The First 9mm: Luger P.08 Pistol

in Authors, Chris Mace, Historical Guns

One of the most iconic handguns in the world is the P.08 Luger Pistol. It is the quintessential German sidearm that saw heavy use in both world wars. Of all of the weapons of the era, it remains one of the most sought after, as one of the world’s first successful semi-auto pistols. It also was the first handgun chambered in arguably the most popular handgun caliber in the world: 9mm Parabellum.

The First 9mm: Luger P.08 Pistol

A World War I Luger

The Luger pistol was patented around the turn of the last century. Mr. Luger previously designed and tested the Borchardt pistol. The Luger was a modification of that design. The main modification was relocating the main spring inside the grip housing. Originally it was chambered in a .30 Luger(7.65 Parabellum), and some were sold in this caliber. The Luger was designed to be accurate and so it was machined with tight tolerances to ensure this.

The German Army was interested but it wanted another caliber instead. This new caliber was the 9mm Parabellum. The Luger was the first firearm chambered in this 9mm, which is why 9mm is sometimes referred to as 9mm Luger. The Imperial German Army adopted the Luger as the P.08. It was intended to replace two models of Reichsrevolvers then in service. However, those continued to serve through World War I alongside the P.08 as wartime demands for sidearms outpaced Luger production.

The P.08 wasn’t perfect and it had some reliability problems in the nasty conditions of trench warfare. This was because of its tightly toleranced, machined internals. While good for accuracy, these tightly fitted parts didn’t do very well in the horrid conditions of the trenches of WWI. Because it used all machined parts, it was also expensive to produce. Granted, stamped parts didn’t really become a thing until the next world war. The P.08 was officially replaced by the P.38 in 1938. However, the Luger stayed in service. It was something of a status symbol within the German armed forces at the time and was seen regularly with German units. In fact, the Germans produced Lugers through most of World War II as well, until 1945. This is pretty remarkable considering the amount of work required to produce one. It was also a coveted prize to capture by Allied soldiers.

The First 9mm: Luger P.08 Pistol

The toggle action of the Luger, opened.

The Luger uses a very unique toggle action, as opposed to the slide we’ve become accustomed to seeing. Upon firing, the whole top end of the pistol, barrel and all, moves rearward a small amount to unlock the action. Then the toggle action hinges in the middle while extracting the spent case. Once it reaches the limit of its travel, it begins moving forward with the bolt portion of the toggle chambering the next round. As the toggle closes, the top end moves forward again to lock the action.

Standard magazines for the P.08 held 8 rounds. They had a sort of button on the side, which is used to compress the spring and follower when loading, which will be familiar to you if you have one of the Ruger .22 pistols. The slot this piece rides in also allows for a quick peek at how many rounds are left in the magazine. Most Luger magazines have a wooden floorplate, though there were some metal ones used as well. The floorplate has two circular ends that stick out either side of the magazine. Their purpose is to aid the shooter in removing the magazine, by giving them something to grab hold of. Typically, the magazine is also marked with a serial number that at one point matched the pistol it was issued with. But with 100 years of time, and two world wars, most magazines are no longer “matching” the Luger they are with anymore.

The First 9mm: Luger P.08 Pistol

The Luger magazine is loaded using the tab on the side, very similar to Ruger .22 pistol magazines.

Lugers also have a peculiar feature that was unique to pistols of that era: the holster-stock. The early Luger holsters were wood and intended to double as a detachable stock. The idea was that it would enable the shooter to accurately engage targets at a greater distance than a “stockless” handgun could. As such P.08s have a lug on the back of the grip where the stock would mount. Interestingly enough, I have read some accounts of these sorts of “stocked handguns” actually seeing some use in WWI. C96 “Broomhandle” Mausers and stocked Lugers were apparently fairly popular with German “Strosstruppen” (translated Storm Troops, but not to be confused with the Nazi political elements that used the same name 15 years later) assault troops. This stands to reason, given that submachine guns weren’t invented until the very end of the war. So naturally, a compact, rapid-firing weapon—at least in comparison to the bolt action rifles then in service—would be popular with them. Some of these old stocked handgun combinations were specifically exempted from SBR regulations, so it is possible to try this idea out. Just make sure you do some research first to make sure you stay legal.

The First 9mm: Luger P.08 Pistol

The lug on the back of the grip is where the “holster-stock” mounted when it was in use.

The original 9mm load used a truncated cone bullet. It was used into the opening days of the First World War. It was effective but it was found to exacerbate the P.08’s reliability issues in the field. So a new bullet was developed. A round-nosed bullet was picked this time and it improved the Luger’s reliability. This became the generic 115gr FMJ 9mm load that we have grown accustomed to. On the topic of ammunition, I’ll give the same advice I always do for something of this vintage. When looking for ammo to shoot through your Luger, keep in mind that these pistols are 100 years old. There is no reason to try and push it. Stick to mild ammo and handloads. There are some fairly “warm” factory FMJ loads in 9mm, as is a lot of the military ammunition loaded through the years, so make sure you know the ammo you want to shoot through your P.08 before you do so. Personally, I stick to 115-grain FMJs, though I have considered trying to duplicate the original truncated cone bullet load.

Artillery Lugers were one of the most well-known variants of Lugers produced. There were some different models of this type. Generally speaking, they featured a longer barrel, 8″ in most cases, and more elaborate sights which were graduated to some rather optimistic ranges. These, with their “holster-stocks,” were intended to be essentially a PDW for artillery crews. They also developed a “snail-drum magazine” which held 32 rounds for some extra firepower. The snail drum magazines were not particularly reliable and were not issued in large numbers.

The manual of arms for the P.08 is pretty odd by today’s standards, though that’s typical for handguns of that era. The toggle action it uses accounts for some of this. Once you get used to it, it’s not particularly difficult to operate. The safety lever is also kind of awkward. The grip angle is a bit steeper than a lot of handguns. In spite of this, the Luger points very well. The sights are very small in comparison to modern handguns, but typical of handguns of that time.

The First 9mm: Luger P.08 Pistol

Various .22 clones of the P.08 have been produced through the years, some better than others. This one was made by Erma in Germany.

If you want a P.08 but can’t afford the price tag of an original, you’re not completely out of luck. Through the years, there have been some .22lr caliber Luger clones produced. These can usually be had for a fraction of the cost of a real P.08. And with .22lr almost back to where it was before the last big run on ammo, you can shoot it to your heart’s content–affordably. This particular clone was made by Erma, originally produced in Germany. There were other similar models from other manufacturers as well. As you can see, it’s pretty close to an actual P.08 in feel and appearance. About the only thing it’s missing is the lug for the stock.

The First 9mm: Luger P.08 Pistol

The year of manufacture and the arsenal markings.

This particular Luger was produced in 1917 at Erfurt arsenal. It is a standard model Luger. It does not have the “double date” or other markings that typically signify issue in both World Wars, so it is likely just a First World War-issued pistol. I used Winchester 115gr FMJ ammunition. Recoil is pretty mild shooting a Luger. Unfortunately, my particular P.08 was far enough off point of aim to make trying to group at 25 yards a rather frustrating endeavor, so I ended up doing my shooting at 10 yards instead. Point of aim issues notwithstanding, I was getting nice little 1 ½” groups at 10 yards offhand, with some of those almost touching. All in all, not too bad for a 101 year old handgun.

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About the author: Christopher Mace Christopher Mace enlisted in the US Army as an Infantryman in 2001. He served in the 82nd & 101st Airborne Divisions, with four deployments to Afghanistan & Iraq. Chris started hobby gunsmithing in 2005. After completing his service in 2010, he earned AAS degrees in Machining as well as Welding & Fabrication, and a Gunsmithing Technician Certificate from Trinidad State Junior College. Chris has taken several armorers courses on different firearms, and has built several different types of firearms. He has been collecting & shooting military firearms, old and new since he was 18. Chris enjoys repairing, customizing, building & assembling firearms, as well as different disciplines of competition shooting.

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  • Don Helgeson June 8, 2020, 3:03 pm

    At Lane Tech High in 1952 one of our ROTC Army instructors included Major Baty who was an artillery battery commander in WW-2.

    He described an action in Belgium when his lead vehicle topped a high bluff and saw a German Regiment of Horse artillery strung out in the valley below.

    The first truck swung around and opened up with their 105 without unhitching it.
    Soon Capt Baty arrived in his jeep and opened fire with the post mounted M2 50 Cal. other 105’s joined in shortly and proceed to decimate the whole Artillery Regiment which never got a chance to return fire.

    Baty said that it was terrible watching all the horses & men being killed but knew if the situating was reversed they could have been the victims.

    While serving in the occupation of Germany he manager to amass a remarkable collation
    of firearms that included a 45 Cal Luger.

    I held that 45 cal Luger at a visit to his home in Palatine.

    Years later when I would mention I was derided
    “NO 45 CALIBER WAS EVER MADE!” they would shout!”

    Years later The Rifleman published a story vindicating my tale.

    Don Helgeson,
    ex Sgt Maj. The Lane Regiment ROTC

  • Brian Onuscheck April 23, 2019, 4:44 pm

    My 1/2 brother has a Kurtz or short one of these his grandfather captured from a German officer in WWII. He had it; along with matching holster and mag, and M1 Garand he kept in his closet and told no one about.
    The family found them while cleaning out his house after he died.

  • John Bibb April 23, 2019, 3:09 am

    ***
    Supposedly two Lugers in .45 acp were built and submitted for testing during the time that the 1911 and a couple of other pistols were tested for the “new” Army pistol. John Browning’s design won.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  • Tom Walund April 22, 2019, 10:29 pm

    Bought an Erma 22 at a pawn shop about 15 yrs ago. Took it home and was checking the cycling with a loaded clip. When I dropped the action it fired and put a hole in my house. needless to say it was returned to the pawn shop forthwith. I have a 1928 commercial model in 35 Luger. Its a sweet shooter although the ammo is expensive.

    • Scott A Williams February 29, 2020, 1:14 am

      What are you doing running ammo in a pistol in side the house? I never heard of a 35 Luger?Do you mean 30 Luger?

  • wayne April 22, 2019, 11:07 am

    With all the following of the Luger, why was there not one produced in the states in the last half century. With the equipment available now a nearly perfect gun could be produced. I have always wanted a shooter but didn’t want to pay a collectors price.

    • Lakeman 45 April 22, 2019, 3:18 pm

      Mauser tried bringing the Luger back in the 1970’s which was imported by several different companies, and they just did’t sell.

      You can buy an original shooter grade Luger cheaper than a new one of any quality could be manufactured for today.

  • Lakeman45 April 22, 2019, 10:51 am

    Rock Island Luger? Rock Island did make the holsters for the Model 1900 Lugers tested by the U.S. Military beginning in 1901, but they never made a Luger of any kind. Patent infringement?

    The 1000 Model 1900 Lugers tested by the U.S. military were purchased from DWM in Germany.

  • Gary A. May April 22, 2019, 10:45 am

    For many years I collected Lugers. All kinds of Lugers. I purchased a mint crisp Navy Luger in the 70’s for $ 125.00. Sold the same Luger for $ 10,000 in the 90’s. I had 55 pistols ( Lugers ) at one time in the collection. 8 years ago I became bored ( no pun intended ) and sold the guns off at different stages of my life. I am really sorry I done that !!!!! But life goes on.

  • Lakeman45 April 22, 2019, 10:42 am

    The Luger was never chambered in .30 Mauser. It was originally chambered in 7.65mm commonly known as “.30 Luger”. The pistols first tested by the U.S. Military were in .30 Luger caliber.

  • elton thrun April 22, 2019, 10:35 am

    Erma made a fine replica, I need parts?

  • Henry Ottinger April 22, 2019, 10:17 am

    The wooden mag floorplates were basically from Lugers of the early 30’s or before. The metal ones were later. Some mismatched Lugers can give problems due to hand fitting

  • Lakeman45 April 22, 2019, 9:28 am

    The designation P.08 indicates the 4″ Luger adopted by the German army in 1908, Pistole 08, but it was not the first 9mm. The German Navy adopted the Luger in a 6″ barrel in 9mm caliber in 1904, designated the P.04.

    The U.S. military ordered 50 9mm Lugers in 1903 for testing.

    The “Artillery” Luger with the 8″ barrel was designated the LP.08, for Lange Pistole 08.

    • Jake April 22, 2019, 10:32 am

      I am unsure of what caliber was purchased by the Army but the pistols were sold in the US in .30 Mauser, the same as the C96 used. Tom Horn stole one from the jail he escaped from but could not figure out how to work it in the minute or two he had before being captured again. That was somewhere around 1900 out West, perhaps Wyoming?
      Rock Island Arsenal made Luger pistols for a demonstration program to test the design around this same time. Extremely valuable and highly prized, the Rock Island “Lugers”also had US marked holsters and kit.
      In pistol trials that resulted in the 1911, Luger also submitted pistols in .45acp. One sold at auction for One Million Dollars. It has been recently fired as well and is a tack driver.

  • Wil Ferch April 22, 2019, 8:51 am

    I believe the “standard” FMJ round nose bullet that was ultimately developed, ….. was 124 grain, not 115 grain…….

    • jake April 22, 2019, 10:38 am

      I am pretty sure the Germans used a 125 grain round nose in WW2.

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