Some gun control measures can be reasonably debated by pro and anti-gun proponents.
New York State Senate Bill S3444 isn’t one of them.
In a thinly veiled attempt to ban virtually every kind of handgun within New York State, lawmakers have proposed legislation that would prohibit gun companies from selling a firearm if it can be operated by an “average five year old child.”
Democratic Senator José M. Serrano introduced S3444 at a dead-serious press conference earlier this month. “One would think that this [legislation] should be common sense, that there should be no controversy over this,” Serrano said.
“There is no reason that a young child five years old should be able to have access to a weapon that he or she could fire,” he continued. “So we need to make sure that all weapons sold in the state of New York are not fireable by children this young.”
The bill doesn’t specify how strong its imaginary five-year-old might be, but it does provide several helpful requirements for gun companies who might be wondering how to manufacture a handgun that cannot be fired by a child.
First, gun companies must only sell handguns with triggers that can be adjusted to at least ten-pounds. Second, gun companies must “alter the firing mechanism so that an average fire year old child’s hands are too small to operate the pistol or revolver.” Finally, the legislation mandates that all handguns must be manufactured to “require a series of multiple motions in order to fire the pistol or revolver.”
Based on these suggestions, it isn’t clear that the bill’s authors have ever interacted with a handgun or a five-year-old child. A firearm manufacturer might follow all of these requirements and still be charged with a Class A Misdemeanor after any moderately intelligent child fired their full-sized handgun featuring a safety and ten-pound trigger pull.
But gun control proponents needn’t be afraid. The legislation goes on to stipulate that the Superintendent of State Police will work with the firearms manufacturers that “the Superintendent deems appropriate” to develop the full gamut of features that will prohibit five-year-olds from firing handguns.
Since the three aforementioned “safety mechanisms” wouldn’t actually stop a child from pulling a trigger, more “common sense” features will need to be developed.
And if no manufacture can develop a totally child-proof handgun? In that case, presumably, no handguns could be sold, delivered, or transferred within the state of New York.
The legislation is currently being considered by the Senate Codes Committee, which includes Serrano, six additional Democrats, and nine Republicans.
The last tidbit from me. Laws like this is how the anti-American libtards have been chipping away at the SECOND AMENDMENT for years! They keep adding small pieces of legislation, here and there and they will eventually nullify the 2nd. I call these GATEWAY laws because they always lead to more laws. It looks good to create a law to possibly save children’s lives! Who is gonna stand up against possibly saving kid’s lives? Then when WE and the NRA fight such laws the libiots want to demonize us.
Hey! Are these anti-American hypocrite, libiots going to stop collecting taxes on firearms sold in NY. What about the gun making companies in NY. Is NY making money off the “evil” gun industry!!! You libiots need to realize that you do not have the right to tell any law abiding AMERICAN CITIZENS how to live!! Alcohol, cigarettes, cigars, soft drinks, sugar/corn syrup, fatty foods, cakes, ice cream and automobiles kill millions every year and I don’t see the hypocrite libturds taking a stand against these industries! It’s petty to even bring up all the things that we love every day that are killing us but it’s the only way to equate things to the dumb ass pathetic liberal mind. All you everyday average liberals have been tricked into everything that your liberal masters tell you. You love and hate based on the agenda of super rich, anti-America, anti-democracy and anti-capitalism libiots!!! The same hypocrites that have taken advantage of freedom and money that they made from capitalism! These liberal monsters have gotten everything they can from being rich in a capitalistic Democratic society!! There’s only one thing left!!! TOTAL CONTROL!!! How do you get total control in this type of free society??? You win the hearts and minds of the easily brainwashed liberals! The same people that throw law, order and their freedom out the window when they get involved in an emotional headline!!! How does it feel to be a liberal and being used to destroy that which we need most to keep peace in the world??? This is why WE THE PEOPLE must set things right before crooks and treasonous trash like Soros, the Clintons, the Obama’s, the Hollywood hypocrites and all selfish, greedy, anti-American libiots destroy the greatness country in the world.
I love the guy standing behind him: checkered shirt, polka dot pocket square, blinding yellow tie. How can anyone take these clownish buffoons seriously, let alone vote for them?
Just when I thought I had seen the epitome of stupid, this dingbat came along.
There’s just no cure for stupid.
10 pound triggers mandated here in Massachusetts. We also have a gun lock requirement. The future is here already and it’s MAss gunlaws since 1998
forced on the other states.
obey
A simple solution to the problem of a 5 year old handling a firearm is the ones I was rasied with and raised my children and grand children with. First teach the child that real guns are not toys (kids are smart they can learn the difference if the parents are willing to teach them!). Second keep an auto loading pistol without a round in the chamber, when kids are old enough and strong enough to be able to chamber a round they should be old enough to understand gun safety rules.Third don’t hide the gun and not make it so tempting for the child to play with when they find it (and they will find it!). This is the way I was rasied and the way I raised my children and grand children and we have never had a problem with guns in the house.
Yep! These modern libiots are the most easily confused and brainwashed of all time! I can’t even recall in my rural county in Virginia, the last time a child that grew up around guns and was TAUGHT how to act and how to treat guns with respect was injured or killed by a gun. It’s always someone that picked up a gun that was never TAUGHT RESPECT! I was born in 1972. I grew up with loaded guns in every corner. My 4 kids grew up with loaded guns in every corner. They were TAUGHT from day one, what they could and couldn’t do. Guns were never idolized or treated like some great prize that the kids couldn’t touch. This usually leads kids to touching things if you tell them they can’t. I grew up and my kids grew up knowing that if they wanted to touch a gun or shoot, they needed only to ask. I got my first shotgun and started hunting at age 7 or 8. Around that time I got a .22 rifle! I always loved pistols and bought a black powder pistol around age 11. I got my first real pistol a year or so later. It was a 9 shot H&R .22. A couple years later I got a Ruger Mark II. Since then I’ve purchased quite a few guns and it’s a beautiful part of being FREE!!
One thing that liberals don’t or can’t understand is how WE FEEL ABOUT GUNS!! Some are family heirlooms. Some are gifts. Some are adult toys. Some are used for hunting. Some are used for protection. Some if not all are used for fun. Growing up with guns is the same as growing up with a friend or family member. I along with most gun owners consider guns to be friends and family!! When a liberal talks banning or more restrictions, it’s like asking us to get rid of a family member or a friend??? There’s a sense of freedom that only gun owners can understand. There’s a love or kinship that we feel with guns. It’s hard to explain and even harder for liberals to grasp. If they can even comprehend it at all? I like to leave this message at the end of my rant.
Hey liberals! Are y’all willing to die to take away guns from law abiding American citizens?? I can assure you, that I and most of the 180 million gun owners are more than willing to kill and die to protect the constitution and our civil rights! My children and their children deserve to have the same freedoms that I have had all my life. Anything less will not be tolerated!!! You liberals should move somewhere out of America where y’all can live in peace telling each other how they should live!!!
Vote out the nine Republicans who support this insane bill.
This people who think that they are chosen by a supreme been are the same who dedicated the puertorican parade to a terrorist machetero who was free by Obama. SHAME ON THEMSELVES. Don’t forget who they’re. I am very sorry for the good people of N.Y. State. Remember this persons when the election comes.
Sgt. IAF DPS PUERTO RICO
This persons (thugs) are the same who dedicated the puertorican parade to a machetero terrorist who was free by Obama. SHAME ON YOU.
Sagt. IAF PRPSD
I love Mr Serrano’s Plaid bow tie and speckled shirt – Does anyone in N.Y. feel happy paying this oddball’s salary a person that can’t even dress himself properly, but run around and wring his hands about a 5 year old mastering the art of firearms handling??
Sounds like discrimination to me, I do know people of small stature and others that have weak hands (one of those things that comes with old age). These issues alone would make this law in violation of the American Disabilities Act.
Are there really five year old’s packing heat, and if so, would this regulation stop them? The answer is NO and NO. New York like most states already has strict laws regarding the safe storage of firearms to keep them from children’s hands, so other than a way to ILLEGALLY regulate the gun manufactures, what is the purpose of this stupid proposal? Epic Fail NY.
What about people who don’t have children in their house?
What about gun locks?
What about gun safes?
Many, if not most, gun owners already have these factors in place and the gun design doesn’t need to change to be anymore safe.
I used to be amazed at the stupidity of liberal anti-gun nuts. Now I see it for what it is — greed. The ONLY reason elected politicians try to pass intellectually challenged laws such as this one is to get money and/or votes. That’s it. When a stupid law such as this is proposed the money flows. Enforcing existing laws garners no money for elected officials. Inventing new laws, however ineffective or ill-conceived, gets lobbying dollars flowing (on both sides by the way). Perhaps the most shameful approach they use is to get the money flowing by using the blood of children such as they did with Sandy Hook. These people are scum.
What we need to do is stop tossing out liberal this, liberal that on every article as if only liberals are the ones behind gun control. Pretty sure the article has more republicans in this committee than dems. So yeah, that means, whether you want to admit it or not, there are conservatives behind some of these pushes as well. Need to admit they are there and focus on ALL of them and not just one side.
I think the division of pre-crime prevention could serve the public in this regard. The pre-cogs could see the child about to pull the trigger and have my team zoom in and halo the mongrel killer. Sean!…Sean is that you? Put down the gun, Sean!
“Common sense” & “diversity,” catch-all words & phrases, have become that which I hate, spoken in the modern context. Obviously these individuals have never considered the possibility that a child might learn gun safety & be responsible at an early age. Bottom line is that these pathetic, empty shells of humanity fear death so passionately, they will do anything they possibly can to see it avoided; lobby for more gun laws, stand firm against the death penalty, & fight against abortion . . . No wait, they fight to kill the innocent, unborn in the womb don’t they? No hypocrisy there.
Liberal Politicians Slogan:
“None of us is as stupid as all of us”
It seems there is no end to the stupidity of these libtards who believe that more laws will make people less stupid / careless or violent criminals obey laws. Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? Well Mr. Serano is doing the same thing… again.
It’s a sad day when Fabio makes more intelligent public statements than our elected officials. What gives Mr. Serrano the right to punish firearms manufacturers who have not broken any laws? I’m sure the Serrano family emigrated to the US legally and can prove that, right?
Have much better Bill to vote
– ban all Democrats and their families, friends and security details from owning, using or even thinking about any guns !!!
(including rubber guns, water guns or even pictures of guns !)
. . . next up is “No person or persons that have children may own a firearm”
I find it amazing that people that have no knowledge of firearms are even allowed to attempt to pass legislation concerning them. Apparently, as soon as you become a politician, you’re suddenly given access to all the knowledge of the universe and are an expert on everything. Given NY state’s record of political corruption, however, I think the more likely scenario is that the state is trying to disarm honest citizens so that the politicians can feel more secure in their efforts to screw to public and take whatever they can for themselves. (Politics and taxes aren’t about money as much as they are about power.)
Welcome to another episode of “Are New York Democrats Smarter Than a Five Year Old”.
Maybe they need a Bluetooth interface to a keyboard with an algebra problem that must be solved by the user! That alone would make guns unwanted by the majority of kids regardless of age! Why didn’t the anti-gunners think of this before?