The American people deserve to live free from the horror of gun violence.
— Rep. Lucy McBath (@RepLucyMcBath) June 3, 2024
The #GOSAFEact honors our constitutional rights while keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them. Thank you @SenatorHeinrich and @SenAngusKing for your partnership.
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Back in November, Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM) introduced the GOSAFE Act.
Officially known as the Gas-Operated Semi-Automatic Firearms Exclusion Act, it proposes a sweeping ban on semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines.
Yes, it seeks to put all AR and AK platforms on the chopping block. It also aims to outlaw magazines with a capacity over 10 rounds.
This week, Rep. Lucky McBath (D-GA) brought it to the House for consideration.
“I’m thrilled that my GOSAFE Act has been introduced in the House by Congresswoman Lucy McBath— a fierce advocate and leader in the fight to tackle gun violence,” said Heinrich in a press release obtained by GunsAmerica.
“I firmly believe we must uphold the laws that protect safe and responsible gun ownership. This legislation accomplishes that, while preventing firearms that are inherently dangerous and unusually lethal, designed for maximum harm, from falling into the hands of individuals who pose a threat to themselves or others,” he added.
GOSAFE Act Background (per Heinrich)
The GOSAFE Act focuses on the inherently dangerous and unusually lethal nature of gas-operated semi-automatic weapons, rather than cosmetic features. If enacted, the bill would regulate the sale, transfer, and manufacture of these weapons by:
- Establishing a list of prohibited firearms.
- Preventing unlawful modifications of permissible firearms.
- Mandating that future gas-operated designs are approved before manufacture.
- Preventing unlawful firearm self-assembly and manufacturing.
Of course, Bloomberg’s minions are applauding the GOSAFE Act’s reemergence.
“As weapons of war have become commonplace in America, so has the unfathomable carnage they wreak on our communities,” said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety.
“We applaud Representative McBath for introducing innovative legislation that would regulate assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, which are capable of creating devastating destruction in an instant,” Feinblatt continued.
“We urge Representative McBath’s colleagues to pass this bill before yet another community is forever scarred by someone filled with hate and armed with an AR-15,” he concluded.
GunsAmerica reached out to the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the firearms industry trade association, for comment.
“NSSF flatly rejected this legislation as clearly unconstitutional when Senator Heinrich introduced it last year and does so again with Representative McBath’s bill,” said Mark Oliva, NSSF’s managing director of public affairs.
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“This legislation isn’t just unacceptable; it is openly defiant and hostile to the rights guaranteed to law-abiding citizens through the Bill of Rights,” Oliva continued.
Oliva further argues that the proposed GOSAFE Act is unconstitutional because it attempts to ban an entire class of firearms, which the Supreme Court’s Heller decision prohibits.
He highlights the long history and widespread ownership of semiautomatic firearms and standard-capacity magazines in the U.S., maintaining that their common use further invalidates the legality of such a ban under existing Supreme Court standards.
“Today, there are over 28.1 million MSRs in circulation and at least 717.9 million magazines with a capacity exceeding 10 rounds,” Oliva observed.
Indeed. For anyone aiming to reel in firearms that are now a fixture in American life, even ignoring the legal issues, just from a logistical standpoint, they’ve definitely got their work cut out for them.
Safe (forgive the pun) to say, the cat’s outta the bag!
As always, stay tuned for updates.
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Sharon you flatulent commie sympathizer, you start off criticizing the gun community and ultimately the second amendment and then inform us that you are a gun owner and a CCA holder. How many rounds does your CCA allow you to bring into action at a moments notice? 2, 6, 13, 33? Maybe you carry a flintlock from days gone by. But what freedom really boils down to is the fact that a person has the right to defend himself with reasonable certainty against whatever threat he or she should encounter. But what if said person should encounter an entire mob of people hellbent on destroying everything in their path? Your one shot might be best used on yourself (kinda like soldiers at the battle of the Little Bighorn did to save themselves from the reality of torture that was going to be implemented on them by their adversaries). How big an ol gun do you need to stop the biggest threat that you might encounter? How many rounds will you need to hold off that opposing force? But who is the person or agency that allows you to make that decision? Under the 2nd amendment, we have the right to choose what we use to defend home hearth and ourselves with reasonable small arms to give ourselves the best chance of survivability. I bet the militia that gathered to defend a place called Breeds Hill (ie. Bunker Hill) wished they had had bayonets and bayonet training when they encountered an opposing force that had them and knew how to use them! Your thinking is flawed in this respect. You want to take away our right to defend ourselves or to severely hamper it by dictating what you perceive as a lesser evil and confine us to a single or double barrel shotgun. Uncle Joe would be so proud of you!!! Adolf Hitler used gun confiscation and police ( Gestapo ) to disarm and then murder millions of innocent people. You sound like you’d have volunteered to help round up any of those folks who would have opposed the will of that evil despot. It also sounds like you are trying to subtly persuade us that we should just give up these nasty evil back guns that hold so many evil despicable rounds of ammo so that next time we’ll give all our peaceful well regulated single barreled fowling pieces to conclude our ability to defend our selves against armies of paid mercenaries who will not be hindered in their choice, amount of ammo or type of weapon they will use to herd us into the death camps of their truly evil intentions.
There are bastards and bastard-carts bent on flipping their noses up at the US Constitution and the past rulings by SCOTUS. Using Kamala’s “root cause analysis” we see that most of the folks with left leanings have been programmed by NEA strategic programs in school and academia, with further intense brainwashing at the university level.
“What are you willing to do?” Sean Connery asks Kevin Costner in “THE UNTOUCHABLES”………….
Yes indeed, what are you willing to do????
“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” Jefferson, who wrote the Declaration of Independence, did believe in rebellion, and some of his letters convey that sentiment.
“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive,” he wrote in 1787. “It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere.”
But Jefferson never said the far more pithy, “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.”
These are the kind of evil tyrants our founding fathers warned about. This person has absolutely no business whatsoever in an elected official position. Her overwhelming stupidity is only overshadowed by her utterly absent knowledge of the Constitution and Bill of RIghts. She is an embarrassment to the United States of America and everything for which it stands. What a shame.
Molon labe, beeyotch!
Blame the NRA, and gun industry. They’re the ones who convinced enough people they had to have MSR’s to sell 28 million of them. (While they laugh thier way to the bank) People in cities and suburbs who think it’s fine to use a 3200fps projectile (that was designed to pierce combat helmets of the time, and inflict through wounds to draw out more solders to aid there screaming friend) for home defense. Then the gun industry comes up with bump stocks, forced reset triggers, binary triggers and wide open triggers for all the Yahoos that further spoiled it for the responsible gun owner. Inventories of everything (mags, ammo) got too insane. It’s insane already that the U.S. has 5% of the world’s population, and 50% of the world’s privately owned firearms. We’ll live just fine getting that number down, even though it will take years, maybe decades.
Do us a favor and hang yourself.
I’ll supply the rope …
I agree that the NRA and gun industry hold some responsibility, but its not for your illogical, and lawfully flawed arguments. Perhaps you should read the Constitution, and understand it in its entirety.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 15 REQUIRES, at minimum, ALL able bodied men to be fully armed, and capable of ‘executing the Laws of the Union, suppressing Insurrections, and repelling Invasion’. It’s a matter of law that the NRA ignores because if we were to adhere to that commanded by both federal and state law, the gun control issue would be dead. Many of its proponents, Moms Demand Action, behind bars for, at least, sedition, and as I outlined in an article I wrote some years back “A Case Of Treason”.
The real problem is the lack of knowledge, ambivalence, and greed on the part of those who have a vested interest in promoting the argument instead of winning. As far as the gun industry goes, I have to conclude that they must be under some pressure from government, because I can’t believe that they are so stupid as to ignore the most critical power listed in the Constitution. A power that would greatly expand their business; “that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. ‘A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline.’ And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.” U.S. v Miller, 307 U.S. 174
If we maintained OUR Militia, as REQUIRED by Law, crime on the streets, and in the halls of government would be greatly reduced. Unfortunately, most lack the willingness to maintain liberty and freedom, and others have no intellectual desire to learn from the errors of the past, such as the more than TWO HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION people, (Documented), who were murdered by governments, in genocidal atrocities, in the last Century.
Good one, but you missed the subsequent National Defense Act of 1916, where “militia” come under the control of the Federal Government. At that point, the word was redefined to mean those enlisted in the National Guard. And ironically, here is the result of U.S. v Miller: “The Supreme Court reversed the district court, holding that the Second Amendment does not guarantee an individual the right to keep and bear a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun.” Interesting, huh? In the Supreme Court case Heller, Justice Scalia noted: “Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. [It is] not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.” We ALL still have our 2A rights.
Let’s start with a fact that permeates up from Alexander Hamilton’s Federalist Paper #78 through court cases. In Norton v Shelby County, 118 US 425, the court said; “An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.”
The problems with quoting the National Defense Act of 1916 are numerous. Here are a couple. Foremost, if you read the Dick Act, from which the NDA stems, very carefully, you’ll find that the government attempted to mitigate the fact that the People were refusing to perform their Constitutional Duty to be in the Militia, which has historical and statutory form and function. And as we know, or at least I do, the court states numerous times, we rule by “What *** those who framed and adopted [the Constitution] underst[oo]d [its] terms to designate and include”, “the sense in which [the words were] generally used by those for whom the instrument was intended”, “the common parlance of the times in which the Constitution was written”, and the “accepted meaning [of the words] in that day.”
Here are those cases:
Pollack v. Farmers Loan and Trust Company, 157 US 429, 558
Ogden v. Saunders, 25 U.S. 213, 332
US v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association, 322 US 533, 539
Scott v. Sanford, 60 U.S. 393, 418
The minute changes made in those acts, Dick and Defense, were designed to obfuscate, and diminish the rule of law. What you believe can not be unless the Constitution is amended in at least 3 different places, the Bill of Rights, and also, every state in the Union, which also have their own set of Militia statutes. With the exception of Hawaii.
Read Miller in its entirety. Justice McREYNOLDS is very clear in what he wrote, and in attempting not to declare the NFA unconstitutional. “In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a ‘shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length’ at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.” At the time, short barreled shotguns were not in use anywhere, and there was some complaints arising out of WWI about the use of shotguns, at all, in warfare. They were actually prohibited for a period of time.
National Guard cannot be Militia as defined in law and history. However, there was no final outcome to Miller as he died prior to the case going any further.
The National Guard was created under the authority of Congress at Article I, Section 10, Clause 3, which allowed the states to “keep *** Troops of War” in time of peace. Reading, once again from Justice McREYNOLDS opinion of the court, he notes distinction; “set in contrast with Troops which they were forbidden to keep without the consent of Congress.” Congress had no authority, whatsoever, to grant the Guard the status of being Militia. The Guard is an excuse from both sides of the argument.
The Guard is an adjunct of the Army, and therefore would violate “Posse Comitatus” if we were to completely abandon the Constitutional requirement at Article I, Section 8, Clause 15, and thereby turn over to a “standing army” such power.
As far as function of Militia, the state statutes outline the requirements of men to be armed with a good rifle, sufficient ammunition, and accoutrements to perform their duties. In colonial times, Militia typically had superior weapons to the Regular army. Militia also had armories from which they could draw weapons such as cannon. There was also Naval Militia, which included ships of war that NY still had in operation as late as the early 1970’s. I’ve been to the armories, and the ships. They were still active when I served.
I could go on, but what would be the point. Suffice it to say, and I can’t remember who stated that given the choice between liberty and tyranny, the majority will always choose tyranny.
Some of your points are contradicting, so I can’t be sure where you stand. Do you agree that a militia is as you said, “A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline”?
BTW, Sharon, how much “blame” do you place at the feet of the “entertainment” industry, BIG PHARMA and the CIA for the violence problems in the US? Rhetorical question, you cannot respond to anything I say but I noticed that Nicholas stumped you pretty well.
Actually, I just read his comment now. And I blame many violence/hate/discord problems in the U.S. on foreign disinformation campaigns. Russia is have far too much success with it here!
You gotta be kidding me Nicholas!!! This chipy cricket, Sharon, just walked all over you. She just said that militia has been redefined and is now the National Guard “under the control of the Federal Government.” And you stood down. I would hate to see the sad sack militia that you are commanding and Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., A.M., A.B., Ph. D., J.D., would surely be ashamed of you if he ever saw what you let sharon get away with.
Never saw her comment, but I’ll comment now.
Now you are using Colion noir’s stats to try and make your points even though you criticized the man and his numbers. Make up you mind.
Who kills more people around the world, armed private civilians or the military forces?
Do you have a problem with the CHOMO in the WH, that some people call the POTUS, who abandoned $7.1 billion in U.S.-funded military equipment into fall in the hands of the Taliban who is selling all those arms around the globe?
Please tell me, what specific rifle and pistol ammunition a ” responsible gun owner” should be using?
Please explain the Geneva Convention’s position on ammunition “(that was designed to pierce combat helmets of the time, and inflict through wounds to draw out more solders to aid there screaming friend)”?
Those stats are accurate, it doesn’t mean all are. For you to be incapable of understanding the logistics of recovering military equipment in the middle of a war is boggling. But since you confirmed that you swallow B.S. propaganda whole (calling Biden a CHOMO), I have as much interest in further engaging you as I would a flat earther waving his arms on a street corner.
Under the agreement with the Taliban and Trump, Bagram Airport was intended to remain in US control and military equipment could have been shipped out or destroyed from that strategic point. Instead, your fake POTUS (genuine POS) was in a hurry to get the US in a proxy war with Russia and after 20 years he rushed out with a few disasterous drone strikes So while the US (under the fake POUTUS) was pushing for a quick exit through Kabul airport with dangerous Afghans hitching up for the ride. In the confusion, 11 Marines, 1 Army and a Navy Corpsman were killed and an untold number were injured by a terrorist bomb. The surving Marines were ordered by the fake POTUS to clean up the human fecal matter that the thousands of Afghans expelled while wating for days to come to the US. The fake POTUS wanted the Taliban to have a clean airport after all that and he no respect for the members of the military Look it up.
The shower the old pervert took with his daughter was recorded by Ashley Biden in her diary when she was a young child and is written up in a book Alex Marlow. Where is the suit for libel? The truth is an absolute defense. The FBI confiscated the diary from Project Veritus (sp?) and the charges and lack of charges prove the authenticity of the ownership and all the writing in Ashley’s diary.
Noticed you vowed to no longer engage in communication before answered all the questions like on the ammo (fps?) a ” responsible gun owner” should be using. Can you honor your vow and NOT respond to me ever again?
“Actually, I just read his comment now. And I blame many Actually, I just read his comment now. And I blame many violence/hate/discord problems in the U.S. on foreign disinformation campaigns. Russia is have far too much success with it here!in the U.S. on foreign disinformation campaigns. Russia is have far too much success with it here!”
No surprise that the hobgoblin Russia would be blamed while China and Mexico flood the southern border with fentynyl and violent illegal aliens and this CIA puppet WH is fine with the death wave. Betcha missed the CIA OPs in Russia with the “violence/hate/discord problems” like the ‘Pussy Riots.’ Betcha missed it when CIA crime family member Barry Soetoro’s Administration had the duly elected leader of THE Ukraine overthrown and had a vulgar, lame ‘comedian’ emplaced to destroy the peace among the Christian Slavs. Betcha missed it when the Russian people in the Crimea were totally cut off from all regional water sources by Soros puppet Zelensky. Betcha missed it when the Dems pushed for a very avoidable war pushed between Russia and the Ukraine without any attempt at negociations. Betcha missed it when the fake POTUS (genuine POS) has undone JFK’s greatest legacy during the Cuban missile crisis. Betcha missed it when the fake POTUS pushed Russia into the camps of China et cetera. Betcha missed the tryanny of the perverted Soros “open society” being shoved down the throats of the Ukrainian people. Betcha missed it when innocent Russian and Girls were lured into Israel to be sold as sex slaves on the streets of Tel Aviv for generations after their gg-grandfathers overran concetration camps. Where was all the Dem love for the Ukraine back then? Go back to FDR, then Democratic party wanted Russia controlling the Ukraine while Stalin was killed Christians by in the Gulag Camps while Soviet troops raped German women and girls in the age range of 8-80 years old.
Sharon, I betcha have no idea what world you are actually living in, if you can, tell me where I am wrong.
I have no doubt I live on Earth 1 in the year 2024. Because I have always read before taking a position. Articles with names, dates, references and links that can be fact checked, and I do that when I have not already. Since Obama first ran, B.S. propaganda has been traced back to several foreign adversaries, but I am talking about the biggest player. (Though back then, it was a 2 line meme with a picture of Obama or Hilary, etc. that their pawns spread and insisted were facts.) Russia learned a long time ago how malleable the people who bought in then were to visual stimulation. Now it’s watching videos and talk shows masquerading as “news”. Can you imagine someone taking notes to fact check anything? LOL! No, they just swallow. Sorry, but all of your dated “Betcha missed” is a whataboutism game that can go in millions of directions. If you want to talk about the very dire subject of Russia’s goal/plan for destroying America from within, I’d be more than happy to. #1. With disinformation. #2. (And you got this right) With drugs. But you and I can actually do something about #1.
Fudd alert!! Fudd alert!!!
Your whole story is full of untruths, myths and anti-2A propaganda talking points.
This kind of rationalization is exactly the kind of thing that the anti-gun, anti-2A, anti-constitution, anti-freedom people love. Please, go back and study the history of our country that leads up to, during and well after the signing of the Bill of Rights.
I am not anti-2A in any shape or form! I own many, love several shooting sports, reload, and have a CCP. I just happen to agree with Supreme Court Justice Scalia, when he noted: “Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. [It is] not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”
Sorry but when you say you aren’t anti-2A in “any shape or form” and then say the things you said in your original post I can’t take you seriously. As pointed out by the others who responded to your post, you aren’t pro-2A, you’re one of those “I support the 2A but…” people. Your entire first post is filled with nothing but anti-2A propaganda nonsense. If you can’t see that then I don’t know what to tell you. You obviously don’t understand the 2A or why it was enshrined in our constitution.
You speak like 2A has no limitations, like it is fine for the NRA and Gun Industry to dictate what is fine for John Q. Public to own. That simply isn’t factual, or rational.
So what are your thoughts on Martin Niemoller’s statement that ends with “and then they came for me, but there was no one left to speak for me”, and maybe tell us why it’s relevant in regards to your opinion on these oh-so-scary small caliber rifles. Quick now, look it up and get back to us, withpossi ly a little self-reflection.
Thanks for sharing that. I agree it is a powerful statement about the Germans failure to speak out against the Nazi’s. With my decades of research and having my finger on the pulse of the NRA, gun industry, and “other gun owners”, I’ll try to share why I speak out in the limited space there is here. I’ve watched the fear laden campaigns to drive sales of firearms currently defined as assault weapons for a long time. I also found that many of the people that fall for these fear based tactics, also fall for B.S. propaganda, much of which comes from our foreign adversaries. Google “Foreign disinformation campaigns” if you need to. If your search engine isn’t too compromised, you’ll see that Russia is the biggest player, and has been since “Obama wasn’t born in the U.S.”. And like no doubt Martin Niemoller witnessed over time, the Dictators Playbook began to unfold. But now, Putin’s biggest enemy is democracy, you can’t install a dictator (like Russia did with N. Korea) in a such a nation. So today, it is democrats instead of Jews that are being demonized. Surely even you noticed Trump doing his bidding, by trying to withhold aid to Ukraine and to get us out of NATO? How about their “approved” National news trying to hire Tucker Carlson? Or the whole recent Hunter/Joe attacks based on the GOP in collusion with a Russian spy, Alexander Smirnov? The rest of the playbook, discrediting our institutions and reputable media, claiming things are horrible when they are not, and promoting the one and only man that can save you all from this invented darkness, is oh so obvious.
Back to subject weapons. The ones that there are such insane inventories of. That there has been the hoarding of mags and ammo for, and coveting of the drop in trigger assemblies that enable a near full auto rate of fire. It wasn’t that long ago that a lone, angry, young man could walk into even a Ma/Pa shop, and out with the weapon, 1/2 dozen 30 round mags, and enough ammo. to fill them twice. It was/is out of control. Those having fits about new laws can’t come close to a rational justification. What, to use against other Americans? Because they work for the government? Who is fighting Putin’s plan to destroy us from within? How about we put that all aside and try a little critical thinking. Lets say “Bubba” claims his right is to own whatever the NRA and gun industry says he can. And he justifies it from defending his home to using it against his vision of enemies, foreign and domestic. (That vision is a BIG problem!) So the weapon can only serve him IF he is home! Does he really think if things get crazy, he’s going to run home and get it, then…leave his home? How do you see it? If he claims it’s only for his home defense, what equally armed people are going to target his home? Targets for such bad actors are homes that are known to have a lot of cash, expensive jewelry, drugs or…what for it…weapons they want. All I know is every other developed country on this planet does not come close to the U.S. in any statistic to do with guns, and they are doing wonderfully. But then, they aren’t at the top of Putin’s list either. All my thoughts, sorry you asked?
lady you subscribe to the communist way of thinking……..when you decide what is right for others than you are taking away their rights from them! all these laws are making the bad guys a superior force with superior weaponry and supporting that makes me question you truth that you are peddling here!!!
Sorry, Sharon, but you still haven’t managed to grasp the enormity of the situation.
The issue might be stated as why there is so much gun violence, which distills down to just why do some people need to employ VIOLENCE against another?
That reduces down to the reasons that people feel the need to lash out laterally within the population to relieve their frustrations.
That then boils down to addressing why people in power have to continually emasculate the population in order to stay in power/office, whatever.
That doesn’t even begin to address the elites at the Rockefeller and Rothschild levels and higher, who for centuries have destroyed livelihoods and murdered people (usually by someone else’s hand), to satisfy their gluttony. How can these hypocrites ever pretend to have a religion when they are so disconnected from God?
Imagine, on the flip side, that there was some kind of incurable virus that only struck greedy tyrants, and that the new leaders truly gave of themselves, part of their fortunes back to people. During the Bush Administration, I remember reading about one shoe manufacturer who refused to fire any of his employees during the recession and chose also to suspend collection of his own salary. Where have we seen that level of selflessness in society today? Stanford Neurobiologist, Robert Sapolsky, who has for decades monitored the stress characteristics of baboons, noticed after returning one year that the viciously abusive alpha males were missing; indeed, that they had hoarded a stash of tainted leftover supplies from some safari group. The gluttony of the two alphas turned out to be their own demise and when Sapolsky started recording the behaviors of the rest of the troop, gone was the aggression on the population that was generated from the top of the ladder. Instead, the rest of the population had gone back to feeding, grooming, and nurturing each other. How do we get to that point?
Until you address the larger problem, that elephant in the room, all of your suggestions are pointless. Trump turned over part of his salary for part of his time in the WH; at least that was a start. My point is that ……… you will know when humanity has reached that stage of maturity when guns just are no longer needed anymore and might be collecting dust on Grandpa’s mantle or some musty trunk in the basement.
As long as that upper escelon of Jungle Mentality exists, they will continue to lower the bar for all of humanity within the collective consciousness as to how far mankind can spiritually evolve before our Sun burns out. I would hope it wouldn’t take that long.
if freedom is too frightening for you, there are a multitude of places where you would fit in perfectly and be happy. the United States of America is not one of them.
There’s a thought. No other developed country on the planet defines “freedom” by a type of weapon the general public can possess. In fact, the rest of the world views the U.S. as nuts in that respect. Check out the dozens of people from other countries that were asked about it. https://www.vice.com/en/article/d3az8x/we-asked-people-around-the-world-what-they-think-of-us-gun-laws
You do your self a disservice when claiming to fact check all of your information. Your first statements about MSR’s is bunk. The military had a very good weapon system, with a very powerful and lethal cartridge; the 30-06. Problem was it was not suited to modern jungle warfare. I suggest you do a bit of reading on the reasoning behind the development and adoption of the M16. Further, the MSR has become popular for reasons that go well beyond the supposed (and false) statements about the lethality of the 556 round. Puny, in comparison to the 30-06. The real attraction is that the MSR is that it is the “Barby Doll” of rifles/weapons. Completely modular, capable of being used with a multiplicity of calibers, and modifiable to purpose/proposed use. And, yes Sharon, they are used for hunting, in case you want to fall on that worn out sword.
I would postulate that the nut cases on both sides of the political spectrum scare the hell out of me. The vindictive, nasty, spewing seen here convinces me more that we should regulate the internet not guns, but that is an entirely different line of argument . . .
Not sure what statements you are calling “bunk”. I did plenty of reading on the development of the M16 and .556/.223 cartridge. Weight of the weapons and magazines was a start. And among the goals of the cartridge was to pierce combat helmets of the time, and inflict “through” wounds, to draw more soldiers out to help their screaming friend. Look John, just a few weeks ago we had a shooting in Tacoma, home owner with an AR15 fires 15 rounds in front of his house and hits the perp. once. 14 rounds flying unchecked in the city of Tacoma. Even without the drop in trigger assemblies that increase the rate of fire to near full auto…John Q. Public can not handle these weapons! Selling over 20 million of them is insane. The tactics used to sell them are false, as is the logic that 99% of the people who buy them use. We all will live just fine, our 2A rights will still be intact, without them continuing to be sold. It’s fine that you do nothing to slow the bleeding. I will for you.
To start with the “piercing a modern helmet” – this was a minimum requirement – the preexisting 30-06 had no problem piercing helmets or most body armor for that matter. The 556/223 round is at best anemic compared to other rifle cartridges. AS to john Q. public not being able to control an MSR, this is also bunk. You obviously have not seen USPSA PCC competitions. Yes, I know PCC is not quite the same as 223/556 but is a reasonable comparison. As far as your 2A rights are concerned, you better be. Look again at the prohibited weapons proposed. They aren’t just MSRs. It won’t stop there either and those invested in this have admitted the ultimate goal is to prohibit all weapons.
My final comment was not directed towards you, but rather the nasty, crude responses you got.
Competitive shooters are NOT John Q. Public. John Q. is the Yahoo in cities/suburbs (and some rural) who never had much if any interest in firearms until the fear based sales campaigns that also ignited their Rambo wannabe fantasies. I’ve watched them for a good 20 years now. Either irrational fear or bragging rights was why they purchased a MSR. I’ve watched videos of some, claiming their right to use them against other Americans…if they happen to work for the government. From years ago of course because they learned that didn’t go over well. I venture a minimum of 90% of the 20 million sold are in the hands of people with no business owning them. Yes, other prohibited weapons are 9mm Bullpups. I remember an ad for one (not verbatim) “Developed for Special Ops for VIP protection, can fit in a laptop bag, or the center consoles of most pickup trucks!”. Really?? It’s just been out of control, and the government needs to stop the gun industry and NRA from saying what is OK for the general public to continue to buy. We’ll all live just fine, and our 2A rights will still be fully intact. Truly, it is a virtually insurmountable legislative task that the majority of people don’t want, to try and prohibit all weapons. Facts over fear John.
Don’t kid yourself, confiscating is the next step and ultimate goal of these anti-2nd Amendment politicians and advocacy groups
They can go to Hell.
This politician should be arrested for Treason against that of which he swore to protect “The US Constitution” of America. Thwy forgot the first sentence of “We Rhe People”.
This woman, Lucy McBath, is an Effing Idiot. No gun control is the best policy. She should focus on the criminals and not law abiding citizens. Criminals are not responsible gun owners. They love to give these unconstitutional bills names that sound great like this on – GOSAFE. They should really name is “Stripping your 2nd Amendment Rights”
McBath states “I firmly believe we must uphold the laws that protect safe and responsible gun ownership. This legislation accomplishes that, while preventing firearms that are inherently dangerous and unusually lethal, designed for maximum harm, from falling into the hands of individuals who pose a threat to themselves or others,”
What she really is saying “I want to prevent US Citizens from owning semi-automatic firearms. This legislation accomplishes that because I’m targeting responsible gun owners and not focusing on criminals who don’t follow the laws.”
The Democrats want to take away all our rights, including disarming American citizens, while they defund the police and let criminals back on the streets.
All this is either already regulated or has been rejected as unconstitutional by the supreme or lower courts. These dumbass liberals need to demand enforcement of laws on the books now not add duplicate laws and bring their hands clutching pearls claiming”we did something”! Failure to enforce the law should be grounds for removal from office. Are you hearing us District Attorneys?
I don’t understand these gun grabbers, they’re trying to rewrite the constitution to suit their own agenda. Trying to take the guns from veterans who fought to protect the constitution which is total BS! They should be concerned about what’s happening in the world, and need to know that Americans citizens being armed is also a deterrent for other communist countries if shit hits the fan and China try’s to invade its not only the US military they have to fend off it’s the armed citizens and millions of American veterans that will protect these $?&@ing gun grabbers.
No shock this was introduced in the house. It has no more support from the right than any other AWB, and this one is worse.
The bill is useful as a canary to show you what the left is thinking.
Saying this bill respects 2A is like saying, the 13th Amendment stricture against chattel slavery applies only to white people.
It never ceases to amaze me that people will believe that to protect the citizen they must take away their defenses. However they also believe that criminals will obey the laws. If criminals obeyed the laws, they wouldn’t be criminals! How do you know that they know people will break the laws? Because they need to assign penalties for breaking the laws!
Now you don’t really believe they are concerned about your safety. It is to make disarming you so you can’t fight back sound like a good thing.
Molon labe
I didn’t put in my 36 year military carrer for gaarbage like this! THIS SOUNDS MORE LIKE “COMMUNISM”!
JUST SAY NO!!!
Obama and Hillary favorably mentioned Saul Alinsky as a major influence in their “progressive” political thinking. Boiled down, Alinsky was the first community organizer and a self-proclaimed radical. In his book Reveille for Radicals he lays out a political agenda for Socialists to overthrow a constitutional republic (like ours) and one of the main precepts, after taking over healthcare (Obamacare) and public education (untouchable leftist teacher unions), is civilian disarmament. This has nothing to do with crime prevention or safety for children. They will never stop trying to circumvent and eliminate 2A rights for all Americans. The time is coming that we will have to fight for our God given rights again. Don’t be a wimp or a bedwetter when the time comes to start stacking. Be a patriot!
Just make sure you keep that energy.
The only reason a government wants to take away your weapons after more than two hundred years is because they plan on doing something that would make you want to use your weapon against them.
The 2nd amendment community is not going to be happy until all guns are banned. What’s that you say?
The purpose of the 2nd, as SCOTUS ruled long ago, was to protect Article I, Section 8, Clauses 15 & 16, which were designated to give
“We the People” absolute control over the government. However, with the help of the NRA, GOA, and others, the purpose of the
amendment was downgraded to the impotent “individual right theory”.
Most gun owners, probably about 99%, want nothing to do with the Militia for a number of reasons. They know little to nothing about it,
but when they’re educated on the subject, they realize that they would actually have to get out to be organized, armed, and disciplined
so that they could fulfill the Duty commanded by the Constitution.
Revitalize the Militia and we can go down and arrest the anti-2nd crowd instead of begging them to stop. The majority will only learn
when its too late, and we’ve been made surfs to the elite. Look up Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., A.M., A.B., Ph. D., J.D., for an education on
the subject. He is a life member of the NRA who tried to get them to bring legitimate cases. Pro-2nd organizations have painted
themselves into a corner. They can’t come out and admit that they’ve been lying, and actually assisting in gun control.
It appears to me to be a good “starting” point for antis. If you think otherwise, if you think it will not be expanded to all semi autos, then to pump, and lever guns, I have a bridge to sell you.
These AssHats Need to Read and Understand the Constitution They Swear an Oath to Uphold, and Any Who don’t are Immediately Removed from Office!
We are now in the home stretch to our destruction as a free people. This is planned. The human condition does not want people to be free. Humans want to control humans. It is power. Humans crave power and authority, it is in their DNA. No matter what the weak and the powerful do, they want to remove your power, your authority over your own person. The weak do not want to be afraid and they think by removing your ability to have power will make them safer. They just do not understand human nature. That is why they are weak.
To remain safe and free you must project power and authority. You don’t have to be violent, just the ability to project. That is why people are always advised to walk confidently and be aware of their surroundings. Humans do not want to mess with people they are not sure they can defeat. They will always prey upon the weak. It is natures law. That is why there needs to be sheepdogs to protect the flock. Once you take out the sheepdogs, you have access to the entire flock.
The government, full of psychopaths and sociopaths, are bent on taking away the sheepdogs. The weak are bent on taking away the sheepdogs in the false hope it will make them safe. The only solution, if you want to retain your freedom is to be a sheepdog and not allow the bad and weak guys from neutering you.
Long live the Sheep Dogs.
Hmmm – guns do not kill people; people kill people. This piece of legislation is terribly wrong. Criminals will get all the guns while the government castrates the law abiding citizens, Congress should get a reality check; fire arms deaths aren’t even in the top 5+ causes of death in the USA.
Take away our gun rights will lead to the loss (theft) of our other Constitutional Rights,
More diatribe from the tyrants. Slipping in the detachable mags outlawing bolt action rifles with such and about 100% of pistols? Of course they would hide that in the misnomer of weapons of war. Which are FULL auto, but details details.
Heller sys that Bans on firearms, especially an entire class of commonly owned/used firearms, is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. These legislature goons just keep re-naming/re-packaging the same ill conceived bills, calling it something else, with the hope that it gets by.
So what that there are many of these firearms out there. They are L E G A L, for Christ’s sake. The 2nd Amendment does not restrict any type nor class of firearm and, how is a militia to be ARMED, if NOT with military suitable firearms?
They think that every firearm owner and 2A supporter is an “insurrectionist” who will “overthrow” the government. Well, if they keep going down this path toward Tyranny and Despotism, they will learn that we only want to RESTORE our Constitutional Republic from their skewed, distorted views.
The 2A is a RESTRICTION and a PROHIBITION on the government……NOT against the People.
These weapons of war are too dangerous for American streets, schools, or the US Capitol.
The relationship between the government and its citizens changed radically and legally in the 1960s, with several acts in short succession like the Voting Rights Act, Gun Control Act, Civil Rights Act – these are sometimes collectively called the Second Constitution. Under the modern legal structure, this is exactly the kind of danger that not only the government can address but should address in modern America.
The communists/socialists need to be eliminated from society by any means or we won’t have the constitution.
unusually lethal………no a 44mag is unusually lethal!