Gov. Cuomo is pushing a Red Flag bill that would allow teachers to petition a judge to disarm a student believed to be an “extreme risk.” But that confiscation mandate might also extend to all the firearms in a household, not just the ones belonging to the student. In other words, if your kid is an “extreme risk,” the state might seize your guns too. (Photo: Como)
Gov. Andrew Cuomo is making the rounds this week promoting his Red Flag bill, what he is framing as “taking the SAFE Act to the next level,” as he said in a recent ad.
The legislation allows designated people to petition a court to disarm a person believed to be a danger to themselves or others.
At its core, it’s a way for the state to confiscate firearms. What makes Cuomo’s Red Flag bill different than other Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs) is that along with family members and law enforcement, school officials are empowered to solicit a gun seizure order for a student they believe to be an “extreme risk.”
Moreover, based on various media reports, here and here, it appears that the bill allows for state police to seize all the firearms in an entire household, not just the ones belonging to the student.
“If a parent or a teacher knows a child might act out, has access to guns, let them have the ability to go to a judge,” Cuomo said Monday at a press conference. “This has nothing to do with politics. It is common sense. There is no reason this shouldn’t pass.”
SEE ALSO: Cuomo Introduces ‘Red Flag’ Law to Allow Teachers to Disarm Students (Who Can’t Lawfully Purchase Guns to Begin With)
GunsAmerica reached out to Cuomo’s office several times to get more clarification on the scope of this Red Flag bill. We’ve also reached out to a half-dozen state lawmakers. No responses thus far.
We asked Tom King, a lobbyist for the NRA-ILA and the president of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association if the state would really be directed to disarm an entire family because there is a troubled student living in the home.
“We are trying to get the same question answered,” said King in an email to GunsAmerica. “Unlike other states there are no public hearings on these bills and we have to rely on them answering questions. Since this is a Cuomo bill I expect the worst.”
Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation was even more cynical about Cuomo’s agenda.
“New York Governor Andrew M. Cuomo is and has always been for gun prohibition,” Gottlieb told GunsAmerica. “If he had his way no one would be allowed to own a firearm. This move is just one more step towards his goal. He is totally allied with the gun ban lobby.”
Lawmakers are scheduled to debate the legislation Tuesday. Maybe when they’re finished we’ll get some answers. Stay tuned.
My wife and I have reached a point in our lives that we have plenty of time to travel and the available funds to do it with. We would love to visit the Northeast part of our great Country, but these days we are concerned that traveling in those states in a 4×4 SUV with out-of-state plates might identify us as an easy target by law enforcement in those areas. Plus – the panoply of the different laws regarding firearms and ammunition makes us wary of placing ourselves in those states, potentially having to deal with overzealous, untrained LEOs. So, New York et al is a “DO NOT VISIT” state on our list. So Mr. Cuomo and New York businesses do not get our holiday funds, nor I’m sure do they get the funds of many more individuals who prefer not to visit a police state. Add to that all the people moving out of New York for more “tax friendly” states, makes one wonder how jerks like Cuomo get elected in the first place.
“Cuomo’s Bill: NY State Police Will Disarm You if Your Child is ‘Red Flagged’”
Hey, Cuomo, better start hiring more police,
I have a feeling there will be vacancies when this happens.
Split the state into quarters; one quarter for nyc and three quarters as one state!
Take away Homos protection and leave the proanort naked to predators–just like liberal pukes like him want to do to Americans.
Come get them Gov. Homo.
Meatball Cuomo is a delusional fool if he thinks America should follow New York’s lead with his new Anti Gun Policies.
New York politics is like a cancer America cannot afford to allow it to spread.
The same old cliche when they outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. MOLON LABE!
….Welcome to the Totalitarian state of New York!!……….Time to move out of the Hell Hole!!,…
Seems to me, Gov. Cuomo is dangerous. I wonder how many firearms he has stashed throughout the Governor’s Mansion. We need to send storm troopers to confiscate his guns before he hurts someone. We have to protect the children.
Another ‘brain’ in the same light as his ‘brain’ father so lets popularize this phrase ‘Andrew azende me tuzeprovenos sfachim” = Mario listen to me you are a low life’!
this could be a good thing since most of the red flagged students would be gangbangers of the protected minorities it would give Cuomo and his SS troops access to the thugs homes. go get em gov.
BTW F*CK DENIRO.
Is funny when he went to Cuba. The state police was armed.. why?
This is still violating numerous constitutional rights, the 2a protects all the rest, remember the fallen, the brave, and history of tyrannical gov.
This is always how Progressives start when they take-over countries.
Heres a thought CUOMO!!, If you want to make a law, how about make it a law where every home with a gun with a child be required a secured Gun Safe subsidized by they state. But if you did that, that would make to much sense and you couldn’t confiscate guns could you. Also I’m sure your going to require teachers to ask students to squeal on there parents to find out if there is a gun in the house so you can put them on a list for confiscation. You see where this is going, kind of like when Hitlers youth group were required to turn in family and neighbors, and we all know how that turned out.
No to any forced state crap like mandatory safes.
……………….GunsAmerica reached out to Cuomo’s office several times to get more clarification on the scope of this Red Flag bill. We’ve also reached out to a half-dozen state lawmakers. No responses thus far………………..SOOOOOOOO FUNNY!!!! See, THIS kind of SHIT is EXACTLY what’s wrong with “OUR SIDE”. What is it going to take to make us ALL, (not just some), realize that the “OTHER SIDE” DOES NOT GIVE A RAT’S ASS, A FLYING SHIT, or ANY of the other highly descriptive epithets we can come up with, WHAT WE THINK OR FEEL OR WANT??? THIS CREATURE IS A “DICTATOR” IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD! A “MEDIA WHORE” WHO PIMPS HIS OWN LITTLE DAUGHTERS AT THE QUEER PARADES JUST TO GET FACE TIME! HE IS INDICATIVE OF THE TYPE OF ANIMAL WE ARE UP AGAINST. WE ARE FROGS IN THE SLOWLY COMING TO A BOIL POT OF WATER. THEY ARE TAKING OVER YOUR LIFE AND COUNTRY ONE STEP AT A TIME AND IT WILL NOT STOP. IF YOU THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS SITUATION WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT YOU ARE SORELY MISTAKEN. IT’S THE ONLY THING THEY FEAR……HENCE THE CONSTANT, NON-STOP BARRAGE OF LIES AND PROPAGANDA TURNED ON GETTING THEM. THE DAYS OF PHONE CALLS AND POSTCARDS AND PETITIONS AND DEMONSTRATIONS ARE LONNNNNNNG PAST.
…….Listen. And understand. That POLITITIAN is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are BROKE AND DEAD!!!!!
politicians like Cuomo, Schumer, Feinstein, Harris and the rest of the communist socialist democrats are NOT upholding their Oaths of Office. they should all be impeached, convicted of dereliction of duty and jailed.
BTW F*CK DENIRO
Cuomo is nothing more than a libtard shill that should be drawn & qurtered
Will never hold up in court. You can’t remove someone’s rights based on actions of another. Trying to confiscate guns from people is going to get people killed, including LEOs. Let Andrew Cuomo, his A.G. and the Chief of the N.Y. State police be the first 3 to line up to break down someone’s door to confiscate weapons, because any LEO with half a brain is not going to do it.
YEAH RIGHT… Then explain the NY S.A.F.E Law… This state does not give a crap about anyones “right” , they just do what ever they feel like ! You want to get it changed? Their answer is SUE US, then we will change it IF, you win ! Since they have unlimited funds and lawyers THAT WE PAY FOR, and you dont, they do this with impunity …. SO, please do not lecture us on what they cant do.
With repeated, and especially group “disobedience,” they will be powerless. Just look at what Ghandi did, and he and his followers weren’t even armed. To borrow leftist, commie talk–resist.
Water the tree of liberty.
His next step, if the troubled youth has an aunt, uncle, cousin, grand parent, neighbor that has firearms, they should be confiscated to keep them from the child.
Ever since Sandy Hook….I’ve been saying this for YEARS ….all to deaf ears. We cannot completely stop insane actions. But we can put a big dent in it. Here is my alternate proposal.
1.) Force all entry and exit into and out of the school…..through ONE set of doors….the primary entrance. Don’t allow entry from back doors or side doors ( no handle on outside) to still allow emergency exit.
2.) Don’t EVER publish that a school is a GUN FREE zone. That is simply the sheep telling the wolf ” Come here to get me”. Let the perp think ..”maybe there are armed people inside…maybe not”. Regardless if teachers are armed, not armed, or if there are trained armed security personnel there or not. Keep the perp guessing. Keep the option open, however, to get either teachers or security people to be armed. Bias the actions toward having an armed deterrent in-place.
3.) Metal detectors at the main entrance. Yep….like airports and (it seems) all local gov’t buildings I’ve visited. Seems the cost to do this is OK for gov’t and court buldings….but not to help protect our children from harm.
The concept of one entrance/exit sounds good, but folks would have to line up 1 to 2 hours before homeroom to get started on time if the school has more than a hundred students. Pocket contents would have to be emptied and returned as part of the process. If it’s done right, it’ll be as slow as getting onto the sterile concourse at the airport. Figure 20 seconds per student with backpack/purse. That’s three students per minute if nothing goes wrong to slow it down (some kids are as uncoordinated as I was at 14) and the conveyor belt doesn’t breakdown.
JOE STALIN
ADOLPH HITLER
ANDREW CUOMO
IS NOW ADDED TO THE LIST
SO LETS MAKE FRIENDS
INFORM ON FRIENDS
OR JUST LET YOUR CHILD
SPEAK UP. AND YOU LOSE
YOUR 2ND AMM RIGHTS
ANOTHER GOOD MOVE BY
ANDY BOY
I have a feeling that if this bill passes, being an officer with the New York State Police will become a lot more hazardous (sadly!)
It’s called accountability but these people want to make someone else accountable for another persons actions! We are all accountable for our own actions, no one else. If a teachers and staff can not even flunk and or suspend a student by Federal mandate given to schools, what makes you think they can get some student help before they go bonkers even though all the warning signs are there. People will always slip through the cracks, even the government cracks! No, let’s just go get their guns! That liberty tree is sure getting dry!
*ALL* tyrannical governments explain to their people that restrictions imposed on them are common sense restrictions needed for their own good.
One word : Gestapo
Got an over-active child, did the school reccomend Ritalin? BAM! No guns for you!
This is why the 2A people won’t compromise, there is always a “next level”. Every bill becomes the new normal upon which the next level restriction is built.
Another attempt to extend the gun grab. With this one, where does it end? Take mom & dads, how about grand parents, aunts & uncles, adult siblings living separately: if kid visits them. What about kids friends houses bet they want those guns too.
Also notice that with all the NY laws requiring firearms to be secured, there is no mention of actual access to firearms : just that they are in the dwelling. Typical bullshit from two directions: you got to lock up guns so kids can’t get them and now you can’t have them at all if some far Left ass hat has a problem with the way your kid acts. Remember, these are the same assholes that suspend kids for pro 2A and patriotic T-shirts.
I always wondered why the ACLU always steps in and files lawsuits when some undesirable does not get their way. They are in the business of pissing people off. Why aren’t they getting involved in second amendment rights being violated ? That would upset their liberals friends . Seems like something that they would enjoy.
Because the ACLU doesn’t really care about rights. If they did they would be pro-2A because gun control laws always impact the self-defense rights of honest law-abiding poor people most of all–those the ACLU is supposed to be standing up for.
You see, it’s actually the Americans Servile to Liberals Union.