{"id":84812,"date":"2018-01-05T12:26:16","date_gmt":"2018-01-05T17:26:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=84812"},"modified":"2018-01-05T12:26:16","modified_gmt":"2023-08-21T14:06:56","slug":"undercover-agents-illegally-gun-online","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/undercover-agents-illegally-gun-online\/","title":{"rendered":"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Posing as prohibited persons or out-of-state buyers, what happened when government agents tried to purchase guns online?<\/p>\n<p>The short answer.\u00a0 Unless they went to the dark web, they were rejected.<\/p>\n<p>Findings in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gao.gov\/assets\/690\/688535.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"undercover-agents-illegally-gun-online\" title=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\">two-year study<\/a>, conducted by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), tell the tale.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_84815\" style=\"width: 785px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gastatic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.53.00-PM.png\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"undercover-agents-illegally-gun-online\" title=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-84815\" title=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\" class=\"size-full wp-image-84815\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.53.00-PM.png\" alt=\"GAO Report\" width=\"775\" height=\"357\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.53.00-PM.png 775w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.53.00-PM-150x69.png 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.53.00-PM-400x184.png 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.53.00-PM-768x354.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 775px) 100vw, 775px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-84815\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The GAO report states, &#8220;All of our attempts to illegally purchase firearms from private sellers on the surface<br \/>web were\u00a0unsuccessful.&#8221; (<em>Photo: GAO Report<\/em>)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>For clarity, the &#8220;surface web&#8221; is the regular internet you and I use every day.\u00a0 For the study, agents went to a variety of online destinations to attempt to purchase firearms, including retailers, auction hubs and marketplaces, classified listings, forums and social media platforms.\u00a0 Who knows, they may have even tested GunsAmerica.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is that all 72 attempts &#8220;to illegally purchase firearms from private sellers on the surface web were\u00a0unsuccessful,&#8221; as the report stated.<\/p>\n<p>Translation: the majority of online gun sellers are law-abiding.<\/p>\n<p>Agents used a variety of scenarios during the test.\u00a0 Each scenario, whether it was pretending to be a felon or having a dishonorable discharge from the military or living in a different state than the seller and not wanting the transfer to go through an FFL, would disqualify one from purchasing a firearm.<\/p>\n<p>Of the 72 sales, the numbers break down like so: 29 sellers refused to ship across state lines w\/o an FFL, 27 refused after they learned that the buyer was a prohibited person, five of the sales were shut down by the website once the buyer entered in profile information disclosing that they were prohibited person or out-of-state buyer and the 11 remaining attempts, well, this is rather interesting.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In the 11 remaining attempts, we encountered private sellers that appeared to have scammed us, or attempted to scam us, after we disclosed our prohibited status or asked to avoid using an FFL,&#8221; stated the report.<\/p>\n<h2>SEE ALSO:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/atf-notice-redefine-bump-stock-machine-guns\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"undercover-agents-illegally-gun-online\" title=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\">ATF Issues Notice to Redefine Bump Stocks as Machine Guns \u2013 NSSF Wants Your Input!<\/a><\/h2>\n<p>&#8220;In two of these instances, we made a payment and never received the firearm or a refund,&#8221; it continued. &#8220;In the remaining nine attempted scams, our agents determined that the seller may not be legitimate and therefore did not complete the purchase.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_84813\" style=\"width: 492px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gastatic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.56.02-PM.png\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"undercover-agents-illegally-gun-online\" title=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-84813\" title=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\" class=\"size-full wp-image-84813\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.56.02-PM.png\" alt=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\" width=\"482\" height=\"217\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.56.02-PM.png 482w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.56.02-PM-150x68.png 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-1.56.02-PM-400x180.png 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 482px) 100vw, 482px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-84813\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The AR that the GAO agents bought via the dark web.\u00a0 The serial number was scratched off.\u00a0 (<em>Photo: GAO<\/em>)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Apparently, the GAO agents never read my article:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/dont-get-scammed-five-tips-for-online-gun-shopping\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"undercover-agents-illegally-gun-online\" title=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\">Don\u2019t Get Scammed: Five Tips for Online Gun Buying, Selling<\/a>.\u00a0 They would&#8217;ve been able to see the scammers a mile away.\u00a0 LOL.<\/p>\n<p>Apart from the scammers who are endemic to every internet sales forum out there, regardless of the product, the takeaway is that there are more scrupulous gun sellers on the Internet than feckless ones.\u00a0 This bucks the anti-gun narrative that the internet is a hotbed for illegal gun sales.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s funny is that Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) was behind this study.\u00a0 She&#8217;s one of the lawmakers who called for it.\u00a0 Something tells me these aren&#8217;t the results she was looking for.\u00a0 Warren was hoping for some fodder to rail on about the need for criminalizing private transfers or banning online gun sales. #FAIL.<\/p>\n<h2>SEE ALSO:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/pocahontas-reciprocity-act-fight-back\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"undercover-agents-illegally-gun-online\" title=\"What Happened When Undercover Agents Tried to Illegally Purchase Guns Online\">Pocahontas on Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act: \u2018We have to fight back\u2019<\/a><\/h2>\n<p>The only success GAO agents had was buying guns on the dark web.\u00a0 The underground internet which is a marketplace for illegal activity.\u00a0 Two out of seven attempts were successful.\u00a0 Agents purchased an AR-pattern rifle and an Uzi.\u00a0 As for the other five attempts, the deals went south for a variety of reasons, e.g. the gun had sold to another buyer, technical difficulties using the dark web, the seller stopped responding, the seller refused to use an escrow account for payment.<\/p>\n<p>Buying a gun on the dark web is the equivalent of buying a gun from the streets.\u00a0 Which is to say, buying a gun from a criminal.\u00a0 No surprise that they scored a few guns.\u00a0 In fact, the real surprise is that the GAO agents weren&#8217;t more successful on the dark web.\u00a0 Something tells me that these five illegal dealers caught onto the ruse and purposely terminated the deal.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Posing as prohibited persons or out-of-state buyers, what happens when government agents try to buy guns online? 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