CZ-USA has given the masses what they’ve been asking for. Bringing two new offerings to the tactical world for 2015, CZ has launched the Scorpion Evo 3 and the 805 Bren PS1. The GunsAmerica team covered the Scorpion, earlier in January; it is a remarkable pistol with an amazing feature set and even better price point. Click on the link above for the review.
The Bren Pistol.
The other star of the 2015 CZ booth was the 805 Bren PS1. Utilizing a piston driven recoil system, this pistol is designed as the PDW version of the Czechoslovakian army’s assault rifle of choice. Backed up by a history of military service, this pistol is undoubtedly tough, and is more than ready for any task you can come up with.
The 805’s upper receiver is aluminum and built with monolithic picatinny rails. The gun has an 11inch barrel chambered in .223/5.56, and uses a two-piece muzzle break to reduce muzzle climb and recoil force. The pistol uses a gas piston system which ensures reliability and longevity while keeping the bolt assembly clean during firing. The weapon feeds from standard AR-15 magazines, and should work with everything from USGI aluminum mags to Hexmags.
The pistol utilizes the same low mount iron sights as the scorpion line of pistols, but can accommodate any BUIS or optics you may find yourself mounting atop it. The rear of the pistol allows for the attachment of slings, and in the near future the attachment of AR-style buffer tube assembly if you would like to mount the ever so controversial SB-15.
All in all, the pistol is great, and if you’re in the market for a piston driven PDW they will start shipping in March at a MRSP of $1982. Watch for our full review in months to come.
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The rear sight on the Bren.
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The front sight is the same one in use on the Scorpion.
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The Bren above a brace-equipped Scorpion.
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At half the price of the Bren, I expect to see a lot of these Scorpions selling fast.
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Somewhat made sense in light of the Sig brace aside from the price. Now, not so much. Shooting a stockless rifle is like riding a bike with no seatpost.
Wow – another pistol that isn’t really a pistol – just some stupid short-rife that shoots a weak .223. Or and MSRP of $2k so that this can sit at home in the safe with the other brainless Tac-Ti-Cool retarded weapons that are never actually used in defense. The Gun industry has gone retarded.
CZ makes some great guns, the CZ75 line for one, I like the Bren I’ve the cooler named Scorpion 9mm vs .223… Just my preference . For Just CQB work the scorpion would be just fine-but you have to leave sometime….anyway as I said I Like CZ’s so they’re both interesting to me.
Grammar \” spell check\” it\’s a setting on your device. 2k? That\’s one tax stamps from big brother. Then build a custom sbr, in multi caliber\’s.. With a box or case of ammo! From simple reading = knowledge or suggestions from, you ( may know) tube. It just takes some patience with the atf..
I\’d even get a suppressor w/ second stamp & end up around $2,000! (Free states only…)
Any chance of seeing full carbine models of either of these?
Seeing the ATF’s recent open letter about the use of the Sig brace as a shoulder stock (using it this way “redesigns” the brace, making it illegal), I can’t help but wonder why the AFT considers AR and similar pistols to be “handguns” (which, according to the ATF, are designed to be fired with one hand). These weapons are designed to be fired with two hands – one on the pistol grip, the other on the forend. Placing a vertical grip on a pistol is illegal (as is putting a shoulder stock on it – at least without proper registration and the payment of a stamp tax), so doesn’t the use of a pistol’s forend as a grip constitute a “redesign” of a handgun into a weapon that is fired with two hands, thereby making it illegal? (Making a “handgun” with two grip positions built-in, such as an integral vertical foregrip, would make its sale, without appropriate approval, illegal. So why are these weapons – with built-in grips for a second hand – not also illegal? Is it considered legal as a “barrel shroud,” and not a grip? But according to the ATF, it’s use as a grip will “redesign” it into one, such use making the gun itself “illegal.”)
Of course, I don’t believe this myself. I think it’s pernicious nonsense. But I’m just pointing out that the ATF has not thought through this “redesign” claim – its pursuit makes nonsense of much of their established enforcement policies.
The great author Mark Twain once said….”I fell sorry for anyone who can only spell a word one way”
Brake…Break….either way…take a break!
Looks like a good gun in a street fight!…great combat sidearm!
After owning ALOT of guns over the years , and then owning CZ’s……..i’ll pay the extra money.(its not going to be retail anyway) My well broke in and dialed CZ pistols make my other guns including some nice HK’s and 1911..feel crude. Plus without shooting one how can you tell what its worth…..I’ve tried those rattling loose 600 dollar AR’s ..no thanks. In a year the price will fit my budget.
Again the problem with the NFA is the SBR category when enacted in 1934 revolvers and pistols didn’t have the firepower that they do today with new ammo designs and magazine capacities. SBR firearms category is antiquated and useless and should be removed from the NFA
It’s my understanding that the SBR language was supposed to have been removed when the bill was sent back to its committee. This was not done, and the bill was returned to the House floor for a vote with the language still mistakenly intact (fortunately, handguns were removed from the bill’s language). Congress never intented to make SBRs NFA items.
With the Sig P556 already out and selling for less money, I’m not sure what notch these would find themselves in. $2000.00? Sig brace all but gone? I don’t see these flying off the shelf anytime soon.
Sorry, I’m with Grammar Nazi 100%! He’s completely right on all of those misuses of common words. But in this case I’m really surprised that y’all (yes, y’all really is a word) don’t know the difference between BREAK and BRAKE. So I guess y’all push on the “break” pedal to put on the “breaks” to slow or stop the car, right? Just like the muzzle “break” stops the barrel from rising, right? WRONG! (Not WRONGLY!) It’s BRAKE! (verb transitive) To slow or stop movement/a device used to slow or stop movement. (by definition). Get it now? You could also Google it, and you’ll get “Did you mean MUZZLE BRAKE?” End of 10th Grade English lesson. Hope you paid attention, there’s (not theirs or theres) a quiz after this.
Gimme a break…
10th grade English lesson ?
Oh you must have been one of those riding on the short…bus…
Adding receiver extensions to firearms that don’t require them for operation is going to lead to trouble. There is already a letter from ATF tech branch saying the Sig brace creates an illegal stock. It’s a mess waiting to happen. No thanks
The ATF has not declared the Sig brace illegal. They have ruled that if the brace is not used as intended, such as using it shouldered, then it had been “modified” and the pistol it is attached to becomes an SBR. As long as your forearm is in the brace, you are not in violation of ATF regs regarding SBRs. Sig is considering an appeal of this ruling.
For me this is not a pistol. Just a short barreled rifle with a pistol grip.
By definition:
noun
a short firearm intended to be held and fired with one hand.
An M-60 might be easier to fire with one hand.
Looks like a good gun to loose a thumb with!
$500.00 ok, LOL $1982 no thanks. You can keep your Master Chief gun.
It’s nice to see that the nation’s economy has recovered so well that shooters have $2,000 just to buy a firearm because it happens to be what “… the masses have been asking for.” Huh? I guess, if you also happen to have a wallet filled with $10 and $20 bills so you can spend more than five minutes at your gun club’s shooting range.
Silly!
Hmmm, that “Bren Pistol” looks interesting. File the SBR paperwork, put an AR buffer tube on it so you have your choice of AR stocks… seems nice.
I read the Scorpion review… maybe I just missed it… are those 9mm mags totally proprietary?
I saw the CZ Scorpion pistol for the first time two weeks ago; I want one. The 30 round mags are supposed to be under $20, trouble is, I’ve been searching online for two weeks to find extra mags before I buy the pistol: NONE TO BE FOUND.
When I hear the word “Bren”, I think of the WWII light machine gun in .303 British. I desperately want one of those, if there even is a transferable one available. This, I could care less about. It’s useless if you can’t shoulder it, and not worth going through the ATF paperwork to do so.
Don’t just pick on his grammar, go after his geography too!
“Czechoslovakian army’s assault rifle of choice”
Czechoslovakia dissolved about 2 decades prior to the arrival of the Bren.
It’s ok, this blog has never been about those pesky facts.
I also take issue with the term “assault rifle”. Can we please stop using this nonsensical phrase? If you mean a select fire battle carbine, say “select fire battle carbine”. ASSAULTRIFLE is a translation of the German Sturmgewehr, which was a term specifically devised by Adolf Hitler (who had a passion for doomsday weapons) for the MP43. We don’t need it as a term to describe a select fire carbine caliber weapon, and using it just feeds into the anti-gun nonsense. I guarantee Mike Bloomberg gives a grand total of zero fucks about the technicalities of what constitutes an ASSAULTRIFLE. It’s time for that pointless term to be retired.
2K for an unbeta tested pistol? Fail. CZ will be holding on to a lot of these.
> “2K for an unbeta tested pistol? Fail. CZ will be holding on to a lot of these.”
Which one are you referring to? Both of them are based on military or police use guns. They have had plenty of testing!
Just as the “Remington R51” was a field tested design? (only for analogy purposes)
While I completely trust CZ-USA to distribute reliable firearms, (unlike Remington) I would still feel far more “comfortable” waiting at least a year before laying down the cash for one. I personally am not fond of being an unpaid beta-tester for any firearms company, at any time; just my personal preferences.
(please fill free to korectum spellking, grammer an punkshuashun errors in the above post)
How can you say it is untested it is based on a service weapon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ByigNHoNeg
Thanks for the video Robert.
More concise, and makes the firearm more attractive, seeing the un-neutered design.
It’s “grammar”… 😉
To, two, too.
Their, they’re, there.
Wrongly, break, brake
Pedant. As in self-serving pedantic behavior, often relegating one’s disposition to repeated self-serving bias. Often associated with feelings of inadequacy, stemming from marginal relationships with parental figures, fathers in particular.
Real eyes realize real lies
Don’t forget “your” and “you’re”
Grammer? It was grammar last time I looked…..
I’m not a big fan of nine mm guns so I would pass on the scorpion
As for the price tag on the 5.56 piece, one word that comes to mind
NO.
I agree, Joe. Anyone can build an AR platform pistol for around 600 up ( depending on options). Why pay almost two grand?
I could build an ar pistol and two rifles for that money.
And feel good about yourself afterwords.
Aren’t these gun going class 2 by ATF
Nope.
I wish you reviewers would learn how to spell muzzle “brake.”
Every day this week, you’ve got it wrongly in one or more of your reviews.
*wrong
“Wrongly” is an adverb, which in this case is technically grammatically correct. 30-caliber magazine clip.
“Wrongly” is an adverb, but is utilized incorrectly here.
The adjectival form “wrong” functioning as an adverb would have been more appropriate here.
And instead of “you’ve got it wrong,” it would be “you’ve gotten it wrong,” because it happened in the past.
Wrongly?
Wrongerer
prerewrongerestingly
Ok guys, take a ‘break’. But first, check your weapon’s muzzle ‘brake’ to make sure it doesn’t come off while you are having fun at the range.
And…, I wish that anyone who leaves a post/review in the
“Comments” section & goes on to Criticize the Spelling used by other people in previous posts…, would at the Very Least, Learn how to String a Few Words Together and Write a Complete Sentence which is Grammatically Correct!
Once you’ve Mastered Writing (1) One Sentence Without Any Grammatical Errors…, Try to put a few of those Complete & Grammatically Correct Sentences Together & Write an Error Free Paragraph.
Good Luck with that. Although you may need to retake your 4th & 5th grade Grammar Classes, (Assuming you didn’t drop out of school before you completed the 3rd Grade)…, As it is very difficult to decipher what type & how much education you’ve completed, (if Any).
You have most certainly proved that you are More Cocerned about focusing on Other people’s Mistakes and/or Inadequacies than you are on Focussing on & Improving You’re Own Sortcomings, Mistakes & Inadequacies!
I think to myself how Very Sad it is to be so ignorant & have such Low Self Esteem that you have to Point Out the faults of others to make You Feel Good about Yourself. Sad!
Couldn’t have put it better!!!!!!!!
I agreee! couldnt have put it betterer my self! lol! lets worry about the subject matter and point of veiw instead of grammer, puncuation, and spelling! some of us arent good on computers! some of us have real jobs that built America and didnt grow up with a cell phone or laptop glued to us!
You’re under arrest via the irony police:
>>it is very difficult to decipher what type & how much education you’ve completed, (if Any).
You have most certainly proved that you are More Cocerned about focusing on Other people’s Mistakes and/or Inadequacies than you are on Focussing on & Improving You’re Own Sortcomings, Mistakes & Inadequacies!<<
Thanks, you guys cracked me up.
I seriously was LOL.
C’mon guys, you can at least put an “N” in concerned….. I know that most of you don’t know the difference between Brake and Break or Breach or Breech, but please, my Dad always taught me that if you don’t know, look it up; don’t guess…. It makes the rest of us look like “ignorant gun nuts”, too.
I would say that you are a Cyber Bully
Shouldn’t the self-proclaimed Grammar Police know the proper rules as they pertain to capitalization and the use of ellipses?
Hey, Grammar Overlord, they were discussing spelling, NOT grammar….. Where’s the Spelling Overlord when you need him?
Grammer ? I ain’t bowt two git into thise hear crap match –
As for the 9mm ? Only if you can’t handle something bigger . Cost ? Ya gotta be kidding me !
How about you make a post about it in the comments section and show the world how annoying you are?
As for the CZ Pistols featured in this article, well, I for one cannot wait to shoot them!
I ponder, has anyone here ever heard about CZ-USA’s new 805 Bren PS1? You know, that 556 pistol due out in march? Maybe I am in the wrong room, lol.
Who cares about all that read’n & rit’n stuff! All I want to know is if they make an IWB holster for that sucker! 🙂