Residents of Boulder, Co., have until December 27 to “certify” their “assault weapons” or remove the firearms from city limits. Those who fail to comply could face fines, jail time, and confiscation and destruction of their firearms, according to the Denver Post.
Boulder police say they have certified 85 firearms since the city council passed an “assault weapons” ban in May. Residents who already owned prohibited rifles, pistols, and shotguns were given the chance to keep their firearms by certifying prior ownership with police. The council also voted unanimously to ban “high-capacity” magazines and bump stocks.
“My hope is that we will see more bans at the state level and one day at the federal level so these weapons will no longer be available,” Councilman Aaron Brockett said in May.
Boulder police Sgt. Dave Spraggs stressed to the Post that no records or paperwork are kept of these certifications. He claims that police only keep a “handwritten count” of how many rifles residents certify.
It’s difficult to estimate compliance levels, and police and city officials have admitted that they can’t do much about gun owners who refuse to certify their rifles.
“This is a very divisive issue where people have very strong feelings,” City Attorney Tom Carr told the Daily Camera. “The folks who oppose these kinds of bans … some of them suggest they’re not going to cooperate. I can’t predict what people are going to do, but I respect the feelings.”
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Others voiced their skepticism more forcefully.
“By definition, effective governing must be practical and enforceable,” Boulder resident John Ramey told the Camera. “When something isn’t enforceable, like the war on drugs, that’s a huge sign that the underlying legal model doesn’t match the actual problems and realities.
“At best, ineffective laws just displace or morph the problem. Mass shootings declined after Australia’s weapons ban, but gun-related crimes doubled in just five years. In countries like the UK and China, they now deal with daily fear of acid, knife, and vehicle attacks.”
The Boulder ordinance defines “assault weapon” to include semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that feature the usual list of terrifying accessories (pistol grips, folding stocks, etc.).
Spraggs says he doesn’t know how many rifles to expect between now and the deadline. Technically, residents have until December 31 to register their firearms, but due to the holidays, the last day an officer will be available to certify firearms is December 27.
Wasn’t this settled in 1776? I hope those who have to enforce this have kissed their families goodbye and have all their papers in order. As for those who ordered these measures I predict a short drop.
Ve have a List, but don’t vorry, dis List is just on paper…I’m sure that sounds like the Nazi’s telling the citizens of Poland just that.
How are the guns going to be confiscated once the police have been defunded?
No American Citizen owns an Assault weapon without a Federal License. Assault weapon defination will be thrown out of court. Assault is an ACTION not a weapon. A weapon that is designed as a fully AUTOMATIC weapon, M-16 not AR-15 could be defined with the word, ASSAULT. SOME GOOD ATTORNEY WILL SHOVE THIS UP BOULDERS ASS!
Just out of curiosity, the only part of an AR that is considered or need to be registered is the lower assembly that has a serial number.
So, if you dis-assemble your AR, the only part that would need to be registered and be ‘legally’ subject to confiscation is the lower assembly, is that right? If this is so, shouldn’t the police department return the upper half to the owners? There, also, could be a multiple number of reasons why you only have the lower asm. and not the whole rifle in your possession.
I think some attorney would have to answer this one.
You don’t have to be a lawyer to answer this. BATFE defines the firearm based to be the receiver. On the AR type rifles, the firearm is the lower. On an FAL it is the upper. So, you are correct. Oh an btw, screw boulder and commie state of Colorado.
The sheepherder is muzzling the sheepdogs and the wolves will be free to eat til their bellies are full. Total Liberal ignorance and inability to cope with reality. Scary. Very scary.
Just when did Boulder, CO become San Francisco, CA and just when did all of the gun owners in Boulder let their balls get cut off?
A long time ago. I left shortly after 9-11. The punishment for smoking a cigarette was severe. The punishment for smoking marijuana was….well, there wasn’t.
Boulder is full of pantie wasted liberals as most of their cities are. You find conservative, 2nd Amendment folks in the rural areas. I served part of my Army enlistment in Colorado Springs in the 60’s. The place was full of assholes then.
I made a left turn in the city and pulled into a parking space. A loud mouthed New Yorker said, “You can’t do dat heah!” .” I said, Bullshit, I just did it.” I thought he was going to blow a fuse. Nothing has changed. All of them, including the loudmouths at UC, can kiss my little sister’s black cat’s ass!
Looks like the people’s republic of Boulder have gone full communist!
OK, so the honest citizens “certify” their weapons, and how many were really “ASSAULT” ie: full automatic capable?? Now for the rest of the population, how many of the criminals went through the process??? What kind of guarantee does the government give that criminals also complied??? Don’t hold your breath on that!
(quote)“My hope is that we will see more bans at the state level and one day at the federal level so these weapons will no longer be available,” Councilman Aaron Brockett said in May.(unquote)
Since such bans only restrict possession to the law abiding, and I am not stupid enough to think the politicians don’t know that, people should be asking just what it is they are up to.
If by some chance the council IS stupid enough and too lazy to look up the facts, they have no business trying to govern honest folk!
(quote)Boulder police Sgt. Dave Spraggs stressed to the Post that no records or paperwork are kept of these certifications. He claims that police only keep a “handwritten count” of how many rifles residents certify. (unquote)
Anybody fool enough to believe THAT load of -expletive! deleted- is clearly too weak brained to be fooling around with firearms anyway. That has to be one of the most nonsensical statements I have ever heard in 60+ years of living!
Thank Boulder for working with the Chinese, Russia, Iran, Pakistan and others. Your disarming of Americans eliminates America’s ability to combat any aggressive act on our soil. You sacrifice a nation to save a few.
Your ignorance of history misses the fact that our advisories have 100 year plans to dominate the world. You can not see the aggressiveness going on in the world, but think you are safe with only a US military. You are not. No more than the police that can’t get to your house in time to save you from being beaten, raped, or murdered. You just don’t get it. The actual uses of firearms for protection far exceed all the school shootings that have happened. Millions of people defend themselves each year. The body count will go up as honest citizens are disarmed and can not defend themselves. You are ignorant of the total picture related to firearms.
Horse hockey
Every gun I have ever seen, heard about, and that had been since maid causes no problems! One thing the human spirit has come to forget is that it is only an instrument! We the people cause this harm and to blame a certain gun is to assume a certain amount of ignorance! A Lot!!! Of ignorance!!! People kill people! Guns don’t walk, talk, or get their feelings hurt!
So are we gonna ban people next!?! Trump that question Donald and anyone else who wants to take from a good ole American who simply wants to live off his or her land like their fathers before them. Damn shame you’d take the country out the boy. But look what your doing to your own country! You call pointing fingers better than resolving issues, I call that a part of the problem.
What does Trump have to do with the nonsense in Boulder, CO. ?
That comment makes you look like a whiney leftist who didn’t get their way.
If you want to put this ruling in perspective ? Look what happened to the Vietnam Vet in Aurora . Shot dead in his own home after defending his grandson from attack. BY POLICE !!!
Look at the video, And no charges filed against the officer who murdered this man. There is no excuse for what happened to this veteran.
This should disturb ANYONE with a functioning brain, And any sense of right and wrong.
Last month, more people were killed by romaine lettuce that “assault weapons”.
If America’s gun owners were going to be a problem, you’d already know it. Stop pushing us. Molon Labe.
But, the Progressive-Socialists believe we’re all just as guilty as the criminals who use a firearm in the commission of their crimes. We all know that they’re either Liberal imbeciles, OR, they have an end-goal.
This is total bullshit, If they think there going to take away our rights to keep and bear arms there sadly mistaken. The government officials had better be looking for new jobs. I hope this isn’t the start of what’s to come. I’m so glad I don’t live there and pay taxes to fund those corrupt people…
Colorado— What’s happened to you?
What happened? Kalifornians ‘n Maryjane!
I own no “assault weapons” as I am a law-abiding person and have no intention to assault anyone with a firearm. If I did have such an intention, then all guns I might own would be “assault weapons.” A big hearty FU to Boulder CO.
Well, if that isn’t a great accomplishment for adolph and the brown shirts!
I’m adding colorado to my boycott list….not the entire state, you say? Too bad. Send a strong message!
I was involved in the debate leading up to this law. One woman claimed that she “didn’t want to worry about someone with a rifle entering the school of her son”. I pointed out that this law would have exactly no effect on the probability of that happening, however, locking the school doors and having visitors be let in by someone who is remotely viewing them would. She wasn’t interested.
This law has nothing to do with public safety, but is just a brain-dead feel-good political statement by people who are willing to give up their rights one at a time, as if that showed “compassion” rather than stupidity.
I moved out of Boulder 4 years ago (after living there for 40 years), and I just wish we could fence the place off and let them live with the consequences of their actions. (Not that that is likely to teach them anything, but at least they wouldn’t be dragging the rest of us down.)
You think it’s confined to Boulder? It started in NYC. Now look at NY state!
Hard to believe that they go through the effort of locating assault weapons in Boulder then say but we keep no record of it since the number of them could change daily. I agree with many others that the only purpose would be either for future confiscation, or an immediate list of suspects should, God forbid, there be an incident involving an assalt weapon in Boulder, what ever definition they use to define “assault” weapon. Glad I moved out of Boulder in 1980 when many of us hippies who lived there earlier started making themselves tons of money off of all of the wanna be hippies who have moved in since. Beware all, how the growth of certain types of individuals who vote eventually lead to making what was a proud, independent, and hard working group into a political entity just like they want.
This was passed by a city council ONLY vote.
The boulder police and sheriff ( look up Mexico Joe Pelle) are SCUM and will use this for disarmament.
This will get innocent people killed by scum cops.
This is a university town and this shit needs to be fought! Can’t let it be.
God bless API!!
Back in the 80s a movie called ” Red Dawn ” was about a Soviet Union invasion of the U.S. and their occupation of Colorado. The Soviets never invaded but the Californians did who are just as bad.
True!
The Soviets were never coming here, because Russia was and still already the largest resource rich country in the world. Makes no sense at all. Are Americans too brainwashed to see that? The Ivy Leaguer millionaire-billionaire class Neo-left is who invaded Colorado, and they are who runs the whole country.
Winston, you are so right. Russia is like the US in the 1800’s, vast untapped reserves of everything. Sure, most of it is covered in snow and ice, but that is just an inconvenience. If true capitalism ever took over there, they could out produce the rest of the world combined, industrially.
As a Native Californian I couldn’t agree more. The Libtard Cal transplants have already infected and screwed up Washington, Nevada, and Colorado. Oregon is getting close to falling. The wife and I plan on moving next year to a RED State and I’m going to a City Council meeting upon my arrival to warn them to NEVER elect / appoint a Cal transplant to any Gov’t position lest your freedoms disappear.
So, let me get this straight……… These Cali-fornians are dissatisfied enough with the state of affairs there to pick-up and move to another state. But once relocated, they run for elected office to impose the same HUTA ideas that they ran from?
That’s the very definition of insanity!
That’s why Texas is close to becoming a blue state. Instead of leaving their lib ideas behind, immigrating Californians brought them with them.
Boulder is a town full of freaks and geeks..Screw ’em….
What would you expect from the home of Mork and Mindy
And the Univ of Colorado.
When are we gonna have to March for our rights. To show up in mass numbers. We shouldn’t have to. The law is already in place, stop messing with it. Register the fully automatic weapons, as if some people haven’t gone through the proper channels to obtain one. Leave the semiautomatic weapons alone. Simply put. You can’t and will not stop bad people from doing stupid stuff. I know we all have different opinions, I just wanted to say mine. Thanks for letting me speak my mind.
It’s not how the item is described, but how it is USED.
Obey the law and bring to them your hammers, chainsaws screwdrivers, scissors, ice picks, matches, cast iron pans,…………OH, and your vehicles………
Show them the stats; FAR less assaults”, let alone homicides due to these items, than just an ugly gun.
Molon labe! Semper Vigilis-
Don’t let the sacrafices of this date be in vain.
No 2A; no Constitution & B.o.R..
Since there is no such thing as an “assault weapon” when used for self defense, ignore this communist BS. Let them come and try and take them. Only then will they see an assault snd it will be them assaulting you and your Constitutional rights. It will not end well for them.
Has anyone filed for court orders to restrain enforcement of the Boulder law, which is clearly a violation of the Constitution?
Doesn’t matter. Colorado has become a liberal cesspool.
A city council cannot supersede state law, period. There is already standing judicial precedent. I remember seeing this back in the 90’s, basically its just an unenforceable political statement and ploy. I’d give the city council the big middle finger, see you in court….
Colorado needs to have a group like WVCDL and get a state preemption law passed that takes this power away from inane city councils . They also need to read the 2A supporters in boulder need to do a PR campaign and point out all the criminals liberal courts let off easily and lobby them to start enforcing prohibited persons found with firearms with max penalties , they need to make them enforce laws against criminals not make criminals out of citizens. They need to read or if illiterate read it to them the statement in 2A “the right of citizens to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. And every 2A resident in the city needs to remember this on election day and convince friends and neighbors why to get rid of these communist leftists.
What’s troubling is, the Sheriff supports it; he doesn’t have to.
I think most residents who are owners of the so called “assault weapons” are smart enough to figure out the law will be overturned since it was dreamed up and made law AFTER the state pre-emption law was in effect.
I’m disappointed that more people are not mentioning that the city council also banned possession of magazines over 10 rounds without a grandfather clause (like Denver did with 15 round magazines in January) and without a even a method to register them (not that people would) I don’t believe even California got away with an ex post facto law like this and the 9th circus even upheld an injunction allowing people in California to keep magazines they already owned. https://reason.com/volokh/2018/07/17/ninth-circuit-upholds-preliminary-injunc
Bottom line is this law is going to be struck down in whole or in part as soon as it’s heard by people outside Boulder with brains.
Since when does a city council get to make Law? That is a process reserved for the the state legislature.
NO. Cities pass laws all the time.
Refuse! Fight the government of Boulder in the streets.
“….shall not be infringed!” This ban against government interference has got to stop. ANY politician who proposes a law to restrict guns needs to be impeached for violation of the US Constitution!
The Scumbags that passed this crap need to be dealt with to nip this BS in the Bud.
Too many Californians in Colorado.
Yup, the californians move to Colorado to get the legal pot, they are brain dead for sure now.
Got that right ! Totally changed the politics of Co.
So, have your state reps. in Denver enact a law barring CA emigrants. Boom, done.
“Assault Weapon” this is a lie to begin with! The terminology was made up by the liberals anti-gun agenda, in order to classify a greater number of weapons into their Agenda to expand the category of ‘assault rifles’ to allow an attack on as many additional firearms as possible on the basis of undefined evil appearance. Remember the ban, lie, on the evil appearance gun in 1994 that was allowed to expire because it did nothing? An example of a true assault rifle, Not Assault Weapon, is the M4A1 Carbine. It is fully automatic – meaning it can fire multiple rounds each time the trigger is pulled. This is a U.S. military rifle that is capable of firing 950 rounds per minute. We can relate to it more easily as a “machine gun” and it has been banned from non-military purchase since 1935 and clarified and banned again in 1986. Barring the expensive legal route! The AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle that fires one round each time the trigger is pulled and is capable of 30-60 rounds per minute. Pursuing a ban on assault weapons is a charade, a lie to cover fact, and to make politicians appear as if they are doing something to combat crime because one they are incapable of enforcing existing laws and their Agenda is control by disarmament!
The National Firearms Act went into effect in 1934, not 1935. It didn’t ban the private ownership of full automatic firearms (machine guns), it restricted and regulated said ownership, with trade, possession and ownership overseen by the ATF.
The Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 did outlaw the purchase and ownership of “machine guns” that were manufactured after May 1986 by private citizens. A person can still own NFA regulated “machine guns” (those made before May 1986), as they were grandfathered in the 1986 FOPA.
Please refer to the ATF website for further information.
I am a CO resident and this is just another bunch of PC, feel-good, bullshit from the People’s Republic of Boulder. Frankly, not surprised in the least. This should fit nicely alongside CU safe spaces and identity politics. They should just fence the place off and have it annexed by CA.
Why give ground? Just deport the scum to CA and reclaim Your territory.
I love Colorado, but I had to move because of idiotic liberal politics like this one! The law in Boulder is admittedly unenforceable, yet they’re threatening people with fines and jail time. Someone’s lying!!! Either they are keeping records of the certified guns, or theyre unable to fine and/or punish with jail time. It can’t be both! If they catch someone with one of these guns, how are they going to know weather it’s certified or not if theyre not keeping records? And you can’t issue jail time or fines without proof of a violation! It’s the same as the statewide magazine ban there, it’s a ban that the liberal politicians want, and the police can’t enforce. So everyone ignores it. I know lots of gun stores in Colorado that sell 30 round magazines even though the state has a ban on them. No one cares, even law enforcement! Because it’s a stupid law that can’t be enforced, and the Boulder ban will be the same way!
If no records are kept, how can they arrest someone for not “certifying”. Anyone could claim they did. More lying liberals.
House-to-house searches coming next.
No records or paperwork are made with regard to the weapon? Then how will citizens be able to verify they certified their firearms? Don’t try an convince me there are no records.
Now the Police clearly said “we are keeping no records”, just hand written records which are not records, only records of how many you have. Is that clear? No records. Handwritten only. Records. Now is that a 6 or a 9 on that handwritten record? IDK
Exactly… makes no sense that they are only looking for a count and not keeping records. Otherwise they would have no way of knowing who complied with their “certification” B.S.
What a lie, do not comply.
This is definite proof, leagal wacky weed causes brain damage .
Yet, the Police will be able to own them. So much for all men are created equal.
Funny…salads were more dangerous last month than AR15s. Just saying….
Colorado apparently needs a State preemption law to prevent every crackpot city from coming up with their own unConstititional scheme.
Funny thing is that we HAVE a pre-emtion law regarding firearms that was established in 2003. Denver was able to challenge some of the law due to their own laws being in place in a home rule city BEFORE 2003, but the 2003 law clearly states that no city or municipality may make any firearms laws stricter than the state laws. Boulder KNEW they were going to get sued, but they went ahead and wasted taxpayer money anyway.
“Crackpot” an old term that perfectly describes local Demonazicrazy dominated governments elected by CaliMexifornia asylum seekers.
States that are turning Blue, have turned Blue or are Blue:
This is the only consequence of voting Demokrat that matters!
The Second Amendment is the singular element of America’s uniqueness among all nations of the World: past, present and future.
The elites at the very top get it; all the f-tards underneath voting Demokrat for this or all other reasons don’t get it!
As we currently stand, a polarized and divided country with so much pent up anger can only march towards bloodshed.. and there are some who eagerly welcome it!
Molon labe 😉
So, just exactly how will certification of any firearm make anyone safer?
It’s registration.
A record is kept even though they say it isn’t.
It’s a hikenlooper/Polis sham like red flag laws.
It keeps the ruling safe from the ruled.
When all the firearms are confiscated, how long will it be before the democrats start their wanted dictatorship? The loss of firearms worked real well in Nazi Germany, China, North Korea, Cuba and many other countries. How else can they kill all the people they don`t like. If the Jewish people had firearms prior and during WWII things may have been 100% different. Any more most of the people in the U. S. are so stupid that the democrats will probably do the same thing hitler did. That is disarm everyone.
Will someone from Boulder with one these “Certificates” scan and post online. I can reproduce them by the thousands….
Just saying…. Thats’s how I would get around that if I lived there. Fuck Em’!!
Band together Boulder gun owners. Have a meeting. Put together a strong militia because you are within your rights as your loco government is now a domestic enemy (probably Democrats elected, in which it is your fault). It is an unconstitutional law. What you own, the 4th Amendment protects. Federal Law supersedes loco laws. Get the NRA to help the fight in court. I’m a “dead cold hands” guy…but then again I’m 66 years old, but I don’t plan on paying a fine or going to jail!!! Good luck mia Amigos.
In 1963 my uncle refused to certify my residency so I could attend the University of Colorado. I went to the private University of Denver. In 1968 the Students for a Democratic Society found a welcome in Boulder. The influx of Californians in the 1890s brought economic refugees to Colorado who wanted a similar scociety the PDRCal without the taxes–hint: you get the regulations, you get the taxes too. In Kansas where I am in exile we have state law and municipal corporations cannot pass unreasonable regulations.
Was your Uncle being honest or contrary?
The NRA needs to go after the states for using tax payer dollars to fund a fight against the Second Amendment and federal laws. We have the money to fight it and the states should not use our money against us to do so.
Does the State of Colorado have a so called assault weapon ban? If not, how would the city of Boulder handle a non-resident on the way to a shooting match who has a so-called assault weapon in his car ? This checkerboard method of passing local laws that are not in compliance with state law can lead to legal problems. Local ordinances are preempted by state law.
Firearms such as the AR-15 are classified as Modern Sporting Rifles and are not assault rifles or assault weapons.
“The AR in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite Rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. … AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic — a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934.”
The State does not, but there has been a “ban” on ‘assault weapons’ in Denver for some time now, this is nothing new here, we are being ‘Californicated’ quite steadily.
And we have a ban on high cap mag sales too.
…and that was our grandparents that got fooled into the first mistake…in 1934.
There’s no such thing as an assault rifle or assault weapons … fully auto or otherwise. Assault is committed by a person, not an inanimate object. Why are you arguing the point? Reject the premise, there is nothing for Boulder residents to register.
Don’t believe it, Same thing was proposed in California back in the 80’s and eventually turned into a
cluster of regulations and demands in changing functionally of those firearms. Confiscation will follow.
Yeah, after all the regulations aimed at limiting the functionality and storage of firearms so as to render them useless to the law-abiding, the LibProggers really cannot abide the high velocity exit of a projectile from the muzzle feature and must ban that, too. No doubt, just before confiscation, they’ll mandate a garbage-can size “catcher” in front of the muzzle. If you comply, they’ll say that “guns are useless, after all.”
The NRA, such as it is, is (was) our last hope as legal gun owners. It’s just down hill from where we were a decade ago. And, here’s the reason: ” Boulder police say they have certified 85 firearms since the city council passed an “assault weapons” ban in May. ” Gun owners don’t organize and don’t have the money the elite “American” bastards have. That, and did you see the way that first paragraph is worded? “Residents who already owned prohibited rifles, pistols, and shotguns WERE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO KEEP their firearms.”
Next step, confiscation. I hope it gets real bloody as it should have so long ago when these useless bastards began to ‘have very strong feelings’.
As of June 15, 2018 “Assault Weapons” per Boulder’s definition cannot be purchased in Boulder city limits. Those Boulder residents who owned them prior to that date can get a certificate allowing them to continue to possess them. Boulder “Assault Weapon” Certificates: you get two pieces of paper. One goes in your safe. The other gets dragged around with your firearm, in your car, to the range, in the woods, etc. If that one gets destroyed, lost, etc., you have the backup. They do not replace certificates. You get only two. For life. If the backup gets destroyed or lost, you are “SOL” (their words) and are now a criminal. Nice work boys and girls. For more info: https://bouldercolorado.gov/police/firearm-certification
So a law to prove who owns what guns but no law about who proves citizenship and gets registered to vote these Communist in office? Hummmmm!
They don’t keep records, huh? So, the Boulder police don’t have cameras inside the station? So, they don’t record everyone who walks in and out of that place…with a rifle? So, they don’t have a means to match the faces of those who enter the facility with driver’s licenses and addresses? So, they don’t share their information databases with, say, the Feds?
Believe the above, and I have a nice bridge in New York I’d like to sell you. Cash, please, no checks, and all sales are final.
If there are no records what is the point of the “certification?” None compliance, an arrest and then a HEFTY lawsuit is what is in order.
This is what happened when Communists moved out of Communist seized areas of Colorado and elsewhere transforming these municipalities into communist controlled areas. Me, I’m from the People’s Republic of Chicago land where the Communist party controls City of Chicago, Crook County, and Springfield.
Now if every gun owners in the city was to move out, we would see a new Chicago!
No records? They were able to find where the Vegas shooter got his many years after the fact.
What is the purpose of certifying something if you’re not keeping records? I don’t believe Sgt Spraggs. Unless the idea is to be able to bring charges of having an “uncertified” firearm that the owner cannot refute.
You are aware that the police are allowed by custom and precedent to lie to you?
Time for everyone to settle down. They are not confiscating the weapons, they are just asking to have them registered. In that way, everyone can continue using them at gun ranges and appropriate target ranges. They did the same thing here in California in the late 1990’s. Our crime went down dramatically. Assault weapons or automatic rifles are since rarely used in bank robberies or crimes. There is no Second Amendment rights being violated by just registering one’s weapons.
Troll much? I say facts call you out. Commiefornia has tried many different waiting periods to even buy firearms since the 50’s all proved fruitless in reducing crime! Criminals don’t obey laws so crime has nothing to do with the objective which is Control and every gun ban starts with registration! “Shall not be infringed” means just that, I remember buying firearms out of a catalog and the postal service deliver them to my grandfather. You liberal thumb sucker would have heart attack over that today!
Lol… And we all know how gun friendly California became… And how registering all the weapons stopped all the bad guys in there tracks! Not a robbery or mass shooting since!
Nor any onerous follow-on laws either as time went on . . .
Can you offer some proof of the collapse in crime that you mention? I hate to be obstinate but….I don’t believe you. Rifles (of any sort) are rarely used in any crime, anywhere…regardless of law. To your final point- The second amendment is being violated….these weapons are being banned. “Certification” is for those that have previously owned them and would like to continue owning them.
In closing- Please don’t infect the rest of us with your patronizing “reasonableness”. Government overreach is well found in human history as is the capacity for “reasonable” people to accept it… until it is far too late. I won’t settle down until you wake up.
You probably believe in the Easter Bunny to😎😎😎😎😎
Are you on the Commie council. There should NEVER be any type of registration or certification or a proof of who owns what!!! In a free society, the 2nd Amendment allows us to be ready to fight against loco laws such as the Boulder Law that castrates gun owners rights against further unconstitutional laws…because they will get worse and gun violence such as mass shootings will continue because there are mentally deranged people and government-controlled assassins killing people to help control the people (not gun control…people control). Some have passed laws thinking they are doing a good service, but doing so ignorantly. For the people of Boulder…Vote the commies out of office, that’s the first step in the right direction.
The gun was certified the day it was bought in a store and filled out the background check. And yes Colorado did pass a magazine limit law years ago that’s why mag pull was moving to Wyoming
“Assault weapons or automatic rifles are since rarely used in bank robberies or crimes.”
They are RARELY USED PERIOD. Try educating yourself rather than showing the world how low your IQ is!!!
So, Black Rifle is the latest pseudonym of one of the city politicians who are trolling Internet sites and spewing all sorts of fake information. In the past Black Rifle would have been called Friendly Train and telling the Jews to board the boxcars as they are good for them.
Guys read the code, the OWNER must prove and produce record they were certified. The city not keeping records is irrelevant and you sure as heck can still be prosecuted if that firearm is found in city limits without having been “certified.”
Bolder city counsel should be hung by the neck until dead and left there until the head rots off the corpse!!! Who the fuck do these cock sucking politicians think they are fucking with our 2nd Amendment Rights?!!!! Please post all “public servant” private home addresses, phone numbers, where they work, where their children go to school and any other “private” personal information you can dig up on these miserable fucking traitors!!! This is what happens when you let these cock suckers play “god”…FUCK EVERY ONE OF THEM…ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!!…DOWN TO THE FUCKING JANITORS!!!
It is my humble opinion that you, and people who speak as you do, are a main reason why so many people fear gun owners. You are an out-of-control, hyperbolic hot-head whose language indicates that you easily could go off the tracks. Posting as you do on a forum like this probably doesn’t affect the rest of us much. Please don’t go out in public with your rant, however.
You are the mental defect here. If you believe they aren’t keeping records you’re an Idiot. Next the will be confiscating them. Do your research on other countries who instituted this law. All countries confiscated them! You are one Stupid Idiot!
There is no reason for registering firearms other than future confiscation. California has done this and continues to do so. With that California liberal controlled government and their new extremely anti-gun governor it will probably not be long before the confiscation of registered firearms begins. At that point it will demonstrate and be an example to other gun owners just why they should not register their rifles.
It is difficult to understand the part of the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 where it mentions registration of firearms. There must be some reason why this is never applied. (Ref.: https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/senate-bill/49
There is some summary text in the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 that goes “Amends the rulemaking authority of the Secretary to provide that no regulation may require: (1) the transfer of records required under this Act to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State; or (2) the establishment of any system of registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions. ”
The actual txt goes like this……..
“No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chap-
ter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision
thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established. ”
Exactly what does this mean?
Hey Jim!
260 million + people killed in the 20th century do to common sense gun control, scream out from their graves, and call you an stupid, fringing idiot!
Go play in traffic.
Jim, I’m with you. The vulgar rant by Alexander does nothing but prove a point to the other side. It seems the ones who posted negative comments to you missed the whole point of your response to Alexander.
This is total BS! What part of “Shall not be infringed” do these people not understand? If they don’t keep records how will they know if your weapon has been certified or not. As for “assault weapons” their definition of an assault weapon is merely cosmetic it has nothing to do with an actual weapon. Do they really think people will believe they will not keep the records? If they don’t it will be a total waste of time and resources just to harass gun owners! The term “assault weapon” is a made up term used to frighten the non gun people who don’t know any better.
What doea the NRA do again?
They’re crying the blues about running out of money. Maybe if theyd get a lot more if they DID THEIR FRIKIN JOB!!!
When the ACLU wants something done, it gets DONE. We shouldn’t be having this problem. Between this and California, New Jersey/York, Massachusetts, etc…I’m not giving the NRA another dime.
It’s about time Colonel North who is now the president start talking a leadership role and start traveling to individual states to rally gun owners by holding rallies, speeches etc.. He collecting a salary from the NRA for what? Hey North ; Do your job!
“Some day these weapons will no longer be available…”. Brilliant statement considering that AR15s have been in civilian use since the very early 1960s. IT it the most popular and highest selling rifle in the nation. I’m wondering just how long it will be before “these weapons are no longer available”-maybe in 200 years???
Glad I don’t live there but all my weapons were “registered” by a background check every time I bought one so screw off. The founding fathers would be shooting by now!
Title should read “Local communist politicians drug from their homes and subsequently executed for treason”
With a “definition” of “assault weapon” as broad as that, Boulder will slide down the slippery slope of Assault Baseball Bats, Assault Knives, Scissors and Paper Punches.
Boulder’s City Council, as I recall, also has mandated property zoning laws to prevent hi-rise buildings from blocking the view of the Front Range, and, of course, blocking building homes up the slopes of the Front Range…
That’s their idea of cutting supply of a valued commodity (land and houses) with the incredible belief that it won’t affect home prices…. I lived in Silicon Valley for over two dozen years and watched my puny little home appreciate from $92 thousand to over $800 thousand in that time…. to buy my home back, today, I’d have to find a bank willing to give me a mortgage on the same house, but now at a selling price of about $1.4 MILLION.
None of these jerks have ANY understanding of markets or economics, and I just wonder whom they’ll blame in the future.
As for the gun laws…. Boulder: include MEASUREMENTS and Goals that those gun laws must meet in, say five or ten years…. less shootings, deaths, assaults, etc…. put the number INTO the law NOW and if the goals aren’t met, Sunset The Stupid Law.
…. Never gonna happen, but it’s a great measure of how stupid lawmakers are, everywhere!
“Yes, officer, I brought my rifle in for ‘certification.’ Don’t you have a record of it? So, then, how can you arrest me?” Should be one interesting court case…
“Yes, officer, I brought my rifle in for ‘certification.’ Don’t you have a record of it? So, then, how can you arrest me?” Should be one interesting court case…
No. The owner is required to keep and produce a record of it having been certified
Should be seeing a brisk trade in “blank” or forged certification forms!
Dear Boulder City Council,
Go self-fornicate with an acid-soaked cactus, you Fascist Fuckwits.
Sincerely, The Citizens
I guess the Sgt. heard that people will believe any lie if you tell often enough. If they don’t keep any records, how are they going to prove I did not get my rifle certified?
“Boulder police Sgt. Dave Spraggs stressed to the Post that no records or paperwork are kept of these certifications. ”
So, the Police are doing the certifications in a way that will make the law legally unenforceable. Well, I guess we know whose side the police are on. Good for them.