The family members of slain 17-year-old Trevon Johnson are outraged — outraged that a 54-year-old woman shot the teen while he was burglarizing her Miami home last Thursday night.
“I don’t care if she have her gun license or any of that. That is way beyond the law… way beyond,” said Johnson’s cousin Nautika Harris in an interview with CBS Miami. “He was not supposed to die like this. He had a future ahead of him. Trevon had goals… he was a funny guy, very big on education, loved learning.”
According to police, the homeowner saw Johnson breaking into her home on surveillance cameras she had installed after previous robberies. Concerned about the theft of her belongings, she armed herself and went to find the suspect. She spotted Johnson as he was attempting to climb out of a window.
“She observed a subject leaving the home through the rear,” said Miami-Dade police Det. Dan Ferrin.
Investigators said that there was a confrontation, the extent of which is not clear at this moment. The homeowner fired one fatal shot. Johnson was pronounced dead at the scene.
“What’s wrong with her,” asked Johnson’s sister Nisha Johnson. “She did not have to shoot him.”
“It’s no reason she should have waited until I think he walked out the yard to try to shoot him,” said Harris. “If she called the police already why would she shoot him?”
The family of Johnson insists that he did not steal anything from the home, but investigators did not confirm that claim.
“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
Trevon Johnson, 17, was fatally shot while attempting to rob the home of a 54-year-old Miami resident. (Photo: Facebook)
Meanwhile, the homeowner is cooperating with authorities. So far, no charges have been filed. The case has been sent over to the state attorney’s office for further review.
“She’s a person that is a little distraught because this is her home that someone obviously was in,” Det. Ferrin said.
Ferrin added that it’s best for the police to confront the suspect, not the victim.
“If there’s any type of situation that happens or they believe there’s a burglary at the home or any type of confrontation, dial 911. Have the police make that confrontation,” Ferrin said. “That’s what we’re here for.”
Obviously, not all the details are known. But from the looks of things, the woman was fully justified in shooting Johnson. For starters, he had no lawful right to be in her home. In fact, he was — if the reports are true, and there’s no reason to doubt them at this particular time — in the act of committing a felony!
Beyond that, it’s not clear what his intentions were. Was it just a robbery? Was he going to physical assault her? Rape her? Kill her? Plus, how is she supposed to know what his motives are when he’s standing in her home?
Florida’s self-defense laws protect homeowners who reasonably fear for their safety. Unquestionably, the homeowner could argue that she had a legitimate reason to fear injury, great bodily harm or even death with a younger, stronger male stranger in her home.
With that said, what are your thoughts on this shooting? Also, what would you say to the would-be burglar’s family who all believe that the homeowner was too quick to pull the trigger?
A Thug is a THUG !
If IT is in My HOME Without My
Permission IT deserves to DIE !
IT should have NO Doubt in IT’s
Mind that invading Anyone’s
HOME is a Perfect RECIPE to
Go Join IT’s MAKER !
(Assuming that IT’s Maker will even
Allow IT to Come)
Hopefully the MAKER will Send IT
STRAIGHT to HELL !
Easy to see why he was a thug from the way his relatives think.
Trevon’s family says she didn’t have to shoot him. He shouldn’t have broken in to the neighbors house and put himself in a position to get shot. Anyone breaks into my home is getting lead poisoning. I guarantee it.
Wonderful to know he was big on education. His education is now complete. He was awarded a lead diploma and didn’t even have to wait two weeks for it to arrive in the mail. Also didn’t have to bother with all the pomp and excitement of walking across any stage, getting pictures… There are two cures for stupidity, and one of them assumes you survived the other.
Karen is wrong, the subway incident of the 80’s proves: shoot to kill, the one he only wounded & crippled sued the shooter, 3/4 is good shooting before it was what it is today. The entitlement attitude has to be eliminated…
Come on now .. You and I all know B&E is taught in 5th grade “Schools in da hood” job applications are an ancient science for ” peeps without Skill Sets ” if’n uz learn dat skills howya gonna earn ? We gots no timez for da skols at bez teaching us’z no skillz…. no grilzz no $200 Jordan’s no blings no whips with da 26s …
The article fails to mention the time of the incident…was it 8 p.m., or 3 a.m.? Not that it matters legally, but the time would probably enter into the state of mind of the homeowner. Regardless, the 17 year old burglar should have known the risk he was taking and therefore got what he deserved. For the family to be upset at the intended victim is analogous to a family being upset at General Motors for manufacturing a car that was being driven by a drunk driver who died in an accident when he ran off the road and hit a tree. At some point people have to accept the consequences of their criminal activities. The truly sad statement in the article was voiced by the pathetic cousin, Nautika Harris, who unashamedly tried to justify his felonious conduct by stating people should understand that by his being from the “hood”, there was no other way for him to get clothes…huh??? Based on that statement it is reasonable to assume that working for money was not a familiar activity for that extended family, and their sense of “entitlement”, as promoted by the Muslim community organizer, AKA Barack Hussein Obummer, led this man to believe he didn’t have to work to acquire the things he wanted. With that type of reasoning in the family’s gene pool it makes sense for him to be killed during the commission of a serious felony. And for the article to make reference to the fact that the homeowner should have waited for the police to confront the burglar, ignores the fact that the dude would have already done what he came for and be long gone by the time the law arrived. People need to understand that police don’t carry a firearm to protect you, they carry to rightfully protect themselves. This story had a happy ending…the intended victim is alive and her property secure, while one non-productive, criminal drain on society is eliminated. As to the cousin and other family members who blame the victim…”you can’t fix stupid”!!!
“Nautika Harris, who unashamedly tried to justify his felonious conduct by stating people should understand that by his being from the “hood”, there was no other way for him to get clothes…huh??? Based on that statement it is reasonable to assume that working for money was not a familiar activity for that extended family, and their sense of “entitlement”,”
Clearly his photo doesn’t show much taste for clothes; amid braids and bling. Are those free?
I would not shoot to kill, there are many choices to be made when we own guns.
One is shoot when you aim, it doesn’t say kill.
I’d rather disable where ever possible and you have that decision if your mentally prepared.
There are consequences for trespassing and standing in another man’s home, the young man knew this & his family should be asking the question what would they do if reversed and how was my child responsible that fateful evening?
I’m sorry they lost their child; it’s not a perfect world .
Where violence has become the norm, we have a long ways to grow up consciously.
Everyone is responsible for what happens in this world good and bad; We are all connected …
I seriously doubt the woman “shot to kill” but death is a very real possible result of shooting at somebody. The woman was no doubt frightened, heart pounding, hands shaking, tunnel vision, Was the house lit or dark? I really doubt if she could have killed him intentionally if she HAD meant to. I say the final result was just rotten luck. His wound however, no matter the result, was because of choices HE made.
Now, IF he was climbing OUT the window, (something she may not have been aware of at the moment) she might have done well to have hung back and let him go. But, not having been there, not knowing the facts, I won’t even stand on that.
OK , if she let him go im sure that would have been the last time he robbed somebody else home. He was making a living at what he was good at, STEALING!!!! There is no other way of getting money in the hood such as working. If she had not stopped him maybe he would have shown up at your house where your 15 year old daughter is sleeping and im sure he would never think of a little rape on the side. SEE WHERE THIS CAN GO! Use your head not your heart.
No, that’s pointless. The decision she made ENSURED that he never was able to rob another home again or possibly put any other law-abiding homeowner’s lives in danger.
If someone breaks into your home, they’ve forfeited their right to safety. Robbers obviously don’t care about the law, so why wouldn’t they just lie to police and say “she let me in and then shot me!”, this way that robbing piece of garbage gets exactly what they put themselves into a situation to receive and no one else can say a damn thing because there were only two people who witnessed that, the robber and the homeowner, and one of them is justifiably gone. Good riddance.
So you’re going to shoot to wound regardless of the perp’s intent? He/she might have a piece as well and while he/she is lying on the floor bleeding, he/she pulls a piece and shoots you dead. Make them dead right of the bat, you’ll save someone else from this individual, plus a lot of time, money and grief.
“I would not shoot to kill?” Do you not understand the law? The law does not protect a citizen to shoot to disable. If you shoot to disable someone, you have in effect told a jury that you were not in fear for your LIFE! You will be arrested for assault with a deadly weapon, and Nautika and her lawyers will take everything you own while you serve out your sentence which will leave a felony on your record. If you are not a police officer, you do not have the lawful luxury of shooting to disable. If you decide to do so, you have signed your own life away as a free citizen. They will rip you to shreds in court. Just sayin….
“Shoot to maim”? WTF sort of joy-juice are you on, anyway?
ANY sort of firearms training DOES NOT promote “shooting to wound, disable or maim”, but rather “shooting to incapacitate, eliminate or stop” a perpetrator.
This homeowner made a huge mistake.
She should have let him leave, followed him to his home, and wiped out the whole nest of the vermin.
Maybe try teaching your kids to respect others? Maybe try earning respect!
Blacks go around demanding respect, every other race earns it!!
Grammatical change to clarify my meaning of the sentence:
“If half of the alleged “facts” of the case are as the article stated, one would be suspect if they replied that entering and/or leaving a private home of a total stranger THROUGH A WINDOW is the “thing to do in the hood”.”
I have read through almost half of the almost 400 comments and have seen so many opinions that shake out as another redundant statement that has already been made before [many times] in the lineup. So, in an attempt to avoid that pitfall not finding the one basic question that entered MY mind at the finish of reading the above article, I will try to stir the pot with something new for a change.
In all of this “discussion”, albeit much of it leaning one way or another, let me throw out this thought. I read that the alleged B&E perpetrator was “a 17 year old shot while he was burglarizing her home, [ie., the homeowner] The alleged burglar was:
1. “observed” by the homeowner “breaking into her home” on a surveillance camera which she had installed after some other burglaries.
2. She “armed herself” and went to locate the suspect.
3. She found him “attempting to climb out of a window”.
4. Investigators said there was a “confrontation.
5. Homeowner fired “one fatal shot.” the alleged burglar, “Johnson was pronounced dead at the scene”.
6. “He had no lawful right to be in her home”. In fact, he was in the act of “committing a felony” …..
So, with these high points being stated as such, if I were the defense attorney in a court case with the homeowner as my defendant, the very first question I would ask the jury to clear up beyond any shadow of doubt would be,
“Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, if the deceased, Trevon Johnson, was not at my client’s home for illegal purposes, and he was not involved in any illegal act of breaking and entering with intent to burglarize the building, ………… why didn’t he simply go to the front door and either knock or ring the door bell?”
That would be a major factor, in my mind, in any final judgement passed down by any judge worth his salt sitting on the bench. If half of the alleged “facts” of the case are as the article stated, one would be suspect if they replied that entering and/or leaving a private home of a total stranger is the “thing to do in the hood”.
ANd lastly, I will say this to Mr. Blannelberry, the author of the article for GA, “Shame on you for that opening line you presented to the readers when you have absolutely nothing here in print to prove or disprove the allegation which states:
“The family members of slain 17-year-old Trevon Johnson are outraged — outraged that a 54-year-old woman shot the teen he while HE WAS BURGLARIZING HER MIAMI HOME last Thursday night.” And where did you get THIS information??? Poor journalism as the least in my opinion …..
Still not as bad as Britain where if you’re almost 80 and use a screwdriver to protect yourself and your wife against two armed home invaders, inside your home, and one of the invaders dies, you get charged with murder! Great place to live. Armed intruder? No problem. Just call the police, sit tight and wait a bit for some of the UK’s unarmed finest. Be patient, they’re on their way.
People who can’t understand this are just plain stupid. Many years ago I woke up at 3:00 AM by the sound of foot steps approaching my bed at a quick pace. He was only about 15 feet away. Talk about a rude awakening! Deep sleep to wide awake and heart pounding like it’s never done before in about one second. Lucky for me he turned and walked right past me, never knew I was there. All I had was a baseball bat and that’s not enough. I’ve never felt fear and adrenaline anything close to that before or since. That was when I bought my first gun and will never sleep without one again (besides, I love beautiful firearms anyway). Other people that I’ve known haven’t been as lucky, some paying a price physically and emotionally that they will never recover from.
2nd amendment, it’s our RIGHT to bear arms. Criminal got his. maybe if his parents would have raised him understanding that people don’t want to be robbed first off and secondly that people own guns to protect their homes so if that young man decides to break into somebody’s home he’s putting his own life at risk. and he did just that he paid the ultimate price for his foolishness.
My mother and I had a similar situation 2 months ago where 3 guys ran up our driveway as I was speaking to a deputy on the phone, describing the suspicious knocking and luxury car these ‘Trevons’ came in. One guy with green gloves had already jumped one of or gates right before I grabbed my shotgun. I told the deputy what I was doing and he never prevented me from doing so. Had I not been there, my mother would have been surprised and probably the worse situation would have occurred since she was initially unaware of any knocking. When she heard me describing to the deputy what was happening, she couldn’t even dial the phone because her hands were shaking. The first sheriff SUV arrived about 2 or 3 minutes after the car that the ‘Trevons’ came in left quickly. That means my mother and I were the only line of defense throughout that ordeal. All it took was for the guy with green gloves to see me holding my shotgun in a defensive position. They all left a lot quicker than they came.
I think I’d send them the bill for the psychiatric care I’d need because I had to defend my life from the big on learning felon.
Trevon had goals… He was just practicing for the big heist that was gonna move him up in the world, how he goin make it big now, that lady done stole his future………….
well he sure learned something that day. Family comments don’t make any sense. You don’t belong in someons else s house if u weren’t invited
Of course he had to shoot him she was in fear
When will these poor thuggy woogys realize their actions may be their demise out with the trash is what I say good riddance
I can’t believe the family can’t own up to the fact that this boy is a thug and has no regard for the rights of people. So he should steal to buy his school books! That is ludicrous! He got what he deserved! Criminals beware! You can lose your life by committing crimes!
I wonder where he got the idea that it was ok to break into somone’s home and steal? Could it be his mom who feels that in order to buy clothes he needed to steal, you know, because that’s just life in the “hood”. Take some f-ing responsibility you pieces of human garbage. Mom is blaming everyone but who deserves it. If her view wasn’t that it was ok to steal because they are from the “hood” and got no money, maybe her “big on education” boy wouldn’t have decided to break and enter. Mom if you want to blame someone for your son’s death, you need not look further than your mirror. STFU and quit blaming others for your shortcomings.
There are all thousands of people who are poor who do not resort to stealing, who do not break into people’s homes. There are people who can and do help people in need. It is a shame that he died, but the picture that is painted of there being no other way to get necessities except stealing is wrong.
A great story: Once upon a time a POS parasite criminal scumbag named Trevon broke into a house and got shot to death by a nice lady homeowner. The end. I love a story with a happy ending! Homeowner 1, criminal parasite POS 0. Give this lady a citizenship award!
” …my ‘lil johnny was a good boy…” Blah – blah – blah. It all boils down to the fact there’s one less ‘pants-on-the-ground’ dirt bag to pollute the gene pool. Live by the sword, die by the sword …
I’m thinking that people should stop naming their kids Trevon.
It’s obviously not working out so well.
Hilarious and True
“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
Isn’t that your job as a parent?
What? Accept some resposibility instead of blaming everything on others??? You think she’d live in the hood if she had some personal resposibility?
“…big on education…” Yeah, I’m sure he was a Rhodes scholar.
“…future ahead of him…” Yeah, stealing televisions.
“…how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school?” I’m sure he was at risk of going to class naked on numerous occasions and this was a real problem. You’re 27th pair of Jordans is important.
Anyway, many thanks to this woman for taking care of this problem so another homeowner didn’t have to deal with the next time Trevon dindu nuffin.
Rest in Piss you dirt bag thief , good riddens. Maybe somebody will shoot his stupid donkey family who tried to justify his actions . shit faces.
It amazes me that this criminal’s Mom actually attempted to defend burgulary as acceptable behavoir using “the hood” as the reason for such anti-social behavoir. I believe that it is entirely justified to shoot an intruder inside your home.
The basic question is, “Why did he think that it is ok to break in to someone’s home?” The concept that to rob from those who have more than you is a form of sustaining yourself and perhaps your family is absolutely ludicrous. Breaking in to someone else’s home is a fantastic way to get shot and/or killed. He got what he deserved!
Bravo
One less savage in the gene pool. TRASH removal is good as this low life would only have made more bastards that pray off society
I hope I never own anything I would kill someone for stealing. On the other hand if I or my family are threatened, sorry you are a dead man. I know everyone is entitled to protect their property, I just wonder what they consider a human life to be worth.
Apparently he wasent human he was a thug pos.he got exactly what he deserved.
Then you won’t mind if others that need to steal to be able to provide for themselves come to your house? Make sure you just stand there and do nothing since you don’t consider that worth shooting someone for. Oh, and if they are stealing from you, doesn’t that mean they’re in your house? So, as long as they leave nicely you’ll leave them alone? Might want to reconsider your statement or at least clarify it.
God’s word says if a thief breaks into your home during the day let him go, if at night kill him. The obvious meaning is that if he is breaking into a home during the night, he is not afraid to kill because it’s expected that the homeowner will be home. A day thief is taking the risk of getting seen (daylight) to avoid contact with people so is not the threat to this homeowner or the next 100 homeowners, so let him go. Notice it does not mention wether you let him go with your things or not….
I don’t think anything I own is worth your life, but I’m not giving to someone who is trying to steal. If I confront a thief and they run, I’m not shooting anyone in tha back, but if they move towards me, I will not hesitate.
I think “human” is the key word in your statement. Human earn what they want. The lady had beeb burglarized before, probably scared to death. She most likely did fear for her life. Easy for you to judge, in the clear light of day, without any threat. How dare you. If she hadn’t shot and ended up raped and dead, what would your pious judgemental ass have said?
A human life of someone breaking into my home whether to steal from me or attempt bodily harm is worth about 90 cents. That’s the approximate cost of one .45 caliber hollow point.
It is important for All Americans to Respect All Other Americans.
In essence, this means “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.
Don’t Steal, Don’t Rob, Don’t Vandalize, and Don’t Break Into Other People’s Homes!
And don’t underestimate honest law-abiding Americans who aren’t afraid to protect themselves or their families!!
Great example of “GUN CONTROL” = One round thru the ’10’ ring, end of story. He died of “Natural Causes”—- Natural to the line of business he was in (B&E). “But he had a ‘future’ “. Yeh, SURE: Cell #206, ‘D-Block, ANGOLA PRISON!!! You want to play ‘You Bet Your Life’, be prepared to LOSE!!! Break into my place, and I’ll fill him with enough lead to ‘Sink the Bismark’. I’ve heard that hogs will eat EVERYTHING, including bones. So 3 days later, his face is on a milk carton at about the same time as what’s left of him comes out of the back end of ‘Porky Pig’. NO Body= No Crime. It’ the job of the police to draw a chalk line around the dead body; It’s YOUR JOB to make sure they don’t draw the chalk line around YOU. As for the perp’s family, they should be reminded that the ‘almost victim’ still has 6 rounds left.
Stupid F’in family? What’s wrong with Them? Why did they NOT discipline their kid, so he would NOT GET KILLED for being a Dumb-A$$???
‘Nuff Said!
So true. Kids need discipline and structure or this happens. To the family I say live by the sword, die by the sword. If your going to live like that then you will die like that. Stay out of other people’s homes… Especially mine 🔫
you cant fix stupid, or maybe you can. put my wife in fear of her 62 year life and you can bet she wont lose much sleep over and idiot like taht.
What concerns me most is the attitude of the mother saying: “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”. A robber committing a crime has no defenseable point of view. An intruder has chosen robbery over work. There are other lawful means to get money to buy clothes, all require work.
He can get a job as a dead burglar now. He can keep that one.
He good boy. Got 3 babies. Buy diapers for babies mamas. Gonna go to college. Be a rocket scientist.
Just another Trevon that could do no wrong, Not!
Starts in the home….parenting….get a fricken job and quit think your entitled to others hard earned money and property. people now days must be fricken mental.
And most likely voted for Obama twice and Hillary as well. Get a job and spend your hard-earned money on life’s essentials. If you had spent as much time and effort on doing good things as you did on bad now, you would not be DEAD OR GRIEVING YOUR DEAD SON. PS-Dad – Mom. Parenting is the answer, try it.
Any word yet on whether this Trevon looks like the prezidunce’s Imaginary Son Trayvon Martin
“You have to look at it from his point-of-view.” After reading that comment, my sympathy grew wings and fled the house through an open window. It will come back when it gets hungry….right?
The statements of the family of the intruder says it all. They justified his burgalry in the name of providing his clothing for school? Really? So it’s okay to rob people if they have something you need? Not in my country.
I stand firmly behind the “Make my day” and “Castle doctrine” laws put in place in the more enlightened states. You cannot stop an intruder with a cell phone. Your dog will be shot. Your locks are a false sense of security. The police respond to crimes in progress as quickly as they are able. I respect their work and the fact that they put themselves in harm’s way on a daily basis. But more often than not the police arrive to a crime scene well after any prevention is possible. It is your responsibility to protect yourself and your loved ones from harm with every tool at your disposal. A firearm, even if it is only used for self defense and you never intend to hunt anything, is your best bet at deterrence and might possibly be the only thing that can save your life against a determined attacker.
Every gun owner should take advatage of any training they can obtain, and practice as often as is possible and affordable. Marksmanship, especially under stress, is a perishable skill. Without practice your skill diminishes. Since even in a self defense situation you are responsible for the end result of every round fired, ensuring that all of your rounds end up in your target is more than just important, it might prevent a tragic accident during a self defense shooting.
Any unauthorized person in your home must be assumed to be willing to harm you as the prison sentence they face for simply being there is felony time at minimum. If they carry any weapon, I would shoot. A knife is equally, if not more, lethal as a handgun inside of 21ft. That is the standard for police when dealing with a knife weilding assailant. Never let them get that close. A baseball bat is as deadly as any gun, just at a shorter range. But take a look around your home… just how quickly could a person reach you upon entering your home? What would you do if they were armed with a gun? A knife? A bat or crowbar? The answer is, or should be, always the same… you fight for your life and to stop the intruder. The most effective method available to most people is a firearm. Self defense is a natural right of every living being on earth, including you.
Very well put Mr. Greer. Couldn’t have said anything more to be said
Shouldn’t have been in her house lookin’ for “his money.” She obviously didn’t have “his money.” If he would have gotten a job and earned “his money” he wouldn’t have got shot by a lady protecting “her money.”
How he gonna get HIS MONEY!! HIS MONEY!! That comment is so laughable.
Hope she got him before he put any more of his kind on the welfare rolls!!
“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
With a mother telling him it’s okay to steal other people’s property, if he hadn’t gotten killed this time, it would have happened eventually. No wonder this kid’s dead. Great parenting, lady. You might as well have shot him yourself. How many more of her children will end up the same way because of “hood” values?
Mother Harris said one of the dumbest things ever, trying to justify her son’s criminal behavior. The next closest might have been after a boxing match between Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield. Tyson was disqualified for biting off a piece of Holyfield’s ear and, after being warned by the referee not to do it again, bit his other ear. Don King, boxing promoter of Tyson vs Holyfield II, who owned a piece of Tyson, was interviewed right after the disqualification. King said that Tyson was justified in biting Holyfield because Holyfield head-butted Tyson, although, after a short time he recanted.
If your stupid enough in today’s world, to invade someones home., especially an armed senior citizen, you damn well deserve to pay the price..Shows his upbringing.
Well, another one’s down, another one’s down, another one bites the dust.
Why is it that you always hear that the criminal/thief was a good person and was starting to turn his life around. And “how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school?” The asshole got what he deserved.
Kind of hard to say you fear for your safety when you go looking for the person who just broke in your house…
In a home break in, especially if you call the cops, you hunker down in your room with the gun pointed at the door (if you need to get kids or something that’s different.) You don’t go around crying to clear the house, or looking for a confrontation, because you don’t know if there is more than one person, how they are armed, how dangerous they are, if they are insane or on drugs, etc. All reputable self defense schools teaches this.
And if she did shoot him as he was leaving through the window, that is despicable and immoral. That is not self defense, if anything it is murder. You don’t kill people over money (especially if like it appears in this case, the kid may not have taken anything.)
But as for what the cousin of the burglar said, “look at it from the point of view of a kid growing up in the hood. How’s he supposed to get cool clothes for school?” Are you fucking kidding me? Did you really just say that out loud? To a NEWS AGENCY no less, that will be broadcasting your words to possibly millions of people? Is that really how people think? That because you don’t have something you are entitled to break the law, and take it from someone else who earned and payed for it? Maybe he should have sold one of those two chains he was wearing in the picture. Or better yet, GOTTEN A JOB.
Hey Steve in Texas you have a right to defend your life or your PROPERTY.
From what I read an altercation broke out after she confronted him. Had he laid on the ground till the police arrived this would not have even made the news.
If someone is rummaging through my house they are going to be shot. One has to assume an individual willing to break in is dangerous and has no regard for the law. I would not sit outside and wait for the cops to come. I would confront the individual. This is my home and the dumbass doesn’t belong there – regardless of whether his family feels he has a right to steal from me so he can buy some clothes. Hopefully other dumbasses get the message and consider working for something is safer than committing felonies. By the attitude of his family members I would guess they are beyond comprehending right from wrong.
Consider this nothing more than a Darwin filter. Some people should not be passing on their genes.
If that it not their way of life why do you think steel gates and window protections are used in Black Neighbourhoods? In Chicago 25 yrs. and lived in changing neighborhood. Not very nice.
It is insane to even remotely condemn the victim for killing this piece if crap.
I will shoot anyone to protect my property and my loved ones.
And I urge everyone to stop with the touchy-feely attitude toward criminals.
IF THEY LIVE BY THE SWORD, THEY SHALL DIE BY THE SWORD.
And if this little scum bag had succeeded in the burglary, or even sexual assault on the homeowner, what do you tell the victim.
What if he had killed the woman?
Liberal douchebag judges would have given him a tiny little tax payer funded vacation, where he would be right back on the street, doing it to someone else.
I say, if they come into your home, IT’S OPEN SEASON.
Oh well….
I say good for her! And hey, there is one less low-life in the world.
And these people reproduce! The depth of ignorance and implied entitlement is staggering.
There’s an interview with a neighbor of his the media has quashed. A mother of one of his friends told a reporter that she would have hidden him from the law even if he killed a cop. She then said killing a cop isn’t that bad. The reporter was stunned for a few seconds and had to cut the interview. I saw it along with the stupid sister’s excuses interview, but now I can’t find it ANYWHERE!!!
Florida statutes Chapter 776 deals with Justifiable Use of Force. It’s pretty clear that the woman was justified. The thug was in her home in the process of committing a forcible felony (burglary). He was in her home, so she’s covered under 776.013(1). He was committing a forcible felony, so she’s covered under 776.031(2).
What is the most disappointing is that none of the media interviewing the family felt any need to challenge the obvious insanity of their claim.
Good for her – about time. She had been burglarized before and took action. The good outstanding citizens might think twice now about breaking into her home.
My mother who is 75 has decided to walk in her own home with a gun in her pocket. Why should an elderly person have to do this??? In her own home. Then someone comes in and you’re not justified to protect yourself? The criminals have more rights than a law abiding citizen. Keep it up liberals. Until it happens to you then you’ll sing a different tune
Don’t worry. With crime the way it is these days, we’ll be converting more and more “liberals”. Do you know what a neoconservative is? That’s a liberal who go mugged on the way to work.
If this women gets charged we should RIOT. I am sorry to say we have to stop this low but this is the only the working class is going to have any rights left, because the police don’t. Share my comment on Facebook,etc. and organize a protest if you agree. Otherwise we should just go ahead and bend over.
This case is the perfect example why we need to get together and influence a change in our legal system that makes it acceptable to protect ourselves from the scumbags our weak justice system refuses to.
My parents bought my clothes, from clearance racks when necessary, and they would disown me for victimizing an old lady instead of helping and protecting an elder. They never would take help even if it meant slicing the last hotdog up in ramen with green onion to make it go around. Taught me to take care of myself so I could have to help others.
You can bet your bottom dollar that if the home owner didn’t shoot, word about a “safe target” would spread like wildfire. Forget about “beware of dog” signs; “beware of homeowner” should be taught early, and often, just like “stranger danger.”
Why did she not just give him her debt card so he could go shopping for clothes for collage.? As the girl said this is the hood where is he going to get money for clothes ?
She did him a huge favor,now he won’t have to shop for clothes and shoes now he can contribute to worm nourishment. Worms gotta eat yo
“She spotted Johnson as he was attempting to climb out of a window.”
If that is a fact home owner may have a legal problem. If he was attempting to leave,with or without her stuff, she could not have reasonable concern about her safety. Most stand your ground laws still require that the defender have reasonable concern. Seems the main difference with new laws and previous laws is that the victim now doesn’t have to make a reasonable effort to remove himself from harms way before using deadly force. With all these folks running out to arm themselves there are going to be a lot of them left wondering “what did I do wrong”. Fact that one can now easily own a weapon and has new encouragement to stand their ground doesn’t mean they can just start firing away without any thought.
Seriously? You, Dusty and a half dozen others jump to conclusions because you couldn’t wait for your brain to catch up with your stupidity… She did not shoot the suspect in the window… R-E-A-D, C-O-M-P-R-E-H-E-N-D, then R-E-A-C-T.
She, now follow along here fellas; spotted Johnson as he was attempting to climb out of a window, there was a confrontation, the homeowner fired one fatal shot. Where did it say she shot him climbing out the window, fleeing, or anything but in the middle of a confrontation????? That is right, it did not say anything like your versions. Dumbasses ..
Thank You!
As a Journalism Major (didn’t like what I was seeing in 1979 so I went back in to grape farming with my Parents) I can attest to the FACT that most people can’t be bothered to read carefully and extract the sanguine information.
Additionally, I do not care if he was white, yellow, black or any combination thereof. A thug is described by her/his behaviors, not his ethnicity.
Who are you to tell people what they can and can not do?? People like you are the reasons why American’s incarnation rate is 6 times higher per GOP than the second worst country in the world!!!! That and the fact our judicial system is totally weak and allows these scumbag back on the street to influence the next generation to commit crime for the of wasteful government capitalization!! This 17 year old is a victim of this evolving scum bag culture as result the spreading scum diease that fears no conquences.
IF THIS IS YOUR WAY OF THINKING YOU DONT WANT TO BRING YOUR ASS IN MY HOUSE UNINVITED BECAUSE YOU WILL LEAVE IN A BODY BAG AND THAT COP WHO SAID YOU SHOULD NOT DO ANYTHING BUT CALL THEM WELL WE CAN ALL REST EASY KNOWING HE IS IN MIAMI BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE YOU COULD BE DEAD IF THEY ARE IN YOUR HOUSE AT THE TIME HE IS A MORON IF THEYARE NOT IN YOUR HOUSE THAT IS IS A NEW TWIST BE CALM IF YOU KNOW THEY ARE OUTSIDE CALL 911 THEN SET YOUR SELF UP TO TAKE HIM IF HE SHOULD GET IN BEFOR THE POLICE ARRIVE ANY WAY YOU CAN TO PROTECT YOUR SELF FROM HARM
FWIW- Case law like Tennessee v. Garner has held that in property crimes- a fleeing (retreating, not visibly armed) person does not pose the threat justifying use of deadly force. There are other considerations… time of day, age of victim, victim’s perception of subject’s actions, belief suspect is or will be armed et al.
As posted, police response is reactive- they are not likely to be there when they are most needed. Sometimes folks have to deal with ‘problems’ before the assistance can arrive. When citizens ask me if they should own a firearm for self defense, I usually ask if they know the average response time of their local agency to high priority calls and how long they can hold their breath if being strangled, or bleed if stabbed. If the answer to the second is less than the first, I suggest they have answered their own question.
TN vs Garner only applies to Police. This case has no bearing om citizens.
Constitutional Law 101
Despite all the rhetoric on either side the fact remains is that – – -” NO INVASION INTO SOMEONE ELSE’S CASTLE – – – NO DEATH – – – NO DISCUSSION ABOUT AN EVENT THAT NEVER HAPPENED ! ! ! This politically correct crap of blaming the victim started well over half a century ago and has permeated the ignorance of the wimps in this country and globally ! “IF YOU DO SOMETHING THAT INVOLVES RISK YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT YOU CANNOT CONTROL THE RESULT” Well this punk took the chance he wouldn’t get caught and paid the price whether the woman in the heat of the moment made a bad choice. SO IF THE SCUMBAG HADN’T BROKEN IN SHE WOULD NEVER BEEN FORCED INTO MAKING A DECISION ALL IDIOTS WHO BLAME HER ! ! ! And yesterday a post similar to this was never picked up by GUNSAMERICA – – – censorship wimp idiot at the comments section ? ? ?
Florida, stand behind the home owner. You have the right to protect your hard earned property and your family from someone who you have no idea what their intentions are when found in your home. One of the only places you can and should feel safe and secure.
There were probably more rounds in this homeowner’s gun. So what society needs is an education campaign aimed at the criminal class, “Bring your family to work with you.” Then armed homeowners can start eliminating whole clans of vermin instead of just individuals.
Black ghetto punks, white trash meth-head punks, illegal immigrant punks–doesn’t matter. Time to start removing the pestilence from our land.
When seconds count, the police are usually minutes away! Not a criticism but justification for what she did!
The hood boy was a pice of shit and got exactly what he deserved. I would have shot him 17 times just for good measure! Sounds like his family could use a little lead too, scum bags all of them!
Maybe he should try a job for money,More Progressive Bull Shit!!
You don’t ffin shoot an intruder in your house!! after all it’s a public space! When someone breaks in, you wait n see whether they wanna rape or kill or steal and once they’re done you ask them to make sure they don’t want any other services, give em all your money, food etc.. and a safe ride home!!! Be sure to thank them and say “Please come again”!
It’s almost funny. “You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.” So, let me get this straight.. Because he comes from “Da Hood”, it’s OK for him to steal from others? Seriously? It’s sad that the kid got killed, but he obviously had done this before, and would have continued to do so, apparently thinking that it was his “right” to steal from others. Did his relatives learn from this? Apparently not, setting up yet another tragedy.
Caution to readers; know the law before you shoot! If kid was leaving, and she confronted him, that is legally considered escalation on her part. If she can prove that he went for her, or a prosecutor can’t prove he didn’t, she’s ok. As much of a scumbag as he is, an exiting or fleeing perpetrator is not a legal target, as there is no reasonable fear of death or grave bodily injury. I doubt that anything will come of it, especially considering Florida’s castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. But there I often a thin margin between a legitimate self defense shooting and murder/ manslaughter charge. I carry, I will shoot if needed, but not just because I’m pissed off or tired of being burglarized.
Absolutely, 100% incorrect!
Castle doctrine law(s) allow for the use of deadly force when an intruder is IN you home; the home owner DOES NOT have to retreat, regardless of the (unknown) intentions of the coming or going perpetrator. When you are a woman and you fear for your life and are not in the commission of a crime, you have every right to use deadly force (in FL & TX anyway) protect yourself AND your property.
You (and everyone else) should read up on your state’s castle doctrine/self defense laws before you give unsolicited advice.
Plain and simple, more of the thugs shot and killed, might just be a deterrent, while at a minimum, it will certainly mean less of this trash to take out at the end of the day. We don’t work hard, all our lives, so some POS “From the Hood” can steal it. He ended up with exactly what he deserved.
Apparently he’s no alchemist – he couldn’t turn that lead into gold…
The old lady deserves an AWARD!!!! If you don’t want anything wrong happening to you, you don’t go doing wrong, SIMPLE!!!! Breaking in someone’s house, its a crime, and that makes him a CRIMINAL!!!!
She saved the taxpayers a lot of money and was completely justified in shooting him
If you look at this and all current shooting incidents it does not come down to a legal person using a firearm, it comes down to a failure on the part of parents to raise their kid properly. This felon was not raised to respect others property.Even the idiots still alive a mouthing that they have a right to take others materials because they want clothes. That is what Goodwill and the Salvation Army are for. Stop prosecuting law abiding citizens and enact a new law. If your idiot child screws up and they are 21 or less, the parents should have to pay reparations. There will be a lot fewer idiots roaming the streets because either they will stop reproducing or the kids AND their parents will be in jail together. Anyone, no matter how stupid can have a kid and then they expect ‘a village’ to raise it for them. Since they don’t raise them right, they want to limit our freedoms more and more so their undisciplined animal kids have fewer and fewer temptations.
The home owner was 100% justified in shooting the burgler. The burglars parents are 100% at fault for not raising their family with moral standands. I thought it was quite interesting how the burglars family was making excuses for not raising their children correcly, and tryin to blame the home owner for their lack of child rearing. The parents are complete idiots!
Sorry to say that was his sisters/cousins/ who knows, but neither were old enough to be mom or mom… where is dad? Anyway dumb seems to have been in the gene pool by the statements made by these two “family members”. This man/kid was in tech collage I am sure they have a work program with local businesses. So why no get a job to pay for your clothes? Or trade in the bling for a book? Whatever the deal you stop stupid one crime at a time, you steal from the wrong place you get shot, you break in the wrong place you get shot, you assault the wrong person you get shot pretty soon less crime stats.
If someone was breaking into my home, they have to assume the risk of deadly physical force. I listen to those who said he grew up in the hood, so they think this is OK to go into someone home a burglarize, to commit a crime and commit a theft. Maybe they should be reeducated as to what could happen and I would not care if he was a teen or not. If someone entered my home I would definitely think they would not care for life or limb of the owner. To bad for the little theft, take some responsibility for his actions.
Hmm. How many illegitimate kids does ‘Nautika’ have? And how many felony/misdemeanor convictions? Now of course I I know that’s racist. I just can’t help myself tho’. See: I’m an attorney at law who feels practically psychic by now, when confronted by such as ‘Nautika’.
And I’ll bet the rent that the only reason this hasn’t become ‘Zimmerman II’ is because the shooter is Black. And the video’s damning.
One less lowlife thug.
You are so right! It’s amazing how our LIBERAL media treats the “race card” when the victim is NOT white.
WOW, he had goals – one of which was to rob peoples houses and take things that didn’t belong to him. He sure sounds like a real winner to me. Now there’s another P.O.S. off the streets.
The dirt bag is dead. Now the living must live on knowing that:
A. His family should have done a better job at raising him
B. The victim has been forced into the position of taking a human life
Obviously the family is taking the position that it’s all the victim’s fault, otherwise they are forced to admit that it’s their fault. Government cannot escape culpability either as it is a “welfare for all” mentality that has created the welfare slavery that engenders the entitlement mentality that caused this “fine young man” to be “forced” to steal because “how else he gonna get money?” Now the victim will be forced to defend herself again in the “justice” system.
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Horse puckey. Gene pool pollution removed. Of course he’s black so I must be racist. Come break into my house and I’ll show you how colour blind works…
Prayers go to the homeowner, no one really p!ans on taking another person’s life, no matter how much we train. Prayers to the boys family for being the typical didn’t du nuffin, not my fault no sense dumba$$ mentality that society has created. Those of us who actually contribute to society are fed up with being victimized on our paychecks and our homes. That mother should be taken to the woodshed for her “hood mentality” because that is what killed her son. It wasn’t the homeowner, it wasn’t the bullet, it was the mentality of “it ain’t my fault I’m poor, it’s white privilege, take it from them, reparations for slavery”. Screw that. Was theft the only thing on his mind? Who knows, that may have changed from one second to the next. Enough is enough. Thug punk crooks, from the hood to the trailer park and everywhere in between, you are being put on notice, ” We are mad as hell and we’re not taking it anymore!!”
They need to take voting rights away from what I call Non citizens.
This includes Illegals ,Those on welfare for over a year and those who haven’t worked in over 2 years – other than those that are retired.
Texas allows you to defend both persons and property thank goodness.
You didn’t work for it, it’s not yours and if you try to take it you run the risk of loosing everything (your life)
I”m retired and can’t afford to replace things if they get stolen, so I”ll do what I gotta do to keep what is mine.
Now if we can just get the stupid law that allows law-enforcement to steal your property and money without justification repealed Texas will be one of the best places in the US to live.
We all make choices in life and this kid chose poorly and paid the price. I will defend my home and family against an intruder, no question. This kids family is delusional, THEY failed him. Again, its the black community not taking responsibility for their own problems.
Of all the comments made here, Chaddwell, I like yours best. Key word in your comment was “choice”. No one forced him, he made a concious choice. The statements by his family show how out of touch with reality they are. Everyone has a right to defend their home. Intruders lately usually come in, assault, possibly rape, possibly murder and then rob the occupants. And it is not just that moment, but the incident lives with you forever.
This woman had her home broken in to multiple times. Is she not supposed to react. And, just an FYI, I am not WASP. I had the Hells Angels has my next door neighbors. I never locked my doors, they were always polite and when they had a function, they would come over and ask if they could use my parking. And they policed our area. I never locked my doors. But now i am in a nicer neighborhood and evryone is armed and locked, as LA, CA criminals have lILittle regard for life
No one in their right mind wants to kill another. Anyone who is in my home other than me uninvited has only one intent. To harm.
What would I say to the parents. “Sorry for your loss.”
Being a parent is not easy, but at some point you have to be the parent. You don’t like the local environment “MOVE” Just ask all our neighbors from our southern border. There our neighbors now.
I believe the woman had every right to shoot and ask questions later. Why is his family so upset. He should have been advised in his early childhood that this is not the way to get money for clothes to get an education. He certainly did not belong in the hood either. No way would I raise my children to be in this kind of situation.
Scratch one savage and future person on welfare career criminal off the list or predators
The Ten Commandments of God were written in SIMPLE and clear language so that ANYONE could understand them.
Even immoral morons like Trevon and his RETARDED relatives.
THOU SHALT NOT STEAL !
Anyone who blames his environment or his parents is a FOOL.
This THUG had reached and surpassed the AGE OF REASON, and was therefore totally responsible for his OWN actions, and the consequences of his BAD decisions.
These THUGS are out of control and need to be stopped, by ANY MEANS necessary.
Dave, it is also written that, “though shall not kill.” Personally, I would have double tapped to make sure. However, where do we stand as a society, were a a family member or whatever she may be, has the temerity to stand up and defend what this filthy criminal was doing and making an effort to justify, before the media, with near righteous indignation that the criminal should not have been shot. Hell, I will bet that a civil lawsuit against the property owner will ensue as well as the possibility of a criminal charge. The criminal charge is the funny part. No single one assistant State Attorney with a lick of sense would file a charge here. However, chances are that there is some lousy whore aspiring to political office that will charge her or try to take it to a grand jury for a capital offense indictment, just to advance their own interests and career.
The original writing was “Thou shall not murder.” was’t it?
Self defense and even defense of one’s home appears to be justified.
Many men who preached against violence still advocated self defense.
Yep. Original Hebrew – Thou Shall Not MURDER!, Killing for other then self defense, in war, etc, . And the punishment for those who kill others (for no reason; robbery, etc) were to be killed by man as their punishment.. So she was in the right in defending herself.
Also, the Bible says, Let the thief steal no more, and repay what he has taken…
Parents need to start teaching their kids properly. When God was taken out of schools, and morals went down the toilet this is what happens….
Not to nitpick but the true text is “Thou Shalt Not Murder” whole different meaning there. but the rest seems OK.
Never improve on the families statement that will beat the civil case.
Back in the early ’60s, when the late news would come on, the announcer would open with “It’s 10 o’clock, where are YOUR kids?” So sad that Momma didn’t care.
Well dey has to looks at its from the old ladies points of view. Shes protecting her home. Dat little shiithead didnt belong there. He was taught get ur money for dem clothes. Fer school. So goes out and robs a white lady. Well this is how it ends when u rob white ladies sometimes. Good riddance. Anothe looser my taxes dont have to support in prison while he watches cable, eats snacks and learns hows to bes a better criminal.
“How’s he supposed to get his money”? Seriously? HIS money? Just off the top of my head- how about having a JOB? As a home invader, only God knows his intentions; certainly not his female victim. She was undoubtedly thinking rape and murder. He was a threat and she neutralized the threat. No more-no less. Not nice to say, and not nice to hear, but his momma raised an asshole. He went looking for trouble and it found him. Justice found him too.
This dead black perp is the end product of socialism. What the democRats have perpetrated against blacks is horrific. They shoved them into poor, crime-ridden, welfare dependent, single-mom, low ownership, no future, government run plantations. The worst part is blacks fell for the scam: hook, line, and sinker. All the democRats have to do is waste generations of taxpayer money in order to keep buying their votes and bussing them to the polls.
I have to agree
Deb. Your an idiot. Nobody teaches right from wrong. Really. Your mother. Father. Friends. Teachers. Nobody taught you wright from wrong!?.Please. Prime example of this country’s going to shit. The warped since of wright and wrong. Fact. The kid was breaking the law. Laws have kept society’s from destroying them self since the dawn of man. Black. White. Green. Brown. Pink with purple poke dots. He. Was. Breaking. The . Law. And unless he was a total retard, he knew what he was doing. Fact. Again. He was breaking the law. He wanted to play. And he had to pay. No simpathy.
Sarge – no offense, but it isn’t a question of knowing right from wrong — it’s caring about it. The ghetto teaches entitlement — “I gotta get mine!”. So the problem is culture. Until the ghetto culture is somehow changed, nothing changes. The parents will feel justified in feeling outraged that their son was killed during the commission of a felony.
We don’t know the exact circumstances of this situation, but if this boy was actually in the act of trying to escape out the window, I kind of think they are justified in feeling this way. If, in fact, he had turned toward this woman, and was advancing on her, then it would be reasonable for her to pull the trigger. It’s a question of undo force or justifiable force. A person escaping a scene, and being killed in other than a homicide, is certainly an example of undo force, and many an individual has been convicted of 2nd or 3rd degree murder, or manslaughter as a result.
I’m not excusing this boy’s actions in any way, I’m just saying any judgement depends on the facts of the case.
You know from this info it just goes to show that Trevon was an Un-invited guest! and you can only fix STUPID ONE WAY. He was in the wrong place at the right time!
This kid made a big mistake. He paid for it with his life. He was 17. Right or wrong doesn’t matter now. If you are a parent it’s probably the worst thing that could happen, losing your kid needlessly. There is a huge lesson to be learned here. I wish people would stop acting worse than this kid by turning this in to a racist rant. You are diluting the message that some kid may learn by knowing what happened. You can die in a car crash by speeding, and you can get shot to death if you break in to somebody’s house. The message being, you’re 17 you don’t know a damn thing about life and you probably will see the light of wisdom when and if you make it to forty. Until then, this stuff happens and you can die. Now go do your homework. This magical lesson is called being a parent and being present.
How about your mother and father supporting you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why in the hell do we pay welfare and all the other freebees. Grow the help up and get a real life and QUIT being a mooch on society. You play the wrong game long enough it will bite you in the A$$. What in the HELL makes this idiot think it is okay to STEAL from someone else. You come into my place and try to steal from me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, God save you, because I guarantee you I won’t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a member of the NRA. I am a life long hunter and I also target shoot with my weapons that I carry. I live in Massachusetts, home of Smith and Wesson, about 10% of what they make is legal to own in this state. I am stuck in one of the top three most liberal states except when it comes to weapons. I know my rights, you have to if you’re going to carry. I believe the second amendment is sacred, but I see some morons that have no business owning a weapon.
What really pisses me off are the people who have written some of the most awful things about this kid, or anybody who isn’t white like us. Yes, he’s still a kid. Neurology has proven that most human brains don’t fully develop until their mid twenties. This kid is guilty of doing wrong. This kid was also doing what most of his friends do. Nobody teaches right from wrong, you learn as you grow, you learn from what you see, you learn what you can get away with. Now a kid is dead and it’s shameful that this is his legacy. The environment this kid was raised in sucked. Who knows the circumstances, I don’t know what life is like in the hood and I don’t want to. I’ve been dirt poor yet I never would have resorted to a B&E to support my life style. I don’t ever recall my Dad telling me not to commit crimes. I was more afraid of him than the police, yet he never hit me.
People who call us ‘crackers’ need to go no further than reading some of these responses. People are calling him a piece of shit, that he deserved to die, teach him a lesson. If you’re going to call him stupid, and what he did was, at least give yourself some legitimacy by spelling your opinions correctly. Forrest Gump called you on it when he said, ‘stupid is as stupid does’. By writing the things you are, calling him a monkey and ‘boy’, and I wonder what the editor left out. You are dragging us down to your level with your racist opinions. You are well within your right to say these things. I just don’t want the people who don’t know me, but see that I am armed to lump me in with you. If that’s how you feel about all black kids, tell me what your NCAA brackets would look like if their were not any good black kids. Hippocracy? Hey, you’re opinions are sacred just like the second amendment. So a kid is dead, was committing a B&E, not trying to beat or kill anybody, just trying to escape. Just a factual statement. Ask yourself, have you ever driven drunk? Lets just say a white guy was drunk, hit another car, nobody was injured. He decides a felony wasn’t in his playbook for the day so he takes off. The black lady in the other car pulls out her weapon and shoots the guy dead. Factually both dead guys committed a felony, nobody was injured, both got scared and bolted, now they are both dead. Looking at the facts we know, why aren’t we calling the dead driver a piece of shit, a menace to society, are you not the one who is going to scream ‘murder’ at the black lady. He didn’t deserve to die, nobody was hurt, he was just trying to escape…..How’s it sound now guys?
There is an old saying, ‘Just because you can doesn’t mean you should’. Coming upon somebody in my house climbing out the window is going to make most of us crap our pants. These writer’s who say I’d double tap him, I’d put one center mass, better to be judged by 12, etc. Bullshit. You don’t want to kill anybody with your weapon unless it’s your last resort and fearing for your life or a loved one. You will change your life forever if you shoot an unarmed person trying to get away from you even if it is a legal killing. You’ll pay thousands of dollars to an attorney to get you out of it even if it was legal. So cleared of criminal charges you now will face civil ones. Still gotta get that attorney, just ask OJ.
Lastly, I believe one of the writers said he can shoot anybody who trespasses on his property. He says it’s legal. Really? You own a hundred acres and some poor bastards car has broken down and he’s 300 yards away from you and cutting through your property to get help. Are you telling me you’ll walk free if you exercise your rights and put two in his hat? I doubt it. If you really believe that’s the case then tell Trump nobody has to pay for the wall. Just move to Texas, get your rifle, and start shootin’ anybody who tries to come in. It’s legal in Texas, right ? Illegal immigration solved. Please do us a favor and stop talking because people who see me with my rifle are going to lump me in with you, because they have the First amendment in their favor. I’m a proud American who is exercising the same rights as you; However I am nothing like you at all.
“…This kid was also doing what most of his friends do…”
Well, then most of his friends days are numbered as they SHOULD be.
Didn’t know he was black until I saw the picture. Never made a difference. White, black, pink, all intended victim’s lives matter. Had he raped her, oh what a tragedy…Too bad the cops weren’t there. Anyway, the worst part of this is you end up with gunpowder smell in your kitchen. I like the smell, but it bothers the wife. When I’m away and can’t protect her, I tell her if someone breaks in, I’ll replace the curtains, and sweep up the brass. Just keep shooting.
DEP: There is one thing you Don’t understand about what makes a society great or bad. That is an eye for eye a tooth for a tooth. If you are willing commit a selfish act that could potentially endanger someone’s life, you have no place in society. Weather it is a white guy driving drunk that loses control of their vehicle or a thug influence black teen breaking in someone’s house, it doesn’t matter he was escaping so he can live to do it again! If these people are continued to be permitted in society their influence of behavior will spread like a virus and become a culture norm that will have the effect it had on that black teen for example. It’s late I am going to be a little lazy and paste a comment I made below earlier to make the rest of my point.
The problem is this teen was killed by the growing and promoted disgusting scum bag culture growing in this country before he was born as a result of a complete joke of our justice system that is only out to capitalize on the tax payers by letting repeated criminals on the streets to influence the next generation of criminals usually hitting the teens. I am sorry this kid had to grow up in a country that the liberal party allows and nearly promotes this type of scum bag druggie culture with do what ever you want attitudes except be independent of government services such as in the case of protecting yourself. We need to acknowledge the lack of justice and education is what is killing those kids especially in black communities, the more we make fun of their background the more divided they will become from the white conservative folks and vote more disruptive scum bag liberal promoting laws/politicians in power. I could not blame myself for doing it if I was black and reading some of the comments.
So my final thoughts if we had a responsible justice 50 years ago especially considering drug dealers who I think should be killed or in a chain gang for life for first offense this kid would more than likely be a normal working productive citizen and the innocent such as the Miami lady would have never been victimize. For those of who that disagree I said it before and I will say it repeatedly the U.S incarceration rate is 6 times higher per GOP than the second worst country in the world that is England. The government get $33,000 per year per incenration per inmate based on 2006 census. The poor black/Latino communities are being used as ponds for government capitalization. Tell that to the next black thug instead of name call. It is too bad we do not riot to have strict laws for criminals such as Singaporo’s in Malaysia that has the world’s fastest and safest growing city. They spend their money on infusture and education, not crack.
Mr. Hey. I did a poor job of explaining my thoughts. Sadly in my state, the law basically says you can’t escalate unless you have no other choice. Again I am pro 2nd amendment, very conservative, and survived Ted Kennedy, Elizabeth Warren, and Barney Frank. I have the benefit of time to think of what I would do. Some lawyer may make the argument that she knew she would be broken in to again, so much so that she bought security cameras and a gun, and probably call it premeditated. I wasn’t advocating for the kid; I’m saying I hope my actions would be different if he were running away vs. coming at me. I wasn’t there. She did what she felt she needed to do. Lots of paperwork when you kill somebody even when justified. As many writers said, move out because retribution will surely follow.
Quoting bible passages (I’m out of my element here) of an eye for an eye is from an era thousands of years old. People should consider that before quoting. Life was different. The bible also speaks of gouging ones eyes out when witnessing a sinful act. The ten commandments are a seriously solid foundation to try and live by, but the sixth commandment shoots a hole (pun intended) in the argument. The bible has many metaphorical statements that are a great way to teach a lesson to mortals, and it has held up for thousands of years. Some of the most vile comments I’ve seen are being put forth about a kid, or a young man if you prefer. I could almost understand if the guy was a crackhead or murderer and a fully mature man with a long list of crimes. If people feel better calling THAT guy a piece of shit, a turd, a monkey, and a missed abortion, fine. Why do these guys call a dead kid those same names? I wonder what the editors left out. How many times was the N word deleted ?
Mr. Hey, I respectfully disagree with you that I don’t get it. I’m not asking anybody to agree or disagree with me. Like many others, I’m sharing my opinion. The people who post with comments about the kid being a stupid moron, and they misspell moron, well…. All they are doing is solidifying their incorrect assumption that white people who own guns are all racists just waiting for, begging for the opportunity to kill a black guy while standing their ground. I’m not like them, yet we probably are members of the NRA together. Sixth Commandment, will there be a reason to break it or follow it ? Moses did not carry them down from the mount and say ‘God wrote down a couple thoughts for us, talk amongst yourselves’. We’ll tweet him with our response. No, Mr. Hey they are and were commands to his followers. Would I kill if I had to? Yes. I pay the NRA to defend those I may not always agree with. If I could legally shoot somebody and I were not in danger, I don’t know that God would be pleased with me if I did. I find it incredibly ironic that I defend the woman’s right to kill, yet I condemn the racists for saying things that they probably should keep to themselves. Hey, first amendment rights can’t trump what you feel, most of us just wouldn’t say it. Respectfully, Dep
Thank you Charlton Heston and Paramount Pictures!!! for the rewrite on the 6th that was “Thou shall not murder” sorry for the PC ease of the topic “murder” around the family table or couch may scare the kiddies but “kill” is ok!!!
I agree with everything you say, but something feels ‘off’ about it. If I have a hundred acres, and see someone trespassing, I have the ‘right’ to tell him to leave, and then give him the chance to do so. After he leaves and I go back up to the house to find someone rummaging through my closet, I am not going to ask him if he needs a jacket because it might get cold outside. I’m going to ask him to stand still while I call the sheriff. If he bolts, I’m not going to check my closet to see if anything is missing. I can’t sit here in the comfort of my living room, and say I would shoot him. That should never be anyone’s first thought. But all these analogies don;t fit this case. I’m a 54 year old woman, seeing a young man in my house, I’m going to be near panic. In that case, I probably would shoot. Out of fear. I know nothing of his intentions. I don’t know he is 17, although it probably wouldn’t matter. He is still stronger than I am. You, I, nor any of these posters were there.The agony she is going to go through is nothing compared to the agony if she had been attacked and assaulted.
Agreed. I guess at 65 I am considered a “senior citizen” and I’m a little guy. Mad is never an excuse to shoot anybody or anything, scared is the only acceptable reason. Shoot because there isn’t anything else you can do. Stop the threat, no more, no less. If you have a feral dog attacking your own animals you don’t shoot the dog because you’re mad, you shoot the dog to protect your animals and yourself. This “kid” was as feral as that dog and had no interest in being “rescued”.
First of all your hit and run car analogy is not even at all similar to what tool place here, and an entirely different set of laws is applied to this situation and that one. Second I don’t give a dam what I catch someone doing when they break into my home their ass is dead. It’s one thing to break into my car or steal out of my office, but of you forcefully enter the one place my family is supposed to feel safe if my pit bull don’t get you my shot gun will, and don’t give me no dumb excuses about age if I was old enough to enlist at 17 then this kid was old enough to know what he was doing was wrong.
Do you think she say there and got his life story before she shot a intruder in Her Home? Surely nothing was stolen from her home because she shot him before he could get away with anything! You can be a bleeding heart for criminals if you want to, but Idgaf what age they are, if I catch someone in mine, they might have walked in, but they are going out on a stretcher! Don’t have to worry about the next home invasion by that waste of air! Problem solved.
Good riddance! One less thug infesting the streets and sucking off limited taxpayer dollars. I feel sorry that the female homeowner only shot one perp. She should’ve shot the entire family too!
Well said. People tend to vent their frustrations by running their head-unfortunatly. I think 3/4’s. of the ” I’d do this, and I’d do that” , are blowing smoke. Killing a person, under any circumstances, is a hard job for any normal person.
Stay there in Assachewsits ,NRA member or not , you have serious rectal / cranial inversion, otherwise known as headupassitis.,….from another NRA member you never want to discourse with, any more than you would with our present vp Wayne La Pierre,so do this, go lie down by your dish, someone smarter will come home to let you out into the back yard where you can bark at the moon, claiming you have done something special.
When the family of the savages & the savages themselves think this way, there is nothing that can be done to remedy the situation except to thin the herd. “He was a good boy. He was going to go to college. He was going to be somebody.”
HE was illegally in HER home! Which part of that do these people (and I use that term loosely!) not UNDERSTAND?
A very good friend of mine that is also a LEO stated to me years ago that ” if a person breaks into your home, especially when they KNOW you are home, are prepared to kill you, to do what they broke in to do.”
My brother in law in KC , KS stated the same fact. Yes fact! He has seen it more times than he can count!
Perhaps no one told them what locked doors actually mean? It means to keep your ass OUT!!
As for how is he supposed to get money for school clothes, etc? Well, how about sitting at home on his ass waiting for the welfare check to show up, like it has EVERY MONTH since his birth?
Guess he just got tired of waiting for that “citizen” to send in MOST of what SHE has earned her whole life, to be passed out to his sorry ass and those just like him!
I don’t understand the question? Mine would be “WHY WOULDN’T SHE SHOOT HIM?”
I wish the lady well. It is HER I feel sorry for, not him, or the rest of his tribe! She will be the one with the bad dreams for the rest of her life. Not to mention not being able to ever sleep in peace in her own home again!
If his mommy was so worried about him having school clothes, why didn’t she get off her ass and get a job, and then TEACH him to do the same?
I am sick of these leaches on the ass of society!
Well since I was born and raised in the hood if a mofo is breaking into my house that mofo is getting 3 pops from my 45 2 in the chest and I in the head. Just like my parents taught me I have taught my wife and kids. PS I wish I had her as a neighbor.
This is the best example I have ever seen for legal late term abortions. If not for the abortion mills we would have thousands more “Treyvon’s ” walking the streets stealing and murdering. Think about that next time you vote.
As I see it, Treyvon II got late term aborted just fine. Good shooting, homeowner!
This crime should of never happened due to the gift of ‘NATURAL SELECTION” Travon’s mother at the point of birth should of seen that there was something wrong with Travon and bit him in the neck and then hooved him to death in the name of natural selection. the retarded are slain at birth.
What gets me is the mindset, how he gonna get his money?? Get a job never came to mind? Unbelievable.
it be Miami man. What you mean get a job? Ain’t burglary a job? Facetiousness isn’t understood in Miami, not even at the U!
If they say he was such a good boy and liked school he should of been home studying and not breaking in houses and stealing stuff . I dont’ care where one is brought up in the hood or wall street. B& E is still a crime. His luck ran out too early in life. Where were his parents At.??
It is simply amazing at how members of the hood can justify criminal behavior. Had the home owner called 911, and the cops had shot this puke, there would be riots in the streets. All of these “hood”-lums need to be vapor locked.
This punk broke into this 54 year old woman’s house because he believed she was an easy target. I don’t care who you are or what color you are, but if you are found in my home not invited then your shit is weak and your going to make your mama and grandma cry.
Great news bullets are cheaper than courts.
Apparently being named Trevon (or Trayvon) destines one to be a thug and to get what all thugs deserve. Good riddance to bad rubbish!
It is sad that this young guy lost his life. He made a bad decision in breaking into someone else’s home. He probably had insufficient guidance in his life and he probably didn’t fully comprehend the implications of entering someone else’s home. So the result was that he was shot and killed. The homeowner, despite the kind of neighborhood in which she lived, despite that she was a female (obviously), despite the fact that she had made the choice to arm herself, she must have felt threatened to the point that she took steps to mitigate the threat. She produced the firearm, she confronted the threat, she took aim and discharged the weapon. None of that was, most likely, an easy thing to do. She took steps to protect herself from an immediate threat. No one should blame the homeowner and no one should celebrate the young guy’s death.
Amen. Well put Jim.
I feel sorry for her. It is not a decision that someone makes with out a threat to your personal safety. May God help her in what is about to happen to her. AKA lawsuits, and the threats that will come from the thugs that think they have a right to STEAL from you, threaten you, and take away YOUR FREEDOMS, YOUR RIGHTS, AND YOUR PROPERTY.
Johnson’s cousin Nautika is living proof birth control should be practiced!!!
Amen
His cousin “Nautika”? Does he have other cousins named Nike, Adidas, NorthFace, or any other brand names worshipped by these folks who value conspicuous consumption and what money can buy far more than any work ethic or dignity in actually earning one’s money?
Do we have all the facts? We just went thru this with Trevon Martin. Now we have Trevon Johnson. First question. Is that a current picture of Johnson. In the last event, they were posting pictures of a 12 y/o kid, not the 17 y/o hood. Did Johnson force his way into the house? There were cameras according to the article, what do they show for a possible threat. Let’s not go to the double standard on “Feared for my life.” either. The cops throw it out now like the libs throw out the race card. And it’s blindly accepted by the courts. Was there a credible threat shown in the video? What is the average response time for the local police. What were Johnsons’ intentions? Nobody knows. I’m guessing at this one, but I don’t think he was going to stick around for an exit/inventory/intentions interview. The point of view from the “Hood” isn’t a valid defense. Theft is theft. The kid gambled and lost. Regardless of the outcome of the legal issues, he’s going to stay dead. So much for his love of education.
All of the facts have not been presented. With that said, my interpretation of what was reported is that the homeowner was off site and witnessed the burglary from a video camera, then drove to the home armed. If this is true, she is guilty of murder. I am a responsible gun owner, and a second amendment advocate, but to intentionally place yourself in a situation that you could have avoided, instead of calling the police, is negligence on her part. Now, if she was home and the incident occured, then she was well within her right; driving home to confront a burglar will be very difficult to get a judge and jury to side with you on.
I don’t know what world you live in Kevin, but, are you just gonna set back if you’re at the house next door and see someone break into your house? Are you afraid of confrontation, is the property you worked for not worth anything to you? You’re willing to let someone roam YOUR house and wait for someone else to do,your job? I realize that police are paid to handle situations like this, BUT, be a man, hike your leg and show everybody your a boy dog. She is in NO WAY guilty of murder anywhere in our country, acting to protect herself from a known burglar, who needed money for school.
My God, where has our once proud country and people gone?
This is the outcome of the extremely liberal days of the ’70s, when nearly anything done by Negros was justified because their ancestors may, or may not, have been slaves over a hundred years ago. Course they conveniently forgot it was their Negro neighbors who raided villages, taking the inhabitants to sell to Arabs, who set up slave auctions to further sell them off. Another overlooked fact, slaves sold to people in Brazil were worked to death, because it was cheaper to buy new slaves than properly feed and care for the current slaves. Read your history people. The U.S. Negros knew the Brazilians would tell them to f–k off and probably kill the protesters. I’m so tired of our once great country being run by the minorities, instead of the plain language in the Constitution said we are a government of the majority!!
Thank you so much SKYGUNNER for telling the readers to read our History. When rioters and protesters are interviewed by the press. . .most aren’t even able to speak English correctly so I am not sure how well they would be able to read either but your point was well made. Anyway, I appreciate and agree with all your thoughts. Thanks again.
Kevin- read it again very, very carefully. No where does it say she was off site. Maybe she was in the garage, or in the side yard. She saw him on video (personnel device?) and armed herself, and confronted him. He “intentionally” put himself in a situation “he” could have avoided. I am licensed, and trained. Both in the military and civilian life. If I find a person robbing or attempting to rob or threaten myself or family, they get one option. Go hands up and yell I surrender. You say you are a responsible gun owner, and a second amendment advocate. That could mean you own a hunting rifle and want to keep it. You did not say you advocate stand your ground, castle law, lawful carry etc. I think you are suspect.
So it’s ok for the police to shoot him, but not a home owner protecting property and life? Here’s the solution. If you’re committing a felony and confronted by an armed homeowner, nurse, doctor, cop, dancer, psychologist, you should kiss the ground and surrender.
Sounds like she had an IP camera linked to her router to transmit to her smartphone in real time. I would add to that a “BurglarBomb”: It fires can of pepper spray to flush anyone out of your home: That probably would have stopped the burglary right there. Also it’s a good idea to get concealed carry insurance (CCAA or NRA). For less than a dollar a day I have a million dollar policy to pay my bail and attorney’s fees if I ever become a political football persecuted by a leftist media and legal system – as long as I’m legally carrying (this woman BTW was black so there’s no race card to pull on her, but if you’re white you can expect it).
This is the mindset at work: “how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school?” So, if you have something they want, it’s fair game, and you have no right to do anything about it. Just give it up. If you don’t, you are just a racist. This is the culture that has developed in this country.
THAT is the core of the problem right there. The mother is condoning the criminal activity of her son because he needs clothes for school. Obvious bad parenting. Gee, what about the clothes he’s currently wearing or may have at home already? Mom seems to think breaking and entering is justified because she can’t provide. Sorry folks, but you can’t have my stuff just because you want it. This goes all the way back to the caveman days. “Gronk” went out and hunted for meat and bushes to eat and provided for himself and his family. “Zog” saw what Gronk had and decided it was easier to try and take his food rather than go out and hunt for his own. Gronk beat Zog over the head when he tried to take his hard earned food. Zog won’t be bothering Gronk for food any longer.
This is the outcome of the extremely liberal days of the ’70s, when nearly anything done by Negros was justified because their ancestors may, or may not, have been slaves over a hundred years ago. Course they conveniently forgot it was their Negro neighbors who raided villages, taking the inhabitants to sell to Arabs, who set up slave auctions to further sell them off. Another overlooked fact, slaves sold to people in Brazil were worked to death, because it was cheaper to buy new slaves than properly feed and care for the current slaves. Read your history people. The U.S. Negros knew the Brazilians would tell them to f–k off and probably kill the protesters. I’m so tired of our once great country being run by the minorities, instead of the plain language in the Constitution said we are a government of the majority!!
No wonder he is dead so young with that kind of parenting. She’s lucky she stopped him with one shot. I would have put two in him to make sure.
Unfortunately, I’ve been in two very deadly confrontation, because both times the felons were also armed, one a carjacker and the other just a thug that thought whatever someone had, it really belonged to him, and he had a gun to prove it. Thank God I was either a better shot , and/or a little more in control of my weapon. I have heard of the double tap, but my philosophy is, keep tapping until he’s on the ground and no longer shooting at you.
By the way, after the second incident, not really being attached to where I lived, I moved. Oh yeah. Maybe one more thing in my favor, I spent two combat tours in Nam and knew I had to put founds down range and hit the assailant as quickly as possible.
I probably will be pilloried for this writing, like when we returned home, was called cold eyed, hard heart, killer of children, women old people, ad nauseum, ad infinitum. They would have described soldiers in the boonies correctly, because you had to be that way to fight enemies who would torture you if captured. BUT, the accusations of killing anyone we saw is BS!!. I can guarantee the people we killed had their life’s goal to kill us, so it was kill first and live, but we never went after people that weren’t threatening us and if people knew the Lord had given me a protector attitude towards children , or helpless people. If I had saw any of my bro’s going after children, I would have shot him and so would the best guys, cream of the crop of our generation, soldiers I crunched gravel with. Had to say it, the abandonment of our young, best soldiers the world has ever seen because of scum who ruled by intimidation. Still can’t believe American people acted like the French in Nam. They lost, it’ll cost to much to bring our soldiers home, so just write them off. Just like teddy Kennedy and his cronies.
Sorry people, it still tears my heart up, seeing those young soldiers, maybe a year out of high school laying on the ground, their life over before it began.! Then our entire country washed their hands of their sons who were only doing what their dads had done, protect our way of life.
I’m stopping. I could write a thesis about this. Probably not going to be allowed, but that’s ok, guys. No hard feelings, cause it don’t mean nuttin’!
SkyGunner. . .my neighbor is a 3 year Vietnam Vet snipper. The stories he tells and the pictures he has would make one’s hair curl. He lost many good buddies over there and is still plagued with guilt because they didn’t make it home and he did. what horrific memories for him and he has PTSD because of it. Having seen the wonderful young men on the Wounded Warriors commercials and how they have suffered from lost of limbs, nerve problems, brain trauma, etc, etc. . . .I cry for all of them and you as well. I am so very sorry you went through that and then many came home to jeering, name calling, being ignored by ignorant people, spit upon. . .I hurt for you and pray that God will heal all your wounds as much as possible. Thank you SkyGunner and all service men and women for your service and for standing up for the American people. Sincerely. . .Phyl
Unfortunately, I’ve been in two very deadly confrontation, because both times the felons were also armed, one a carjacker and the other just a thug that thought whatever someone had, it really belonged to him, and he had a gun to prove it. Thank God I was either a better shot , and/or a little more in control of my weapon. I have heard of the double tap, but my philosophy is, keep tapping until he’s on the ground and no longer shooting at you.
By the way, after the second incident, not really being attached to where I lived, I moved. Oh yeah. Maybe one more thing in my favor, I spent two combat tours in Nam and knew I had to put founds down range and hit the assailant as quickly as possible.
I probably will be pilloried for this writing, like when we returned home, was called cold eyed, hard heart, killer of children, women old people, ad nauseum, ad infinitum. They would have described soldiers in the boonies correctly, because you had to be that way to fight enemies who would torture you if captured. BUT, the accusations of killing anyone we saw is BS!!. I can guarantee the people we killed had their life’s goal to kill us, so it was kill first and live, but we never went after people that weren’t threatening us and if people knew the Lord had given me a protector attitude towards children , or helpless people. If I had saw any of my bro’s going after children, I would have shot him and so would the best guys, cream of the crop of our generation, soldiers I crunched gravel with. Had to say it, the abandonment of our young, best soldiers the world has ever seen because of scum who ruled by intimidation. Still can’t believe American people acted like the French in Nam. They lost, it’ll cost to much to bring our soldiers home, so just write them off. Just like teddy Kennedy and his cronies.
Sorry people, it still tears my heart up, seeing those young soldiers, maybe a year out of high school laying on the ground, their life over before it began.! Then our entire country washed their hands of their sons who were only doing what their dads had done, protect our way of life.
I’m stopping. I could write a thesis about this. Probably not going to be allowed, but that’s ok, guys. No hard feelings, cause it don’t mean nuttin’!
Wow, I’m not even gonna be allowed to submit it. Don’t mean nuttin!
Welcome home SkyGunner. From my father (U.S. Army Ret. WWII & Korea) my brother (U.S. Army Ret. VietnamX2) and myself (U.S. Army Ret. S.America) Shoot until your sure.
It’s a tragedy that a young man lost his life for breaking into someone else’s home. Today’s society has gotten to where you could be killed for a dollar so people have to protect themselves especially a woman. What my hope is that this will be a lesson to all as to what can happen if you choose to break into someone’s home or business. Remember, you could be the next statistic.
This is a tough call. There are a few more things I would need answered before coming to a conclusion. Was the intruder going out a door or leaving through a window? What was the distance between the involved parties? If he was shot while crawling out a window or was halfway out the door, the homeowner might have some charges or a civil suit coming her way. Would a “reasonable person” have considered the intruder a threat ?
So this cross wearing hypocrite broke into a house because he forgot that “thou shalt not steal”……………. So if he’s willing to break this commandment, maybe he would be willing to kill as well? Oh, maybe we need to teach all law abiding citizens to just let our things get stolen while we work our #%#@ off to buy these things we want, that others can steal, so they can buy their clothes/drugs/cell phones/etc…
Danny, they usually use the welfare checks for clothes-drugs…the cell phones are provided at TAXPAYER EXPENSE IE:obamaphones
Why is it that whenever one of these gangstas get shot they post of photo of them at age 12?
Because then O’dumbass can stand up on a stage and state, “if I had a boy, he would look like Trevon Johnson”.
This homeowner should be commended for saving taxpayers from having to fund the arrests, prosecutions, and incarcerations that this aspiring felon would have been responsible for in his bright future, as well as preventing him from breeding more of these unproductive, unappreciative miscreants. Actually I was surprised that he wasn’t described as a 17 year old single father of five, so hopefully he was taken out early enough to avoid that inevitability!
Do these people not understand how ignorant they sound and how they are reinforcing stereotypes when they say thing like, “You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.” This kind of talk should outrage any Black person who is attempting to be a responsible member of any community!
Dan, you answered your own question. Yes, these people are that ignorant. Such “disadvantaged” people feel that they have a right to take what does not belong to them because they can’t afford to buy such things. That they don’t work to earn enough money to buy those things, is unimportant. Solution? Education is often suggested to produce adults that are constructive members of society. This suggestion has been floating around since Noah’s Ark landed.
I suggest that communities be organized, communities consisting of people with the same mindset as the mother of that “innocent child” who was just looking for “…money so he could get clothing and go to school”. Once the new communities are built, high walls should be constructed all around with high voltage wires running along the top. Truck loads of food, and clothing should be sent to the communities to enable the “decent residents” a means for survival. This wouldn’t be all that different from the ghettos we that now have, except for the restraining walls.
The point? Young Trevon Johnson would find it more difficult to break into the homes in other communities to find money for a lifestyle not earned. One should think of the restraining wall as a kind of crime fighting effort. It might help one to consider this as being a “gated community” of people “who are not as fortunate as you are”.
Like Ron White said, “You can’t fix stupid.” 2 Trayvons down, how many more to go?
Might not be able to fix stupid; but you can eliminate its threat to society – and I praise this lady for doing just that! The only future that kid had was one in crime! The relatives make it very plain that the stupid affects more than just their 17yo superstar!
Oh yes you can! And she did!
I must say that based on what I’ve read about the incident, a minor was killed trying to escape from a burglary, nor a robbery. I’ve legally owned firearms for 30 years. I live in a state where if there were a confrontation, I will assume she would have been immune from charges. If she shot him as he was attempting to escape out a window, it would likely have resulted in some murder charge. I’m simply stating that this is the world we live in, not the one some of the readers wished we lived in.
I love hunting, I love target shooting. One of my instructors shared some of his opinions with us, he said this was his class and if you didn’t agree with him, keep it to yourself and politely engage after class. He classically stated that if you are going to learn how to live with a firearm with the sole intent of protecting your life and property, become very good at shooting at targets within 10′ of you. If you shoot somebody anywhere reasonably beyond that distance, likely there will be murder charges because you have engaged in aggression and not protection. Yes there are exceptions, but not many. Whatever transpired before you shoot somebody is not the question, it’s what you did after that counts. Calling 911 should be paramount as your first action, if possible. I’m not going to get into the mud on response times. You may need to demonstrate that you called for help first. Shooting was a defensive action based on impending harm to you or your family, it’s also one of the few legitimate times where you can say you ‘felt’ your lives were in danger and that your ‘feelings’ actually may keep you out of jail. The thought of spending and dime on a lawyer to defend me in court because I feared for my family, makes me sick. Yes, victims are subjects of a crime. If you shoot somebody who is trying to escape, not harm, you just made them the victim and you the aggressor. Again, it’s almost as if your meeting the burglar in the action of exiting your house is a clean crime slate. What happened before doesn’t matter, you just killed somebody trying to escape from you. The only possible justification that you may win that I can think of is if they were trying to kidnap one of your kids. Your training inside of 10′ better have been damn good if you’re going that route. Stay on track with me and don’t go down the ‘what if’s’ route. This is the reality of these stories, yes I want you to protect your family and will vigorously fight for your right to safety. If somebody is in your house doing something other than trying to escape you, then do what you have to do. All I’m trying to do is to clarify that if they are halfway out the door or window, keep them in your gun sight, but sadly you simply are entering a whole new realm if you shoot them. It’s the world we live in, not the world we wished we lived in.
If you stayed with me this far, good. True story in MA, where I live. I’ll keep it short, keep it factual, Google the rest. A wealthy business man tells police he’s going out of town for a few days. Please keep an eye on my house. He returns earlier than expected. Police notice light on in the house, enter the house, do not announce their presence. Business guy ends up shooting an officer through the door thinking he was about to be robbed. The outcome was in favor of the homeowner, fearing for his life, and doing what he thought was right. Sadly, the officer was severely injured and evidently permanently disabled. So being in fear for your safety can be a legitimate reason. Before anybody writes their opinion, read the story. There are lots of details left out by me due to space, but none that mattered to a jury in my left wing state. A plus B resulted in C.
Lastly, I’m ashamed for the editor of this site. It’s unfortunate that they will allow their forum to be a funnel for people who have used pejorative words, blatantly racist language and quotes using misspellings of words, phonetic words and hate speech. What possible outcome other than non-Caucasian’s assuming that all white people think and talk like this? We don’t like it when whites are all thought of to be illiterate, gun loving killers, any more than all blacks like it when they are thought of as illiterate criminals stealing from others. Your forum posts email that uses ‘ monkeys’ ? Why are you perpetuating the publishing of words and language that are going to incite hatred of whole races? Yes, I am a lawful gun carrying right wing conservative. Yes, I support the freedom of speech. But the celebration of a kid who got killed is awful. He’s 17. No, he shouldn’t have gotten away with it, but I don’t think he should have been killed. If he were attacking, threatening, etc. then bad things can and will happen. None of us civilians know the full story. If he was jumping out a window to escape getting caught, then the shooter was wrong. He is a product of his environment and it is this same concept that makes us a product of ours. My parents didn’t own guns yet I do. Yet they also raised me not to choose a criminal way of life, and I don’t. I did some really dumb petty things during those teen years as did most of us. I just as easily could have been that kid except it was nighttime and I had to go out a window to avoid be caught by girlfriends dad. I wonder what would have happened if he shot me?
I am not defending the criminal activity that happened. I am not demonizing the shooter. We all have the right to be safe in our own home. This criminal should probably not be dead. If trouble comes in to your home, know what your plan is before it happens. Would anybody who reads this rather have an intruder make off with their property, or would you rather risk your life or your families in exchange. I don’t go looking for trouble, but if it comes looking for me I have a plan. Yes, in the heat of the moment your may think you are justified, in your mind you may be justified, however when the smoke clears are you ready for what comes next? As for the people who would empty their weapon in to somebody, there’s a damn good chance that the criminal isn’t alone. Have a Plan B.
I agree with Carrier 100%. If the vitriolic comments in this thread were aired in a broader public forum, it would not only be an extreme embarrassment to to gun owners generally, it would provide powerful evidence supporting more restrictive gun laws. There is no way to justify the action of the kid that was killed, and he should have suffered legal consequences, but the shooter unquestionably committed the more heinous crime.
I thank you for your reply to this story; the clarity and approach you delivered is the lesson that all should read when posting.
Bla Bla bla. I assume you said something.
I’m 70 and most 10yr olds can kick my ass. Good shooting lady. Hey getto people. Obama may have passed an exective order “it’s ok to steal from the working class if you want something.” However…..there is a damn good chance you will get shot. Further more, until this is a five to ten times a day occurance, these low useable information people, will assume everthing is free. Can I write a run on sentence or what??
GO AHEAD MAKE MY DAY. IT IS THE LAW IN COLORADO. THE KID GOT WHAT HE DESERVED. HAD HE BROKEN INTO OUR HOME OUR RETIRED MILITARY WAR DOG WOULD HAVE ATTACKED HIM OR I WOULD HAVE SHOT HIM.
The problem is this teen was killed by the growing and promoted disgusting scum bag culture growing in this country before he was born as a result of a complete joke of our justice system that is only out to capitalize on the tax payers by letting repeated criminals on the streets to influence the next generation of criminals usually hitting the teens. I am sorry this kid had to grow up in a country that the liberal party allows and nearly promotes this type of scum bag druggie culture with do what ever you want attitudes except be independent of government services such as in the case of protecting yourself. We need to acknowledge the lack of justice and education is what is killing those kids especially in black communities, the more we make fun of their background the more divided they will become from the white conservative folks and vote more disruptive scum bag liberal promoting laws/politicians in power. I could not blame myself for doing it if I was black and reading some of the comments.
So my final thoughts if we had a responsible justice 50 years ago especially considering drug dealers who I think should be killed or in a chain gang for life for first offense this kid would more than likely be a normal working productive citizen and the innocent such as the Miami lady would have never been victimize. For those of who that disagree I said it before and I will say it repeatedly the U.S incarceration rate is 6 times higher per GOP than the second worst country in the world that is England. The government get $33,000 per year per incenration per inmate based on 2006 census. The poor black/Latino communities are being used as ponds for government capitalization. Tell that to the next black thug instead of name call. It is too bad we do not riot to have strict laws for criminals such as Singaporo’s in Malaysia that has the world’s fastest and safest growing city. They spend their money on infusture and education, not crack.
The woman was totally justified in protecting herself against any intruder who has broken into her home. The matter of race was not the issue until his family started making accusations and saying “How he goina get his cash for buyin cloths an goin to school” “That how anybody who raised the hood do it”. My opinion: Black, white, green, yellow or poka-a-dot, the woman protected herself, killed one intruder who will not have the chance to repeat the crime. Why did she have to shoot him? Because it is the safest, surest and quickest way to insure your own safety and stopping him from coming back again.
Once again the mentality of this group of people shows through. Yes they do indeed have a different mind set on right and wrong. In their mind anything they can take is fair game. That’s why sending them to jail or prison won’t change them, it’s in their dna, a cancer so to speak. What do you do with a cancer? You remove it.
The victim made two mistakes. First shooting him OUTSIDE the home. Second calling the police. Our society has been so twisted that the criminals are now condoned, while responsible citizens are condemned. In a world where you can never tell who to trust, I trust NO ONE. She may not have charges against her YET, but it isn’t over. And even if the “law” doesn’t go after her, it is likely the pathetic family will. If he had violated my safety, security, and privacy, he would simply end up on a milk carton. No mess, no fuss, no witnesses.
I have to disagree. First, whats wrong with calling the cops? If you watch the video she wasn’t home and “rushed” home when she got alerted from her video cams. She most likely called the cops then. Second, they said there was a confrontation in the yard. That most likely led to the shooting one would assume. This has happened several times to this poor woman, who seems to be alone in that house btw. You can only blow so much air in the balloon people.
Never should have named him Trayvon………………. obviously a bad luck name.
The news clip focused their end comment on not taking matters into your own hands. Rather than give an opinion they should inform the public of state laws, the constitution and right to use force to protect yourself and others and property. Opinions are not facts and the laws are. This is one more area where the news fails the overall public-in my opinion. lol
Why is everyone calling this thief and intruder a child? This lawless teen is just a thug, and many are armed. Watch the news on any given night. I have said more than once that if someone breaks in and gets by my German Shepherds, he will have to deal with me and Mister Gauge. If somehow he gets by the dogs and me, then he will have to deal with mama and her 9mm. Anyone with a brain knows that we all must protect ourselves.
I agree after a certain age you are no longer a child especially if you engage in certain activities…since wars have been fought men of fighting age have been enlisted or volunteered have been as young as 15 years of age and younger in some countries, so yeah I agree.
Hope her videocam caught the confrontation.Regardless,he should’nt have been there. Must have been pretty desperate to enter a home with cameras staring at him.
“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
She did, and now he’s pushing daisies as he should be. What caliber and where do I send a box of replacement ammo to her?
I started working at 11. My SS records go back to that age, so I was paying SS taxes even then. But…in the hood they just take what is rightfully theirs from the “white privelege” folks.
At home, our doors were never locked, and my dad had a sign on the window. It said “Yes, there are guns in this home, and everyone here knows how to use them”. I think the number was somewhere near 40 guns, with 2 parents and 6 kids. And yes, we all knew how to use the guns, and knew where the loaded ones were kept. At work, the loaded pistol was right below the counter, pointed out. Guess what? We never had to use them for protection – people were not that stupid.
One more thing…my dad always told us. If you fire in self defense, never leave a bullet in the magazine. Fire until empty. Only thing she did wrong in this case was firing only one bullet.
I disagree with your father’s reasoning but can see his point. Firing a full magazine, these day, may seem to a prosecutor and jury overkill, pardon the pun, and be detrimental to your case. On the other side of the argument, it’s sound advice, especially if you’re not trained to shoot in a tense situation. Otherwise, that was some damn fine shooting.
Always leave a few in the mag. You never know who is coming after you next. BTW, note that his name was TRAVON.
Double Tap!
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
“T Dat what de Prezident say I can dooze to gets mys crack monies!”
“Who’s gonna pays off mys crack baby mommas nows?”
This is just another example of the Ghetto Trash that has grown and prospered under the criminal administration of the Communist Progressive Liberal Half-White Trash Obomination!
These Carck Head Ghetto Trash Thugs need to be sent a strong message, mess with armed American Citizens and the result is D E A D!
I would personally like to meet the thugs that spawned and raised this POS and give them the same treatment!
One less future career criminal to mess with.
Come on Tom, you know “Trevon had goals… he was a funny guy, very big on education, loved learning.”
There are two issues here, at least for me.
First, if the suspect was in fact seen leaving the home by the homeowner who fired the shot, it is reasonable to assume the home invader no longer presented a threat to her. This may or may not put her in legal jeopardy, depending on the laws of that state.
“She observed a subject leaving the home through the rear,” said Miami-Dade police Det. Dan Ferrin.
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Second, the comments of the family sadly express the underlying values of the social justice, reparations sector of the population. That is to say, that what the home invader and burglar did is not really a crime, at least not a serious one as he is disadvantaged by his circumstances of birth. Therefore, the homeowner owes the burglar the goods he stole as it’s his only means of obtaining those new stylin profilin clothes that define him with his friends. She had more than he does and is guilty of privilege by virtue of having more, so she should just have allowed herself to repeatedly burgled and not complain.
“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
Gosh, I thought it was the parent’s responsibility to provide for their kids. Not to mention the many welfare programs.
Two of the reasons there are so few entry level jobs for blacks in many neighborhoods – black crime has driven the potential employers out of the communities. and open borders have flooded the market with individuals willing to perform entry level jobs without the attitude of entitlement, affinity for drugs and lack of respect for others.
There was a time when McDonalds was the largest first time employer in the nation. The typical McDonalds store is managed by a bright, young manager who trains and leads his employees. They are taught to work as a team and to serve the customers. However, now the SEIU wants to make McDonalds a lifetime job rather than an apprenticeship in business.
My doors and windows aren’t locked for [MY] protection. Just Sayin’
He did it to buy clothes? Is that what he told you? So you knew he was burglarizing but did nothing? Then mom is at fault as if she pulled the trigger herself. Didn’t report these violations? Sounds like aiding and abetting to me. Charge her too. If it were my kid, i would have beat him with a belt until he got some sense of ethics. He couldnt call the cops on me for assault or abuse, because the cops would be told why I am beating him. Just because everyone else is stealing doesnt make it right. But our schools are teaching our kids they are evolved animals, and then are shocked when they find out that animals dont ask permission, there is no right or wrong for them. So what good do all your laws do now?
If some dirt bag tries to rob my house you better believe I would shoot him.
I don’t care if he was raised in the hood or not.
Maybe theses people from the hood will learn how to behave if they see this more often.
And if they are not capable of learning, we should just keep shooting them.
Having been the victim of robbery several times but luckily nothing was taken due to someone being at home or me coming home at the right time. Still there is the cost of replacing a door jamb and door not to mention the stress caused by the incident. I work hard for the things I have and if I loose them in a fire or other natural disaster, that’s beyond my control. I have always maintained, if I catch someone in my home stealing from me, they will be lying there when the coroner arrives.
The homeowner should be charged.
Her life was NOT in danger, and he was LEAVING.
She essentially killed him for protection of PERSONAL PROPERTY.
I am from Colorado, and am an active supporter of the 2nd amendment.
Since is this occurred in Florida, I don’t know of the exact nuances of the law.
Either way, two lives were changed permanently from this situation…
And we cannot overlook the fact that every situation starts with a tipping point.
This tipping point was when the intruder ENTERED the home. It all starts with him.
As an example…I think Colorado has their law pretty well written.
You will ONLY be protected from prosecution if you kill someone IN YOUR HOME, AND you believe you are in imminent danger of bodily harm or death.
In Colorado, It is on YOU to convince the police and prosecutor of your situation when you killed the intruder…that is why anyone who is put in this situation would be advised to consult a lawyer before saying a word to ANYONE…after you called 911 and reported the incident…to ensure you do not say something that the prosecutor could use to prosecute you with.
Florida has a castle doctrine. In your home you can shoot someone in the back with their hands up if they have come into your home. And you should.
So Brad, you know better than the homeowner if it was proper to shoot? Most likely she was trying to get him to stay ’til the police arrived and he threatened her to intimidate her so he could get away (see I can use conjecture just like you). He initiated the crime and is responsible for the outcome. I do truly feel bad for him and the values of his peers and family that justify that if you want stuff, it’s OK to take someone else’s stuff. But this is an example of where that can lead.
well im an elderly person and I cant kick the tar out of a thief like that anymore……..so im going to protect my wife and myself against anyone breaking into my house……… im not going to stop him and ask him is he here for goods or murder and is he on drugs and will he promise not to do it again…… and robbing her like his sister says to buy clothes for school….. thinking like yours will get you killed by someone illegally in your house……. yes that’s the key word here ILLEGALLY……….
“She caught him coming out the window and a confrontation pursued”
I’m guessing you have a hard time with comprehension?!
She was well within her rights to attempt to detain this asshole until the Police arrived, if he came at her she was well within the law to kill this POS.
Would have shot the POS in the face two or three times to make sure he was dead.
Then I would have went and had a beer…F- this turd, he was well on his way to being a full blown “Thug”
You have lost your mind. Was she supposed to quiz him on why HE broke in her home?
Do you think a 56 year old lady could defend herself from this guy? How do you know he wasn’t coming back in after her.
All I got to say is I hope you or no-one else breaks in my home. Because I will not be in a position for a quiz. My anwser is if you dont want to risk getting shot DONT BREAK IN MY HOUSE!
You do not have all the facts, so don’t pass judgment. I too live in Colorado, ex-police officer, and we have the “Make My Day Law.” A woman in her home by herself, with an unknown felon having broken into her home, having had to put up cameras because of previous burglaries, having to get a gun to protect herself, was probably in fear for her life whether or not he might have been leaving or not. You don’t know what happened at the time of confrontation, what he said, what she said, maybe he threatened her. I have little doubt that she was fearing for her life at that point. If you are truly a Second Amendment supporter I don’t believe you would be so quick to have her charged. You sound more like the gun grabber mentality.
The article says there was a confrontation. There wouldn’t have been one of the perpetrator had just kept leaving.
The homeowner is cooperating with the local police, so I imagine if charges were in order, they’d be filed. But we don’t know what sort of confrontation this was, or if the perpetrator had placed the woman in credible fear of dying or receiving grievous bodily harm.
You made a judgment without all the facts.
“If Obama had a son…”
Just another turd in life – who’s toilet got flushed…
OOOHHH, it’s ok for them to break in and steal anything they want. Here we go with the double standards again. Where is our “fearless” leader and the rest of the rights groups???? Well, he got what he deserved. I am sure we haven’t heard the last of this situation.
How I got my stuff when I was his age? I worked, since I was 15. And I adapted to my means. I got an old car and fixed it myself when it had problems. I learned a lot of stuff at the same time. Now the leftards and liberals in this country think like this piece of trash. Poor things, they should be allowed to rob and kill so they can have that pair of Nike’s. You become a felon , you get shot. The only sad part is that we have more than 90 million of this welfare parasites living in this country. How are they going to eat when the shit hit the fan? Will they grow some food? No. They will come to steal from you, so be prepared.
“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”??
Might as well ask “How he gonna get laid if he don’ rape nobody? How he gonna drive if he don’t steal no cars? How he gonna get high if he don’t do no drugs?…”
It is Tragic that any child is killed. But for the family to say he had dreams , PLEASE Martin Luther King had a dreams, and it did not involve B&E and robbing someone,
The family needs to be held liable for his death, Or for better word his Father who we all would guess is a useless role model. Or his mother to lazy to get a job and content to live off the system. I am so sick of hearing Poor baby, He was not a baby he was a young man, a young man who had parenting but no guidance, no rules, no respect for the law and No chance. (The boy is the tragedy in this story).
The parents should be arrested for not doing what is their responsibility when they decided to bring another life into this world. You can not blame anyone for defending their life, home and happiness. I am a god fearing person and I would have ended anyone in my home and slept fine that night.
Prayers got out to the family but do not look any further for blame then yourselves.
Ron, as sad as it is. You hit the nail on the head. In the ( hood) culture that is the code of existence. It unfortunately is a way of life and hardly frowned upon.. as said, you have to see this from his eyes. Well I’m not sure of his mother’s education, but it is limited at best. And so, the comments are from individuals with the IQ of fruit flys. No comment here will change that mentality. Color or where you live, has some influence on your future. But ultimately it’s the guidence you are given. Unfortunately this individual had none. I would have thought that having a black president would have had some impact. On a culture that has remained violent and criminal, and mostly uneducated. But he made little if any effort in that regard. And just for the record, there’s plenty of other Felon producers out there. Not just black folk. In this case, the woman did what she felt nessarry. Should have , could have nothing. And this story will not stop criminals from doing what they do. Mainly because they don’t care, about you . Me or anyone else. It’s about the easy money. Everyone stay safe.
The detective is just spouting CYA propaganda “that the police should handle these situations” to make the populous “feel” safer. His remark also reflects the disdain that many cops have for an armed citizenry even though cops are mere civilians themselves.
On the other hand, the Sheriff of Milwaukee County told the people in his county to arm and protect themselves because his understaffed department could take more than 90 minutes to respond to a 911 call. The Sheriff’s honest statement is the correct view on how to make the populous safer and acknowledges the fact that armed citizens can help the police.
PS: great shot.
If they come into my house uninvited they will have to face the consequences and the fact that they’ll leave in a bag. I won’t scan their body for a weapon until it’s too late for action…. they’re here and up to no good and they’re dead…. end of situation.
why is it so many of these people are so stupid? what would she have done if someone broke into her home or tried to rape her? self defense is a fundamental reaction to fear. what makes them think they can break the law and get away with it and turn around and demand justice when someone does something unlawful to them? grow a brain people.
“Criminals thrive on the indulgence of an understanding society.” Never argue with an idiot. They’ll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Truer words have never been spoken.Just ask the politically correct politicians in Brussels.
One less welfare sucking piece of crap, now for the family. I guess they will go hunger know that one of there meal tickets is gone.
I wonder how the family of the dead kid would react if someone broke into their home and a firearm was available. I would imagine they would shoot and kill, then claim it was racist to rob a low income family.
what they are asking for is entitlement, not equality.
Yes sir! Go to work like the rest of us. If that was my home, he would be shot also. You have 0 rights entering a home that’s not yours. Victim – 1
Suspect – 0
How is he supposed to get money for clothes for school? Ummm… how about GET A BLEEPING JOB just like everybody else has to. I have to work for my money. So do 99% of us in this country. He was 17? I had a job and was working when I was 16. I know times are rough, but jobs are out there for those who are willing to work. Insofar as his death is concerned, I would have done the same thing as that lady. If there’s a stranger who is in my house illegally, obviously intent on committing some felony, I’m going to put rounds into his center mass. If anything the family should be apologizing to that lady AND the whole community for raising a criminal. Oh, he had a “bright future” and he was a “good kid”. Yeah, he was a “good kid” who committed a felony. How is that the act of a “good” kid? It isn’t. Unless your morals are all messed up like the family of this kid.
Monkey see,
Monkey do,
Monkey die.
excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mind-boggling to me that a family nember is so stupid to argue that this criminal was not in the wrong. She apparently believes that robbery is ok. No wonder the hoods are so crime ridden!
She was absolutely justified in shooting him! I pray I never have to pull the trigger on someone, but we the people have to take back responsibility for our own defense, just as these thugs and criminals have to take responsibility for their crimes! Our society has become so fixated on minority victimhood, that just as a spoiled child who has had no discipline acts out and becomes an unruly brat, many people from ghettos or poor neighborhoods no longer take any responsibility for their criminal behavior.
Things are too bad stay out of people’s house if it’s not your house leave it alone and the young ladies comment he’s raised in the hood how is he supposed to buy clothes not by stealing and breaking in people’s homes and tell police officers we appreciate them but how can you handle it when you don’t get there in time
Why did she only shoot once?
The answer is proper gun control, you know aim and squeeze.
45 caliber—–because shooting twice is just silly!
In the word’s of the great Tony Baretta, ” Don’t do the crime-if you can’t do the time “. I know several current and retired LEO’s and they all say the same thing in a case like this. Shoot to kill, “Dead people can’t tell lie’s ” and if he’s halfway out the window, pull his / her ass back in and shoot again !!! To many states will fry a homeowner over this if there is the slightest doubt of ” immenient threat / bodily harm ” —meaning if the shithead is running away from you { he is not an immediate threat to your life } then you are in the wrong in the eye’s of the law to shoot !! I say bring back public execution’s for criminals caught in the act-MAYBE { ya right } that might get the message across. OH YA–GET A JOB !!!
Ms. Harris’ heartfelt, and utterly insane sentiments are a micro-reflection of the anti-ethical, all-consuming self-indulgent, infinitely entitled social environment this POTUS has worked so hard to foster. Sadly, it will be his most enduring legacy.
Things are too bad stay out of people’s house if it’s not your house leave it alone and the young ladies comment he’s raised in the hood how is he supposed to buy clothes not by stealing and breaking in people’s homes
Perhaps these unfortunate souls should focus their felonious efforts (apparently just to get money for school clothes) on the homes of people who have more profitable items to steal. Start with Camilla Harris or Gavin Newsome, obviously they whole heartedly support this line of thought. They will probably open their doors for these eantrapenureal youths and help them collect whatever they want to take from them. Why stop there though, one has to get tired lifting another’s property, why shouldn’t they take a rest in the master bedroom before they load their loot into Camilla’s Mazerati and drive it home.
The woman had better keep a gun with her at all times in the future, as she will likely be targeted by friends & relatives of the dead burglar who believed that his criminal activities are justified.
time to start punishing the families as well as the criminals.
Of course you should call the police to confront the burglar/assailant because, hey, when seconds count the police are only minutes away.
He got what he deserved. He “had a future”? Sure, in prison with law-abiding taxpayers supporting him. She didn’t have to shoot him? Sure, she could have invited him back in for milk and cookies and kindly ask him to return her stuff. This is what is wrong with our nation – more concern for the criminal than for the victim. If you make a conscious decision to break into my home and steal my stuff I will make a conscious decision to see you check out of this life.
This: “You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
And: “… Trevon had goals… he was a funny guy, very big on education, loved learning.”
I can’t believe this person can justify this thugs actions by making comments like this. Well, if little Johnny ‘loved learning’ and was ‘very big on education’ there’s a good learning lesson him and the rest of his fucked up family; You live by the sword – you die by the sword.
The home owner needs to be presented with a public service award for helping clean up the neighborhood
Well, his family member said Trevon loved learning. The homeowner “learned him” not to break into other people’s homes.
I think everyone is in agreement the lady was justified. The time is now that EVERYONE is responsible for their actions no matter their situation. Let’s bring back the old ways.
I think Travons sister said it all – “I don’t care —-“
Of course – NOW they want the Police to handle the situation.
Yeah, let the police handle it. Then they can charge the officer with shooting a “poor, innocent, unarmed teenager”. Then we can have another riot in the streets. Read the statements of Harris and Johnson. They are obviously well educated, judging from their grammar. If he was so big on education and learning, surely he had to have learned that it’s illegal to enter a home through a window, uninvited, in order to take things that are owned by someone else. He also surely learned that in doing so, the possibility that the homeowner may shoot and kill the intruder. If the schools aren’t teaching these things, perhaps we need to take another look at our educating system. Of course, maybe they taught those subjects on the day he was absent because he was breaking into houses.
I is a black man and Is being thinking that be wrong to shoot the boy. He must need some more money for cracks to sell to gets his chain. It’s OK to go in to the lady house if you needs something that’s you don’t have. He might b getting something for his mom birthday or need new Jordans. White folk should not be allowed to kill black folk we better then white folk. That why they work and we gets free . I wish the white man man would go back to South America where they came from.
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ROFL we bes needin dem Jodanz MLK aint dah fo nuttin, He ad dat dreem, hez keeds aint be judged for the color o dey skeens, but fo de glistenin on dey chainz
I guess you can fix stupid !!!!
Yes, youCAN fix stupid. This homeowner just showed you how!
I am a strong second amendment supporter not only with my mouth, but also with my money. (you’d be shocked at the amount of people who say they are willing to die to defend the second amendment but won’t give a penny to support any one of the gun organizations out there that are doing the political fight for it) Anyway, I have thought long and hard about being in a situation such as this and it always boils down to the situation at hand in how I might respond. However, if we start second guessing home owners for what they do to defend their castle or to keep themselves and their family safe, we do nothing but strengthen the position of the invader. It needs to be well known, you DO NOT enter a home with ill intent without endangering your own life. If you are caught, you better get into submission mode quickly as you hope to save your own life. Does anyone notice that if criminals quickly went into submission mode when caught in their crimes, they would save their own lives nearly ALL the time?
Nobody has a right to break into your home. It doesn’t matter if they were raised in the hood or Beverly Hills. It isn’t right to
steal money from another person to “buy clothes”. I would have shot the piece of feces too !
From the attitude of his family, seems he may have been a member of Black Lives Matter. They also like to rob and steal and justify their actions with the race card.
One must always remember, you are better off being judged by 12 instead of carried by 6.
Yes the hood teaches take what you want the owner has too much and they owe it to you.
This short video on gun will explain why bad guys wish there was more gun control….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOevzjaZF8Y
I am an avid gun owner and i love shooting.
HOWEVER, you do not have a right to shoot ANYONE unless they are literally trying to attack you.
Too many idiots are buying guns thinking they will be the next hero going around playing Clint Eastwood.
Picture this, you see someone shoot someone else, what do you do? Shoot him? How do you know he’s not an undercover? Or how do you know hes not like this lady, who “justifiably” shot someone who was retreating. Or they could have just murdered someone in cold blood. Perhaps they see you draw your weapon, and proceed to tell you that they are a responding off duty officer and calms you down until you trust him and lower your guard juuuust the slightest and then BAM he shoots you too. The thing is you DON’T KNOW, what if that kid had heard someone screaming in the house and broke in to save them? I mean it isn’t likely that that’s what he was doing, but you never know. The only time you are justified in shooting someone is when they are either shooting at you, or charging at you with malicious intent, PERIOD.
Unfortunately by the time an attacker is charging you it is to late to think about the situation and you have to react. Why should you have to be beaten half to death before you can return force? If you haven’t ever been in a situation like this you obviously wouldn’t understand. I was left for dead by my attacker with my weapon still in my pocket. I got a horrible feeling and almost new it was coming and should have left my attacker lay victim to my 9mm instead of me fighting for my life with cracked ribs collapsed lung and too many stitches to count. I shouldn’t have had to fear facing prison to defend myself before I was attacked.
Hey man I am terribly sorry to hear about what happened to you, it is that predatory mentality exhibited by those few people out there that causes the rest of us, who are otherwise mutually respectful, to lose trust in fellow man.
And you are right, you would have been better off leaving that attacker filled with more holes than the asshole day parade.
But even though the result was tragic, to shoot someone who is not apparently trying to attack YOU, is to make a great assumption about the situation that you can not otherwise know about. I once saw a man being viciously attacked by another man, there isn’t much of a gun problem in the area, however there is a violence problem (like anywhere, I guess).
I came up and shoved the man and confronted him, which allowed the other man to get away. It turns out that that man had got his daughter into doing hardcore drugs, which led to him selling her as a prostitute in exchange for supplying her the drug. She ended up contracting HIV and killed herself. Her dad found out about the story, and he was the guy beating him. And although preventing the beating was the right thing to do, I had made a totally inaccurate assumption about the situation just because there was so much behind the story, that face value analysis could NEVER provide a wholesome understanding. Imagine if I had a gun, I would have shot a grieving father who was beating her daughters killer, and I would have felt like a hero, and seeing as the father would have been dead I never would have knew otherwise.
All I’m saying is its not what you don’t know, its what you don’t know you don’t know that gets you in trouble.
What state are you from? Obviously, not Texas where I can legally shoot you for trespassing on my property whether you are armed or not. Sorry to burst your bubble, but this lady was well within her rights as a citizen to shoot the intruder. At 17 years of age, did this young man know the difference between right and wrong? I should hope so! He dug his own grave and now he can lie in it.
“She shouldn’t have killed him!”
Well what should she have done? Let him go to return again?
Wounded him and have some lawyer sue her for all she has worked for?
It’s so very sad we live in a country where people think that wrong is right and right is wrong.
Where will it end.
We have a society that was groomed to think that the working class owes them a check to sit are their asses.
Wake up America, were going down the tubes with the Liberals greasing them all the way!
Thank God our Forefathers of this once great nation saw that we could protect ourselves wth the 2nd Amendment.
And Hillary Clinton would end this right the first year in office!
The article says the suspect was pronounced dead at the scene, but the video says that the suspect was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. Which one was?
This is the most politically correct argument I’ve ever heard why the Felon has the right to take what he wants, the only thing I didn’t see was how “racist” the woman must be ( I’m sure that’s coming) and you can thank the Demoncrats (yes I spelled it that way) for people who think and act exactly that way. An answer to that woman’s question: GET A JOB! I started working when I was 12, and yes, that’s how I got my clothes to go to school! I didn’t learn that it was everybody else’s fault and that the Government owed me a living! And this my friends is why those same Demoncrats want to take away our 2nd Amendment Rights, so that we can be the working/victim class to their voting base!
Well he wont be victimizing any else thats for sure!! He would still be alive if he had an honest job!!!
In the words of good olde boy Troy Landre . . CHOOT EM, CHOOT EM!
She did society a favor.
I wonder why y’all are referring to this thug as a young man? He WAS an animal who preyed on people.
You break into my house while I am there, you will be confronted by an armed me. I will call the police to have you removed. You don’t comply, you die. This kid learned a fatal lesson.
Steal for school money? Sure, he was a good kid raising money to buy his granny a new Bible for Easter Sunday service.
I think I have heard enough “dat da way of da hood” explanations. The kid received the ultimate hood justice. He died during the commission of a crime. Bye bye.
Criminals are the ones taking the risk of being shot. If you don’t want to get shot at…….then don’t go where you don’t belong! A homeowner does not know why you are there. They don’t have time to “wait” for cops to arrive. Stop being a thug, simple! How about the PARENTS start teaching their children right from wrong! The one idiots answer was “how is he supposed to buy clothes”???Really? The biggest problem is the mentality of people like this. He was a dumb kid and it is his fault he is dead. The parents should take some of that blame also, NOT THE HOMEOWNER!
the public comments from the victim’s family come as no surprise. government policies, especially over the last decade, have convinced certain groups that they are not to be held responsible for their actions. it is also the main reason for the increase in gun sales over the same period.
It is sad when someone dies. Regardless of the circumstances.
This village idiots family should realize though that sometimes this is what you get when you play the game.
They know this.
He just went all in while holding aces and eights and the home owner had a royal flush. Boy should have payed attention to history.
Sounds like it was a good shoot and I would have done threads thing myself. Break into my house and I will give you a couple pieces of my property as a reminder that you have entered the wrong house.
Now there is one less government subsidized domestic terrorist to worry about.
This “incident” is the final measure of a cradle to grave political system first initiated by LBJ and perpetuated by Clinton and Obama. For this kid, the grave came much quicker.
The scumbag got what he asked for. if you don’t want to be killed don’t be a criminal.
He was raised in the hood. How’s he going to get his clothes and stuff.” The home owner did him a favor, now he doesn’t need any more stuff. The home owner did all of us and the folks in the hood a favor. Given time he would have moved on to bigger and more violent crimes.
The woman saved taxpayers millions of dollars. The laws against burglars like him are a joke – they get let out of jail, time after time and keep doing the same thing. Years ago, the Miami Herald published a piece that showed thumbnail pics of a group of 12 people as being responsible for “80% of all home invasion robberies in Dade County”. Of course, since 10 of those were black, someone at the Herald concluded that articles like those should never reappear.
Home owner did exactly what was necessary. Burglar and his family better learn a lesson, you loot, we shoot, everytime.
And “how he gonna get his money” for that bling around his neck?
I don’t believe any one is happy to take a life and they will live with it for the rest of there life. But you have to defend yourself and family.
Someone once said, “It is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”.
Sandman, you claim to not be a racist yet in the same breath you tell us there is “A porch monkey in the White House”? Are you for real?
This fool’s argument by the family just encapsulates what’s wrong with this country. Idiotenspielen.
He got what all thief’s and punks like him deserve! Save the tax payers money and just bury them all! The typical liberal demcrap mind set, the government doesn’t give me nuff stuff so I take what I want and you have no personnel accountability!
Come into my house uninvited with criminal intent your going to be confronting an armed citizen. What happens then is on you, take your chances…I wont just like the police.
I don’t usually (well, honestly, never) leave comments on discussions. This is my first. I live outside Chicago, in Illinois, which happens to be the most anti-second amendment state left in the country. I am so fed up with the shooter automatically being the bad guy (or girl.) If I sat down and started self rationalizing “if I shoot this person, I am going to be sued, or I’m going to jail,” then I would probably be dead. This woman had her home broken in to, enough to install video cameras, and, in all likelihood, by this same person. They always seem to like to go back to the soft “honey spot.” Unfortunately, the media reinforces/fans the flame of anti-gun rhetoric, which happens here everyday with all the gang shootings. As for me, and my family, I will not hesitate to engage ANYONE in my home, at night, uninvited, and with unknown intent. PERIOD.
“If a thief is caught breaking in to steal, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.”
You can find that in Leviticus,,, you know, (the Bible)
Actually it is Exodus 22:2. He got what he deserved. I am a parent of 6 children and I cannot fathom the pain of losing a child regardless of fault or age, but if one of my children did this and was killed by the homeowner regardless even if my child was leaving through a window at the time of being shot by the homeowner, I would NOT fault the homeowner in anyway, period! I would fault my child first and myself second for not doing a better job of raising him (her). Also if one of my relatives made a stupid statement like Harris did I would bitch slap them on the spot!
Very sad, and those two idiots really think like that…. they were serious as hell.
Now that is what I call gun control , one shot , one kill or dead burglar !
“…very big on education, loved learning.” I guess he didn’t learn that home invasion is a bad idea.
Well he learned it the hard way. Maybe some others will learn from his experience and not go breaking into people’s homes. The family is right about one thing, she did not have to shoot him and I am sure she wouldn’t have if he had been in his home instead of hers.
I think that the way this young crook was brought up was reprehensible and the parents or parent should be brought up on charges of negligence and aiding and abetting a crime. If that’s the way all the “kids in the hood are brought up” then the kids in the hood need to be removed from the parents and families and brought up by people who will do a better job of teaching their kids right from wrong.
Also, I wonder what the cousin or whatever would do if her home was invaded by someone and she was robbed multiple times and possibly threatened. Would she just figure it’s what a kid has to do? or would she shoot him or her. BTW, being disabled a bit and pretty much aware that even a lot of women could easily out fight me in hand to hand, she should be happy to know that I won’t discriminate and will shoot any attacker in my house regardless of race, creed, gender, etc. At 17, the kid should know right from wrong and I suspect he knew he was committing evil and just didn’t care. There are enough crime shows on TV for him to be aware that society considers crime to be wrong. It’s the parents or parent or guardian’s fault the kid is in Hell for eternity. Sooner or later almost everyone raised like he was will be there too.
Well said!!!!
Piece of crap got what he showed up 4!!;)
Piece of crap got what he showed up 4!!;)
The mentality that would rationalize his actions, i.e. “…you have to look at it from his point of view…” ???? What???? That’s ridiculous.
His point of view could have been “kill the bitch” or “maybe I could steal her last dime” or “think I’ll rape her”. She was robbed before, maybe by this guy, and know he’s back. If he got away before the police got there, he could be back again.
How can his relatives even try to justify his actions. If that’s the thinking in the “hood”; thanks for the warning. I’m keeping my
gun handy.
Seriously, where is he going to get his money???? Get a JOB and WORK!!!!!!! The woman was completely justified in her defending herself from someone that was not invited to be in her home, you break into someone’s house, you have just forfeited all your rights.
Well said thangan, call 911?, WHAT, and say thiers a black man in my house, who came threw my window could you please get here as soon as possible, I understand he may need money for cloths but he might have a gun to threaten my life and rape me, please hurry, ya right, blow his empty head off.
He come in my house, he be dead.
That woman just stopped untold burgularies. The threat of death is a wonderful deterrent. The kids family is single handedly responsible for his death by propagating that entitled mindset. When people get tired of being abused this will happen a lot more.
That woman just stopped untold burgularies. The threat of death is a wonderful deterrent. The kids family is single handedly responsible for his death by propagating that entitled mindset. When people get tired of being abused this will happen a lot more.
And somewhere there is a enlightened liberal mind that sympathizes with the family and through the distorted lens of political correctness thinks a great injustice has been perpetrated against a minority race through the unneeded and problematic Second Amendment.
One less scum bag to pollute the gene pool.
Maybe he shouldnt be robbin peoples homes.duh.
My thoughts exactly! Amen!
People be to quick to kill young black men.everbody looking at this here with white priveledge .he didn’t got no gun or weapon.if this had been in boca and a white kid he would still be livin
white privilege lol! the privilege to work and pay for other lazy people, and then be victimized by them. break into a home you are a felon and deserve to die.
OH , I guess it’s OK to steal if you don’t have a gun. All thief’s should be shoot “Black or White , Brown , ect.. !
Typical minority attitude. Always so quick to pull the race card. The little thieving piece of shit got what he deserved
White privilege? No such thing. As for the killing, tell them to stop committing crimes.
Oh wahhhhhh, wahhhhhh white privilege bull crap again .How about every man takes responsibility for his own actions and accepts the results .
Amazing!! Truly amazing. are those gold teeth? no money for cloths but he’s got gold teeth?
When I was a child my mother was on welfare. my father couldn’t give a rats arse about my siblings and me. my mother worked in sweat shops doing piece work sewing for pennies a piece. I grew up in your classic broken home and I dropped out of school in the 9th grade. I was a misguided child. i started working when i was 11 years old. when i was 22 my first son was born. i had no education and no future in sight and there i was a father. i got work where ever i could. i went back to school and got my HS diploma. at one point i had 3 jobs and worked 7 days a week. 25 years later i am still at this job and my first born son will have his own first born in July.
the point here is everyone has a sad story to tell. no one has a monopoly on sorrow or hard times. sometimes we fall or can’t see the way but as i tell my children, yes i have 3, always be a good person in life. even more important than grades is respect.
i have no pity for this young man and i blame his family for his demise.
Hat’s off to you Ed , your my kind of guy. Good luck to you and yours , and enjoy the coming grandchild. You have earned the joy.
How sad that we have alowed a “sub culture” to grow in our communities that have created their own rules for existance. We see the effects of such every day in the 6 oclock news and we just turn our heads and tv station to something else. Its the wild west all over again. I don’t have a solution other than move yourself or them!
That sub culture thinks that there is no crime on the books that they can commit that they feel is actually a crime. They play the victim racist card at every turn. The only white privilege I know of was growing up with parents who loved me, taught me right from wrong and you earn your own way in this life (no free lunches clause).
I see people with their mentality every day, rob,deal or steal to get what others have worked hard to get.
“You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.” really? try pulling your damn pants up, losing the gangster thug language and get a flipping job! McDonald’s may not be glamorous but it’s legitimate money, and guess what you’re not going to be committing a felony working there.
bravo to the homeowner for protecting her home!!
If these little hood rats have the audacity to enter someone else home they have to taught. Obviously Mama Hood Rat didn’t learn them very well.
It’s amazing that his relatives are this stupid. You gotta understand how he gotta get his clothes. IT’S CALLED A JOB. Try it for once instead of being a boil on society’s ass. I can’t believe anyone with any common sense would back these idiots.
Was this his first break in, I doubt it, like his sister said “how else was he going to get money to but clothes”. Maybe like the rest of us, work for it. The fact that the victim had already called the police is a non issue, my home has been vandalized once, burglarized twice, once when my wife was home, It took the police a minimum of an hour and a half to show up, they cannot protect you, that is your job.
Would have gotten the same treatment in my home. Im a bigger stronger male than that 17 year old too. Break into my home where i live with my wife and 2 children….i take family protection seriously. This needs to happen more often. Maybe then these piece of crap low life wanna be gangstas will learn their lesson. Let all their scumbag friends think twice about stealin something again.
A great example of why this country is going to hell in a hand basket.
This article sums up the problem with our society. Criminals who feel that they should be allowed to do what they want without any consequences and people who see nothing wrong with their actions. Just like the interview I saw recently where a woman said “He did not do anything wrong, he only shot a cop.”
Absolutely correct. And it starts with our two biggest criminals, Obama in the White House and the Hildabeast who is lying her way in to it.
Yeah, now there is a classic remark!
hood rat got his!
Dese is obama’s people. I will bet they removed his Nike shoes before they hurried him.
The jerk got what he deserved, and the shooter did what she had to do.
BULLSHIT !! They should have revived him, then killed him again. Why is it easier to steal from hard working people then to just get a job ? When this happens, the rest of the family should be made accountable. Maybe that way everyone would “help” these people stay honest.
Well, when the police are being charged with murder for enforcing the law it leaves the rest of us to stand up and make it clear that we won’t be taken advantage of by ignorant lazy thugs. Let some more die to set an example and make people realize that there are consequences for doing wrong. If you don’t believe that come cross my threshold.
This type of the thinking by the family is far scarier then a home invasion. This unbridled sense of entitlement, that nothing is off limits, even others property and sense of safety. But make no mistake, we have been producing this type of thinking in our youth for years now. This idea that everything is owed to them, and hard work is unfair, is toxic, and completely corrupts an individual’s sense of purpose in the world. Taking a life is rarely anyone’s desire when they wake up, but those who steal from others, the same can not be said. If you steal from others, your are a predator, who lacks the ability to respect anything. And as sad as it may be that a child, who may have just made a foolish decision, is dead, this world is defined by the consequences of our actions and these kids need to learn a valuable lesson: work hard for what you want, respect others, and understand you are owed nothing in this world, so get to work.
Nautika, the genius linguist cousin of the gang done said, “he was big on education”. Anyone care to wager on what his teachers would say about that? Assuming he showed up often enough for them to remember him. You know, when he wasn’t getting an “A” in B&E felonies.
Committing felony robberies on old ladies so Trevon Shit-For-Brains can add to his bling wardrobe has consequences. The Pathological Entitlement epidemic in this country is a disgrace! Justifying felony crimes by saying some mutt needed bling makes this honest citizen throw up in his mouth!
Oh – sorry moron sister Nisha, but I can’t look at it from your criminal brother’s point of view. He be six feet under now where he can’t hurt honest people any more. His eyes be covered with dirt!
I agree with all of the comments here. Most importantly he was a younger, stronger male assailant with questionable intentions vs an older weaker female fearful of her life who had previously been robbed before. Who knows, maybe he was the same guy who robbed her home previouly and with that same level of ignorance as his family members came back for more? She did exactly what she needed to do unknowing of the guy’s age or intent that was in her home.
Absolutely justified / necessary. Enough is enough !! “how he gonna get his money”? try employment – it worked for me. To the 52 year old victim- please stay strong as I am quite sure there will likely be additional attempts at, at least, harassment if not more severe forms of revenge / intimidation.
This is the effect of long term welfare, food stamps, as well as education both civil and in the home that other people owe you something that YOU don’t have to bother earning. The belief that ” What’s mine is mine and what’s yours is mine too.”
I grew up poor. But I was never allowed to think that stealing was the way to fix that. If you needed something you found a way to earn it or figured out how to do without it. If someone gave you something to help, you looked for ways to pay it back.
Let’s see, maybe stupid parents raise their child right this might happened. The perpetrators made so many wrong choices to end up where he is.
Good Shooting
We have to look at it from HIS point of view? Like hell we do. You break into my house and you leave in a body bag.
This is what you get when you have generations who believe that living on welfare is a viable career choice. Feeling entitled, taking things from someone else, expecting sympathy for their life in “Da hood”. If these BLM idiots put a 10th of the effort into cleaning up their neighborhoods, rooting out crime, and getting jobs, it would be a much better country. To the homeowner,… Nice shooting, and good job. One less Bernie or Hillary voter.
I am willing to consider it from the invader’s point of view. I also consider it from the occupant’s point of view (something the kid’s family has not said it has done). Horrible violation to have someone go into your house. To be there makes it many times worse, can lead to years of nightmares about what could have happened. At the end of all the considering it is no contest, the woman defending herself is a hero. The family and neighborhood friends of the studious fun loving education oriented kid who was killed should use the event as an educational opportunity to protect other children – no amount of yearning for nice clothing justifies taking it from somebody else.
I would tell the family they did this to the young man, for it is they that taught the young man that this was acceptable behavior. Get a job, make a positive contribution to society.
Reading the article , I became ammused about the Line it’s best to let the Police confront the suspect.
I know a single parent who resided in a major city and had to travel out of the country a lot at the time and would take their child to their parents house, for them to watch while they went to work.
It was pretty routine until one trip that is they were in England and returned to get their child and returned home, there in a Taxi and the Garage door is wide open , The Taxi Cab Driver and the parent both call 911 and the Taxi Cab driver says I have to go back to work, so he kicks the parent and the kid out of the taxi, The Burglars are in the House, The Parent does not know what to do they are two blocks from the main drag , their our houses all over the place but this is Florida and neighbors keep to themselves in Orlando that is and the parent really doesnot know the neighbors so the parent make a decision and runs to the master bedroom and thank god know was in that room and barracades themself and their child in that room and repeatidly calls the Orlando Sheriffs Dept, with Burglars in the Kitchen , Living room , and dining room and the other bed room, You would think The Orange County Sheriffs Dept, would have sent a Level one Response , the Bastards never showed up, The parent was my sister and my neice, so it makes me wonder was this women, in similar situations in the past/ and was she like my sister found out you can not rely on the police ? That in fact you are on your own ? That is until you shoot a 17 year who was raised by Idiots to be a Scumbag ?
The actions of the Taxi Driver were also reprehensible. He should lose his cab license.
He was turnin’ his life around. He dindunuffin!
Lets all go back to asking the right question: Why would this kid want to risk his life stealing from a residence?
The wrong question is: Why would you kill somebody for burglarizing your home? The family here are as stated above, low life scum who think it is OK to prey on others better off than they are. Kudos to the homeowner.
First off….. Doesn’t matter he broke the law! She was with her rights to protect herself ! Sorry he had to die but, you pay for your actions. End of story….
Yea, what’s wrong with her……..didn’t she learn the proper procedure in those cases……..Double Tap to Center Mass then check to see if the threat is neutralized. You can deny though, one shot threat removal. Nice job.
Honestly, what is wrong with the family of these people, actually believing that the homeowner did something wrong while protecting her home and her life? Talk about a screwed up slant on life….dat family got one.
Tell the low life family to go back and do what he did, see what happens to them. He was probably doing what they had taught him.
Come into my home and get the same thing or worse, I use buckshot.
He entered a home to steal money for school clothing. Sez who, his family? He was committing multiple felonies, how did the victim know what he was there for? He was a young imposing male and she is a middle-aged woman who lives in what is obviously a high crime area. Her gun is legal. OBTW, he doesn’t look like he has any problem getting clothes to me. I feel sorry those young ladies losing their brother but that’s live in the hood.
Wow just wow!! The justification for breaking and entering is unbelievable. I know the whole story is still unfolding but maybe if the young man would have said “Hey I’m sorry, don’t shoot I’ll wait here for the police to arrive” (in 15, 20 30 minutes). But then he if he went to jail he wouldn’t be able to go to school in his new clothes bought by thievery. I’m sorry the young man is dead but he should realize, especially in Florida doing a B&E you take your chances the homeowner is armed and has full legal rights to defend.
“If there’s any type of situation that happens or they believe there’s a burglary at the home or any type of confrontation, dial 911. Have the police make that confrontation,” Ferrin said. “That’s what we’re here for.” -really Detective Ferrin??….I’ll just sit here and let this guy beat the hell out of me or kill me until you halfwits show up to pick up the pieces. Detective, you should’ve just had the Chief make his own comments. That way you wouldn’t have exposed the vacuum between your ears. You’re as dumb this kid’s family.
I have to wonder how Ferrin would feel if he was at work and someone broke into his home where his wife or daughter might be, and would he urge them to call 911 and wait for the police to arrive or would he expect them to shoot the invader?
That Det was probably cheering on the inside that the prick got what he deserved , however, he has to say the company line or else the Florida State’s Attorneys office would run wood up their butts.
Pathetic losers. I grew up poor. One big pot of baked beans to feed our family of 5 for a week was common. It never occurred to me to break in and steal my neighbor’s clothes. A pretty lame excuse and her action may have saved his next victim from something much worse than burglary. Great parents, I’m sure.
What morons we have in this world!! It’s just unbelievable that anyone thinks this women is wrong to shoot this kid. He got what he deserved, he was nothing but a common thief was no good to society in any shape form or fashion. If his family believes this was wrong, then beware of them, because the next shooting will be one of them!! Amen for the 54 year old lady!!
I’d have shot him to, every home invader deserves to be shot. Don’t leave them alive to do any more crimes against anyone.
He was committing a B&E. I’m Hispanic my wife is Black. She carries firearms as I do. I’m pretty sure if this guy was breaking into our home my wife would have shot him too and called the police. It’s unfortunate this young man died, but he was committing a crime. I wonder if this would even be news if the victim was asian, hispanic, or white. The media keeps all this animosity going between all of us Americans. We got scum in all races, and ethnicities but we are not all bad. All whites aren’t racist, all blacks aren’t criminals, all Hispanics aren’t illegal. But according to the media all minorities are criminal and all whites are klansmen. If you want us all to finally get along we need to start holding the media(news movies and tv ) responsible for the negative images they depict and for propagating the hate among us. That’s my .02. Thank you
17 years old? Where’s he supposed to get moey for school clothes? Something wrong with getting a job? When I was 17, I was being raised by a single Mom. We didn’t have a lot of money to spend, and dammit, I wanted to get a boom box like the rich kids had! And she refused to buy me ammo for my .22 and my 12 gauge, so I had to get a job. Even with the blatantly obvious lack of education this family has, working in a grocery store doesn’t require much. He had a future? Where? Raiford Prison Facility? My hat’s off to the home owner. It’s never a good thing to have to kill, but she did what she had to. And judging by the reactions of the kids family, she may have to again.
One less ,outstanding, education loving (sic) kid to go bad and cost the state thousands, nee, millions of dollars through his lifetime. Funny how the police report states he was fatally shot while going out the window, but his loser, low life, scum bucket family asks why he was shot while on the lawn. Guess they can’t read (or listen, as the case m might be)
Good ridance
O.K.
If he decided to hurt her, help would possibly have been too far away. We don’t have all the details, but it may have been a good shoot. I’m not blaming the police, but they can’t be everywhere all the time. To the hood rat’s family: If you (meaning the hood) would teach your kids right from wrong, maybe – just maybe – things would look up for you. Theft is a crime. Burglary is a crime. Trespassing is a crime. In my mind (sane) it’s the parents responsibility to ensure their kids have what they need for school and such. It’s not the kid’s job to steal for it. Step up and provide. Be a part of America that you can be proud of. ‘Entitlements’ are going to start drying up. What will you do then? I know it won’t be my house or stuff you’ll turn to….
They say he loved learning, then what’s the problem? She was just teaching him one last lesson. Stay the fuck out of other people’s houses! Thank you to the shooter for eliminating another piece of society’s garbage. To the family of said garbage, teach your children to work for what they need and this will not happen.
We need to kill MORE of these little bastards BEFORE they grow up and become career criminals.
These black morons complain that there is a disproportionate amount of blacks in prison–well fricking duuuuh—–
Maybe they are all just so damned stupid that they get caught and maybe–just maybe its because there are soooooomany committing crimes and think because we have a porch monkey in the WHITE HOUSE that they can get away with anything because they can cry racism, profileing and just picked on–oooooh waaaaaaaa.
Time to start dropping them and the police need to stop being so PC and shoot to kiil and rid the streets of this kind of scum.
NO–Im not a racist so don’t even go there–I don’t care who you are or what color you are–you want to rob me–all I can say is “I DONT THINK I HAVE ANYTHING WORTH DIEING FOR”
Anybody that makes a point of saying “I am not a racist” almost always is a racist. Case in point–porch monkey?? Ignorant fool. You advocate killing more of “them” (and we know exactly who you have in mind) BEFORE they become criminals.
Yes, you are most certainly a racist. Where’s your “88” tattoo?
Sandman: I hate to be the one that needs to enlighten you, but you ARE a racist! “Black morons” is one remark. You followed up with “we have a porch monkey in the WHITE HOUSE.” I rest my case!
The gall of this kids family is beyond comprehension, so I guess we are suppose to let anybody who wants to just walk in and rob us blind, if he was such a good kid why was he committing a felony.
Yeah, she probably aimed to hit a leg or gut shot.. but he probably moved, causing an uncalculated shot?? People!!! It was in the dark, “her home”, he was trespassing, was he on drugs? Are his motives-remotely known?? It’s an open/shut case… He was stupid!
I cannot believe the stupidity and the level of acceptance by the low life family. “You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.” Fucktards, these are the same people that retaliate and shoot others when they are the victims of the same crime. Well done to the shooter. It is time the victims have a voice and what better voice than being a responsibly trained gun owner.
amen
I agree 100%, her statement about “HOW IS HE TO GET MONEY FOR CLOTHES TO GO TO SCHOOL ” TAKES THE CAKE. OH AND THE OTHER OF HER SUPER STATMENTS HE WAS GOING PLACES. WELL FOOL HE IS ON HE’S WAY TO A NEW PLACE RIGHT NOW, IT’S CALLED HELL, WHERE HE CAN ROT.
Well said thangan, call 911?, WHAT, and say thiers a black man in my house, who came threw my window could you please get here as soon as possible, I understand he may need money for cloths but he might have a gun to threaten my life and rape me, please hurry, ya right, blow his empty head off.
The unmitigated gall of this thugs family is absolutely unbelievable! I was broke growing up and I still don’t make a lot of money but I try to work for my money. I don’t rob innocent people. This guy got what he deserved. You break into someone’s home you take your life in your own hands. I would have done the same thing.
LEAVE OUR RIGHTS ALONE!!!!!!!
An innocent child brutally denied his right to look good in your clothes while being educated.
I just can’t imagine a world of entitlement like this where people actually believe that stealing is the first step to a successful life. I wish this kid didn’t have to pay with his life, but he put his life on the line by burglarizing somebody’s home.
Wait a minute mike… although, I do agree with you.. many.. upon many, many.. lie, cheat and steal.. “legally”! Only prospering and yet, this punk, did it in a manner, the masses deem wrong! So, yeah, he was stupid… but, cops, lawyers, bankers, etc.. steal everyday!
WTF? Why are you bashing the cops? Calling them thieves? And what do you know about lawyers or bankers stealing? You sound like a BLM moron.
You are 100% right. As long as one person is doing wrong it is perfectly acceptable for someone else to do wrong. Especially if it is someone educated and who actually works for their money and you can just make up crap to justify your moronic point of view, you low life piece of crap. Good luck in life with that attitude, although I think we all know exactly how far you’ll get – one of the lines of my pay stub. Yep, professional government teat suckers.
Marco, your statement is nearly as stupid as the “how he gonna get money” by the relative of the crook. Most people do not lie, cheat and steal every day. Sure there are a few but that’s it. NOT EVERYBODY is dishonest. Not even a majority.
When you’re raised in a degenerate welfare culture by lazy, ignorant parents, apparently you start to believe that the world owes you a living, and if you choose to commit burglaries or robberies …. well, that’s just fine!
Better that this worthless punk dies now rather than live to commit further crimes, very likely leading to violence.
Good riddance. The homeowner deserves a medal for public service.
100% agree – enter someone’s home uninvited in the dark of night at your own peril
I can’t believe the honesty in Harris’ quote. She acknowledged the intruder’s intent to invade the home and commit felonies. Usually, they just say he was a good kid…
Now he don need no new clothes ta gota skool he be free from all dat trash foolishness… and the people in the surrounding neighborhoods can sleep better at night knowing there is one less felon out there. I wonder if this ‘Trevon’ would also be a ‘son of a president’….probably, the father just hasn’t been prosecuted yet.
But this low life family is stating that the thug has the right to steal and that the victim had zero rights to prevent such activity. BLM!