{"id":71279,"date":"2017-03-07T15:39:00","date_gmt":"2017-03-07T20:39:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=71279"},"modified":"2017-03-07T15:39:00","modified_gmt":"2023-08-20T19:36:24","slug":"shoot-ep-45-date-night","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/shoot-ep-45-date-night\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong"},"content":{"rendered":"<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Img19009-KW.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"shoot-ep-45-date-night\" title=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-71280\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Img19009-KW-1024x795.jpg\" alt=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\" width=\"1024\" height=\"795\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Img19009-KW-1024x795.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Img19009-KW-150x117.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Img19009-KW-386x300.jpg 386w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Img19009-KW-768x596.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Img19009-KW.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a>\n<p><em><strong>Editor\u2019s Note:<\/strong> The following is a post by\u00a0Mark Kakkuri, a nationally published freelance writer who covers guns and gear, 2nd Amendment issues and the outdoors. His writing and photography have appeared in many firearms-related publications, including the USCCA\u2019s Concealed Carry Magazine. You can follow him on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/markkakkuri\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"shoot-ep-45-date-night\" title=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\">Twitter @markkakkuri.<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Check out the last five episodes in this series:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-40-should-i-shoot\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"shoot-ep-45-date-night\" title=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\">Ep. 40 Should I Shoot? Your Carry Gun vs. the Man with the AK<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-41-should-i-shoot-know-the-j-a-m-calculation-jeopardy-ability-means\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"shoot-ep-45-date-night\" title=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\">Ep. 41 Should I Shoot? Do You Carry in the Home? Do You Know the J.A.M. Calculation?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-42-shoot-call-911\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"shoot-ep-45-date-night\" title=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\">Ep. 42 Should I Shoot? When Do You Call 911?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-43-shoot-trench-coat-crowded-church\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"shoot-ep-45-date-night\" title=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\">Ep. 43 Should I Shoot? The Trench Coat and the Crowded Church<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-44-should-i-shoot-the-accident\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"shoot-ep-45-date-night\" title=\"Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? Date Night Goes Wrong\">Ep. 44 Should I Shoot? The Car Accident and the Driver with the Pistol<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It\u2019s been a while since you and your significant other have been out on an honest-to-goodness date. While the last couple \u201cdates\u201d at least had some element of eating out, you ended up going to the big-box home supply store to pick up things you needed for the house. Which means there was house stuff to do when you got home. Which for those nights pretty much deflated date night and turned it into something not very romantic. But tonight\u2019s different. No house projects are calling and you two are thinking about the menu at your favorite restaurant and then coffee and dessert at the local coffee house.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019ve had your concealed carry permit for more than 10 years now, you carry regularly and your significant other is used to your about-to-leave-the-house routine: You chamber a round in your single-stack 9, carefully holster it and then carefully insert the holstered gun inside your waistband at 4 o\u2019clock. Then, a spare magazine goes in magazine holster attached to your gun belt on your weak side.<\/p>\n<p>After a short drive into town, you\u2019re both sitting at a table in a small but popular restaurant, looking over the menu. Since you\u2019re big on situational awareness, you\u2019re not only looking over the menu, trying to decide what to order, you&#8217;re also looking over the menu at the other patrons in the restaurant. You\u2019ve gotten good at spotting other people who might be carrying concealed \u2014 every now and again a pistol stock prints behind a shirt \u2014 and generally keeping an eye on things. Your significant other has picked up on this too, and at times, can spot a DLR (\u201cdoesn\u2019t look right\u201d) or even a concealed carry purse. You\u2019re not paranoid, but you also generally pick a seat and table that gives you a view of the exits and most of the people in the room.<\/p>\n<p>Thankfully, dinner is quite enjoyable and there\u2019s no cause for any kind of alarm, let alone defensive action. So, it\u2019s on to the local coffee house \u2014 just a short walk up the street \u2014 which specializes in homemade cheesecake and hand-crafted coffees. The coffee house is jammed with patrons who are standing or sitting on a lot of \u201cvintage\u201d furniture and crowding the exits front and rear. You\u2019ve been in this local coffee house many times and, while it\u2019s great dessert and coffee, from a tactical or defensive standpoint, it\u2019s a nightmare. Narrow entries and exits, a single aisle down the middle with hardly any room, and people everywhere. You and your significant other order at the counter and get a table. You get a seat with your back to the wall \u2014 a small but helpful point of relief for you.<\/p>\n<p>This part of your date night is going well too, when you notice a couple walk in. Nothing really catches your attention about this couple except that the man has a somewhat nervous look on his face and you immediately notice he\u2019s constantly tugging at his white, straight-hemmed, untucked shirt, sort of pulling it down around his waist. Except it\u2019s not riding up in any way. You watch them walk through the coffee house. The man stands up straighter than most and continues tugging at his shirt, usually with the thumbs and index fingers of both hands, at 8 o\u2019clock and 4 o\u2019clock. They look like a nice enough couple and, thinking the best, you figure he has a concealed pistol license and is probably carrying a gun. A good guy. But you keep an eye on him nonetheless.<\/p>\n<p>At some point, you forget about the other couple and finish your dessert and coffee, enjoying the date night and promising yourself you\u2019ll do this again soon. You and your significant other leave the coffee house, strolling out on the sidewalk where you immediately bump into some friends and strike up a conversation. After a few minutes of chatting, the couple you noticed earlier comes out of the coffee house. They turn away from you and your group, walking arm in arm. And that\u2019s when you see the clear outline of a full-size pistol in the small of the man\u2019s back. Her arm around him has pressed his shirt against his back, causing the gun to print. He goes for another tug with the hand not around her but to no avail. The gun still prints clearly. And he continues walking very erect, trying to give the shirt as much slack as possible. You smirk, grateful to know others are carrying but hoping the man can improve on his concealment methods.<\/p>\n<p>As the couple walks away, arm in arm, their path runs headlong into four young men who, by their appearance, look like typical high school kids. The kids split into twos as the couple passes between them. Suddenly, one kid on the man\u2019s side sucker punches the man in the back of the head while the other kid on the man\u2019s side swings a kick at the man\u2019s shins. Their strength and timing is well-calculated; the man doesn&#8217;t have a chance. He goes sprawling forward, collapsing on the ground, holding his head with both hands. At the same time, the other two kids on the woman\u2019s side have also acted: One kid pushes the woman toward the man as he is falling while the other kid grabs her purse, ripping it from her arm. The woman trips over the man and crashes to the ground with him. Two of the kids take off running down the street. The other two (one with the stolen purse) take off running up the street, toward you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Should I Shoot?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Scenario 1.<\/strong> Your friends hear the commotion, but you see it and hear it. They turn and look at what you\u2019re looking at. For a moment, you\u2019re all stunned, watching what looks like a common purse-snatching in progress. Except it all seems to be going in slow motion. Two of the kids are running right toward your group. Angered by their actions, not sure what to do but wanting to help, you instinctively pull your friends away from the path of the two thieves and, at just the right moment, you swing a kick at the leg of the kid with the purse. Your foot connects with his ankle, causing it to move behind his other leg while he\u2019s in full stride, effectively tripping him. He screams and falls in a sprawl to the ground about 5 feet from you, dropping the purse, which causes its contents to spill out. Scraped and bruised, he starts to pick himself up while he looks back at you with shock and anger in his eyes. On the ground in front of him are some of the contents of the stolen purse, including a wallet, some change, a smartphone and a holstered revolver. The other kid continues running.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Scenario 2.<\/strong> You hear a shout from behind you, \u201cStop right there!\u201d The kid in front of you looks past you and a look of horror crosses his face. You freeze, thinking the voice behind you might be a police officer, but you\u2019re also watching the kid\u2019s hands and the holstered revolver on the ground. The kid doesn\u2019t seem to have noticed it \u2026 yet. You turn your head slightly and, out of your peripheral vision, you see that the man who was attacked is on his feet, limping toward you, gun in hand. You\u2019re pretty sure he\u2019s not coming for you, but who knows what the man is assuming at this point. Your friends are melting away from the path of the man \u2026 but you\u2019re directly in his path. At this point, the kid makes his move, lunging in the direction opposite the man to make a run for it, leaving the purse and all its contents behind. The man tries to chase the kid but the pain in his leg and head is too great. Instead, he looks down at the purse, sees the holstered revolver and then looks directly at you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Scenario 3.<\/strong> The commotion has drawn a crowd and the man seems dazed. Your mind is racing, but you calmly say, \u201cI\u2019m here to help, buddy. Can you put your gun away?\u201d The man seems to gather his wits quickly, realizing you\u2019re not a threat and clumsily holsters his gun in the small of his back, pulling his shirt over it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is your friend\u2019s purse,\u201d you say, gesturing toward it.<\/p>\n<p>The man sees the holstered revolver on the ground and immediately stoops down to collect it and the rest of the belongings. You stoop down with him and ask to help him again. He rubs his head, nods and then walks over to where the woman is, to see if she\u2019s OK. She\u2019s now sitting on a bench and several people are with her, helping her treat a nasty scrape on her knee and elbow and a cut over her eye. You carefully place the holstered revolver and other items back in the purse and walk them over to the couple. Across the street, two police officers on bicycles notice the commotion and crowd and ride over to check out the situation. You start thinking through everything that\u2019s happened, reviewing details and wondering whether it was wise to intervene like you did. The police officers roll up.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat\u2019s going on here? Is everybody OK?\u201d they ask.<\/p>\n<p>In what way would Scenario 1 or 2 have to change in order for you to be justified in drawing your gun and shooting? What if, in Scenario 3, any of the four kids showed up at the scene while you and the police officers were all there?<\/p>\n<p><em>For more critical information on the use of deadly force and other firearms and self-defense topics, visit\u00a0<\/em><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uscca.com\/GunsAmerica\" campaign=\"USCCAShouldIShoot\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\">www.uscca.com\/GunsAmerica<\/a><\/em><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Your significant other has picked up on this too, and at times, can spot a DLR (\u201cdoesn\u2019t look right\u201d) or even a concealed carry purse. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":34,"featured_media":71280,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_specdata_upc":"","_specdata_placement":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[7,234,340,216],"tags":[132,586,291,844,626,642],"featured":[],"hunt365":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-71279","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-gunsamerica-authors","8":"category-columns","9":"category-columns-ccw-edc","10":"category-s-h-blannelberry","11":"tag-buzz","12":"tag-column","13":"tag-dgu","14":"tag-home-defense","15":"tag-opinion","16":"tag-should-i-shoot"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.3 (Yoast SEO v27.3) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ep. 45 Should I Shoot? 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