{"id":67817,"date":"2017-01-09T12:02:39","date_gmt":"2017-01-09T17:02:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=67817"},"modified":"2017-01-09T12:02:39","modified_gmt":"2023-08-20T15:20:16","slug":"ep-37-shoot-crazy-man-knife","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/ep-37-shoot-crazy-man-knife\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife"},"content":{"rendered":"<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Knife_BadGuy_011.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"ep-37-shoot-crazy-man-knife\" title=\"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-67818\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Knife_BadGuy_011-1024x681.jpg\" alt=\"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Knife_BadGuy_011-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Knife_BadGuy_011-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Knife_BadGuy_011-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Knife_BadGuy_011-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Knife_BadGuy_011.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a>\n<p><em><strong>Editor\u2019s Note:<\/strong>\u00a0The following is a post by Ed Combs, the Associate Editor of Concealed Carry Magazine.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Check out the last five episodes in this series:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-32-shoot-winter-wonder-land\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"ep-37-shoot-crazy-man-knife\" title=\"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife\">Ep. 32 Should I Shoot? Threat Assessment in Cold Weather<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-33-should-i-shoot-the-late-night-prowler\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"ep-37-shoot-crazy-man-knife\" title=\"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife\">Ep. 33 Should I Shoot? The Late Night Prowler<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/should-i-shoot-34-drop\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"ep-37-shoot-crazy-man-knife\" title=\"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife\">Ep. 34 Should I Shoot? \u2018The Drop\u2019<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-35-shoot-backup-gun\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"ep-37-shoot-crazy-man-knife\" title=\"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife\">Ep. 35 Should I Shoot? When All You Have Is Your Backup Gun<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/ep-36-shoot\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"ep-37-shoot-crazy-man-knife\" title=\"Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? The Crazy Man With the Knife\">Ep. 36 Should I Shoot? Is that a Pellet Gun in My Face?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Here at \u201cShould I Shoot?\u201d we\u2019re more concerned with, as Lt. Col. Grossman would say, the \u201csoftware\u201d side of the concealed carry equation than the \u201chardware\u201d side. I love to talk guns and holsters and knives and flashlights as much as anyone, but this is about generating discussion and critical thought. We\u2019re here to run as many scenarios as possible and, in doing so, encourage all responsibly armed Americans to practice weighing options and making measured decisions. Nothing about any of that is simple, nor is any of it easy.<\/p>\n<p>Say you\u2019re standing in a hotel room packing to leave. Since you\u2019re clothed and you\u2019re not in a place that bars you from carrying, your EDC sidearm is right where it\u2019s supposed to be \u2014 charged and secured on your person. You hear several shouts outside and what is very clearly the word \u201cknife.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>You walk over to the sliding screen door and see a heavyset man in his mid-50s slicing at the air with what appears to be a regular old kitchen knife. You also see a group of men and women scattering away from him. Just as you see this, he weaves out of your line of sight and the shouting intensifies. You slide the screen door back and step out onto the balcony with your phone to your non-gun ear, and the 911 dispatcher tells you that they\u2019ve been alerted to the situation and that units are on the way.<\/p>\n<p>So, there you are: one story up on a hotel balcony, wearing a sidearm that\u2019s charged and ready to go, looking down on a parking lot where \u2026 well, let\u2019s go over what, exactly, you know at this point.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019ve personally seen a knife-swinging man who, at least once, lunged in an aggressive fashion toward about 10 other people. Those 10 people were concerned enough about his behavior to shout and run away from him and, now that he\u2019s weaved his way back in front of the balcony, you see that a few of the crowd are approaching him in an attempt to talk him down.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cShould I shoot?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Before shooting even crosses your mind, you need to rapidly assess your options. Minor permutations notwithstanding, here\u2019s where we are.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option 1<\/strong>: Do nothing else. You called 911, they know what\u2019s up and they have squads pointed in your direction. Stay away from the window and mind your own business. You\u2019ve already done more than most folks would do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option 2<\/strong>: Do nothing else but stand there on the balcony and observe, prepared to duck back behind the security of that cinderblock exterior hotel wall. Be, as they say, \u201ca good witness.\u201d Concentrate; get the details right. Take notes if possible.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option 3<\/strong>: Yell to the man that he needs to immediately drop the knife. Punctuate your point by drawing your sidearm and pointing it at his chest.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option 4<\/strong>: The man presents a direct-and-imminent threat to innocent life. Keep your weapon holstered but start your autogenic breathing, get down there and see if your help is needed.<\/p>\n<p>Which option is the wisest? Well, let\u2019s walk through them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option 1<\/strong>: Local law enforcement being what it is, there\u2019s a halfway decent chance that the multiple professionals who are currently on their way will know this guy by sight. They handle exactly this kind of behavior in exactly this area and, depending on where we\u2019re talking about, they might do so on a weekly basis. They\u2019re also in possession of less-lethal force options like TASERs, 12-gauge bean bag rounds and pepper spray. Most importantly, from where you\u2019re standing, if they have to shoot him, they\u2019ll be backed up by a police department, sheriff\u2019s office or state police agency. It might be harder to swallow than a tennis ball, but this might be one of those times that you step back and let the pros do their thing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option 2<\/strong>: Atop everything covered with Option 1, if you\u2019re out on that balcony, you might be able to provide valuable information to law enforcement for what could range anywhere from a routine police report to a full-on mass murder investigation.<\/p>\n<p><em>NOTE: Options 1 and 2 also mean that you might have to live with the knowledge that you \u2014 armed and at your level of training and experience \u2014 stood by as a person or persons got murdered by a madman. That would be tough to handle, but let\u2019s keep moving.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Option 3<\/strong>: Drawing your sidearm and issuing commands might sound good on paper, but what, exactly, do you think you\u2019re going to do from up there? Are you not just a competent but a good shot at however far away he is? Do you know how your pistol shoots from elevation? How much experience do you have with moving targets? If this guy\u2019s just having a particularly bad day and acting out, what\u2019s to say that hearing your orders and seeing your firearm won\u2019t escalate the situation, maybe even prompting him to grab someone just so he can murder them in front of you? (We won\u2019t even get into target isolation or him running under your balcony. In case you were wondering, I consider this the worst option of the four.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option 4<\/strong>: You\u2019ll insert yourself into a hot scene that will soon contain cops responding to a \u201ccrazy man with a knife\u201d call, and you\u2019re not in uniform. Moreover, you\u2019re about to intervene on what might be a random attack, a child custody argument, a psychotic break or a weird drug episode (and maybe some combination thereof). You have no idea what relationships exist between the man with the knife and the individuals around him. You don\u2019t know whether he was attacked or whether he\u2019s on a murderous rampage. You don\u2019t even know what was happening before the knife came out, but there you\u2019ll be, right down in it, trying to work out exactly where you fit into the whole picture.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t like any of those options.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I get down there as quickly and discreetly as possible, but then again, I\u2019m former law enforcement. I have training and experience in mitigating violence and dealing with emotionally disturbed persons \u2014 training in de-escalation, discreet NON-escalation and unobtrusive observation. (Those last two are harder than they sound.) I need to be there with a sidearm ready to save lives, but the best-case scenario is everyone stays away from him until the cops arrive and no one even suspects I realize what\u2019s going on.<\/p>\n<p>What do you do and, equally importantly, why do you do it?<\/p>\n<p><em>For more critical information on the use of deadly force and other firearms and self-defense topics, visit\u00a0<\/em><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uscca.com\/GunsAmerica\" campaign=\"USCCAShouldIShoot\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\">www.uscca.com\/GunsAmerica<\/a><\/em><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You\u2019ve personally seen a knife-swinging man who, at least once, lunged in an aggressive fashion toward about 10 other people.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":34,"featured_media":67818,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_specdata_upc":"","_specdata_placement":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[7,234,340,216],"tags":[132,586,291,844,626,642],"featured":[],"hunt365":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-67817","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-gunsamerica-authors","8":"category-columns","9":"category-columns-ccw-edc","10":"category-s-h-blannelberry","11":"tag-buzz","12":"tag-column","13":"tag-dgu","14":"tag-home-defense","15":"tag-opinion","16":"tag-should-i-shoot"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.3 (Yoast SEO v27.5) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ep. 37 Should I Shoot? 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