House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Rep. Mike Thompson, and former Arizona Rep. Gabby Giffords unveiled a bill on Tuesday that would prohibit the private sale of firearms. With the exception of law enforcement and the transfer of guns between friends and family, all gun sales would require a background check be conducted on the prospective buyer.
“Thanks to the relentless efforts of advocates, courageous gun violence survivors, and the American voters who elected new leaders to Congress, I am thrilled that for the first time in decades, the United States House of Representatives will no longer sit silent as our nation reels from the growing gun violence epidemic,” Giffords said in a statement announcing the legislation from Pelosi’s office.
The major anti-gun advocacy groups also voiced their support for the bill.
Moms Demand Action Founder Shannon Watts called the legislation “an essential step towards ending America’s gun violence crisis,” and Everytown for Gun Safety President John Feinblatt said the bill proves “gun safety is no longer the third rail of American politics.”
Not to be outdone, David Hogg threw in his two cents during a CNN interview (see video above), claiming that the NRA opposes universal background checks because “after every single mass shooting, gun sales go up significantly and the NRA benefits from that.”
SEE ALSO: Korwin: Here’s Why You Need Oppose Universal Background Checks
Ironically, neither the Parkland massacre Hogg used to launch himself into the public spotlight nor the incident survived by Rep. Giffords would have been prevented by the bill they’re peddling. In both cases, the murderer acquired his firearms legally after passing a background check.
“Instead of looking for effective solutions that will deal with the root cause of violent crime and save lives, anti-gun politicians would rather score political points and push ineffective legislation that doesn’t stop criminals from committing crimes,” Jennifer Baker, an NRA spokesperson, said in a statement.
Proponents of the bill say that too many Americans acquire firearms without undergoing a background check. In an email to supporters, Everytown for Gun Safety claims, “the Internet has emerged as a massive, unregulated marketplace, where hundreds of thousands of gun sales take place with no background check. A recent study suggests nearly a quarter of Americans who obtain a firearm do so without getting a background check.”
Gun ban advocates frequently reference this study, which was released in 2017 and found that, based on survey data, about 22 percent of Americans have obtained a firearm in the past two years without undergoing a background check.
SEE ALSO: Korwin: Media Continues to Deceive with Background Check ‘News’
Their findings departed significantly from previous estimates, which put the number around 40 percent in the early ’90s. But even this new, lower number is misleading, for only 13 percent of purchased firearm transfers that took place within the last two years occurred without a background check.
Considering most people don’t gift firearms to strangers, the study suggests that a large percentage of non-background-check firearms are “obtained” from friends and family, two categories of people that would not be required from undergoing a background check under the proposed legislation.
Pelosi’s bill, in other words, only targets a tiny percentage of firearms purchasers, many of whom are unlikely to commit crimes.
As evidence for this, a recent Johns Hopkins study found that California’s long-standing universal background check law had no effect on either suicide or homicide in the state.
They found “no change in the rates of either cause of death from firearms through 2000.”
The new legislation is likely to pass the House, where Democrats hold a 36-seat majority. Several Republicans have also pledged their support of the bill, including Rep. Peter King (R-NY) the lead GOP sponsor, Rep. Brian Mast (R-FL) and Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ)
Though Senate GOP leaders have yet to comment, it remains unlikely the bill will get any attention on the floor.
These young people dont know what they are talking about. There are no unlicensed gun dealers.
I bet when this new law is passed they still won’t prosecute felons who try to buy.so what good is it???
We spent millions on the nics check and we don’t arrest gun criminals when we have a signed 4473 CONFESSING to a crime.
He still looks like goebbels.but it looks like he found the tan in a can.
Pumpkin goebbels
Where I live all ya gotta do is let them run ya for felonies and a few minutes and you’re on your way. Known felons may sell or issue weapons to other known felons “like someone was saying here”but if they get caught they go back to jail. Felons shouldn’t have guns (Unless properly vetted) all thinking people know that
I have to read into it more but this sounds like “Common Sense ” legislation to me. Law Abiding people should be able to buy a firearm easley,and bad people should not. Criminals need to stay in their lane; Responsible Firearm Owners and law enforcement are very well equipped.
I get, but don’t get it. This will NOT stop Bad FFL’s or criminals from selling known felons guns out of the trunk of a car or in a dark alley. You need to get the traffickers selling to known felons off the street. The straw purchasers buying that gun for their Crip, Blood, MS-13 boyfriend. Not gonna stop a damn thing!!! The mental patients that tell their therapist, “I’m gonna go shoot up a bunch of people for no reason”. Doctor-Patient privilege goes out the window after that. What about falsifying the back round form when it ask if your seeing a doctor for a mental issue and checking, “No”. Criminals don’t need to go through the hassle of doing a back round check, when “John on 4th and Grand will sell you his stolen guns, AND make you a fake D.L. since you lost yours for that DUI 4 years back. I’m out.
Aw come on people – leave poor little David alone. How would you like to go through high school with a name like Hogg? He probably spent more time stuffed in his own locker than he did in class. Plus the poor little nerd most likely had his head stuffed in the toilet on a regular basis. But now this little twerp can run around saying, “Look at me – I’m finally relevant.” Now he can marry some brood sow and start raising little Hogglets. SOOO-EEEE!!!
Sly…. Trump is a Domestic Terrorist and using Terrorism to get his way. The Oath I took tell me Trump is the enemy of this Country, if you support Trump you are a traitor and should call Putin and put your name on the good old boy, who love Russia list with Trump. Are you serious?? Please I need to know how Trump is a Terrorist and how he is using Terrorism against anyone. It is amazing since he has been in the spotlight most of his life and no one ever called him that before. As a matter of fact he was awarded by Jesse Jackson for helping minorities. I believe we have a right to have guns and I would never surrender any of mine. The Democrats these days are too frightening for me. They want socialism/communism and the NWO.
Another brainwashed
Imbecile, I got news for you ya nitwit, the Democrat party and the MSM are domestic terrorists in this equation.
Harvard is now grooming this little high school fascist to run for national office. He didn’t have the money or grades to get in but they recruited him because they like his anti-second amendment stance.
DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These young folks having been brainwashed since early childhood in school have no idea that they are opening the door to a tyrannical government. Most Americans are law abiding. Their heart is
What ever happened to Cindy Sheehan ? Oh that’s right once she was longer useful to the left they discarded her like a piece of trash. Tick toc Doushe Hogg you will be also tossed in the trash when you longer are the flavor of the day.
I new it !! Nancy is a cougar that loves Hogg’s.
That asshole Hogg is a lying POS. He wasn’t even in the school according to his own statements. As for making more restrictions, or laws, KISS MY WHITE ANGLO SAXON ASS. I will not turn in, register, get a background check to buy new guns. I can sell my long guns without any sort of permission since none of them have had form 4473 run on them. Bottom line is this new congress is going to be 2 years of being a lame duck congress. They won’t be able to pass squat, and get it to the POTUS, the senate won’t bring it to the floor for a vote. Even if they do, Trump will veto it, and the dementocraps don’t have enough votes to override.
What a POS Hogg is! He just got accepted to Harvard on a “Full Ride” scholarship because Harvard said he was just what they were looking for in future students! Hogg can kiss my American Red Ass. If I EVER saw him in public, I would kick his cowardly ass!
Hogg is not a survivor, he WAS NOT THERE when it happened
why would any law abiding citizen object to this?
Because it won’t have any effect on gun violence in the US. Please read the article again where it states the study showed California’s gun control efforts have shown to be ineffective. Stop trying to paint yourself as some sort of model citizen when you fall for the bait the Democrats throw out there regarding “common sense” gun control. If you don’t change your point of view you’re simply a simple minded sheep……just what the Democrats love to use and they use you for your vote…..nothing else.
PLEASE STOP LYING ON THE DEMOCRATS, The few who talk about Gun control and all the restrictions on gun owners are only about 15% of Democrats and they do it for votes. I’m Democrat, I enlisted in the USAF in Sept 1967, i retired in Oct 1991, I worked another 3 years Civil Servant USN, Pearl Harbor. I fought for what you free loaders want, I and 75% of Democrats wants actually what we continue to fight for. I gave a Oath in 1967 to defend The Constitution and Democracy, from both Domestic and Foreign Terrorist and terrorism, that oath still hold true today. I am a Honorable man i still stand by that Oath. Trump is a Domestic Terrorist and using Terrorism to get his way. The Oath I took tell me Trump is the enemy of this Country, if you support Trump you are a traitor and should call Putin and put your name on the good old boy, who love Russia list with Trump. I will never give up the rights to own guns, of all type, for anyone, I fought for my rights to own any gun i want, what did you do for freedom?? you don’t even want to pay taxes, you want to free load off this country and not do a thing for it. Now you think you have all the privilege we who fought to own our piece of this country have and you got the nerve to comment and bad mouth children who faced a AR-15 with no defense, how would you like to face My AR-15 with no defense. Let these children say what they want, they are only children, what damage can they do to the Shooting Industry??. They are trying to find their confidence a fool took from them. I have 12 guns and have a Thompson Tommy gun on order, whenever if feel the urge to buy another gun, i will
Didn’t need to say you were a Democrap. It pretty well was exposed with your meaningless, anti-patriotic comment
Amen brother. Well said.
Your lunacy about a sitting president being a “terrorist” is laughable and demonstrates how unhinged many of your kind are. Normally I would salute you for your service but I don’t salute trolls who think they know everything and fall in with the likes of Pelosi and Schumer. My AK would “trump” your .22 caliber mouse gun. ESAD!!!!
This guy David Hogg not only looks like an annoying Mosquito he’s out for blood also, wont somebody please swat his ass.
What liars those Demwits are. When you go order a firearm on line the seller must send the gun to a registered dealer. Before the dealer gives you the gun he calls the NICS SYSTEM for an instant yes or no on the sale. THE NATIONAL INSTANT BACKGROUND SYSTEM IS RUN BY THE FBI WHO DO THE CHECK.
FUCK David Hogg and Nancy Pelosi too. I hope they get hit by a train.
If this is not an infringement then these laws should be used for voting. If you can’t pass a background you can’t vote.
The little punk has simply found a way to benefit himself off the deaths of fellow classmates! Typical liberal piece of 💩! And the Democrats are hell bent on destroying this Nation for the Globalists. If we were ever gonna excersize our 2A for what it was created for the time to do so is slipping by, another 10 years and all youth will be indoctrinated and the youth like Hogg will be in Govt. Just keep sending them to school folks!
Stop enabling this hogg punk and it will disappear for Gods sake.
All of these young people and others who are basking in the spotlight of media coverage of school shootings and other gun violence events are seeking attention. These people have little if any understanding of the factors that contribute to such events. The unfortunate problem is our legislators at all levels are no better.
Hogg is a puppet. He is a political wanabe for the demorats.
As long as you think that guns are the root of this problem, you will never have a viable solution. You can make good people jump through hoops, but it won’t stop bad people from committing a crime. Part of the mishandling of this case was the delay in doing anything constructive because the pundits were listening to this little jerk who was not even on the premises when the shooting happened. He knew, instantaneously that there was a story to be told, so he rushed home and got a recording device and went back to interview fellow students.
The fallacious thinking here is that a background check would work. Also, it would provide a false sense of safety. Criminals don’t care if they create a false identity to buy a gun. Anybody can do that, including an illegal alien.
When I was a kid, my parents gave me a chemistry set. I did some “experimentation” because I liked to hear explosions. Those same chemicals are readily available at hardware stores today, and you don’t have an age limit or need to sign anything. As Oklahoma City showed us, there is a better way to commit mass murder.
England has strict gun control, but their murder rate in London is higher than New York. The difference is the killing done with knives or good old fashioned blunt force trauma.
There are people with severe mental illness and nobody is reading their signs. If schools don’t do much except teaching kids how to pass a test, then perhaps it is time for them to dig into the heads of students to see what makes them tick.
Most people just listen to what others have to say. Some of the “others” have conflicting views, but still, people want to hear somebody tell them what to do. They have been described as “sheeple.” Some of us call those non-thinkers “Democrats.” The truth is, we all listen, but some people don’t hear. And what we choose has to make sense in our own heads as well. So, we now have to determine “common sense.” That is a lot harder because people come up with false notions, and too many people fall in line and agree. They are afraid to have an independent thought for fear of ostracism.
every time you buy a weapon you get a check form 4470, just more commie bullshit
FORM IS ACTUALLY 4473
Someone needs to tell Pelosi and this group of socialist that the U.S. ranks 62nd, below countries like Norway (14), Finland (31), Switzerland (45) and Russia (51), when it comes the murder rate from mass public shootings per 100,000 people. This type of legislation will do nothing to lower that number since someone intent on killing as many as possible will find a weapon to do it with. In the 1970s and 80s we had a bomb epidemic if I remember correctly.
We have some of the best at preventing and ending early this type of violence. Unfortunately we have gun free zones or better titled “free kill zones” that prevent those people who would carry a gun from doing so. And they help those that would kill a large number of people do so with no resistance.
Amen brother. Well said. You hit the nail on the head. The El Paso, Texas shootings were at WAL MART, a store that ask legally concealed carry folks to not bring their weapons in their establishment. I noticed that at the WalMart store nearest to me removed their signs asking folks to leave their guns in their car. If thats true that gives the bad guys two chances without any deterents. Free weapons in cars and unarmed citizens inside. A criminals wet dream. How much of this fact has been reported by lying fake news. Also means prices at Wal Mart will be going up to pay for legal fees and lawsuits. This whole scenario makes no sense at all, but when has anything to do with politics made sense. When I hear there has been a mass shooting, I know before the blood on the ground has dried the democrats and the anti gunners will be out spinning their bullshit.
I refuse to follow unjust laws that infringe on my constitutional rights. Sua Sponte
Virtually every American survived this shooting along with David Hogg, since like HIM, we weren’t there! Apparently Hogg, like Rahm Emanuel and Barack HUSSEIN Obama II believes in their mantra to “Never waste a bad situation!”.
As much as I am repulsed by the comments of the neocommunist
Hogg , and as much as I believe that he has been manipulated by
mentally defective elders , I do feel sorry for him ….. in a way .
True , he has assured a free indoctrination at a Marxist training
facility , and he’ll reap the benefits of never having to work for a
living . Additionally , he’s preparing for a career in politics .
I am certain he’ll become a representative , senator, Hell , he may
even be governor one day . That is why I pity the swine . Yet another
form of human debris , to prove his disloyalty to the country that
provides the freedom that he will wish to deny others .
Deplorable , nauseating , and repugnant .
Hogg wasn\’t even there. He\’s not a \”victim\”. He\’s a lying limousine riding, private jet flying, bodyguard watching pos liberal progress ive snowflake that the msm continues to prop up as some sort of hero. Pffft.
Why should we listen to this Hogg guy. Background checks are already there. We have so many laws on the books that are not enforced! At one time I had a FFL and when someone failed a background check there was nothing done to those people who are denied. Personally I’m glad I don’t have a FFL. If the government would enforce the laws on the books it would be great. This gun control stuff is just PEOPLE control!!
Wow I feel safer already ! I’m gonna take my 1 gun that I own n put it back in the safe . No worries now . There’s no way there can be any crime now .
I say my one gun cause of the boating accident lastweek. You see I was out on the ocean in my rowboat and it tipped over because of a dolphin . I was only able to save the one gun I had in my hand . Such a tragedy. But on a different but same note . I’d love to take David Pigg or Hogg out to the same area to show him where it all happened . But to be safe I have some cement shoes for him to wear . Just so he doesnt fall out band all . You know SAFETY FIRST .
Are you saying there is now a dolphin armed with an illegal gun out there? Illegal because he didn’t get a background check before you transferred it to him.
World History and gun Control 56 million people were rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century after being disarmed by their Government! 1911- Turkey established Gun Control and from 1915 to 1917 1.5 million Armenians were rounded up and exterminated. 1929- Soviet Union established Gun Control and from 1929 to 1953 20 million dissidents were rounded up and exterminated. 1935 – China established Gun Control and from 1948 to 1952 20 million political dissidents were rounded up and exterminated. 1938 – Germany established Gun Control and from 1939 to 1945 13 million Jews and others were rounded up and exterminated. 1956 – Cambodia established Gun Control and from 1975 to 1977 1 million educated people were rounded up and exterminated. 1964 – Guatemala established Gun Control and from 1964 to 1981 100 thousand Mayan Indians were rounded up and exterminated. 1970 – Uganda established Gun Control and from 1971 to 1979 300 thousand Christians were rounded up and exterminated. Do You Still want Gun Control????
Oh dear, Hyper Hoggwash and his co-conspirators, the kindergarten poster children for calling 991 in an emergency, will be sorely disappointed when the U.S. Senate runs the House’s hoped for bill, which is an affront on the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution, through the document shredder where it belongs…
His mother is a production person for CNN shes laying the ground work for the snow flake to be groomed for a job
Comrade Hogg polly-parrot’s whatever drivel his marxist handlers formulate.
Boss Hogg is actually wrong about gun sales going up “significantly” after mass shootings occur. While some “households” may take that as a sign that they need to address their own home/personal security needs, what REALLY drives gun sales through the proverbial roof is the constant threat of banning certain guns, certain magazines and passing legislation that threatens to make purchasing firearms very difficult. It’s THAT threat the drives people to gun stores NOT mass shooting tragedies. Remember when they threatened to ban AR style long guns back in the day? About 48 hours after they made that threat, you couldn’t hardly find AR style guns or ammunition and if you were lucky enough to find one back then, the prices almost doubled! If our government REALLY wanted to pass gun laws, those sneaky bastards should do it the same way they unanimously voted themselves a pay raise during a fairly secretive mid-night session.
“With the exception of law enforcement and the transfer of guns between friends and family,”
If that is the exception, what is to keep a criminal from saying a person was a friend? More “feel good” legislation. Never mind that to even implement a “universal background check” you would need “universal registration” for it to be effective. And pray, where are they going to get the money for a universal registration system when Trump can’t even get money for a wall?
This little punk wants to be a hero he miss his chance when he said on national TV he saw the boy running away after the shooting why didnt say something then. Because he a cowart also said he heard the guy talking before the shooting, you showed your colors, this punk needs to go home hide in your bedroom your mom is calling you.
Didn’t even click on the link to watch two puppet fools on the Clinton News Network! That Hogg pig didn’t get shot because he wasn’t even where the shooting took place. Will have to let him know where to be next time.
The right to keep and bear arms is an UNALIENABLE right which government has NO authority to infringe!
BTW – that little 2-hole Hogg is NOT a survivor of the Parkland shooting any more than anyone else who was NOT THERE when it occurred.
Sooooo, now we have teenagers on the brink of enacting laws thru over aged career politicians ? Yet this David Hogg wasn’t even in the Parkland HS when the shooting was going on yet he now a “survivor” and an self appointed expert ? Perhaps the real tragedy was how the shooter managed to gain access to this school ? Not to mention how the school policeman ran from the sound of gun fire ? This whole mess reeks of mismanagement and gross negligence !
What is a UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK? Currently is there any place you can buy a gun, with the exception of law enforcement and the transfer of guns between friends and family, that you do not have to pass a background check?
I am sympathic to your cause and applaud the effort the two of you are putting in to curb these horrific events. However Passing and record a thousand laws on paper will still not stop the lawless among us. The key word is LAWLESS. The lawless portion of our society obviously do not read our adhere to the laws we already have. Please explain to me how another peace of paper on the books will change the behavior of the lawless among us.
From the mouth of babes? His parents must be real Leftist dolts, pushing their leftist goals of gun confiscation on their son. I actually feel sorry for the little Hogg. How would you feel growing up in Florida with the last name Hogg? I’m sure he was abused by other kids at school. Now he feels he wants to take out his anger on the rest of us. This left wing gun bull crap make him feel like he has the power.
Their claim to requiring universal background checks is based on what they title as “Common Sense” gun legislation. But they don’t use that same common sense approach when it comes to a border wall.
Hogg was not even there when it all went down. I do wish this BOZO would STFU!
Gun ownership is a constitutional right. The transfer or sale of personal property is a right. How about the millions of weapon that have been sold to our enemies, communist, Muslins and everyone else. This is an illegal act on our rights. But my beloved America has become dormant and because of the few fools millions of US Americans pay the price with preposterous laws that affect our freedom and the US Constitution. When do we stand up for our natural born rights and say enough is enough. We have over 300 million people percentage wise how many crimes are committed with stolen or no background checks ? This is just a crock of s_ _ _ .
The problem of preventing terrorism/mass shootings is one that has far deeper roots than universal background check law, and such a law certainly doesn’t do what is needed to prevent the citizens who are already here in this country acting on their beliefs against our society. With that being said, understanding that these are really two totally separate issues, I have never understood why you would need a background check to buy a gun from a licensed dealer, but not to acquire one privately. The background isn’t for the transfer of money, it is for the ownership of the weapon. If us gun owners want to be taken seriously politically and not viewed as “right wing psychopaths” we should really consider the image we are projecting by opposing a law like this… with very few exceptions – if you can’t pass a background check then there is likely a rationale reason you shouldn’t be trusted with a gun. This proposed law doesn’t take guns away from any of us, and perhaps it could even be one of those unique issues where we have the chance to be the bigger man in this bipartisan stalemate and “reach across the isle” if you will… maybe actually get something done in the country for once instead being forced to follow a 72 year old’s Twitter feed
Please speak for yourself when you paint gun owners as “right wing psychopaths”. The one’s I know are nothing like the caricature you depict.
Further, the 2A doesn’t specify background checks; I’m still waiting for the Fed Gov to start prosecuting the many folks who have lied on their 4473.
And your “reach across the isle”…do you mean an island? Possibly you meant aisle?
Anytime there are exceptions in a new gun bill, the exceptions are removed a short time later. The “except” friends and family will soon be eliminated if the bill passes. It is not about safety. It is about disarming America. This is the democrat’s communist leaning spewing out.
Democrat’s are the communists
useable idiot’s.. They need to be removed from the USA..
We could suggest to our representatives, and others that almost all of what they purport to want to bring about as “gun safety” would be had simply and completely by revitalization of the Militia. Anyone who has bothered to study the true nature of the Right and Duty to Keep and Bear Arms will know that this is all possible on a self-enforcing basis. We would all be members of the militia, and provide the needed checks without government intervention, and more efficiently as it would be ongoing.
If the NRA, GOA, and the other supposed 2nd Amendment “advocates” took that position, they could completely undercut the “gun-control” fanatics.
Lordy, there is so much wrong with your post, I don’t know where to begin.
We have bigger fish to fry. How about background checks for voting before we attempt background checks for private property transfers.
@Fal Phil – May I suggest that you take some time to study the basic foundation of this Nation. It is a country of sovereigns that is not beholding to agencies of government. To enforce that the Founders understood that the People must hold the ability “to execute the Laws of the Union”.
If we were to reclaim that power, then we could fry all the fish “necessary” to right the nation.
However, having studied the character of man I realize that I’m just spitting into the wind: “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
Would anyone please tell me exactly where did the Known illegal in Ca. that shot the cop get the gun
that nobody will mention ?
see,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bOJiTskr6w
Hey Davis why dont you move to China or Mexico they dont allow guns and then you can be happy ! we have a constitution and a second amendment!
Building a following on the death and blood of his classmates, how quaint. Reminiscent of history, when another named Adolf who built his following on the death and blood of the Jews, along with anyone else who was considered the enemy of the state. Very dangerous precedent. It is time to squelch these actions before it continues any further. It is time for this child to be educated in the history of Western Civilization. Even a crash course would be recommended.
Anti-constitutionalist’s sense of morality is situational, based on incident and emotion, instead of rooted in God’s word and law.
Anti-constitutionalist’s stand for nothing. The situation determines their support for an issue and their emotions rule, not reason and rationality.
Moreover, they recognize the contradiction, but still cling to their situational justice. Situational justice is the tool of dictators, tyrants, despots, and unjust, unrighteous monarchs. It has no place in a free constitutional republic. In which the United States of America is……………….
Socialism>Communism>Gun Control=Disarmament=Extermination…
Wake Up Children!
BOTH Giffords and Hogg are living proof that the strict enforcement of laws could prevent crimes! In both cases the shooters (Cruz and Loughner) were psychotics who could have been, at least, barred legal firearms possession, if the laws permitting the identification and possible commitment of the mentally ill were enforced. In both cases the miscreants were known to local police who failed to enforce existing laws.
Hogg is just another sorry liberal whose best part was left on the sheets.
Little Hitler hogg has really no idea or understanding of what he’s pushing. Doesn’t understand that his leftist and liberal ways are mostly to blame for the meltdown of society. We had hardly any of these issues when America was still a Great Nation of Freedom and Democracy. His leftist’s beliefs and efforts are being backed by the democrats who are making him rich, getting him into one of the best liberal colleges. A whole lot of similarities of the rise of hilter to power. Hopefully there are enough intelligent people out there who can think for themselves to keep fending off these leftist ideas.
I have a FFL and I sell guns. The background check is a way for the FBI to track a gun from the maker all the way to the end user. If I do a check and transfer a gun, it has to first be in my inventory, So a FFL somewhere would transfer a gun to me, I would enter the gun in my ATF log book , do a bg check and transfer the gun to someone else.
Why would anyone take on the liability and trouble for a few dollars?
How can a back ground check ever stop anyone from getting a gun?
The issue I have is the anti gun whackos will never be satisfied with background checks. Some rinos think that this will appease both sides of the issue. If this gets through congress the anti gun nuts will become energized and go for more controls until they get what they really want, a total ban.
He’s a liar. He doesn’t want background checks. He wants gun bans. Or rather a total ban on the private possession of firearms. The gun banning whackos are never going to be satisfied with universal background checks. This is just the first step. The evidence is the fact that some states already have this law in place and they are still trying to pass more restrictions.
Rep Brian Mast (R-Fl) is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Stop giving him money and “sympathy” for his combat wounds. He’s a liberal tool, and Clay Martin exposed a lot of his lies on a post last year
The last I heard this gun banning fool was calling for a ban on semi autos. If the republican party continues down this road, they won’t be getting my vote.
Would universal background checks have helped prevent the Parkland shooting? No…that nut bag passed his background check. It was the incompetence of the FBI, the school administrators, and the local sheriff’s dept. that allowed this tragedy to occur. Any protests outside their offices? Case closed.
It would not have stopped any of the mass shooting. They were all obtained legally.
Buckle up fellow NRA members. Better get out your wallet and contribute if you want to stop these anti gun nuts. Don’t forget your voter ID and vote early and often. Call your senators and congressmen and let them know how you feel. Be polite and direct, don’t sound like a madman. Try and recruit others to join the NRA and other gun rights organizations. These are the only weapons we have.
When the second amendment was written, these ‘gun control’ people were the Tories. They kissed a tyrants ass and opposed the will of the free people making this country. Today, they say ‘gun control’ but what they mean is ‘citizen control’ (because they do not investigate the gun, they investigate the owner). They support tyranny, just today it is the State because we got rid of the king.
We need to use legal civil disobedience to oppose this at every turn. Call congress once per week, it takes no effort. Call advertisers that fund the NRA and tell them you are boycotting them until they stop supporting the fake NRA lying gun grabbers. And every chance you get, scramble the firearms tracing program.
Trade guns. Gift guns. Always get new gun owners to actually have possession of a gun. People with a thing tend to vote to keep that thing.
If you won’t act to save your rights, then shut up and kiss the ring of tyranny, because you are a modern Tory.
This little punk is in the news again….I believe he is under age, so someone should whoop his dads ass!
How in the world do they expect to enforce a law like this? Impossible. What next? A convicted felon out on parole can’t steal a gun with first undergoing a background check? Complete stupidity.
Sure, this little shitweasel is full of it and himself, but let’s not pretend there isn’t a far bigger crisis affecting America – the Cheeto in Chief and his batshit crazy GOP sycophants are the largest existential threat to life in this country that we’ve seen since the Cold War. Get a grip on reality kids, if you think this manufactured bs about UBC’c being the first step to ‘”takin mah guns”, you’ve all been had. Keep gobbllin’ the Orange Man’s knob and the garbage it spews while you can. He and his treasonous toadys won’t be around much longer.
Not only are you an insulting ass Rodger, you also make yourself to be illogical and emotionally unstable.
You can’t logically defend your accusations and claims, but to be fair to you, I challenge you to list and specify each one for all our edification. Logically that is, no B.S., clearly outline and define your claims.
That should be entertaining.
I don’t have a lot of time to engage in pointless discourse but here are some tthings I found within about 5 minutes of looking. Apoogies if the formatting is a little bugged, As far as insulting asses go, I suggest you check your Dear Leader’s Twitter feed on any given morning for a heapin’ helpin’.
House Vote for Net Neutrality
For Against
Rep 2 234
Dem 177 6
Senate Vote for Net Neutrality
For Against
Rep 0 46
Dem 52 0
Money in Elections and Voting
Campaign Finance Disclosure Requirements
For Against
Rep 0 39
Dem 59 0
DISCLOSE Act
For Against
Rep 0 45
Dem 53 0
Backup Paper Ballots – Voting Record
For Against
Rep 20 170
Dem 228 0
Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act
For Against
Rep 8 38
Dem 51 3
Sets reasonable limits on the raising and spending of money by electoral candidates to influence elections (Reverse Citizens United)
For Against
Rep 0 42
Dem 54 0
The Economy/Jobs
Limits Interest Rates for Certain Federal Student Loans
For Against
Rep 0 46
Dem 46 6
Student Loan Affordability Act
For Against
Rep 0 51
Dem 45 1
Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Funding Amendment
For Against
Rep 1 41
Dem 54 0
End the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection
For Against
Rep 39 1
Dem 1 54
Kill Credit Default Swap Regulations
For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 18 36
Revokes tax credits for businesses that move jobs overseas
For Against
Rep 10 32
Dem 53 1
Disapproval of President’s Authority to Raise the Debt Limit
For Against
Rep 233 1
Dem 6 175
Disapproval of President’s Authority to Raise the Debt Limit
For Against
Rep 42 1
Dem 2 51
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
For Against
Rep 3 173
Dem 247 4
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
For Against
Rep 4 36
Dem 57 0
Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Bureau Act
For Against
Rep 4 39
Dem 55 2
American Jobs Act of 2011 – $50 billion for infrastructure projects
For Against
Rep 0 48
Dem 50 2
Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension
For Against
Rep 1 44
Dem 54 1
Reduces Funding for Food Stamps
For Against
Rep 33 13
Dem 0 52
Minimum Wage Fairness Act
For Against
Rep 1 41
Dem 53 1
Paycheck Fairness Act
For Against
Rep 0 40
Dem 58 1
“War on Terror”
Time Between Troop Deployments
For Against
Rep 6 43
Dem 50 1
Habeas Corpus for Detainees of the United States
For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 50 0
Habeas Review Amendment
For Against
Rep 3 50
Dem 45 1
Prohibits Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Trial
For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 39 12
Authorizes Further Detention After Trial During Wartime
For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 9 49
Prohibits Prosecution of Enemy Combatants in Civilian Courts
For Against
Rep 46 2
Dem 1 49
Repeal Indefinite Military Detention
For Against
Rep 15 214
Dem 176 16
Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention Amendment
For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1
Patriot Act Reauthorization
For Against
Rep 196 31
Dem 54 122
FISA Act Reauthorization of 2008
For Against
Rep 188 1
Dem 105 128
FISA Reauthorization of 2012
For Against
Rep 227 7
Dem 74 111
House Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison
For Against
Rep 2 228
Dem 172 21
Senate Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison
For Against
Rep 3 32
Dem 52 3
Prohibits the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Individuals Detained at Guantanamo
For Against
Rep 44 0
Dem 9 41
Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention
For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1
Civil Rights
Same Sex Marriage Resolution 2006
For Against
Rep 6 47
Dem 42 2
Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013
For Against
Rep 1 41
Dem 54 0
Exempts Religiously Affiliated Employers from the Prohibition on Employment Discrimination Based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity
For Against
Rep 41 3
Dem 2 52
Family Planning
Teen Pregnancy Education Amendment
For Against
Rep 4 50
Dem 44 1
Family Planning and Teen Pregnancy Prevention
For Against
Rep 3 51
Dem 44 1
Protect Women’s Health From Corporate Interference Act The ‘anti-Hobby Lobby’ bill.
For Against
Rep 3 42
Dem 53 1
Environment
Stop “the War on Coal” Act of 2012
For Against
Rep 214 13
Dem 19 162
EPA Science Advisory Board Reform Act of 2013
For Against
Rep 225 1
Dem 4 190
Prohibit the Social Cost of Carbon in Agency Determinations
For Against
Rep 218 2
Dem 4 186
Misc
Prohibit the Use of Funds to Carry Out the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
For Against
Rep 45 0
Dem 0 52
Prohibiting Federal Funding of National Public Radio
For Against
Rep 228 7
Dem 0 185
Allow employers to penalize employees that don’t submit genetic testing for health insurance (Committee vote)
For Against
Rep 22 0
Dem 0 17
Ah, but you have time to post senseless shit that doesn’t address the question put to you, I see.
Are you capable of following a conversation?
I asked you to logically defend your statement, that of this POTUS and his cronies being “the largest existential threat to life in this Country”.
That statement alone makes you HIGHLY suspect of being even slightly reasonable or logical.
Frankly, it’s the statement of someone suffering from TDS, it’s THAT stupid.
2 years of his Administration, and how many has he killed??
And which rights have you surrendered?
Pointless debate? Probably so, from your deranged point of view.
BTW, the average American has NO understanding of ‘Net Neutrality’, and what became of it was a damn good thing.
I’ll bet you have little or no clue as to many of those silly votes you posted.
I gave a quick rundown of bills that can and will have repercussions far beyond some silly internet argument that means absolutely nothing. As far as NN goes, if you think repealing it was a good idea I encourage you to go ahead and keep voting against your best interests. Have a nice day.
The left/commies have been trying to take ‘mah guns’ long before the ‘Cheeto in Chief’ as you so disrespectfully call Pres. Trump, took office. I would venture an opinion that YOU are the existential threat to life in the USA. The left’s goal is to remove all firearms from the public. Universal Background Checks will not solve the problem.
You are absolutely correct in that UBC’s will not solve anything. There is also a certain percentage of people in America that would love 100% civilian disarmament, but that is so unlikely to happen as to be laughable. I am as pro 2A as anyone you would meet – I think suppressors should be sold over the counter, for example, and there should be zero restrictions on the ownership of firearms of any kind for law-abiding, non-crazy citizens – including machine guns.
Reagan gutted the mental health system decades ago, and the fruits of his labor are now ripening.
BULLSHIT!!! The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 was a BIPARTISAN law signed by Reagan that RETURNED the funding to the States for Mental Health, as opposed to Carters FEDERAL facility funding that was the original law.
Reagan didn’t defund nor close a SINGLE mental health institution or facility, the individual states did.
In fact, Reagan worked with Democrats as California Governor to enact Mental health legislation there, and it was successful.
This is a Left Wing MYTH that only the truly uninformed or Never Trumpers push, and has been repeated by nearly EVERY MSM outlet.
It’s TOTAL bullshit propaganda.
Don’t blame Reagan for what the States did, this is matter of record, but ya gotta be willing to truly track it down to get the truth.
Another fine example of fake news, and Left Wing propaganda.
Well, you are half-right but still misinformed.
From a Penn State article in 2017:
The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (OBRA) is the statute that repealed President Carter’s Mental Health Systems Act which was supposed to continue federal funding for mental health programs. Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).
To be an ethical leader, one must attempt to gather as much knowledge as possible when making decisions, especially if one has the power to affect so many lives (Toffler, 2009). The mentally ill are amongst the most vulnerable populations in society because most are unable to make sound decisions regarding their own care due to their mental state. The consequences of Reagan’s social policy can be measured by the fact that today one-third of the homeless population are suffering from severe mental illness which puts a burden on police departments, hospitals and the penal system which lack the training and resources to deal with psychiatric emergencies (Honberg, 2015). Reagan’s unethical choice to end federal funding for mental health programs was driven by the desire to cut the budget. As a result, he did much more harm than good (PSY533, 2017).
Roger since your so obviously smarter than the rest of us! Name, quote me, any law that has ever prevented a crime! We will all wait for that proof!
Wat? Obviously laws do not prevent crime, they merely serve as a deterrent and/or punishment when someone is tried and convicted for breaking them. But we’re just a bunch of chuckleheads yakking it up on the internet and none of this means anything.
He’s indoctrinated, once again, I make a point and he comes up with opinion fluff with NO basis in fact.
NO mental health institution nor faciality was EVER closed due to the OBRA of 1981, put together by a bipartisan group of Repubs and Demmies and signed by Reagan.
I defy anyone to name those facilities.
Any one claiming it did is a liar of so woefully misinformed as to be unreliable in that area.
It truly is Left Wing Propaganda.
Why in God’s Name is Anyone listening to this Little Cockstain??? He Knows Nothing, His Little Punk Ass wasn’t even at the school when the Shooting Started, He was on his Little Bicycle and Almost Home when He heard about it and Turned His Nike Around and headed back to the school with His little camera and Found the First EnemyMedia Outlet and Became Their Little Poster Boy!!!!!! Fuck Him!!!!! Fuck Nancy and Fuck Every POS Anti-American Scumbag Politician Who Think They Can Pervert the 2nd Amendment Even More!!!!!!!
When ybe 2nd American Civil War Starts…. It Will NOT End Well for Them!!!!!!
MOLON LABE BITCHES 🖕🖕🇺🇸
Remember the Army of India in Bangladesh, and what was done to Pakistanis and Bangladeshis who murdered innocent Indian citizens? If you do not know let me tell you.
First, they were arrested. Next they were taken to a very public place for all to see. Finally, Indian Army soldiers carried out orders of execution by way of bayonets at the ends of their rifles plunging into the chests of these convicted persons who were pronounced as traitors, criminals and enemies of the States.
Hogg, Democrats, and people who are “Fellow Travelers” should be subjected to the bayonets to their chests until they stop breathing. Make their executions very public.
Tired of people calling them “gun laws”, call them what they are, “unlawful infringements”. A law has to be legal to be enforced. Spending money to restore a Constitutional right is a joke. Been watching the show closely for over 40 years, guns are on thier way out and the lines to turn them in have already started. The new mallineal generation has been well conditioned to hate guns and the owners of guns. It wont be long until owning a gun will be like smoking in a restaurant. Owning a gun will be the new racist card. Shame those who own guns. And we won’t do anything but comply..
The whole Hogg family wreaks of inside job! We’re supposed to believe Kevin Hogg, a former FBI agent and part-time school teacher, and Rebecca Boldrick a school teacher have the money to have multiple million dollar homes in Florida, the money to organize anti-gun rallies across the country, and jet set David Hogg around the nation to organize anti-gun protests. As usual, with factious individuals, scripted so called facts about an incident, we get conflicting backgrounds, work history, and more than one individual concrete possibility of who they may actually be. Kevin is said to have retired from the FBI in 2014, which would make him a part of the Obama Dictatorship’s FBI that wants Donald Trump out of office. All we know for sure is this stupid punk is handed scripts every time he talks and can not even follow it with any reasonable thought!
Sorry, but it just is not believable, the funds have to be coming from an outside entity.
Hogg- Wasn’t there, but seems to know a lot!! Listen up-Enough money can and does buy anything!! LosVagus comes to mind!! Also the march, that followed the Fl shooting ,had a permit d ated 2 months ,earlier. Said,35 mill was spent on this march, by who ? Whom ? some one very big wants these things to happen!! Get informed !!
OK, and the GOP passed repeal of Obamacare how many dozen times, yet it still remains lodged firmly in our nether orifices? Who has the Senate? Who is president?
Unless the GOP is REALLY stupid, this will be just so much political theater.
“Unless the GOP is REALLY stupid,”
You just answered your own question. On second thought, the GOP is not that stupid, it’s the Republican voters that put a man-baby with dementia in the White House.
true, but that african racist ahole is no longer soiling the oral office, just a lot of democrapo ahole parasite pervert mo fos..
Poor roger sufferes from trump derangement syndrome.. it makes me laugh how angry and out of control you libs are
What makes me laugh is that you think I am a liberal. And the only people suffering TDS are those that follow him. Mostly, I feel sorry for you.
Friends and family are excluded?
What is I consider any law abiding, Second Amendment supporting person my friend?
How could this possibly be enforced?
If they truly wanted to reduce gun violence they would concentrate on mental health issues and stemming the use of illegal drugs. These idiots are concentrating on an inanimate object and not the people that use them.
Mentally ill people will find a way to harm others without guns. Just look at these “progressive” countries with strict gun ownership laws. Brutal attacks on innocent and unarmed citizens happen everyday, but we don’t hear about them in our press because it doesn’t fit the liberal agenda to control honest and law abiding gun owners.
I just bought a gun on the internet from Cabelas with no background check! Of course, when I pick it up at my local FFL, I’ll have to fill out a 4473 and have a NICS check. These young gun-grabbers are nothing but tools of the left and will be tossed aside when no longer useful.
You do know that politicians are not beneath promoting themselves or their false causes there was a time when politicians cared about doing the right things for our country well that has changed its all about them and to hell with the tax payer that pays there wages and the 2nd amendment when I die and go to heaven I hope that there are no politicians there that truly would be peace in heaven
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with asking for background checks with private sales. Sure it takes an extra step and possibly an extra 10-20 dollars but the benefit and clear conscious that I sold a gun to someone sane and not a criminal makes sense. Instead of making excuses like oh this is a waste of tax payer dollars and just bullheadedly apprising any law for the sake of not moving the line use common sense. That’s why we get labeled as gun nuts.
Someone needs to take mini Hitler hogg out. He is truly cancer for America
If we are going to have this law, perhaps we should have universal background checks on users of cellular devices. The misuse of these devices in the US yields over 300,000 injuries and deaths annually.
Well, first of all, everything I have ever heard about Hogg tells me he is an “asshole.” What comes out of the hole in the rear end?…Foul-smelling gas. … does no good for anyone but the one spewing it.
1. A “Universal Background Check” already exists in many states when legally buying a gun from a gun dealer. It checks the purchaser only. … NOT others in the family.
2. It will NEVER be effective in the case of private sales. It relies on private LAW-ABIDING citizens making that extra effort to register the firearm transfer. … GOOD LUCK ON THAT! (Look at how many actually vote.)
3. The PROHIBITIVE COST for trying to track down private sales is extremely high. If the Democrat Party won’t spend 1/10 of 1% of the federal budget to “build The Wall,” do you really think they would properly fund this ludicrous effort?
Hogg should stick to what he knows –playing with dolls
Whats remarkable is hogwash has more B.S spew from his mouth than Pelosi
97% is more scripted Hoggwash
People die every day from opioid addiction 42 thousand in 2016 but they could care less than 0 because it doesn’t fit their agenda nor do the democrats want to build a wall to slow it down.
40k a year David Hoggwash?
Try 13,286
All shootings: Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive.
Dear Hogg and Congress, UP YOURS.
The previous comments pretty much captured all of the issues. 1) little hogg is NOT a survivor since he wasn’t actually at the scene of the shooting, that has been documented multiple times. 2) “universal” background checks would REQUIRE a national firearms registry – and we know that criminals will NOT comply, they don’t now and in fact cannot be compelled to do so by SCOTUS (and other levels of courts) as it violates their 5th Amendment rights. Hmm that makes them ‘above’ the law that us mere “Citizens” ARE required to comply with. Which brings us to 3) NONE of the proposed ‘laws’ are actually targeted to criminals, they only go after other wise law abiding Citizens. One would think that the antis are not interested in dealing with the actual perpetrators of crimes.
Just where does David Hogg get his information from? He stated that 97% of the public are in favor of back ground checks. I nor anyone I know of have ever been contacted for an opinion on back ground checks. Also, a thousand students get shoot every year coming and going to school? Some people will do anything to get their name and face in the headlines, and that includes lies.
They (Hogg and the rest) are being exploited by the anti-gun groups like Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety. That’s how the Liberal rolls when they are hell-bent on abridging citizen rights; appeal to emotion of the uninformed with half-truths, made-up facts, and faux statistics.
Just another law that’s a waste of time and paper .
And those kids on photo , so sad so sad . You have no idea what gun control is
and that’s because no one does . Just like crime control since the beginning of time
no answer has worked yet . Passing laws does not stop or deter it from happening .
This legislation is DOA. David Hogg was not even at the school when the incident took place. He gave 3 interviews, and each are different. One he said he was at home when he heard about it, and rode his bicycle at “breakneck” speed to the school with his camera to get pictures. Another one he said he was at the school, but that he rode home to get his camera and rode back to get pictures. And yet another one, he said he was not even in the same building where the incident took place, but in another building behind a closed door.
What kind of kid jumps on his bike to take pictures of a shooting at his school unless he was some kind of sadist or had prior knowledge of the event and wanted to start his career in activism. I’m sure all were warned not to enter the area for fear of another shooting, so he was so brave he ignored the warnings or knew there was no further risk, and where were his parents to allow him to enter an active crime scene? The ‘universal background check’ is simply a smoke screen for creating a registry of gun ownership. if street thug A sells a gun to street thug B, do you really think that they will do a background check? And if they, or anyone else, don’t, how will it be monitored and enforced, that’s impossible as it is done in private
My fear is that they will pass a law in the house mandating that all semi auto “assault style” weapons and their magazines be governed through the NFA similar to sbr or suppressor ownership. This would be a huge score for them while looking like a compromise because they could spout about not taking your guns and their favorite mantra of common sense gun control.
Coupled with a tragedy…and a squishy Senate, and a persuaded President. Depending on the mood of the country, universal checks would be easy, and if the right tragedy occurs, worse.
Hopefully not, but I can see the yellow brick road by which it could.
How many shooters were legal, or illegal, users of firearms in violation of law?
The most were illegal.
Another problem is twofold, emotional and irregular statistics which lump all firearm deaths into one tally.
Now, my thoughts are, even if you do not own or intend to own, file for a background check.
It hopefully won’t get through the Senate!
We are talking about the Republican Senate here – next to the democratic run house – they are the most worthless bunch of clowns on the planet. They will concede to the liberals in the hopes that a liberal journalist will like them.
Elections have consequences… vote Democrat and this crap will keep getting worse
Tell us Nancy how do you achieve compliance by gun sellers and buyers to voluntary submit to a NICS transfer of a firearm?
How does this stop the criminal transfer of firearms to Felons, the mentally deranged and prohibited persons ?
This is a law that only the law abiding will obey. Just like all laws- The law abiding obey and the criminal element does not. It does not make society safer or stop the exchange of guns to prohibited persons.
This law is intended to add gun owners to a national firearms registry that is not supposed to exist. It will not make society safer. But you all know that already. I just had to vent.
A political career in the making, they’ve received literaly millions of dollars from hollywood, I would guess they don’t want that to stop, I see they’ve dumped the chubby girl with shaved head.This all comes across to me like scripted BS its all about impressions and image and if you could just send $100 we could fight the evil Republicans, NRA, Fox news etc.
Speaking of impressions, I recently read a book of Diaries from the Oregon trail covering a period from the 1840’s to 1870’s where four hundred thousand people( pioneers) traveled it, one hundred thousand died along the trail, from indian attack? no, about 350 people died or were killed because of regional indians, about 400 or so indians were killed by pioneers or military, a lot of the deaths were caused by accidents, most deaths were caused by Typhoid, Cholera, listeria, but that would’nt make much of a book or movie would it?
And so it begins. It easier to go after an inanimate object instead of mentally ill, psychopath, murderer, or criminal.
In the Liberal’s American dystopia there are no criminals, only crime.
Kiss it goodby, Hoggwash. Your hopes for a law will be shredded in the Senate…