Under the “Closing the Bump-Stock Loophole Act,” reciprocating stocks would be considered NFA items.
Lawmakers introduced legislation this week that would add bump stocks and similar accessories to the National Firearms Act.
Known as the “Closing the Bump-Stock Loophole Act,” the bill would give the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) the power to regulate “a reciprocating stock, or any other device which is designed to accelerate substantially the rate of fire of a semiautomatic weapon” under the NFA.
In other words, purchasers of bump stocks would have to jump through all those annoying NFA hoops: registration, fingerprinting, background check, $200 tax stamp. Current owners of bump stocks would have one year from the bill’s enactment to do the same.
The “Closing the Bump-Stock Loophole Act” is the brainchild of Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA), Congressman Dan Kildee (D-MI), Congresswoman Dina Titus (D-NV) and Congressman Dave Trott (R-MI).
“Following the October tragedy in my district, I vowed to study and draft solutions with members on both sides of the aisle to prevent future acts of gun violence in our nation’s communities,” said Congresswoman Titus in a press release.
“Since then, Reps. Fitzpatrick, Kildee, Trott and I have developed a bipartisan bill to regulate bump stocks or similar devices the same as machine guns and the deadliest of weapons,” he continued.
“I believe the majority of Americans would agree: Anyone who wants a device that modifies a firearm to shoot hundreds of rounds per minute should undergo thorough background checks and oversight. Congress must take meaningful action to address this national epidemic. We cannot stand in silence any longer,” Kildee concluded.
SEE ALSO: Feinstein Introduces Bump Stock Ban Legislation with GOP Support
The Closing the Bump-Stock Loophole Act is not to be confused with Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s Automatic Gun Fire Prevention Act. Introduced last month, Feinstein’s bill would outright ban bump stocks, trigger cranks and other accessories.
Congressman Trott argued that his bill presents a better way forward than the other gun control legislation to pop up in the aftermath of the shooting.
“This bill ends the cycle of knee-jerk legislation, hastily thrown together in the wake of these all too common tragedies,” said Trott.
“Rather this is a proactive approach, that gives the ATF the regulatory flexibility it needs to hold these devices to the highest level of scrutiny while protecting Americans’ 2nd amendment right,” he added.
It appears the ATF agrees. Or, at least the ATF Association agrees, which is comprised of former and current ATF agents.
“We are grateful to Representatives Fitzpatrick, Kildee, Titus and Trott for introducing this proposal that will regulate these dangerous weapons under the National Firearms Act, and for recognizing the need for Congress to act to keep American communities safe,” said Michael Bouchard, President of the ATF Association.
“We urge Congress to support this bipartisan legislation and pass this bill,” he added.
SEE ALSO: NRA ‘We Did Not Say Ban, Confiscate Bump Stocks’
The National Rifle Association, which has called for “additional regulations” on bump stocks and has recommended that the ATF “immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law,” does not support this bill.
Jennifer Baker, a spokesperson for the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, told the Washington Free Beacon that the bill is “overly broad” and “not limited to bump stocks.”
Noting that the ATF approved the bump stock during the Obama administration, Baker went on to say that ATF already has all the power it needs to regulate bump stocks.
“The NRA has called for the ATF to review its decision and determine whether these devices should be regulated differently,” said Baker. “Despite the false assertions being made by anti-gun politicians and lobbyists, this is within ATF’s regulatory authority.”
As noted in a previous GunsAmerica article, former ATF employees have repeatedly said that the agency does not have the authority to apply additional regs.
Anyways, we’ll see what comes of this bill. Feinstein’s ban seems to have fallen by the wayside. But there were rumblings this week that some form of bump stock ban may be included in the omnibus, pro-gun SHARE Act. No word yet, though, if that will actually materialize.
Why did this privilege scumbag use firearms, he was a licensed pilot and owned airplanes, he could have loaded those planes up with explosives and propane and caused a much bigger event, there’s a refinery right next door Stone throw’s distance but you chose to use Firearms why? I think he accomplished the controversy about Firearms that he and his backers wanted! there’s more going on here than we think.
So do we have to chop off our fingers and thumbs or risk interment????????????? I bump fired long before these gadgets came out. And even then I saw it was a waste of ammo…!
There are no “dangerous weapons”. Only dangerous people. Focus on punishment of these, NOT John Q. Public who wants to have a little fun at the range. A$$Holes….
I would hope that at election/reelection time that WE The People know what to do to these guys with extreme prejudice. The ruling class has got to go. DRAIN THE SWAMP and MAGA.
Drain the swamp! Lol
You clearly aren’t reading or watching, any news, other than Fox. There are more billionaires and people who directly oppose the very organizations they are appointed to eversee than at any previous point in history. I’m sure you think that will result in a better outcome for you, if you actually paid attention, you’d see that isn’t the case.
SO… what new regulations are we writing in Congress to regulate rental trucks after the NYC attack?
I’m opposed to any new regulations, regulating anything to do with a gun period. I own several, have owned several for a number of years, and not once has any of them ever jumped out of the safe, ran to town, and harmed anyone. It is not the gun’s fault, and the rental truck attack in NYC proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that you can take guns away from the crazy SOBs and they are still going to kill people. You cannot regulate this problem away, there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop it, to attempt to do so is futile and serves only to leave the law abiding population defenseless, and totally dependent upon government, which is obviously time and time and time again failing us at every turn.
How does regulating the sale and possession of bump stocks and automatic weapons leave the general public defenseless? Have any of your guns jumped out of the safe, walked down the street, and affixed a bump stock to themselves? No? Seeming as without one you are defenseless, it’s a wonder you feel compelled to own any firearms at all. Your argument is without merit when weighed against your own statement.
Z, get a clue! Rocky is referring to the continuing liberal agenda where they chip away at ownership of ALL firearms by civilians. Their game is one of inches, if they get this latest b.s. passed, then they will go after something else to either ban or regulate. Meanwhile, this law would’ve done NOTHING to PREVENT the tragedy like Las Vegas. Criminals, terrorists and the mentally unstable will find a way to commit whatever act of evil they plan on perpetrating– case in point the latest NYC bike path murders. PASSING A LAW THAT DOES NOTHING IS THE SAME AS DOING NOTHING!! All of you better pay attention to what your elected officials are doing and vote accordingly. Especially you voters in MI, NV & PA.!!!!
President Trump has decreed that for every new law passed, two other laws must be cancelled. What two laws are going to be cancelled if this law is passed?
It’s not a law, it’s an expansion of regulatory authority. Read the article again.
Guess they’re gonna have to add belt loops to that loophole….
Say bye to binary triggers too… Again, this gives the ATF more power to decide what\’s what.Typical legislative overreaction BS. ONE dipshit, ONE incident and now this. Thank God he wasn\’t a competent shooter using a plain old AR15 with a good trigger and scope – many more would have been killed and \”assault weapons\” would again be on the chopping block again.
But one dipshit is considered an epidemic!
The most dangerous weapon is the human mind
The most dangerous of the dangerous…..the political “mind” (and I use the word “mind” loosely!!)
The impetus for the National Firearms Act of 1934 was the gangland crime of the Prohibition era, such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre of 1929, and the attempted assassination of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933.[1][2]:824[3][4] Like the current National Firearms Act (NFA), the 1934 Act required NFA firearms to be registered and taxed. The $200 tax was quite prohibitive at the time (equivalent to $3,581 in 2016). With a few exceptions, the tax amount is unchanged.[3][4]
Originally, pistols and revolvers were to be regulated as strictly as machine guns; towards that end, cutting down a rifle or shotgun to circumvent the handgun restrictions by making a concealable weapon was taxed as strictly as a machine gun.[5]
Conventional pistols and revolvers were ultimately excluded from the Act before passage, but other concealable weapons were not.[5] Regarding the definition of “firearm,” the language of the statute as originally enacted was as follows:
The term “firearm” means a shotgun or rifle having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length, or any other weapon, except a pistol or revolver, from which a shot is discharged by an explosive if such weapon is capable of being concealed on the person, or a machine gun, and includes a muffler or silencer for any firearm whether or not such firearm is included within the foregoing definition.[6]
Under the original Act, NFA weapons were machine guns, short-barreled rifles (SBR), short-barreled shotguns (SBS), any other weapons (AOW or concealable weapons other than pistols or revolvers), and silencers for any type of NFA or non-NFA. Minimum barrel length was soon amended to 16 inches for rimfire rifles and by 1960 had been amended to 16 inches for centerfire rifles as well.[7]
The United States Supreme Court, in 1968 decided the case of Haynes v. United States in favor of the defendant, which effectively gutted the National Act of 1934. As one could possess an NFA firearm and choose not to register it, and not face prosecution due to Fifth Amendment protections, the Act was unenforceable. To deal with this, Congress rewrote the Act to make registration of existing weapons impossible except by the government (previously, an existing firearm could be registered by any citizen). In addition to fixing the defect identified in Haynes, the revision tightened definitions of the firearms regulated by the Act, as well as incorporating a new category of firearm, the Destructive Device, which was first regulated in the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968.
NFA categories have been modified by laws passed by Congress, rulings by the Department of the Treasury and regulations promulgated by the enforcement agency assigned to known as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives or ATF.
Courtesy of Wikipedia.
Today it’s if you have one get a tax stamp. Once that law gets passed the liberal media will be exploiting how easy it is to get a tax stamp. SO don’t be surprised if tomorrows headline reads “It’s easier to get a Tax Stamp to Buy a Destructive Weapon than it is to buy a can of beans”.
The Las Vegas shooter was a multi-millionaire with no criminal record. The proposed law (to place bump stocks under the NFA) would have done nothing to prevent the shooter from acquiring a bump stock, or, while he was at it, an M60 or any other type of machine gun.
Aside from the details of this particular device, I find it aggravating that inventing/revising a product that complies with a restrictive law is consistently labeled in popular discussion with a pejorative, “This thing is just to exploit a loophole”. It seems to me, after judging a design against the requirements, either the device complies or it doesn’t. Where is the “loophole”?
Don’t let them take it away. Write you Congressman and senators to stop eroding our constitutional rights of the 2A.
A casual search of YouTube videos would show that you can achieve bumpfire rates of fire by using a rubber band! Some of these videos have been out there for six years or more. A sicko is going to find a way to do whatever he wants regardless of laws and regulations. These politicians are just grandstanding and wasting time and money when they should be concentrating on the real issues in this country. The furor over bumpstocks is much ado about nothing, churned up to chip away at our rights.
A shooter using a bump stock will run out of ammo faster and have to reload. The ATF is in favor of this legislation because it means an increase in its budget and number of employees. Not that they will add any to the section which processes the registrations. What if we suggest taking silencers out of the NFA so the fellow who puts the tax stamp on the registration paper will have more time to deal with the bump stocks?
This is the beginning of the end for semi auto rifles. Bump fire is semi auto depite what these clowns say. You still have to pull the trigger every time. I think the nation should start paying attention to whats happening here. Wake up brotatoes we are living under tyrants.
IF they come for mine, they better have their affairs in order.
Me thinks we have Karl Marx reading the board. Go home troll, I mean Karl you pansy
I think you need to look what happend to the only trew America’s when you took there weapons and you do not think. It will happen agane get rell
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I am an NRA member, I support this bill 100% the slide fire stock should never have made it through the ATF in the first place or any similar modification design for this purpose. You can not legally purchase the components to modify a semi-auto to an auto without a tax stamp. The slide fire is a work around 1934 firearms act pure and simple. Never should have passed the ATF in the first place.
The ATF didn’t have the authority to regulate it at the time of its creation. They don’t have the authority to regulate it now, which is what the proposed bill seeks to change. People act as though this is an outright ban of the item, which it’s not, but they don’t have much to say about the NFA of 1968 or the reason machineguns were regulated in the first place. Selective ignorance and excessive opinion are the rule of the land.
I am done with the NRA. This was a major misstep on their part. I can’t in good conscience be part of an association that supports chipping away at the 2A little by little. This was an opportunity for the NRA to continue to have another layer of insulation from the anti-gunners. All they have succeeded in doing is embolden the anti-gunners. I paid the NRA to protect gun rights not pacify the opposition. It is for this reason I will no longer support the NRA with money as they no longer represent my interests.
Yeah. The NRA is more than happy to call everyone for 500 dollar donations every couple of months saying “OMG! We have to fight now!”, but when it actually comes to doing their job they refuse. They just want your money so they can wine and dine whatever congressman they want without having to answer for it.
If u quit using NRA then you go out of here….don’t come back to comments here bye
Do not worry Charles Lord, once they get our semi automatic rifles banned and confiscated they will come for your guns later. You cannot compromise with these tyrants. Look at New York and California. The Second Amendment is nearly gone in these States. This is what will eventually happen to us if you give in and “compromise” with tyrants.
A free citizen is armed. Subjects are disarmed.
Like the NRA , you are willing to sell your soul to appease the Left, not grasping that they want to take everything away and won’t be happy until they do. The bump fire is legal and should stay that way. Might as well ban people’s fingers. If I put a short reset kit in a sig sauer, is that making it shoot faster, thus illegal?
Charles Lord, apparently you’ve never fired a fully automatic weapon, so let me educate you that bump stocks are not a “work around”. They don’t work the same way and aren’t as accurate or reliable in full auto fire as a select fire weapon. They are a gimmick and waste of ammo but you know what? You give in to another b.s. law that accomplishes nothing and you’re just giving up another freedom. Then they’ll try to ban or regulate something else. Wake up people! And stop this stupid “I’m an NRA member” statements. Any person ignorant of what it actually means to have a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution can buy an NRA membership like this moron Charles Lord. Just because you’re an NRA member doesn’t mean you know what you’re talking about!!!
So here we go with another knee jerk law that won’t do anything but take another chip away from our rights by regulating an accessory. The fact is this is based on completely unsubstantiated media bias…. The left wing media wins again….
Please write your congressman, and if your an NRA member, call the NRA. Tell them you do not support this bill, period! Don’t give them an inch, they will take that mile, again…. Remember the 94 crime bill and 10 years of 10 round magazine capacity restrictions….
A tax stamp will not stop crazy’s from doing harm to anyone. There are possibly millions of bump fires out there and there has only been one incident. Don’t get me wrong it makes me sick to see what happened. But why not ban Home Depot rental trucks like the one use to kill 8 people this week–that would be almost as dumb. The politicians will go to any length to take away your gun rights. How about banning crooked Senators and Congressmen–like the Kennedy’s and Clintons—how many have been killed in their wake? How about illegal aliens–how many innocents have died because of them–but you don’t hear crap about getting rid of the Dumb-o-crat votes that they have in their pockets.
I could go on but I’m sure you all get my drift. When I bought my bump fire several years ago a letter from the ATF stating that is LEGAL TO OWN came with it–the letter was given to the manufacture and they copied it and sent it with each stock–now all of a sudden they want to re-nig and ban them.
How about dhe swamp creatures concentrate on something that will work instead of a half baked knee jerk reaction that probably will never pass just so they can scream from the pulpits “I TRIED BUT THE ——–(whatever)
All about disarmament that’s what COMMUNIST do in order to control you the masses!
This is the only reported time that a bump stock has been used to cause harm and now the NRA and the left want to restrict its ownership, so next week if a Glock 19 is used in a crime, do we put them on the restricted list too? If our weak spine Republicans join the Democrats on gun control, then why should we continue to support them in the future? President Trump wants CWP holders to be able to enter New York or Illinois without being arrested, but yet Paul Ryan won’t allow that bill to move in the House, he needs to go.
So automatic weapon are now the rights of gun owners? You seem to forget the rights of the dead and wounded on Vegas. Shame on you.
The wild west is gone Sir.
I think you need to look what happend to the only trew America’s when you took there weapons and you do not think. It will happen agane get rell
Hey A-hole why dont you educate yourself. Why are you even here? Troll.
Yes, automatic weapons are legal and as long as my PD has them, I will too whether legal or not. And I dare them to come take them.
One would suggest that people read the Second Amendment first and realize the “Arms” described therein were considered top-of-the-line MILITARY arms at the time the Second Amendment was written. Yeah, the old “front loading flintlock” was, at the time of the Second Amendment’s writing, the standard military issue virtually everywhere.
The phrase “Well regulated Militia” did not mean a law-controlled Militia, it meant a well TRAINED Militia. You see, the term “Regulated” could either mean “legally controlled” or “trained to stand, fire, and reload” in the same manner of a Regular* group of soldiers. Yes, Regular and Regulated meant trained and persists today in the terms “Regular Forces” (Trained Military, usually an Army) and “Irregular forces” (Untrained Military, usually acting as Guerrilla forces and not trained to function as a group). Madison knew whereof he wrote; it’s the word parsing modern legislators who play word games and think that “Well Regulated” means they have a clear road into controlling firearms and the people who use them.
It is not out of the question that Mr. Madison intended these Militias to not only serve as emergency protection in the towns of his new nation, but to also be a check on that nation’s government, should it become onerous and power hungry. We can refer there to Mr. Jefferson’s declaration that “Governments exist through the consent of the Governed,” and that should a Government prove to be harmful to the needs of the People, those same People had a responsibility to “alter or abolish” that government and to replace it with one more attuned to the wishes of the governed.
The obvious means of accomplishing this end would be the Well Regulated Militia (should the Regular Army decide to support the Government and not the Constitution) acting as the means of governmental correction.
If one studies the times and the people of the era of the Constitution, these things become obvious. The idea was that the People would keep track of their government and either by word, vote, or force cause their Government to serve their interests and not the interests of any particular class or group.
That was the idea…at least…
So the whole idea that our forefathers wanted us to be able to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government is totally lost on you.
As for your argument about flint locks….that was the technology at the time. If they were writing The Constitution today they would want us to have the same arms the government has. They would think flintlocks against M16 as silly as Americans who hate the 2A.
Thanks for using your psychic powers to go back in time and tell us what the “idea” was. The truth is you are to scared to understand the true idea behind the constitution. They did not want a government as strong as it has become, that was the “idea”.
The “idea” was NEVER AGAIN!
Well written, however, “alter or abolish” isn’t solely dependent upon use of force. “A well regulated militia” is a reference to the British Regular Infantry and their rifles, which non military citizens of the day were not permitted to own. In that context, “a well regulated militia” means equipped with modern military grade rifles. Yes, the second amendment literally says that it’s necessary for the citizens to have military grade rifles in order to form, “a well regulated militia”.
I added a common sense commit and was awaiting moderation ? hey Guns digest, stop sending me emails, I will never ever buy another firearm for you facist pigs.
Another senseless knee-jerk reaction?
I think bumpfire stocks are silly juvenile toys. But to each his own.
If the NRA continues to back this nonsense I will not ever give them another penny
Hey ! Do you think any of those RINO’s in DC could get this (popular-at-this-time) legislation attached to the Suppressor bill ??? That’d be a compromise I could go for !!!
I’m afraid, though, that in McConnell & Ryan’s Army… It’s all about Retreat, & Never Attack !!!
Agreed, make suppressors non NFA and I am fine with it.
Once again the people entrusted with our laws choose to ignore the fool and blame the tool.
There is no such thing as a drunk car, angry gun, or common sense in Washington..
You folks in the districts represented by these congressmen need to clog up their phones, mail boxes and e-mail accounts with as much as you can stand to send opposing this nonsense. Until they hear from you they will assume you are all for these new laws. All the politicians want is to be re-elected, if there is a fear of losing a vote they will back off. So get up off the couch and do something or you will lose your rights.
So automatic weapon are now the rights of gun owners? You seem to forget the rights of the dead and wounded on Vegas. Shame on you.
The wild west is gone Sir.
Automatic weapons have always been part of the rights of the people (gun owners). Read the Second Amendment. You do have to realize that bump and slide fire stocks are not firearms, they are accessories, and do not turn the semiauto rifle they are attached to into a machine gun. The triggers are still pulled each time a shot is fired.
As to the rights of the dead and wounded in the Las Vegas shooting, sorry, their rights do not outweigh mine or those of the hundreds of millions still living. My sincerest condolences go out to all of the victims, their families, and their friends but I refuse to give up any part of any of my rights because of a heinous act committed by an individual.
The Wild West was never the Wild West. It was/is the Old West. Contrary to what you see in movies, TV shows, dime novels of that era, and many of the pulp novels of today, the Old West was boring, dreary, and dirty. You did not have blood continuously running in the streets from gunfights or banks being robbed daily.
Please learn the actual history of that time period.
LOL, a bump stock is not an automatic weapon, nor is a rifle with one on it. That is equivalent to saying auto spell makes you a genius. Both very false.
“Following the October tragedy in my district, I vowed to study and draft solutions with members on both sides of the aisle to prevent future acts of gun violence in our nation’s communities,” said Congresswoman Titus in a press release.
“Since then, Reps. Fitzpatrick, Kildee, Trott and I have developed a bipartisan bill to regulate bump stocks or similar devices the same as machine guns and the deadliest of weapons,” he continued.
“I believe the majority of Americans would agree: Anyone who wants a device that modifies a firearm to shoot hundreds of rounds per minute should undergo thorough background checks and oversight. Congress must take meaningful action to address this national epidemic. We cannot stand in silence any longer,” Kildee concluded.
These politico’s are typical of the losers who just have to do something whenever some sort of violent crime is brought to the public forefront. Let’s overlook for the moment that these mental midgets have no ability to legislate human behavior, that bad things have been happening to good people ever since Cain slew Abel! So these clowns decide that ratcheting down on the Constitutional rights of good law abiding people will show everyone how moral and caring these bags of wind are. If these idiots really want to be honest about what’s just happened they’d admit that things like this happen everywhere there are people living within close proximity to each other, and that it’s an absolutely awful thing when it does. We should be reaching out to help these people who are going through a terrible loss. Politicians taking out their emotional anger on those folks who bear absolutely no responsibility at all is shameful. These clowns don’t deserve to be office holders, representing a constituency that they feel needs to be sanctioned just so they can campaign on a useless piece of legislation. It’s time to fire these boneheads!
I could give a rat’s ass about what they do with bumpfire stock.
I think bump fires are stupid myself. However it’s the principle of them regulating any “rate increasing devices” when there is no standardized rate. My figure can be a rate increasing device for that matter. It opens up the doors for a slippery slope of lost freedom.
Thank you 🙂
Just because YOU DONT OWN one is no reason to NOT CARE about your fellow Americans right to own one.Think twice before gladly relinquishing anyones gun rights.
When will the morons in DC try to take or over regulate something YOU OWN??
Those of us who value the freedom of choice to own or not own a bump stock do not give a rat’s ass about your anti- choice opinion.
So a $200 tax stamp resolves the bump stock issue? What about the belt loop? Got a $200 tax stamp for all pants with those accessories in the works too? It’s all about taking decent, law abiding peoples money. Why don’t we see any effort to curb gun violence in Chicago? Why don’t they put a stamp on that?
Congress doesn’t legislate Chicago, they do however have the authority to decide what the ATF regulates. It’s always a bit strange to see someone shout about government overreach and at the same time suggest government should act in regards to gun violence in an American city.
This law will be a big financial winner for the people that currently have bump stocks. Pay the $200 and you have something that can be resold a few years down the road for several times more. The law will likely result in higher quality and intervention in the devices. I carried a M60 machine gun in the Infantry . I can see why non Vets may want one as they are fun to fire. They also go through more than $200 in ammo in less than a minutes. The current $200 stamp is chump change if this is the toy you want. As for the 2nd, the SCOTUS ruled in the 1930s that it applies to the arms that the Rifleman will carry in an Infantry Squad. Not crew served weapons. That is a M4 today.
Can someone purchase a real M4 from FN or Colt right now current production no modifications from mil spec?
Nope.
How about under barrel grenade launchers and explosive rounds for them?
We need universal background checks on all truck buyers/renters, a 10 day cooling off period, a ban on automatic transmissions or speed shifters and a 10 gal fuel tank limit. If we get rid of these assault trucks we can keep people from being run down. And yes, it is just as silly when you replace truck with gun.
Soon to be victims of loss gun right and driving rights. Will only be limited to self driving cars and tasers. That will be a sad day when they come for my firearms and my Chevelle.
More paranoid communist domination and control. Think BATF will go easy on us with broader powers of discretion? HELL NO – not after the NRA’s last statement. This bullshit will never stop until we get rid of the communists in our government.
The nra is the enemy of the second amendment and freedom.
You are so full of it.
The NRA is the strongest voice we have for our rights. Even the most aggressive and effective generals realize that some battles need to be avoided because they will just be wasting their troops lives and material resources.
You pick your battles. You don’t let your enemies pick them for you.
The bottom line is they want gun registration for confiscation.Let’s stop dancing around the issue!
They’ll settle for registration first, since it is alway a prerequisite to confiscation.
Poor and very old excuse, shame on you!!
The Nationals firearms Act of 1934 has nothing to do with registration. Adding bump stocks or mechanical rate of fire increasing devices to the list of things regulated by the ATF has nothing to do with registration. Educate yourself.
Looks like momentum for this type of law is losing steam. Watch for the anti-gunners to attach it to another piece of legislation, though.
It’s not a law. Anti-gunners aren’t pushing it. It’s an expansion/addition of the devices covered by the NFA of 1934 and it’s a joint proposal by two Democratic and two Republican members of Congress. If you don’t know the facts you can’t work to change anything.
Anyone that pushes for this expansion of the NFA to include anything that aids in the rate of fire is by definition an “anti-gunner.” The Republicans that are pushing for this are turncoats!
Take suppressors off an you can add bump stocks and your keyboard to the list, fine by me.
Just yet another infringement to come about because government wants control, control, control! Looks like the tree of liberty needs watering!
Not only the bump stock would make a honest person a criminal within a year. Also drop in trigger assemblies, Binary triggers and the like. I am sure HI capacity mags are in there somewhere too. Please do not let this pass.
“Current owners of bump stocks would have one year from the bill’s enactment to do the same.
The “Closing the Bump-Stock Loophole Act” is the brainchild of Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA), Congressman Dan Kildee (D-MI), Congresswoman Dina Titus (D-NV) and Congressman Dave Trott (R-MI).”
I know the GOA will fight this, they have been no compromise on these issues.
I can do without dump stock I used many years it’s for fun at outside range than one bullet a time its kind of bored lol … But I am not interested kill people with that .. if criminal with a gun in criminal’s hand and tired to enter my business or house. I would do.. just fun to kill robbers ..
So does this mean they are reopening the Machine gun registry? Right now under current law no civilian can register new machine guns under 922 (o)(2)(b). If the Machine gun registry is not reopened then this is just a full on ban and they are all lying to us. I cant find a copy of the bill so I do not know for certain
Yet when I go on YouTube there are plenty of videos on how to bumpfire without a bumpfire stock. Seems to be a money grab to fleece more citizens and add more red tape to solve an epidemic problem that we do not have.
Yes, I can bump fire (it is simply a technique a person can do with ANY semi=automatic)
and I can fire just as rapidly as with a bump stock.
The only difference is I could be slightly more accurate with the bump stock on.
Of course, rapid fire it not very accurate with any firearm.
YET MORE Legislation for something that does absolutely NOTHING except make criminals out of innocent people.
How uncommon, to see such rational, considerate and mannerly bill – bipartisan, at that! – put forward for a common-sense approach to close a loophole through the appropriate means and within jurisdictional limits. There is no chance for such a level-headed idea such as this to make it through Congress, they are just too fractured and partisan even for rare instances of bi-partisan approaches like this to fix widespread problems like gun violence.
What rational, considerate and mannerly bill should we infringe upon to your 1st amendment right to even use that computer and internet?? Troll me thinks!
Indeed Sir. We do not need any “rational, considerate and mannerly bill” that INFRINGES yes that pesky word that was inserted into the 2nd Amendment because our forefathers knew the ruling class would do exactly what they are trying to do now.
Troll or retard.
Are you remotely familiar with the NFA of 1934 or why it was implemented?
E-yep… My sentiments exactly, BlueDog…
There is nothing common sense about it.
I can bump fire (it is simply a technique a person can do with ANY semi=automatic)
and I can fire just as rapidly as with a bump stock.
The only difference is I could be slightly more accurate with the bump stock on.
Of course, rapid fire it not very accurate with any firearm.
YET MORE Legislation for something that does absolutely NOTHING except make criminals out of innocent people.
Wide spread problem like gun violence? Are you serious? Gun control legislation is about controlling the population of the
citizenry, not saving lives, politicians care about themselves, and money.
Average gun deaths in the US 2011 through 2015 according to the CDC 33,880 of which 11,500 homicide 21,000 suicide.
Tragic for all involved, I am saddened by every death and how families are torn apart. but that is an average of 93 a day.
Deaths by cigarettes per year average 480,000 or more than 1300 a day.
Gun control advocates say guns are only good for one thing, killing.
Cigarettes are only good for one thing, killing.
Cigarettes stimulate the economy in the hundreds of billions of dollars. Multiple industries make billions on cigarettes. Healthcare facilities, cancer research, taxes, (actual cigarette production and farming create minimal jobs only about 60,000), contributions to politicians, insurance companies, the list goes on.
Politicians do not care a bit about the American public. If they did, the president could ban cigarettes with an executive order, or the FDA, ATF, the USDA, or the congress could outlaw cigarettes with no constitutional issues at all.
If it was about American deaths, ban cigarettes.
Cigarettes are a Wall Street and government money maker to the tune of billions per year.
“This bill ends the cycle of knee-jerk legislation, hastily thrown together in the wake of these all too common tragedies,” said Trott.
“Rather this is a proactive approach, that gives the ATF the regulatory flexibility it needs to hold these devices to the highest level of scrutiny while protecting Americans’ 2nd amendment right,” he added.
These four “representatives” from two northern and a western DNC state are Orwelllian operative liars. Paddock didn’t use a bump stock, because they do not function when fired from the prone position using a bi-pod.