{"id":93586,"date":"2018-07-05T11:02:36","date_gmt":"2018-07-05T15:02:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=93586"},"modified":"2018-07-05T11:02:36","modified_gmt":"2023-08-30T21:31:35","slug":"fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa\/","title":{"rendered":"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_93589\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/fbi.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa\" title=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-93589\" title=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-93589\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/fbi-400x267.jpg\" alt=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/fbi-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/fbi-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/fbi.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-93589\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">FBI Director Christopher A. Wray speaks at a cybersecurity conference (<em>Photo: FBI Facebook<\/em>)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Last month we <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/fbi-second-amendment-rights\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa\" title=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported<\/a> that five individuals had undertaken a suit against the Federal Bureau of Investigation on the grounds that the agency erroneously denied their background check requests and refused to process their appeals. This week three additional individuals <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.wixstatic.com\/ugd\/c601ae_11ebf5c7757d4c268557e42de498fdbd.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa\" title=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">added their names to the suit<\/a> after receiving letters from the Feds claiming that no appeals process exists to contest denied background checks involving NFA items.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s not a lawful position. I don\u2019t know what else to say. It\u2019s just not lawful,\u201d Stephen D. Stamboulieh, the attorney for the plaintiffs, told GunsAmerica. \u201cThe FBI is denying my appeal remedy, which is in and of itself a violation of my due process rights. You\u2019re telling me I\u2019m on a list, and you\u2019re giving me no way to get off that list.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stamboulieh says he\u2019s been contacted by over 100 individuals who have been waiting years for the FBI to process their background check appeals for Title I firearms (pistols, long guns, etc.). But some of these individuals, like plaintiff Kevin Franscisco Borquez, tried to purchase NFA Class III items (suppressors, short-barreled rifles, etc), and received a letter from the Feds stating that they have no way to appeal their erroneous background check.<\/p>\n<p>Borquez was convicted of a felony in California more than a decade ago. In 2010 he requested that his felony charge be reduced to a misdemeanor, and he received a letter from the state reinstating his Second Amendment rights.<\/p>\n<p>But when he moved to Wyoming and tried to purchase NFA Class III items, the FBI denied his background check request. Borquez attempted to appeal these denials but was advised by the FBI that NICS \u201cdoes not process appeal requests for the NFA background checks.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_93587\" style=\"width: 632px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/letter.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa\" title=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-93587\" title=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" class=\"size-full wp-image-93587\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/letter.jpg\" alt=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" width=\"622\" height=\"570\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/letter.jpg 622w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/letter-150x137.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/letter-327x300.jpg 327w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 622px) 100vw, 622px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-93587\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The letter Mr. Borquez received from the FBI (<em>Photo: Stamboulieh Law, PLLC<\/em>)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The problem is that, according to Stamboulieh and contrary to what the FBI implies, there isn\u2019t a separate background check process for Title I and Class III items. The ATF approves the transfer of NFA items, but they use the FBI NICS database to do background on prospective owners. Stamboulieh knows this because even NFA items receive a NICS Transaction Number (NTN).<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s exactly the same thing,\u201d Stamboulieh pointed out, referring to the background check process for Title I and Class III items. \u201cWhy are you giving me an NTN for both if they\u2019re different?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stamboulieh argues that because the FBI does the same NICS check for both Title I firearms and NFA items, the same appeals process should be available for both item classes. He\u2019s still waiting for clarification from the Feds, but on the surface, their position is untenable.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe FBI has taken this absurd position that, \u2018We\u2019re not going to process this appeal because it\u2019s not for a Title I firearm,\u2019\u201d he explained. \u201cThey say that for the NFA, it\u2019s completely different. You don\u2019t have a right to appeal it, so you\u2019re basically SOL. And I think that\u2019s just wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>SEE ALSO:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/dancing-fbi-agent-charged\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa\" title=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" rel=\"bookmark\">Dancing FBI Agent Responsible for Shooting Bar Patron is Charged<\/a><\/h2>\n<p>Individuals who are denied a Class III purchase based on a faulty background check have few options to restore their Second Amendment rights. Stamboulieh says he knows one man who contacted his gun-friendly Congressman, and his purchase was approved in a matter of days.<\/p>\n<p>But for the majority of gun owners, legal action remains their only recourse. Stamboulieh says he can usually get the FBI to change their decision, but it will cost between $4,000 and $10,000.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re wondering why gun-rights organizations haven&#8217;t stepped in, Stamboulieh says the answer is simple: there\u2019s no money in it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe way that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.cornell.edu\/uscode\/text\/18\/925A\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa\" title=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">18 USC 925A<\/a> is written, it only provides attorney\u2019s fees if you\u2019re the prevailing party,\u201d he said. \u201cSo, what the government does is, as soon as they get one of these complaints, they voluntarily change their position, and they clear your guy. That automatically gets [the Feds] out of paying for attorney\u2019s fees.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stamboulieh has developed legislation that would give the FBI 30-60 days to process an appeal, but the Congressman who requested the law has yet to introduce it. In the meantime, Stamboulieh expects to hear from more gun owners who have had their Constitutional rights stripped due to bureaucratic incompetence.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t even know what to say to that that\u2019s not profane,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/Search.aspx?Keyword=suppressor\" campaign=\"FBISuedOverNFAAppeal\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\">***Shop GunsAmerica for your next suppressor.***\u00a0<\/a><\/h2>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cThe FBI has taken this absurd position that, \u2018We\u2019re not going to process this appeal because it\u2019s not for a Title I firearm,\u2019\u201d he explained. \u201cThey say that for the NFA, it\u2019s completely different. You don\u2019t have a right to appeal it, so you\u2019re basically SOL. And I think that\u2019s just wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":54,"featured_media":93589,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_specdata_upc":"","_specdata_placement":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[244,25,593,261,240],"tags":[132,708,469,607,333,122],"featured":[],"hunt365":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-93586","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-2nd-amendment-r2kba","8":"category-current-events","9":"category-jordan-michaels","10":"category-police-state","11":"category-this-week","12":"tag-buzz","13":"tag-fbi","14":"tag-gun-control","15":"tag-news","16":"tag-nfa","17":"tag-r2kba"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.1 (Yoast SEO v27.3) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights - Gun Reviews and News | GunsAmerica.com\/Digest<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The FBI has been sued for telling American citizens that no appeals process exists to contest an erroneous background check involving an NFA item.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/fbi-bureaucratic-incompetence-nfa\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Exclusive: How the FBI\u2019s Bureaucratic Incompetence is Denying Citizens Their 2A Rights\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"\u201cThe FBI has taken this absurd position that, \u2018We\u2019re not going to process this appeal because it\u2019s not for a Title I firearm,\u2019\u201d he explained. \u201cThey say that for the NFA, it\u2019s completely different. 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