Gun control groups wasted no time this week capitalizing on Tuesday’s massacre at a high school in Michigan.
A 15-year-old student at Oxford High School used his father’s 9mm handgun to kill four of his schoolmates and wound at least eight others in the early afternoon on Tuesday, November 30. Just hours later, Everytown for Gun Safety, Giffords to Prevent Gun Violence, and Brady: United Against Gun Violence launched a campaign to capitalize on the tragedy.
“Our hearts break for yet another community forever scarred by gun violence in our schools,” Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action, said in an Everytown email sent at 4:16 PM on November 30. “We don’t have to keep living this way, and our children and educators most certainly don’t have to keep dying this way. Ending gun violence demands action and we won’t stop fighting for commonsense solutions to protect our communities and keep our kids safe.”
Brady president Kris Brown posted a tweet at 4:05 PM soliciting donations in the wake of the murders. At 5:15 PM, Moms Demand Action sent a tweet urging their followers to volunteer for the organization, and at 6:42 PM, Gabrielle Giffords used the tragedy to call for “commonsense gun safety laws.”
3 kids were killed and 6 were injured today at Oxford High School in Oakland County, MI.
— Kris Brown | President, bradyunited.org (@KrisB_Brown) November 30, 2021
Our children deserve better which is why we must act now to end this epidemic.
Consider donating to @bradybuzz because the stakes are rising every minute: https://t.co/2HWppkUt0Z https://t.co/Td2uye7zdO
Schools should be sanctuaries of safety for children, teens, and educators—not places they go to die.
— Moms Demand Action (@MomsDemand) November 30, 2021
We don’t have to live this way, and we sure as hell don’t have to die this way. Text ACT to 644-33 to join the fight to #EndGunViolence.
Every day that our country does not pass lifesaving gun laws is another day that we fail our children. This tragedy didn’t have to happen. It’s long past time for our elected leaders to pass commonsense gun safety laws. Our children’s lives—all of our lives—depend on it.
— Gabrielle Giffords (@GabbyGiffords) December 1, 2021
This isn’t freedom.
— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) November 30, 2021
This isn’t happening in any other high income country.
No other nation would tolerate this.
We don’t have to either.
Text ACT to 644-33. Use your voice and vote to stop gun violence.
📸 at Oxford High School in Michigan by @ericseals of @freep pic.twitter.com/FDbVztboBE
Police announced late Tuesday night that the murderer had used his father’s gun to kill his schoolmates, but they have not said whether or how the gun was secured. That hasn’t stopped gun control groups like Giffords from using this tragedy to promote their “safe storage” agenda.
If you want to learn more about policies that would save the lives of children and adults by preventing child access to firearms, we break them down here:https://t.co/zMdiwppi0y
— Giffords (@GiffordsCourage) December 1, 2021
SEE ALSO: Exclusive: When Seconds Count, Armed Teachers Offer Unique Advantages Over Resource Officers
The page in the Giffords tweet includes a donate button midway down, and in another tweet from one day after the murders, Brady urges their supporters to make a donation.
Did you miss #GivingTuesday? It’s not too late!
— Brady | United Against Gun Violence (@bradybuzz) December 1, 2021
In fact, every donation to Brady by midnight TONIGHT will be matched.
Please consider making a donation now to bolster our work to prevent gun violence. https://t.co/ZfFQYOC2pw pic.twitter.com/9YWKwDUDAw
If you’re wondering what anti-gun groups mean by “safe gun storage,” Moms Demand Action posted a helpful infographic (here’s a hint: it eliminates the option for armed self-defense).
Gun owners: Secure gun storage is critical to preventing school shootings. Assume children and teens know where guns are kept, and store them locked, unloaded, and separate from ammunition.
— Moms Demand Action (@MomsDemand) December 1, 2021
Learn more about secure gun storage at https://t.co/U1ttbHNa2k. pic.twitter.com/Vrn8brROsx
Today, Kris Brown moved beyond calling for safe storage and included “universal background checks” and “extreme risk laws” in her list of demands.
No child should fear being shot & killed at school. This is not normal and we don’t have to live this way.
— Kris Brown | President, bradyunited.org (@KrisB_Brown) December 1, 2021
We need:
– universal background checks
– safe storage mandates
– extreme risk laws
– community investment
We know the solutions. Let’s act.#EndGunViolence #GunReformNow https://t.co/QAfDAd4cdD
SEE ALSO: Everytown Recommends Schools Stop Conducting Active Shooter Drills Because They Traumatize Students
It’s totally unclear how either of these policies would have prevented this tragedy. The boy’s father reportedly purchased the handgun, and there has been no indication that the father was a prohibited person.
Michigan does not have an “extreme risk law” (A.K.A “red flag law”) on the books, and the killer allegedly posted threats and photos of the gun on social media prior to the massacre. But even if Michigan had passed a red flag law, it’s unlikely such posts from the boy would have resulted in the father’s firearms being seized.
The tragedy took place in the space of only five minutes, according to initial reports. The suspect fired at least 12 shots, killing four people and injuring eight others. The authorities have identified the dead as Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; Tate Myre, 16; and Justin Shilling, 17.
It’s unclear what kind of security measures the school had in place. Police reportedly apprehended the suspect without incident while he was carrying a loaded gun down a school hallway.
WTF!! This is like the third time that I posted something on this website and it never got posted! I just stated my opinion and just because the mediator didn’t like it, it doesn’t get posted? This is American and Everyone should be able to state their views on a subject! The first amendment is just as important as the second one! I am not going to bother with this blog anymore if objective words can’t be spoken or listen to! This was the biggest failing of parents and society in school shootings in American history! A 15 year old kid is never totally responsible for his actions in life because his brain is not fully developed yet but the parents are!!!!!!
Laws don’t save people, people save people!
This was BY FAR THE MOST EASIEST TO PREVENT school shooting in America of all time!!!! ALL THE SIGNS WERE THERE AND IGNORED! Mainly the stupid parents failed the kid and they WILL PAY for their stupidity for giving their troubled child access to the pistol! Then the school failed by simply not asking the parents if he had access to a gun! And someone at the school might even get charged! This proves one thing, that LEGISLATION CANNOT PREVENT A TRAGEDY LIKE THIS! If the parents followed the law this would not have happened! But people DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO that’s it! Giving their kid what ever he wanted is what ultimately failed him and everyone else that had to pay the price! One last thing, 15 year old children’s brains are NOT FULLY DEVELOPED at that age! That’s why they can’t drive a car by themselves, quit school, go to war or OWN A GUN! Sending that kid to jail for the rest of his life would NOT be justice but sending the parents there would!
Actually, the Parkland shooting was the biggest failure of everyone involved to prevent a school shooting. Hell, that guy had the FBI called THREE times warning about him, not to mention the school itself and local law enforcement. This still ranks up there though. Idiot parents. Idiot Administrators. Idiots for school security.
I’m praying for the families that lost someone bcuz of this terribly twisted up young boy. I’m praying for the many children and teachers that witnessed this terrible tragedy that this terrible twisted young boy committed.
Pull together Good People not apart…
The wicked one’s stand and laugh because we fight amongst each other instead of fighting together against the wicked one’s…
I pray that God will bring comfort peace and strength to the families that are crying for their children and I pray that God’s loving Arm’s be around them now and each day to come and I pray for all the children and teachers that witness this terrible act find comfort in God’s Arm’s now and the day’s to come may God’s loving Holy Spirit bring peace mercy and grace to us all now and forever more, I pray this in Jesus Christ name Amen Amen…
1Nimrod
At least in FL, there are long-standing laws on the books making it a crime to allow unsecured access to guns by children. The solution is simple– yes, lock them up(the guns, not the kids!) when the parents are not home. Either carry the gun when home, or place it where it will be readily accessible, but not where the child would think to look. Know where your kids are all the time; THAT’S actual common sense!
Something’s wrong with the kids today. Thing’s of this sort were not happening in past generations. A schoolyard fist fight was about it, and that was between two individuals.
Lots of questions, very few if any definite answers yet. Just take a step and let the investigation proceed. No one yet knows the full story, and NO ONE here knows enough to do anything more than speculate. So there!
These comments are first read by a moderator. I’ve made several here pointing out law, and validation from history, constitutional tenets, acts, and statutes. All of which point to a specific body performing specific duties for specific purpose. At least, a particular aspect of “A Declaration” and the subsequent Constitution are designed to place Sovereignty in the hands of the People, not public officials.
I have to ask anyone who might read this, including the moderator, when will you read all the words in the 2nd, the original constitutional tenet it was added to maintain, and the fact that this is a government of, by, and for the People, but not the courts or public officials?
The point was, in the record to make sure that Militia, as a lawful authority, could protect and defend the Constitution and all our rights.
I challenge anyone, on either side of the issue to debate me. If we don’t wake up, we will lose this fight at some point.
Might be of interest to all to see if the boy -student was on drugs or some kinda depression medication..Also, was the school a diverse school.. As we have seen in so many instances diversity is not our strength and often Leeds to terrible tensions in schools..
Might it also be of importance that the so called almost mandatory jab has caused a higher percentage of casualties than guns..
Please read the entire US Constitution. Articles 1-6 do not give any government body the right to enact gun control! My rights do not come from government. If they did, it would be a privilege not a Right.
Please read Article VI. Then look up 18 USC 241 and 242. File criminal complaints against those who have conspired against or deprived you of your Rights.
The boy made an adult decision and will be held accountable.
All these tragedies involving kids and guns, where the left always want to blame the gun and access to them, leave out one thing, which is the root of a whole spectrum of problems. Before 1968, when you could order just about anything and the US Mail would deliver it to your door, the main public mass shooting was perpetrated by Charles Whitman, a former Marine who first killed his mother and wife with a knife. We have gone from a very open buying option, to a very closed one, and now kids shoot up kids. It is never the gun or access to it, it is what is in the kids minds that makes him kill their classmates. People n e v e r talk about the level of violence in video games kids, and in many cases their parents, participate in. To deny that input combined with the ability to access a firearm for a kids source of a perceived solution to problems at school is as ridiculous as making more gun laws as an answer. When I played cops and robbers, WW II army, cowboys and Indians, it was bang your dead, not a true to life magazine fed full auto, that splattered the enemy against the wall. But, none of us in the heat of battle ever thought of it as a solution to a school problem. If we did have an issue with a kid, where cussing each other and name calling did not work, and it lead to a fight, that normally would solve the issue, and that altercation did not get you kicked out of school or arrested for assault because of it. In 1965 we did a school play, we were requested to bring rifles, no ammo please. 30 boys brought everything from a .22 single shot, to Garands, I brought a Japanese Arisaka my dad brought back from the Pacific. We all did our play, a John Philips Sousa tribute, and nobody shot anybody.
How dare these anti gunners take advantage of another school massacre to promote their gun control agenda! After Sandy Hook, America has accepted the idea that slaughtering school kids is acceptable! What is the matter with these people?
“Never let a crisis go to waste”
That’s been true on Both sides. The NRA(of which I’m a long-standing member) has perpetually used the anti-gunners’ reaction to a shooting tragedy to ask for donations to thwart the “avalanche of gun control” sure to soon come. Even conservative pundits on various media relish such incidents, as it’s their bread & butter. They’ll milk it to death for extended airplay. It’s all sick.
I’m pro freedom but as i drive down the road and 8 of 10 are brandishing a cell phone wile driving…
I don’t think 8 of ten should be allowed to drive a car why should I feel different about guns.
That being said, I lock up arms even though I live alone and I don’t drive while on a cell either.
Mental health awareness, norms, values and common sense are the path to rectification on road we never should have turned down in the first place. I behave the way I do because I’m the product of my enviornment as a child. That’s what’s missing and no legislation is going to change that.
Be the answer, every one of you….
“I’m pro freedom but as i drive down the road and 8 of 10 are brandishing a cell phone wile driving…
I don’t think 8 of ten should be allowed to drive a car why should I feel different about guns.”
Maybe you should feel different because driving is a privilage and “guns” are a recognized right. Hey, maybe you ain’t “profreedom.”
First off watch how you talk to people, you don’t know who’s ready to break.
Second how would background checks have stopped this? The dad didn’t do it, his kid did.
Third why are all the gun owners who had NO involvement what so ever, about to be held responsible? Longer wait periods, magazine bans, parts bans. Social media reviews, because if you have an opinion you’ll be labeled dangerous. Post to often? Red flag. Don’t post enough? Also a red flag.
Congrats america. Your rights are now subject to removal on the whims of others.
Real life run by FB rules. Don’t like FB jail? To bad. No judge, no jury, straight to prosecution and guess who’s guilty?
You.
Your big mistake is being on those social media platforms in the first place.
The father may be culpable if he negligently allowed access to a loaded pistol by his son, then wasn’t even aware he took it. Also, if the father was aware that his son had “problems,” he should have taken extra precautions to secure his weapon. Perhaps an investigation will reveal what’s what here.
Lastly, you seem to be woefully ignorant as to what is really behind all the “common-sense gun safety” agenda. Find out before it’s too late!
Secure the weapon? If you have a nut job for a kid, maybe you shouldn’t buy him a gun to begin with. If I had a nut job kid move in, all guns would have trigger locks AND be in the gun safe, and the child would NOT have access to the safe. But buying him a “new toy” four days or so before the shooting seems a tad bit suspect, IMHO.
Well this is embarrassing…. Turns out the dad is a dink. He bought his disturbed kid a pistol… Welp most of what I said still holds true…
Just hours later? How is that possible? Do these asshats have a QRF that sits around monitoring police scanners all day?
Anyway, it’s a new record (and a new low) for dancing in the blood of the victims.
Liberals need to shut their pie holes and fix the real problem. Children raised without knowledge or understanding of right versus wrong continues to feed these situations. When SCOTUS erringly took prayer out of schools and then ruled it was legal to kill unborn babies we’ve raised generations of children who only care about themselves and no one else.More gun laws only acerbate legal gun owners rights and never fix the problem of prosecutor’s letting felons free with wrist slaps and no jail time. Guys as this kid and the driver of the mow vehicle deserve quik justice as say a lead vitamin
Kid should be tried as an adult, if found guilty, should be executed IMMEDIATELY. Dad needs to do 20 yrs for being stupid. Leave the rest of us who haven’t shot or killed anyone alone. Why do these asshats want to punish innocent people for the crimes others commit?
Sigh. You’re another one who just Does Not understand what is going on. Some of these groups pushing for more & more gun control have been propagandized by the evil puppet masters, who have a Very different goal in mind other than saving innocent lives. The members of those groups, and their supporters, truly believe that restrictions on legal firearms(and their owners) is the answer to ending senseless gun violence. They are useful tools in the minds of the puppet masters. When the weapon of choice is a knife, what do you hear? Yeah, that’s right, nothing. That’s because the globalist subversives don’t fear a populace armed with knives or swords.
The problem is difficult to correct, as those in the gun control groups have been thoroughly indoctrinated, and therefor are immune to rational, factual enlightenment. I have personally experienced this more than once. They really need to be deprogrammed; sorta like cult members.
Now you know why they will never “Leave the rest of us who haven’t shot or killed anyone alone.”
Don’t know what happened to the last sentence in my last post- should read: Somebody that want to do horrific things will generally find a way to do it by whatever available means they deem most effective at the time. How are you going to legislate that from happing?
Father could be charged with involuntary manslaughter for leaving his gun accessible to the punk-ass son (has been successfully prosecuted in Michigan in previous cases and upheld by the courts). These parents were also aware of “behavior problems” with this punk and had been in the school for a meeting the day before and day of the shooting. The sheriff claims that his department and SRO were not informed of these “behavior problems” prior to the shooting. Lots of video evidence and social media evidence being collected….another case of missed opportunities and irresponsible parenting that could’ve stopped this moron from killing. SMH
Right on point.
I’m of the of the school of thought a person is required to take responsibility for safe gun ownership and making sure that that weapon does not get in to the hands of a another person unless the situation is fully vetted by by the gun owner. My views differ from the short sighted gun control fanatics who’s solution to every problem is yet more ineffective legislation the does more to penalize law abiding citizens then solve the problem that inspired said legislation. Rather then drafting more useless legislation as to how store our firearms, how to do this and how to do that, let’s instead assume that a person that has the right to own a fire arm IS intelligent enough to keep that firearm out of unintended hands by a method that works for THEIR particular situation. For my situation a gun safe ( actually I have two of them) works for me. Another individual living in a high crime area would most likely require a different solution to be safe. I can just almost hear the gun control fanatics scream that that just doesn’t work these shorting keep happing! We gotta do something! If you want to do something on the legislation side of things that MIGHT make a difference: Pass laws that SEVERELY PUNISH those that negligently allow their weapon to get into the wrong hands. I’m talking like this father of the 15 year old that left the gun out so that it could be used in a school shooting receive the same punishment or worse a his son who is being tried as an adult. A few high profile cases like that and hopefully the message transmits that hey yes you have a right to own a gun. BUT with owner ship as with many other thing comes responsibility’s and if not taken seriously we’ll throw the book at you for negligence. Will this fix the problem? Wish it would be that easy. Somebody that wants to do horrific things generally with find a way to do it by using whatever mess s they ding most effective that’s available to them.
There have been many solutions to the school shootings but as always the anti’s wont accept/allow them…..so who is actually the guilty party in this. And what about the parade victims? Are they somehow less dead? Seems there was more carnage but the only thing i have seen is excuses to mitigate the bad guy’s role in that one. I say run them both thru a wood chipper on slow speed, put it on pay per view and let the proceeds go to the victims/families!!!
And yet again, the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of innocent school children. How many more school shootings before Brandon lets go on gun violence? How many more dead kids before certain members of Congress will yield to common sense? How much blood money does the soul of an elected Republican cost? Is it more than 30 pieces of silver?
The laws are in place. Too many to be exact. But guns don’t kill people. People kill people. It was about time for the left to construct a mass shooting to use peoples emotions to chip away the last of our freedoms.
I hope you can walk to work bluedog because cars kill more people every year than firearms. Just like the parade massacre when the guy ran over all those people. We need to ban all vehicles. Next is airplanes. Remember that pilot in Europe that flew the plane into the mountain killing all those men, women and children. I am tired of vehicles and airplanes killing people. It’s not people killing people it’s the inanimate object they use. Everyone knows that.
Blue Dog, I want to give you some facts from someone, obviously myself, who has studied the Columbine High School shooting for years and even knows the father of one of the girls that have died there personally, because you are, in my opinion, wrong in what you have stated.
As Willis Cockswell has already stated, the laws already exist and they have in fact already existed before Columbine, the school shooting which truly started it all, despite all the school shootings that have already happened before Columbine. For example, sawn-off shotguns were already forbidden by Colorado law before Columbine even happened. Yet, two of the four guns that have been used in the shooting were sawn-off shotguns. The shotguns have been bought legally by a girlfriend, Robyn K. Anderson, of the two shooters, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, at a gun show. After she bought the guns, she has given those to Eric and Dylan and they have sawn them off. The law, which did forbid sawn-off shotguns, didn’t matter to them at all, as the law never matters to criminals and especially not to people that have decided to kill other people and then, at least in most cases, commit suicide.
After the Columbine High School shooting, they have closed the so-called “gun show loophole”. Since that happened, one is required to go through a background check, before purchasing a gun at a gun show. Yet, even if these background checks would have already existed before Columbine the background check of Mrs. Anderson would have turned out just fine. The only thing that it would have changed is that Eric and Dylan would have received their guns 1-2 days later, but they would still have gotten their hands on them anyway. So, another law that is pointless and won’t stop any school shooting or any other kind of shooting.
Think about something: So many laws have been placed since Columbine throughout the country, infringing the 2nd amendment numerous times, yet did these laws ever helped stopping these senseless tragedies? The answer is clear: No, they did not. In fact, the amount of (school) shootings and numbers of people killed and wounded during such a shooting have risen since Columbine to a very high and alarming level. Back then, Columbine was, as the media has stated, the single worst massacre in US history, although even back then this was not correct (Bath school bombings in 1928 with 44 victims killed, University of Texas Tower shooting in 1966 with 15 victims killed). Today, Columbine is not even in the top ten of the worst school shootings anymore, even after all these anti-gun laws have been put in place because of those! This is how useless new laws actually are, yet after every shooting like this one “our” politicians always make the same horrible mistakes. And no, this has nothing to do with either being a republican or a democrat.
To me, common sense is to take care of our children, listen to them, taking care of possible psychological issues of theirs, taking all kinds of warning signs very seriously and, to sum it up, grab the problem at its very roots. Every psychologist will tell you that school shooters do not just snap, go out and then shoot people at their school. It is a very long process, combined with depressions, suicidal tendencies/thoughts of suicide and things like that. The guns are just the tools they use when it is already too late, but they are not and will never be the issue of school shootings. For example, the home of Dylan Klebold was anti-gun, as Mrs. Klebold, his mother, later mentioned, because they have never kept guns at the house. Yet, this did not help stopping Columbine either.
I could write even more facts, but I think and hope that you get the idea. New laws won’t help anyone and guns are not and will never be the reason of why these shootings happen, that is a fact. They may be the tools for doing those massacres, but they are not the things to be blamed for those.
When you manage to pull your head out of your bunghole, then come back and make an intelligent comment.
Until then, go troll someplace else!