{"id":92138,"date":"2018-05-31T06:52:06","date_gmt":"2018-05-31T10:52:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=92138"},"modified":"2018-05-31T06:52:06","modified_gmt":"2023-08-30T20:13:07","slug":"truth-about-red-flag-laws","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/truth-about-red-flag-laws\/","title":{"rendered":"Exclusive: &#8216;Sending People Home To Die,&#8217; The Truth About Red Flag Laws"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_92197\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/MassRedFlag.png\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"truth-about-red-flag-laws\" title=\"Exclusive: 'Sending People Home To Die,' The Truth About Red Flag Laws\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-92197\" title=\"Exclusive: 'Sending People Home To Die,' The Truth About Red Flag Laws\" class=\"size-large wp-image-92197\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/MassRedFlag-1024x536.png\" alt=\"Exclusive: 'Sending People Home To Die,' The Truth About Red Flag Laws\" width=\"1024\" height=\"536\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/MassRedFlag-1024x536.png 1024w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/MassRedFlag-150x79.png 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/MassRedFlag-400x209.png 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/MassRedFlag-768x402.png 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/MassRedFlag.png 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-92197\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Red Flag law that doesn&#8217;t treat mental illness isn&#8217;t worth the paper it&#8217;s printed on. It&#8217;s just a confiscation scheme. Hey moms, if you really want to save lives, demand action on mental health treatment for folks who are an &#8220;extreme risk&#8221; to themselves or others.\u00a0 Just like confiscating beer from an alcoholic doesn&#8217;t treat his addiction, taking guns away from suicidal or homicidal individuals doesn&#8217;t fix their personal and cognitive woes.\u00a0 Use the &#8220;common sense&#8221; you&#8217;re constantly imploring pro-gunners to employ. (<em>Photo: MA Moms Demand Action<\/em>)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>On Tuesday, I had a chance to catch up with Jim Wallace from<a href=\"https:\/\/blog.goal.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"truth-about-red-flag-laws\" title=\"Exclusive: 'Sending People Home To Die,' The Truth About Red Flag Laws\"> Gun Owners Action League<\/a> (GOAL). Jim is the Executive Director of GOAL. Our conversation centered around the deeply misguided Extreme Risk Protection Order (ERPO) bill, also known as a \u201cRed Flag\u201d bill, wending its way through the Massachusetts Legislature.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re not familiar with ERPOs, they are a way for the government to confiscate firearms from purportedly troubled individuals. In an ideal world, they function like this. A concerned friend or family member or a law enforcement officer petitions a court to seize an individual\u2019s firearms on the basis that the person is a threat to themselves or others. Evidence to substantiate that claim is provided to a judge and that judge makes a decision on whether authorities need to intervene and confiscate.<\/p>\n<p>Under most ERPOs there is a timely appeal process for the defendant, usually within 10 days. If the individual feels as though he has been wrongly accused he or she can ask for a hearing to make a case as to the state of his or her well being and present evidence that everything is copacetic. If the judge agrees, the firearms are returned. If not, the firearms remain in the possession of the state until the ERPO expires or indefinitely depending on the case.<\/p>\n<h2>SEE ALSO:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ny-lawmakers-push-erpo-bill-make-confiscation-easier\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"truth-about-red-flag-laws\" title=\"Exclusive: 'Sending People Home To Die,' The Truth About Red Flag Laws\">NY Lawmakers Push ERPO Bill to Make Confiscation Easier<\/a><\/h2>\n<p>The ostensible goal of an ERPO is to disarm those who need to be disarmed while respecting the rights, including Due Process, of the falsely accused. It\u2019s a win-win for everyone. Except\u00a0that it isn\u2019t. There are considerable flaws to ERPOs, including one that Jim is fully cognizant of and one that the Massachusetts Legislature refuses to acknowledge. They are strictly a confiscation scheme.\u00a0 They provide no mental health treatment or supervision or intervention to those who truly need it. The sole focus is on taking guns.\u00a0 It would be like a bomb squad only concerning itself with silencing the ticking on a ticking time bomb as opposed to fully defusing it.<\/p>\n<p>Consider this, as Jim explained. You\u2019re a suicidal individual. You\u2019re on the edge. Suddenly, authorities are knocking at your door. You\u2019re confused. Your neighbors are wondering what\u2019s going on, they\u2019re watching from their windows. Your new girlfriend\u2019s over, she had no idea about your depression. After the cops take your guns, she leaves without saying a word. Police bring you in for an evaluation. You don\u2019t seem that bad, so they cut you loose. The question is how do you handle this embarrassment. Given your fragile state, who knows how you\u2019ll respond. The reality is that just because they took your guns doesn\u2019t mean that you still can\u2019t end your life. Fact: Most suicides in Massachusetts don\u2019t involve a firearm (93 percent of women and 78 percent of men do not use a gun), according to the state Department of Public Health. You have a car, you have knives in the kitchen and chemicals under the sink. The reality is that your house is still a hazard because the state, in its myopic quest to seize tools that go bang, forgot about the most important piece to the equation: <em>you<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re sending people home to die,\u201d said Jim. That\u2019s the reality of a Red Flag law that fixates on confiscation and says nothing about treatment. To its credit, GOAL offered a counterproposal to the ERPO bill that would shift the focus to the individual, one that offered a suicide prevention hotline, wellness check-ups, medical care and more. But imagine this. It was roundly rejected by lawmakers<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it&#8217;s really important not to conflate mental health with what we&#8217;re trying to do,\u201d said Rep. Marjorie Decker, the sponsor of the bill, in a State House News Service article. She said that the ERPO was \u201cone tool\u201d to limit \u201csuicide and mass casualty events.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That statement alone makes one question the sanity of the politicians in Massachusetts. How can a bill designed to stop people deemed by the state to be \u201cextreme risks\u201d due to mental illness not be primarily concerned with treating mental illness?\u00a0\u00a0Makes zero sense.\u00a0 It would be like creating a law to stop addicts that mentions nothing about treating addiction.\u00a0 <em>You&#8217;re an alcoholic.\u00a0 We&#8217;re just going to confiscate your beer.\u00a0 That&#8217;ll fix ya!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The truth is, as mentioned, taking guns away from suicidal or homicidal individuals does not make them any less dangerous to themselves and others. Cars, knives, baseball bats, and even stolen guns from neighbors or family members can all be used by that troubled individual to take lives.<\/p>\n<h2>SEE ALSO:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/massachusetts-police-seize-65-year-olds-gun-collection-improper-storage\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"truth-about-red-flag-laws\" title=\"Exclusive: 'Sending People Home To Die,' The Truth About Red Flag Laws\">Massachusetts Police Seize 65-Year-Old\u2019s Gun Collection for \u2018Improper Storage\u2019<\/a><\/h2>\n<p>GOAL came to the table with solutions that would work toward fixing broken people. But Bay State politicians don\u2019t want any part of it. They\u2019re happy with gun confiscation as the end all be all for treating troubled people.<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s also fascinating, maybe ironic even, and Jim mentioned this, is that authorities in Massachusetts have a half dozen or so ways to confiscate guns already. Local cops can take a concealed carrier\u2019s guns at the drop of a hat under the License to Carry \u201csuitability clause.\u201d Firearm Identification cards can also be revoked by authorities for any number of reasons. Plus, longstanding laws allow the state to remove guns from people who have been committed involuntarily for mental health or substance abuse. Point being, Red Flag confiscation is completely redundant.<\/p>\n<p>Anyways, the House has passed Decker\u2019s shortsighted bill. It\u2019s expected to head to the Senate in the coming weeks before the end of the session in July.\u00a0 And if you think this contagion is only endemic to Mass., you&#8217;d be wrong.\u00a0 Congressional lawmakers, Sens.\u00a0Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC),\u00a0 have introduced the bipartisan <a href=\"https:\/\/www.congress.gov\/bill\/115th-congress\/senate-bill\/2521\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"truth-about-red-flag-laws\" title=\"Exclusive: 'Sending People Home To Die,' The Truth About Red Flag Laws\">Red Flag Law, S. 2521<\/a>.\u00a0 Maybe the final draft of the federal version will be more comprehensive.\u00a0 But I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath.<\/p>\n<p>I want to thank Jim for taking the time to talk to me. If you\u2019re a Bay Stater, make sure to support GOAL. They\u2019re on the frontlines fighting the good fight.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cYou\u2019re sending people home to die,\u201d said Jim.  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