRT-15 may not work with other guns that use AR trigger systems, owing to how it interacts with the bolt carrier.
The FRT-15 has a 7075-T6 aluminum housing with a gold anodized finish with wire EDM-cut steel fire control parts. The steel parts have a black QPQ nitride finish for corrosion- and wear-resistance and added lubricity. The trigger pull is rated at a pretty standard 5 pounds.
Theirs is not the first trigger of this kind. Other companies have produced trigger systems that tap the action of the host firearm to assist the trigger’s reset without falling under the umbrella of the NFA, such as the Tac-Con trigger system.
Similarly, other companies have manufactured binary trigger systems which are not regulated as NFA items, so in the same spirit, these triggers also aren’t NFA-regulated.
The FRT-15 reset mechanism probably takes a little practice to use, and there’s a chance that the forced reset may be uncomfortable for people with sensitive or “calibrated” trigger fingers, but it sure looks like a whole lot of fun, assuming you have the ammo to feed it.
For more information about the FRT-15 visit Rare Breed Triggers online.
This kinda stuff is what gives gun control nuts boners… Why? All its gonna take (if it even takes that) some wack job to use it in a ASE and bang… all AR’s are banned… It almost happened because of the bump stock and the las vegas massacre. Theses type of things are the “I’m not touching you” as you shove a finger in their face type of thing. Yup… totally not illegal… 100%. Putting a finger in the face of the gun grabbing nuts cause you can…. 100%. What are you gonna use it for? To be tacticool? Seems like alot of meh for the cool guy look.
These FRT15’s are great but wow you burn thru boo coo “beaucoup” ammo is only downside really and If one really wants a full Auto, Just have patients and wait until the SHTF and I’d imagine there should be more than a few scattered on the ground. M4’s too lol
Dingbats on ebay have done the normal stupidity of insane mark-ups, I saw one go for over $900(avg is $660) as if you can’t just buy one when they’re back in stock.
The usual dirtbags on there have done the same with any fostech or franklin as well.
This trigger pack requires a m16/m4 machine gun bolt carrier to function; possession of any m16/m4 machine gun bolt carrier, or trigger and hammer assembly component and the possession of an AR15 rifle or pistol is possession of an unregistered machine gun and a federal felony. Regardless if the m16/m4 parts are installed or not.
This type of posession charge will put you in the grey bar hotel for up to 10 years or on a long leash as an ATF informant to setup your friends, family, and other idiots who think their special op’s material and really need a jam-o-matic.
You could not be more wrong about the M16 bolt-carrier group (BCG). Almost EVERY SINGLE AR-15 style rifle sold on the market today has a full-auto, M16 BCG installed. It is also 100% LEGAL to own a full-auto AR trigger system. The issue with an AR is the third hole, and whether or not that is drilled out of an unregistered lower receiver.
Stop spreading misinformation please.
That is false , learn something about guns before spreading lies and bs
You REALLY NEED to first realize and KNOW what a “full auto” or “semi” BCG ACTUALLY ‘IS’ before you start telling people what the need. School yourself please. Hey, “mistakes” do happen..but we HAVE to do our BEST to make sure we minimize them. Read up!
The possession of an auto bcg, and trigger system is not illegal, until you possess an auto sear. According to the BATFE themselves, you cannot possess all components of the auto bcg, trigger, and sear assemblies at the same time you own an at 15 lower receiver. This can be fought successfully in court if proven that no provision for an auto sear exists in the weapon. Drop in auto Sears (Dias, or rdias) also count towards possession of an auto sear.
In short you can possess all components of an auto weapons trigger group except the auto sear without trouble. You may have to fight in court if they find you possess all components, but again they will be trying to get you on “constructive intent”, which cannot be 100% proven.
“Needtoknow” seems to be a good name for you, as in you should actually learn the law & not try putting out bs info.
Hate to break it to you but the Easter bunny’s not real.
What REALLY sucks is saying something on the WORLD WIDE WEB that makes you one of the biggest dumbasses on earth!
Needtoknow…you are a FUCKING IDIOT
As much fun as this thing looks, it will probably go the way of the bump stock in time.
I love standing in line. I love getting lots of automated messages prior to having my phone call connected to something that is using oxygen. I love the “new normal”. I am putting all my personal information on Facebook including my SS number and all credit card and banking information along with all my passwords. I am depending on the United States Government to protect me and direct me to the correct bathroom if they feel I need to use one. I swear and pledge to be a good American and will not think for myself. I will write down what I am told. I am a “law abiding gun owner”.
Sorry just distracted with all the FA guns I am delivering to Mexican Cartels, it is a bitch removing all the DOJ labels the glue is really strong.
You said it boss!
Honestly if ur a gun guy and are scared of buying this because ur worried about what the antigun crowd will say then ur a disgrace to the gun community, go put ur face diaper back on and shutup, and to the idiot that said this is a waste of ammo then load ur 5 rd mags and shoot 4 rds because 5 is wasting ammo…. FOOL
You’re absolutely right. I like the term “face diaper” since it catches all the “shit” that an infected person exhales. Thanks
I ordered one yesterday. Thing is going to be AWESOME in my AR with fightlite upper.
Instant SAW, without paying more than the median home costs.
This man… is so correct that is isn’t even funny. I bought one because F.U. I can.
The US government only works when it exists to protect our god given unalienable rights. When it fails to do that, then we have no need for them in the current state… Period!
The ATF is going to ban this trigger faster than it can shoot.
Yep. It’s already “out of stock”.
…yep. Wouldn’t mind owning one, just for ‘kicks’. IT’LL BE ILLEGAL…HECK, PROBABLY ALREADY IS ha ha ha
Stand for something especially your RIGHT TO OWN FIREARMS!!
Good luck finding bullets to feed that thing!
Can anyone explain why 90% of shooting related videos have to have extremely loud, obnoxious music that ruins the entire experience? Is there anything wrong with simply not having music or have it play unobtrusively and quietly in the background?
It’s probably an attempt to raise adrenalin with an audio and visual experience something like certain segments of a Martin Scorsese film.
THANKYOU SIR…
EVEN SOME MOZART MAYBE
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%
This is not a new concept. There was a similar modification for 1911 pistols over 50 years ago.
Want to stop all the non-sense, repeal the NFA. When the NFA was enacted there was no such thing as a Brady background check. Now that there is what is the purpose of the NFA? It’s supposed to be a tax, that’s the loophole congress used to enact it. A tax is supposed to generate revenue. NFA has never generated revenue, it has always cost more to administer it than was collected. They lose millions of dollars every year trying to administer it.
It’s used as an add-on charge when used by criminals…..which no longer matters as the presence of any firearm in a crime now has the same additional penalty.
It’s time for the NFA to go away.
Even as a tax, the NFA is illegal, and has always been so.
That’s good old American ingenuity at work.
They need to have one for FALs.
Another unnecessary, ammo wasting piece of crap to waste your money on. But a good promo for gun grabbers to glamorize and ramp up gun confiscation.
Go back to fiddling with your flintlock Mltrigger.
Leave demonizing guns and their accessories to the loonytoon leftists, and let’s stand together as a 2A Brothers & Sisters
That’s exactly what I was thinking! The two kids playing pretend in this video would make an outstanding promo on why we deplorables should have our gun rights taken away. If people want an even faster way to throw away their valuable ammo, that’s on them, but I could just see this device showing up in the national news.
Maybe instead of coming up with a way to circumvent the GCA’s prohibition/restriction on “machine guns”, maybe we could come up with some useful instead – like Jard’s set trigger!
Mostly just bad timing,but then again, when will there ever be a good time to reason with anti gunners. Sure, I suppose it could be used by a criminal to pin down law enforcement. Could it cut down more people in a crowd(which we are not gathering in these days) than “normal” semi auto fire? Maybe…. I could see it being relative as a means of dispersing a riotous group(blocking your passage or attacking your vehicle) What it definitely can’t do is turn a law abiding citizen into a lawless felon;
only the ATF and ignorant politicians can do that.
So…another trigger that will be banned in Florida?
LOL – Right? That statute is so intentionally vague – I’m not sure if it’s actually been used.
790.222: As used in this section, the term “bump-fire stock” means a conversion kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device used to alter the rate of fire of a firearm to mimic automatic weapon fire or which is used to increase the rate of fire to a faster rate than is possible for a person to fire such semiautomatic firearm unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device.
Jerry Miculek’s finger is illegal in Florida too in that case.
I wonder if this thing utilizes the “3rd position” on the selector? My Franklins do this – and it’s always FUN to flick my MPX into binary. I have “over-run” the bolt with it though. It seems like this device, relying on the bolt to do the reset, would eliminate that issue. They are similarly priced (and similarly UNAVAILABLE). Though I do have 2 NIB Franklins on my shelf with nothing I really feel like putting them into.
Also – being a solid drop-in – they won’t run into “broken pin issues” when you use them in piston/fast bolt guns like the MPX/MCX – though I’m not sure they’ll run in an unmodified bolt (and I’m not sure if the SA bolt in the sigs are the same as the FA bolts)…
Would this even work in an mpx? Im sure the single fire would work just fine, but, and i am a newbie on the matter, would it reset itself after a single round in an mpx? Im not sure the bcg behavior is the same.
With the current shortage and price of ammo, who could afford to piss away rounds like that ? But it looks like fun.
No that does not make the weapon an NFA item. FA bolt carriers are not NFA. On putting in a truly select-fire trigger and then, of course a FA bolt to make that trigger work, would case an NFA issue. But the FA BCG, in and of itself, is not controlled. This trigger is not classified as a select-fire trigger because it has to be pulled for each shot to fire.
How about Rare Breed trigger for AK47s ?
There’s talk about such. The problem is whether this can withstand ATF “interpretations” of law. My guess would be no.
The ALG from Geissele is supposedly an exceptional trigger for the AK.
But not a binary-style trigger like this (or the franklin).
There are binary fire systems for AK platforms. I’ve stayed away from them because, unlike the Franklin AR one – you have to HOLD the trigger, strip the mag, and empty the chamber in an AK if you don’t want to fire the second shot. AR style triggers, you move the selector to semi/safe and not send the 2nd round downrange.
AK style FCG’s are a completely different design from AR’s. The ALG trigger is a nice replacement for a crappy factory trigger, but won’t replicate the fire rate of this device.
…should have made the music LOUDER…
If you watch their promotion video of their General Council discussing the legality of this, he is very cautious to repeatedly state “in my legal OPINION”. His opinion is not worth the breath it takes to state it. It is true that their trigger does a reset and requires the trigger be manipulated again for repeated shots, but that is exactly what the Bump Stocks do and look what happened to them. BATFE can rule that these are machine guns at anytime they please, just like they did with the Bump Stocks. We all know that the SCOTUS is neutered and will not take up any 2A cases to defend our Constitutional and God given rights.
I would point out that your opinion carries as much weight and sway as his.
Kinda makes your post rather moot, eh?
Very True. But what everyone needs to realize and stop denying, is that the government that we live under, and have for at minimum of one century, is tyrannical according to the founders of said country.
Tyrants do not allow things that they don’t like. So it has nothing to do with “is it LEGAL or not” All despots, tyrants, dictators and every other evil form of government, make the laws and change them for the benefit or their agendas, NOT for your safety! This is the lie that so many still believe. That laws enacted by government are FOR YOUR GOOD.
Those who worry about which gun law is legal or not are still worrying about a scratch when they have a terminal cancer. “THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE…SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.” Look up the word infringed in a Webster’s 1898 dictionary (when the word was used as it was meant). No tyrants care nothing for what is wrong nor right they make the law FIT what they want it to fit. And do care at all if they themselves break the law. The question is: Why should any person obey when they know it is morally wrong to do so and. If one doesn’t know how to tell what is morally right or not, they must get some help.
It MAY be true for a short time after a government is established, that they will set up a law for societal good, but it certainly is NOT true now for us in the USSA. The constitution (the legal construct) has been broken by the government, so many times it cannot be counted. The Bill of Rights which was supposed to keep said government from doing such things has not a single element that has not been blatantly broken (read that as: OUR GOVERNMENT IS ILLEGAL AND A CRIMINAL AND WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO BRING IT TO JUSTICE).
Now go ahead and vote! That’s our recourse, right? How’s that working out for us? We FINALLY have to admit that voting is completely corrupt in a corrupt USSA. Unless of course a person is one of those irresponsible citizens that has not watched all the evidence presented and simply believed the propaganda saying there is no evidence of vote fraud. There’s no hope for this person anyway. Every one else needs to overcome their normalcy bias and consciously admit that there is no just rule of law in this country and then act as their conscience tells them as a responsible human being.
Very, VERY WELL stated. Goes to show, WORDS DO mean something…even if they’re JUST on ‘paper’. The dims have crapped and shredded on OUR “once” highly-regarded Constitution and We ARE NOW living in a SOCIALIST..SOON to become Communist society ‘governed’ by ANTI-Constitutionalists, ANTI-America moronic despots. Hang on…it’s about to get UGLY!
Don’t get me wrong, it looks like a lot of fun! But, and this is a big but, I am not too sure that you can show this video to convince people that an AR is not an assault rifle…this is the kind of thing that will get my guns taken away!
Why is it that people such as you STILL haven’t figured out that NO AMOUNT of ‘convincing’ is ever gonna be enough to stop those who are anti gun?????
They don’t care what the real facts are, they just don’t want you to have guns!!!!!!!
And it wouldn’t stop with AR’s, they just don’t want us to have guns!!!!!
Big al, I’m not talking about convincing the antigunners. I’m talking about convincing ignorant voters. I am not opposed to the trigger, but the propaganda potential of this video is off the charts.
John, Some day soon your going to have to give your rights up or fight for them. I know I have thought many times about this since the election, and I am going to stand. I can’t live life with out liberty.
As for the new contraption, you can use a heavy rubber band with out having to by a new carrier etc. and you can do it for free. Look at Y-tube, there are still one or two that show how to do it from the shoulder instead of the belt and get more than enough rds. accurately enough to confuse the enemy.
I think my trigger finger is pretty calibrated to something like this from years of playing paintball with a response trigger. Basically a piston that resets the trigger that taps off the gas from shooting, they can run pretty quick with some practice
I’d recommend that that heavy buffer be anti tilt.
Only for ARs? What about a Sig Sauer MCX Rattler?
Depends on if the bolt in the MCX is the same as in their select fire version.
Shoot – now you’re going to make me go look…
OK (since we can’t post pics here) – the BCG in my MCX is WAY SHORTER than the regular AR/M4 bolt carrier. The requirement for a FA BCG is the difference in the “cutout” on the underside of the bolt, that is used to trip the (secondary) sear in a select fire AR platform.
Since the Sig MC/MP platforms are gas piston (vs direct impingement) with an integral spring assembly (versus the “tail” that goes into the buffer tube), and is much shorter (and lacks the “lug” on an AR/M4 BCG that resets this trigger group) – I’m gonna give that a HARD NO IMHO. There are also SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES between the MCX FA bolt carrier – and you likely cannot even find one.
For a system that’s supposed to be modular – SIg REALLY SCREWED US on parts availability. I’m looking to get rid of my MCX – because I cannot find a conversion kit to 5.56 (which would make it more affordable to shoot).
A Franklin Binary WILL WORK (works on my MPX) – but you need to replace the roll pins with solid steel pins – because the faster/harder action of the bolt breaks trigger pins (ask me how I know).
But a call/email to Rare Breed should answer the question more definitely. I’m 99.9% sure the answer is going to be NO.
OTOH – Who wants to waste EXPENSIVE 300BL in select-fire mode anyways? Still looking for a buyer for mine.
What are you looking to get for your MCX?
You can get an MCX Auto Sear Trip Bar from parker mountain machine. Im curious if you get this trip bar, which is legal, if it will allow the FRT trigger to function. Any thoughts?
Just what the 2A people need is some gimmick to mimic auto fire. What moron thought this was a good idea?
You cucks all sound alike.
Rouge1….as in makeup? or the color red?
A Real American tired of bullshit laws and bootlickers like yourself BUURGA.
Here’s my question. Did I not understand that dropping a full auto bolt into my AR-15 and using this trigger makes the weapon a machine gun under US Code?
Thanks!!
It depends on what day of the week it is.
Good question, but the article said “no”, as the trigger STILL requires one pull per shot. So the answer is “no”, which is not to say that it will not come under scrutiny and then suppression by our new overlords.
Nope, this trigger is 100% perfectly legal to install and use. It still requires a finger to pull the trigger for each and every shot fired, therefore it is still a semi-auto weapon. And don’t listen to Buurga, as it sounds like he’s just another libocrat!
No.