Colorado congressional hopeful Levi Tilleman believes pepper spray could be an effective deterrent to mass murderers.
Levi Tilleman doesn’t like guns. The Colorado congressional candidate’s stance on firearms is a cornucopia of anti-gun daydreams: an “assault weapon” ban, a 10-day waiting period, a safe storage requirement, and a magazine ban all make the list.
When comparing himself to his competition in Colorado’s Sixth Congressional District, Tilleman proudly points out that he doesn’t own a gun.
All of this makes the video below that much more satisfying.
Tilleman proposes that instead of allowing teachers to arm themselves, schools (funded by American taxpayers) should arm every teacher with a can of pepper spray. Teachers shouldn’t carry the pepper spray on their person, of course, but can instead store it in a “break glass in case of emergency cabinet.”
To demonstrate the effectiveness of his solution, Tilleman allowed himself to be sprayed in the face.
“This will stop anyone in their tracks,” he says in the video. “It’s incredibly painful. And now I can’t see anything. It’s just unbearable. It’s like lava in your eyes.”
“I would say, without a doubt, it was one of the most painful things I’ve ever experienced in my entire life,” he later told the Denver Post. “Nothing compares to this.”
Commenters underneath the Facebook video pointed out that Tilleman appears to retain his ability to move and speak even after being sprayed.
On the contrary, Tilleman’s team counters, the candidate was “completely incapacitated.”
“The scene where Levi says he still can’t see anything was about 40 minutes after the initial shot,” they reply on Facebook. “He was completely incapacitated. He couldn’t even sit down without assistance — and he had a team and supplies to help him wash off the pepper spray… It’s extremely effective!”
That’s unlikely. In a real active shooter situation, pepper spray would be only “marginally effective,” Joe Eaton, director of FASTER Saves Lives told us via email. Eaton’s program trains teachers to carry firearms in schools and use them in an emergency.
“[This is] another example of someone who has not taken even the slightest amount of time to study and try to understand these events,” he said. “Schools relying totally on a ‘less-then-lethal’ solution to a lethal threat are negligent and are endangering their students and staff.”
“There is no ‘continuum of force’ in schools like there is for law enforcement,” he continued. “In a school there is either a lethal threat or a non-lethal threat… If the threat is a non-lethal threat, then the schools already (should) have policy and procedures in place to deal with this situation and would continue to deal with it exactly the same way they do today even after they have included firearms as a part of their safety plan.”
“Ask this knucklehead if he is also planning to ask the police to forego firearms in a lethal threat situation.”
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It’s possible he would. Tilleman told the Denver Post that this was the best solution to school massacres he and his team had been able to develop.
“The solutions that are being offered by both Democrats and Republicans aren’t working,” he said. “That’s why I sat down with my team and we thought through ways that we could get around the talking points that have been mouthed by party apparatchik for decades. This was the best solution that we could come up with.”
The efficacy of pepper spray against an armed assailant isn’t the only false claim that appears in Tilleman’s ad. Aurora school board member Kevin Cox’s assertion at the video’s beginning is also untrue. The Washington Post first reported that more children have been killed in schools this year than service members killed in combat. Upon further research, however, they have retracted that claim (though they haven’t changed their headline).
Tilleman is the underdog in Colorado’s Sixth Congressional District primary race against Democratic candidate Jason Crow. He faces a steep fundraising disadvantage and the party has reportedly decided to back Crow. If he manages to pull off the upset, however, the race against Republican incumbent Mike Coffman is expected to be close.
Wow. This guy gives dumb ass new meaning. I would not want him to represent me.Whats his next stunt. Throwing himself in front of a speeding train?
You know, if this fool had used carburetor cleaner I might have bought his theory.
haha. What a fkn dumb ass! While you are trying to get close enough to spray someone, you and your friends are getting riddled. What does this idiot think he just accomplished?
Although this future politician wanna be is trying to prove his anti gun stance with this exhibition. He fails to understand, you can not fight off a gun battle with simple things like pepper spray. Like other politicians in NY and FL, they were asking for a ruling to give every kid in schools today a ROCK to carry with them or pick them up at the beginning of each class. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE….???? My kid is not going to carry a ROCK, to stand in front of gun fire to throw a ROCK at the gunman just to Piss him off and kill my kid. This ISN’T a bible story like David and Goliath. Yeah David has a rock,BUT Goliath DIDN’T have a gun. Your Morons. You have to think more like some schools in Florida. Bullet proof entrance glass with double doors and metal detected before the doors. ALL entrance snd exit doors and windows with metal detectors and security buzz ins after identification. Things like that…NOT jepardizing our children making and putting them in harms way. Putting them in charge of their own safety. THAT’S THE SCHOOL’s, POLICE’s job to protect and serve.
Lord, we DO NOT NEED anymore Idiots running for office. End of story.
Who will be the hero to charge the shooter with a can of pepper spray. It surely won’t be this politician. you mean to tell me someone is going to be brave enough to charge a person shooting an assault rifle at you. You have to get very close to spray the shooter. Even if the shooter has a hand gun this is a stupid idea. They need to get their asses back to the drawing board and come up with a fail proof action plan to prevent these school shootings. If it all fail put gun safe with finger scan access with a loaded hand gun inside in every class room and train the teachers with gun training. They keep saying that they are there to teach. Well if a shooter get in your school and start shooting you and your students you will have a serious choice to make. Either you defend yourself and your students or you make the ultimate sacrifice.
I have seen people drenched with pepper spray continue their assault and resistance to arrest, even with the pepper spray literally dripping off their nose. It had absolutely no effect on them. This stuff does NOT work on everyone. Betting your life, or the life of the school kids in your charge, with pepper spray against someone with a firearm is a fool’s bet. It was funny, though, watching this idiot get sprayed.
Dumd a—, 1- not an immediate deterrent as seen in video, he just sat and let his friend spray him in the eyes. 2 – I’m quite sure a school shooting terrorist will allow someone to spray him in the face. 3 – range and accuracy of pepper spray is 3-10 feet. Only designed for close encounters – “hold still shooter, let me closer”.
I believe in this man’s solution to school shootings…I believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Peter Pan, the boogeyman, the tooth fairy, Obamacare, Professional Wrestling, business ethics, the stock market, the state lottery…you name it. If you dig a hole deep enough, you will always find someone to jump into it.
You gotta love it when a liberal does to himself what most conservatives would like to do to them.
Now someone needs to hand him a 1911 and let him demonstrate that.
So . . . wouldn’t a murderer simply need to wear safety goggles?
Will they ban safety goggles next to stop that from happening?
PLEASE don’t give them more ideas!
Levi could not see even before he got sprayed. He actually has qualities that would make him fit right in with other Congresspersons, but we can pray he does not get elected. I used to think many years ago that Colorado was a pro-gun state, but it sure has changed and law abiding gun owners should be helping to get out the vote – against the blind guy.
I usually try to offer constructive comments but this guy makes it hard. It is so obvious that his agenda is NOT the safety of anyone but grandstanding for political reasons. If there was any indication that he has taken the time to actually educate himself on the the realities of whether pepper spray can be accurately and effectively used in the situations that he proposes he might have credibility I might consider him ignorant instead of stupid.
Get out of Colorado! Go back to California. And take your stupid ideas with you.
BTW… giving teachers guns, at least in some schools, would be akin to giving prison guards weapons. That’s a no-go because the inmates… er, students could take them away and use them on each other.
Bet you a crisp dollar this moron\’s think tank \”team\” involves a bong being passed around. \”Hey, what about pepper spray, maaaaan??\”Colorado is being inundated with so many idiot Commiefornians as they jump their sinking ship that it\’s absolutely amazing that 6\’s seat is still held by a republican. You would think that if you left a state because it sucks that you wouldn\’t bring with the failed politics that made it suck but no.It\’s going to be hard pulling up stakes but I foresee a move to Wyoming in my future.
Something tells me he’s used to taking loads to the face.
WOW…!,, OK… !,,,,,so if some maniac is chasing me with a gun, and I can’t fire back because all I have is a little can of pepper spray,
I just wait for him to get within 5 or 8 feet from me and try to spray him in his eyes,,, Right…?,,,, ? After he’s pumped several bullets into me… ?
What a complete tool, it was however very exhilarating and satisfying to see the idiot pepper sprayed.
This idiot in Congress will cost more lives than a psychopath school shooter.
This nit-wit was either on something or forgot to take his meds that day … Either way he needs to keep his day job as his political future looks rather dim…..
You don’t bring pepper spray to a gun fight. You will very likely lose if you do.
As a former federal law enforcement officer I have a bit of experience with type of thing. The OC spray we used was ineffective against a deadly threat and that was about 3 times as potent as anything they would be placing in a school next to the fire extinguisher.
BaaaaaaHahahahahaha, BaaaaaHahahahahahaha!
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha funny shit. So what happens if it’s windy or there’s a fan or ac blowing back at ya. It blows me away that people can in Colorado really want to turn it to California. I live in California for one reason, a great job on a horse ranch. This place is a fucking joke. So is Colorado now. Liberal ideals are the plague that will slowly but surely be the death if America. I’m from Idaho where people still understand family values, hard work and sacrifice. The second amendment is the fabric that created this once beautiful country. With out it we are just another puppet for the world to play with. It’s disgusting that people would rather blame guns than actually teaching they’re punk ass kids the word no and and the difference between right and wrong. We used to be a brave strong country now we the world’s laundry basket/ dumpster. It’s time to stop talking about it and get off of our ass’s and take our country back. We don’t have very much time before it’s too late! . Vote, protest and most of all never ever back down to these left wing physco paths. Fuck em
What an idiot. Wonder if this libtard consulted an opthamologist first about the wisdom of pulling such a stunt? He may be blind from glaucoma in several years….what a shame….boooo…..hoooo. Stupid demoncrat libturd.
Perhaps someone should ask this proponent of pepper spray if he knows about DF Brother’s Sportscenter in Brooklyn, New York, where a would be robber sprayed a clerk in an attempt to steal handguns. Hint: the robber was shot *AFTER* he sprayed the clerk with pepper spray.
Being from Colorado, we see too many of these, ahem, self proclaimed geniuses. So let’s play this scenario out, a former student enters a classroom with a firearm. the teacher skillfully makes her way to the glass case, breaks the glass, extracts the pepper spray and then precisely hits the agitated gunman square in the eyes from across the classroom, saving all of the students from death and injury……………….. yeah right, and we’ll all hang our heads at her funeral.
I drive all over the country for a living, and a number of states have illuminated signs with driving statistics. According to those signs, by the end of March nearly 10 times as many kids died from texting and driving….. in Ohio alone. Kids would kill fewer of their peers with cars, learn more in class, experience less cyber bullying, view each other as more human and develop better socialization skills if we banned cellphones.
Just saying.
Yeah right! Let’s see how the idget fares when a shooter is standing over 50 feet (maybe even 30-40) away and the spray doesn’t reach said shooter!! Was funny watching a snowflake burn though!
Not impressed. Pepper spray has its place. So does a firearm.
so…all this does is make it easier for the school to get shot up. Very entertaining though I must say!
Of course the perp is going to stand 3ft away, perfectly still while you spray him for several seconds. An even blind how does this stop him from firing?
“Tilleman told the Denver Post that this was the best solution to school massacres he and his team had been able to develop.”
LOL, that’s the best? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. How much did this “solution” cost taxpayers…a few million dollars to shoot the video? (Gotta have 5-star catering, right?) And what exactly did he and his team “develop” – an idea to spray someone in the face with mace and film it?
I guess he deserves an Oscar + Nobel Peace Prize now.
I’m sure you’ve already patted yourself on the back Tilleman…you get a gold star and participation trophy.
STOP calling it “less than lethal.
The correct term is “LESS LETHAL” All options are lethal if misused.
The only thing worse is morons calling it “Less THEN lethal.
Please flood this fools youtube page with (counter) comments.
The person who sprayed the pepper spray on him was only 2 or 3 feet away. How do you get that close to person shooting an ASSAULT rifle? I like two shots to the chest followed by one to the head from a safe distance behind cover.
Any of the sprays, be it pepper spray or oc spray they affect people differently. After being sprayed in the face at Federal Law Enforcement training center, I was able to see, talk and react to an attack by a training officer. So, as everyone is pointing out “He speaketh BS.
Apparently pepper spray is good to help stop ASSHOLE POLITICIANS!
I hope the people in this fella’s district are smart enough to vote for a Tea Party candidate if one is available and say NO to this very strange politician who strikes me as a Warren Sanders type .
He’s a idiot. He should go live with obama
“That’s unlikely. In a real active shooter situation, pepper spray would be only “marginally effective,” Joe Eaton, director of FASTER Saves Lives told us via email”.
I don’t see what the problem is. Just ask the shooter to stop for a moment, then walk up to him and give him a good spray in the face. Tell him it’s a new body spray, or something, and that way he won’t shoot you before you get close enough.
I went into the army in 1965, just before Vietnam got really going in the following year. The unit I was with was a Combat Engineer outfit, and we knew it was a matter of time before we were called into the fray. But we prepared ourselves, as best we could, with month after month of training. We were in the swamps behind Ft. Dix and Maguire Air Force Base. We played war games using smoke, blank rounds, and CS Tear Gas.
Some of us got to play the role of “Aggressor.” I was one of them, and we ambushed when we could, using booby-traps and CS. We walked around with canisters of it and used so much that when the cloud wafted off-base, people called the police from nearby towns.
But we were having fun with it. We would toss a grenade into a tent while the guys were sleeping. Yes, this was roughhousing, grab-ass fun, but we also adapted to the gas. It becomes less potent after time. We could walk through clouds of it with impunity. And, we learned that we could still function. (Later we learned that the VC found a rag covered in lemon juice would neutralize the effects as the air was filtered through).
So, while tear gas may work, it is limited. A taser does not work on angry people either. There is no “one size fits all” type of non-violent weapon.
When you see somebody pulling out taser prongs and still coming at you, you don’t have a chance to experiment to see if you can minimally stop him. You must be sure because, by the time those prongs are out, he is angry enough to shove it up your nose, or worse.
the numbnut jerk stood there and let them spray a good 3-4 second blast. a real armed thug is not going to stand there , he will be moving and firing indescrimanently if he is attacked with sprays.
My suggestion is that if there is ever (hopefully never) an active shooter incident in this idiot’s community to send him in with pepper spray. In fact, send his whole team with him. Let’s see if his strategy works without placing more innocent lives at risk. My professional experience as a juvenile probation officer for twenty three years, (in addition to ten years in private practice as a mental health professional.) assigned to supervise violent person-to-person offenders, is that this tactic is foolhardy, totally ineffective and dangerous. In most school shootings the perpetrator has been another adolescent. I doubt that this man has ever witnessed the out of control behavior of anyone (especially a teenager.) with an emotional disturbance or being under the influence of a drug such as methamphetamine.
LOL! I love your idea!
What do y’all expect from a state that makes it legal to get looped on Cannabis and still drive because they have no way to measure how high you are
Stupidity of leftist loons knows no bounds”
This nut-job should shoot himself in the face with an AR so people would understand what real guns do and why we need real security in schools not brain dead ideas like this. Then all Left Wing Wackos should follow his lead and repeat the demonstration and encourage all fellow Dim-o-crats to do the same. Things would get better real fast in this country.
Let’s try this another way. Mr. Tillman with his pepper spray and someone with simunition. Now that would be a true eye opener for Mr. Tillman. Someone with a pistol at say 15′ and Mr. Tillman with his pepper spray (range of about 6 to 10 feet). Me thinks Mr. Tillman will lose
LOL, I made a negative comment about this guys actions on face book and He blocked Me, got to love the Nazicrats and liberals. It’s obvious that tilleman as some mental issues, I’m glad he wasn’t demonstrating how unsafe handguns are by sticking one to his head and squeezing the trigger, they’d be cleaning up his grey matter instead of washing his face.
I don’t think that there would be any “Gray matter ” to clean up. This video proves it
Make sure EVERYONE goes out places a SCATHING COMMENT on that MORONS YouTube video!
A can of wasp spray does the same thing but shoots up to 27 feet, vice 5 feet. Idiots, what teacher is going to run up against a person with a gun with a can of pepper spray?
That Communist Progressive Liberal POS Dirt Bag needs to taken out and shot rather the pepper sprayed, because if it THAT Stupid it needs to be put out of its misery!
NO PEPPER, SPRAY DOES NOT WORK ON DRUGGED UP CRIMINALS!
THERE ARE ENDLESS YOUTUBE VIDEOS WERE PEPPER SPRAY AND THE TASER DOES NOT WORK AND WILL NOT WORK!
This IS WHY Democrats need to removed from ALL Political Offices!
Yeah, this pepper spray might be effective on unruly students, employees or ex-husbands, but NOT on a gunman standing 20 or more feet away. Get real man….
This guy is apparently suffering from a severe case of “HUYA”! Apparently, it’s been parked there for some time!
Besides, we don’t need any more morons in Congress! We’re good there!
It is hard to believe this guy actually thinks pepper spray would be the solution! God!! What are we raising!?
Let’s see here. A gunman opens the door to a classroom which is, considering the size of a classroom, about 15 to 20 feet from the teacher. In the time it takes the teacher to realizes the situation and reach for their can of pepper spray which is quit likely in their desk drawer (if smart), the gunman has already taken action. Now comes the interesting part. How accurate is the teacher with the pepper spray from 15 to 20 feet away? Did the teacher survive to get to the spray? Get real. Pepper spray is probably more designed for one on one action and not against a person with a gun. Where do these damn Democrats come up with this stuff. Well he WAS an Obama lover!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!! He’s running for office in Colorado and he’s concerned about children? I think he needs to demonstrate this product twice daily so that we can all see how effective it is, would it be possible for him to get other politicians in Colorado to also demonstrate this product?
Yeah, let’s see this guy walk up to someone with a gun shooting everyone and him spraying this pepper spray in the shooter’s eyes… Where do these guy come from? Be sure you give your personal security team the pepper spray and see how long they stay with you….
What a fucking idiot!
LOL, Just goes to show that it is NOT a real good def tool, But it is better than nothing. And MORE laws will not do anything but HURT honest gun owners and the others don’t care about the law.
What a moron! Did he consider that the gunman will be even more angry after being pepper sprayed? More than likely, the psychopath will start shooting wildly and kill even more people.
WHY IS IT THAT ON AN ALMOST DAILY SITUATION A LEGALLY ARMED CTIZEN SAVES A COP OR HIGHWAY PATROLMAN FIGHTING FOR THEIR LIFE AGAINST AN ASSAILANT , OR WOMEN BEING HACKED WITH AN AX IS SAVED BY A LEGALLY ARMED CITIZEN THAT IT IS ONLY GIVEN MENTIONED DEEP IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND THEN ONLY ONCE AS OPPOSED TO THE INCESSENT RANT AGAINST GUNS IN GENERAL. YOU WILL NEVER SEE THIS MENTIONED EVEN ONCE ON CNN or other news programs.
LOL so tell me how you are going to get close enough to the gunman to spray him!!
Never bring pepper spray to a gunfight.
I, am so worried about the Gene Pool that is currently available in the USA … His Parents should have been fined.
Hey Tillman, get sprayed with your eyes open! Having been sprayed multiple times, Tased and stunned, Pepper Spray would be my last choice to repeat being done to me, it sucks. If someone is dumb enough to try and approach a person on a shooting spree, they are likely dead before they would be in range. Every pepper spray manufacture will claim that their product is ‘NOT 100% EFFECTIVE’. Unfortunately BULLETS are far more effective than a LESS THAN LETHAL option would be. There is a reason trainers of pepper spray will tell trainees, ‘spray aggressor than move away from where you are’, an aggressor intent on creating harm will charge the last position they saw you in. If I’m close enough to be sprayed, I’m close enough to discharge a firearm without the need of using the sights. I can effectively stay in the fight, add a pistol to the equation and I can shoot a human size target with great effectiveness. NOW, add someone who’s mental issues are so severe they believe this is the only way they will be heard. They won’t stop, until their heart stops beating.
The gentleman would never make it in Hollywood. Talk about over acting!
Just more proof of the stupidity of liberals and their hairbrained moronic ideas.
One thing the politicians refuse to acknowledge is the fact that all of these with the exception of Newtown Ct the shooters entered the buildings unimpeded. Security first then defense, let the teachers with CCW permits decide if they want to carry while in school working forcing a teacher to be armed won’t work because some don’t want the responsibility, it should be a choice. Except for extremely deranged individuals an angry student would take the chance on who is armed and who isn’t. The deranged individual is a whole other subject.
Thanks for the example you can’t fix stupid. And now you want people to vote you into office ?
We should all move somewhere safe like Kosovo or the jungles of Colombia or better yet North Korea. These crazy Americans have PEPPER SPRAY!!!!!
All of that stupid in a position of power is what got this nation where we are now! Name calling and pointing the glaring fact that these people are stupid to a level that is unprecedented isn’t enough! Run for office! Elect people who reflect OUR standards! Get involved politically! Research, learn and vote! Blah blah blah and nanner nanner nanner is what we have now. It won’t fix itself people, FIT IT!
What needs to be done is- Secure the schools-keep these idiots from entering the schools. We have the tools, metal detector at the main door, security cameras ect. Arming the teachers is not good, most teachers now days are not fit.
What if the active shooter is more than 5 feet away. Effectively using pepper spray has a distance disadvantage to a firearm. Also, sprayed within a small confined space will cause bystanders eyes minor irritation. Nothing like making a room full of sitting ducks. If he really wanted to show it’s effectiveness he should demonstrate hitting a shooter at the door of a classroom full of students hitting only the active shooter and none of the students in a chaos situation. He’d be shot before he even breaks the glass it’s stored behind. Seems to make a great case for how much better a concealed carry teacher would be.
It is better than nothing but it is like bringing a knife to a gun fight ! Not a Good idea!!
I wonder if he’ll demonstrate castrating himself next to help prevent rape?
Hilarious comment!!! And also well deserved for the beta non-thinker….
Just more proof of the stupidity of liberals and their hairbrained moronic ideas.
Yes well, Service members are still about 17 times more likely to be killed than someone in a school shooting. There are 50 million kids in school in the U.S. and only 1.3 million in the Armed Forces. You can make statistics say anything you want them to say but the chance of being killed in a school shooting is pretty remote, not so if you are a member of the Armed Forces. I would add that some poor teacher relegated to “break glass if a shooter appears” to get pepper spray will be the first to fall in one of these incidences.
1. Does Tilleman think the shooter is going to calmly stand there, at very close range, while someone sprays the entire contents of a container of pepper spray into his eyes and up his nose? Remember, the shooter has a gun with a range a lot longer than pepper spray.
2. How long before bubba gets mad at a fellow student, breaks the glass and sprays the object of his animas?
3. Face shield. Walmart. $6.30 (plus tax and shipping). Problem solved.
4. Doesn’t anyone want to know, or care, why the kid wants to shoot up the school in the first place?
5. No wonder Congress is so screwed up. It is filled with morons like Tilleman: long on politically correct ideas that will never work in the real world.
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While policing I have been sprayed by police while fighting bad guys, we both kept fighting. Mace only works in church.
At Mr. Cox (in the video), maybe the reason more kids were killed at school than soldiers in combat in the last year is because they are unarmed! At the other dumb ass, maybe we should also post a sign saying “Gunmen please hold still for a moment while we spray you with pepper spray then you may continue”. I’m quite sure they would oblige! I would LOVE to see video of this moron attacking an armed gunman with his can of pepper spray!!!!
What a dweeb. If he ever did get in congress he would likely either eventually come out as a gay, or be busted for playing with little boys.
We must do better than name calling to get our point across. Pepper spray has it’s place for personal protection in close quarters. It is not going to stop an assailant with a firearm from any distance.
I would love to see this done to all the liberal gun control folks. It could be a new NRA TV show and skip the dunking of the head in soapy water. Speaking which, I always thought soap would sting too! What a dumbass. Anyway it would be funny as hell!
We have some of our officers and trainees use ‘Dawn’ dish washing liquid highly diluted. It’s better than most pepper spray decontamination products. Nothing works for me better than wind in my face and ability to make my own tears. Hydrate before training. When shit hits the fan and a partner gets you as well, cry like a baby and stay in the mix. Have a beer with partner after shift and debrief.
Just what you need, a bunch of kids scared to death and now blinded by pepper spray giving them no chance at getting away from a killer. It says right on the can not to use indoors.
Like someone else commented Guru, you can’t fix stupid. No reason to even waste 3 minutes of your time pondering it …
Too bad he wont volunteer to stand in front of a .45! What a sissy ass panzi. Pepper spray is not incapacitating to an adrenaline crazed maniac. On the other hand, if you happen to be a limp wristed politician then be careful, pepper spray is dangerous. Colorado is starting to become insane like ny, ct, ca, mass,
Revolution II time?
Hey Sean; It’s pronounced, ‘THE PEOPLES REPUBLIK of KALIFORNISTAN’. We Are voting in November to see if we can divide the Left Coast state into 3 separate states. Best of luck to the Conservative Left Coast Holdouts.
I know, I usually try not to reveal that I live in the peoples republik of kalifornistan too, often due to stereotypes. I would give my life/job up in a heartbeat and move if it was that easy. I too will be voting this November. All we can do is try, I think it’d be awesome to split this place up, so those of us who happen to like a nice climate and guns can live happily ever after. Or we could always revolt? It’s what got us this great country in the first place right?
I live in Mexifornia also, BUILD THE WALL TRUMP 2020
I think that would be a great idea. I can see it now someone who can’t see just spraying shots in any direction. I think that is sort of what they do already. Of course there is a little problem of getting within 10 or 20 feet or so of the shooter in order to spray them.
Don’t forget the NRA doesn’t give marksmanship training for pepper sprayers. Do they even have sights on them? My bet is a teacher would start spraying and get scared and spray down everything in front of him/her and totaly miss the shooter.
Before he is 100% on board with this solution I think he should consider a taser. Please demonstrate a taser for us.
I’m sure you already know this. When Taser darts are in you and pulsing, you have no body control. Add a finger on trigger with full auto and 100 round magazine. But yes, I would love to see this Nimrod subject himself to every Less Than Lethal option, when done put on a ballistic vest and take a round to center mass. When he catches his breath and his ribs heal up he would probably have a different outlook. NO HE WOULDN’T, he’s a bandwagon liberal wanting $$$ for his save the planet products.
He could have a series of videos of what not to rely on when gunplay is in effect. Have a shooter with paintball color his ass while he tries his remedies. I would even pay to watch. HAHA HAHA
I’ve been tear gassed and peppered sprayed! This guy is lying or a wimp!
Well he did start with his eyes tightly shut, all he got was residual effect. I would go with LYING WIMP. Gas grenades mess me up, spray I can deal with better, either way we stay in the fight. Be safe brother.
I think it’s fair to say that a claw hammer blow to the side of the head would be more effective than the pepper spray and would definitely love to see a video of Mr Tillman demonstrating the technique and effects on his person.
I truly feel sorry for the next generation who will be looking to idiots like this for leadership.
He should try shooting himself in the face with a shotgun.
Nice video from a pencil-necked beta. The and yet the most toxic thing in that video is his masculinity (sarc).
I do agree with him in one aspect: judging from the teachers I’ve met (I volunteered extensively at schools my children attended over the last 18 years) not all of them would be competent, nor could probably be trained into competence with fireams.
Pepper spray could be a component of school safety. I do have my doubts about its effectiveness on a drug-charged or mentally unbalanced individual.
Pepper spray is labeled ‘NOT 100% EFFECTIVE’, at least the products I have used. Armed teachers would have to be voluntary and they would have to pass the same psychological testing and firearms training as peace officers. Unfortunately nobody knows their ability or willingness to take a life until put into that position in real life situations. Firearms training is an on-going process, unlike qualifying for a concealed carry permit. Praise those willing to take on the responsibility. Pepper spray is good for breaking up a fight between more aggressive students who fail to comply with verbal commands. I love pepper spray, every single time I used it, it did what it was supposed to, lucky for me. I always had a contingency and never had a firearm pointed at me on these situations.
What about school of choice armed schools or unarmed schools. Let the parent decide. I bet that would settle the debate.
Calling this guy a Dipshit is an insult to Dip, and to Shit!
I think calling him a guy is too! Amen!
Tillman, bring your pepper spray to a gun fight, excellent choice!!
Stupid no clue idiot!
I’ll bring anyone of my firearms!
When I went through the FBI Academy as a new agent trainee (when it could be trusted to follow the Constitution), we were all spayed with pepper spray. The purpose of our being sprayed was to demonstrate that an individual, particularly yourself, could remain in the fight and not just run away or lay down and be slaughtered.
The protocol required that we stand before an instructor and while holding our eyelids open with our fingers be sprayed directly in the face. The instructor was required to be no more than 18″-24″ from the student when they deployed the spray. Again, the purpose of this was to demonstrate that being sprayed was not immediately incapacitating and that one could still remain in the fight long enough to save ones life or the lives of others.
Having experienced and witnessed this I would not propose anyone go up against a crazed killer high on adrenaline (at a minimum) armed only with pepper spray. To propose such is just asinine.
Thank you Sir!
I will bet his trigger finger still worked s he was able to shoot the hose towards himself
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Crackpot
Ha, ha, ha….what a moron!
I will use my work stuff on his team! It is the strongest allowed as a CO.
CORRECTION OFFICER GORDON: Thank You Sir for the duty you perform. Crybaby Tillman had his eyes tightly shut. Luckily everytime I used it on inmates it did what it was supposed to. Sagger has a bad time when it creeps down the buttcrack. You have a hard enough job job dealing with societies most vile and evil dipshits, and only duty tools that non-workers determine is all we need. I made it to retirement and got my sanity back. Be safe and Watch your 6. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU DO.
Democrats appear to have cornered the world market of double dipped douche-bags. To think that fellow democrats listen to his inanity and applaud his stupid act only to prove what a dumb ass he is. How do these people make it to congress?
Without the Crabs the real Americans would have no complaints. Can’t have happy without sad. They make to office it through sex scandals, land deals, and bribery. Then when it’s newsworthy they pull a rabbit out of the hat. Like a dress saved with semen or getting Bin Laden. Gee Wiz our Real Estate Tycoon womanizing president got with North Korea and got shit signed. Only time will tell. Oh ya, Fake News Media and political ads that idiots believe. THAT’S HOW THEY DO IT!
I’d like to see him play Russian roulette… with a pistol having a full cylinder.
If it had empty cylinders he would probably say ‘THAT’S NOT FAIR, GIVE ME THE SEMI-AUTO WILL A FULL MAGAZINE, OR ELSE I WILL TAKE MY BALL AND GO HOME”.
Here are some interesting FACTS for you Levi – in the police academy I used to work at, we would spray cadets/recruits with pepper spray, then require them to subdue and handcuff a “bad-guy” during control&arrest training. Once they got over the initial shock/pain, they were able to function and complete the task. Go figure, they didn’t need 40 minutes of pampering to “get over it”, they just learned to fight through it. And we NEVER taught them to fight an armed assailant with pepper spray… wonder why? Wonder why, Levi? Call me, I’ll take you through the scenario….
First and Foremost, THANK YOU SARGE! He would probably have to borrow some BRASS BALLS if he ever got called out. Really though, he probably has an attack when the waiter uses the pepper grinder at table side.
Why don’t these people understand that this will not work?
I hosed a kid with a knife in school with a can of pepper, the overspray was picked up in the AC return and cleared out the building.
When I took my kids to a ‘bring kids to work day’ (at a prison, outside the fence), I sprayed a wall in my office. My kids were 10 feet away, about the time they asked what is was supposed to do, the coughing started. They figured they probably wouldn’t want to be sprayed straight on.
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO!
“Stupid is as Stupid Does!” Gump, Gump, Forest Gump
It’s people like this that really impress why we need the 2nd amendment in full force and all the anti-gun laws thrown out because they are against the Constitution!
What an idiot! I was a corrections officer for a brief period. Went through being pepper sprayed. Not fun. Only effective in close quarters against a perp. That DOES NOT HAVE a gun. The adage, “Don’t bring a knife (or pepper spray) to a gun fight. “
Tillerman, I’m a stupid firearm owner and didn’t quite get your message. Please do it again.
Probably correct that less troops have been killed in combat this year than kids in school shootings. Troops carry guns, some fully automatic, most with high capacity magazines, and there better trained for combat than kids. Great comparison dude. We need trained armed guards in schools.
How does he propose one deploys the pepper spray without getting hurt? You have to be within 6 to 10 feet at the Max, then get a good shot of spray on the face. Any law-enforcement or military member can tell you they will never use pepper spray on someone with lethal means at their disposal. It’s used for a non-lethal means to subdue a subject that isn’t listening and could fight back but is not posing serious physical injury to anybody.
This is all besides the fact that pepper spray does not work on everybody.
Maybe he should do his research first.
Spray then move, grab next item on belt when spray didn’t work. Luckily every time I used it the desired effect was reached.
40 years ago in Basic Training the CS gas put me on the floor, since then Iv’e learned to adapt and deal with it. If I have a choice I would take being stunned or Tased over pepper, I have been subject to all. Nickname at last position was ‘Crash Test Dummy’. I would allow myself to be sprayed and run course so new officers being certified could see what was expected of them. It still sucks 40 years later, but can be overcome.
Wish he had tried that with a real armed assailant instead. We’d have one less fool in the world right now.
What an idiot. No one can never stop gun violence 100% of the time. Evil will always exist. I have an idea. Let’s out law cars because there are more deaths on the road by car accidents than gun violence. Further more what if the attacker uses a face shield, will the pepper spray work then? It the same stupid idea that liberals have. I bet there were signs that made it a gun free zone. Oh boy that really works.
So your saying that if a person with a gun comes into a school and starts shooting kids, you are proposing that the sensible thing for the teacher to do… who’s trapped in a room with a classroom full of kids and a crazy person that’s trying to kill them, for that teacher to go to wall mounted glass case, like a fire extinguisher and brake the glass and pull out a bottle of pepper spray and start spraying the CRAZY person to stop them… and that alone will save lives????
We do not need another moron in Congress as we seem to have enough already .
It’s just like lava in your eyes. What a dumb ass statement. Pepper spray isn’t lava. I would suggest if this brain dead liberal though wants to make a comparison to it being like “lava” he should be made to go to Hawaii and do a face plant in real lava. They have a bunch of it lying around over there. To the black man in the video. How about you go to the inner city, take Chicago for example and see if you can talk a drug dealer out of his gun and dope money on the pretense it will make the streets safer. Say goodbye to your family before you leave because you ain’t coming back. To the lady with the little boy who will start school in a few years. I have a question. Where is the boys father
Baby Daddy probably in a test tube cryogenic-ally frozen.
Yeah hit him with some bear spray next !!!
Only an idiot would try to fight someone with a gun with pepper spray. Pepper spray at best 10 to 15 foot range. Firearm range pretty much unlimited..go figure another moron preaching something he knows nothing about.
This guy is an idiot!
I think this was CGI, let’s see this Simp do it again…a dozen more times.
Pepper spray is a weapon that you have to be close enough to spray the shooter which puts you in the kill zone five times faster than you can spray your attacker. Ask yourself why police carry and body guards for the senate and congress people carry. Tillman your assigned statement is obviously untested. Buy a shooter a b/b gun and see how many times he can cock and shoot you before you get close enough to spray them. Einstein people like you are a danger to school children. SEMPER FIDELIS