{"id":66830,"date":"2016-12-07T11:56:36","date_gmt":"2016-12-07T16:56:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=66830"},"modified":"2023-11-21T11:20:28","modified_gmt":"2023-11-21T17:20:28","slug":"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\/","title":{"rendered":"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_66838\" style=\"width: 1210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-008.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66838\" class=\"size-full wp-image-66838\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-008.jpg\" alt=\"A lot of renowned rifle cartridges were born from earlier famous cartridges. An example is the .404 Jeffery, which spawned all kinds of cartridges. L-R .338 RUM, .300 WSM, .300 RUM, .25 WSSM, .30 Nosler, .270WSM and .404 Jeffery.\" width=\"1200\" height=\"705\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-008.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-008-150x88.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-008-400x235.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-008-768x451.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-008-1024x602.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66838\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A lot of renowned rifle cartridges were born from earlier famous cartridges. An example is the .404 Jeffery, which spawned all kinds of cartridges. L-R .338 RUM, .300 WSM, .300 RUM, .25 WSSM, .30 Nosler, .270WSM and .404 Jeffery.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Cartridge development has an interesting and sordid history; the cartridges we have come to know and love \u2013 more often than not \u2013 are based on an existing design, modified to suit the shooting public\u2019s needs. Some of our most famous cartridges, ones we have used and read about for decades, have a lineage that may surprise you. There are foregone conclusions that have led to misconceptions about the function of certain features, and some relationships that might seem obvious once pointed out, but have been buried over the years. Let\u2019s take a look at some of the family trees of cartridges, and see how they\u2019ve intermingled and branched.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66831\" style=\"width: 371px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-001.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66831\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-66831\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-001-361x300.jpg\" alt=\"The proud parents of so many great cartridges. L-R .308 Win., 8x57mm Mauser, .30-06 Springfield, .375 H&amp;H Magnum, .404 Jeffery.\" width=\"361\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-001-361x300.jpg 361w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-001-150x125.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-001-768x638.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-001-1024x851.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-001.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 361px) 100vw, 361px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66831\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The proud parents of so many great cartridges. L-R .308 Win., 8x57mm Mauser, .30-06 Springfield, .375 H&amp;H Magnum, .404 Jeffery.<\/p><\/div>\n<h2><strong><em>The 8x57mm Mauser<\/em><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>In the late 1880s the German military developed a cartridge for one of Peter Paul Mauser\u2019s rifles: the 7,92x57mm, or as we know it better, the 8mm Mauser. Using a rim diameter of 0.473\u201d and a 57mm case length, the 8&#215;57 would actually be the father of one of the most influential German cartridges of all: Peter Paul Mauser\u2019s 7x57mm. That 7mm Mauser would go on to become a fantastic sporting round (I feel it makes one of the best deer guns ever), as well as a military service round that would star in a battle that spurred the U.S. Army to develop what may be the most popular cartridge in North America \u2013 the .30-\u201906 Springfield. More about that in a moment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEE ALSO: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/digest\/cz-550-american-safari-magnum-full-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\">The CZ 550 American Safari Magnum in .375 H&amp;H \u2014\u00a0Full Review<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The 57mm case length would go on to fight numerous battles; Spain and many of her colonies would adopt it as their standard issue round, and the 8&#215;57 saw service in two World Wars in the hands of German soldiers, with good effect. But that case was not lost on the sporting world either. In fact, the surplus military rifles and abundant ammunition caused the wildcatters to begin their notorious experimentation. It wasn&#8217;t long before cartridges like the 9x57mm Mauser and 9.3x57mm Mauser popped up from European rifle makers, and here in the States, guys like Ned Roberts would neck that case down to hold .257\u201d diameter bullets, giving us the .257 Roberts. Remington took that one step further down, developing the .244 Remington \u2013 or 6mm Remington, depending on the era \u2013 which would have been the 6mm standard were it not plagued by a poor choice of twist rate.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66832\" style=\"width: 285px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-002.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66832\" class=\" wp-image-66832\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-002-400x277.jpg\" alt=\"The 8mm Mauser and children. L-R 8x57 Mauser, 7x57 Mauser, and .257 Roberts.\" width=\"275\" height=\"190\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-002-400x277.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-002-150x104.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-002-768x531.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-002-1024x708.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-002.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66832\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The 8mm Mauser and children. L-R 8&#215;57 Mauser, 7&#215;57 Mauser, and .257 Roberts.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Beside the famous commercial cartridges that have been used around the world, there are quite a few wildcats that still get mentioned from time to time, like the 6.5x57mm, which makes a good blend of case capacity to bore diameter.<\/p>\n<p>The 8&#215;57 went through its changes early on, specifically a bullet diameter shift from .318\u201d to .323\u201d, but this venerable design is still sound, and a hunter who knows how to shoot his 8&#215;57 is well equipped for most of the world\u2019s game animals, save the true heavyweights.<\/p>\n<h2><strong><em>The .30-\u201906 Springfield<\/em><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>A small disagreement between the Kingdom of Spain and the United States of America, on the Caribbean island of Cuba, led to a major upheaval in the U.S. Army\u2019s thoughts on cartridge design. Yes, we won the argument, but the Spanish soldiers \u2013 who were using the 7&#215;57 Mauser we just discussed \u2013 were clearly better equipped than the Rough Riders et al. who were using the .30-40 Krag, with its 220-grain round nose slug at a very moderate velocity. Once the dust settled, and Spain was evicted from North America, the U.S. Army\u2019s Ordinance Department began to develop a new cartridge, with a case that borrowed some features of the Mauser design. They ultimately decided to keep the 220-grain, .308\u201d diameter bullet, but in a new case that would greatly improve on the muzzle velocities. The .30-\u201903 was a definite upgrade to the ballistics of the .30-40 Krag, but within three years was replaced by what would become an international wonder: \u201cCartridge, Ball, Caliber .30, Model of 1906.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66834\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-004.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66834\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-66834\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-004-400x266.jpg\" alt=\"The \u201906 Family Portrait: L-R .30-06 Spfd., .25-06 Remington, .270 Winchester, .338-06 A-Square, .35 Whelen. Absent from photo is .280 Remington, who doesn\u2019t speak to the .270 Winchester.\" width=\"400\" height=\"266\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-004-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-004-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-004-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-004-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-004.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66834\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The \u201906 Family Portrait: L-R .30-06 Spfd., .25-06 Remington, .270 Winchester, .338-06 A-Square, .35 Whelen. Absent from photo is .280 Remington, who doesn\u2019t speak to the .270 Winchester.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The \u201903 neck was shortened a smidgeon, the projectile weight was reduced from 220 grains to 150 grains, and the shooting world was knocked head-over-heels in love. There is absolutely no doubt that the .30-\u201906 Springfield remains one of our most treasured cartridges to this day, but oh! the children that this military wonder has sired!<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve read numerous stories about the designs that the Army had considered while sitting at the drawing board, developing the aught-six. One, pretty reliable I might add, included switching bullet diameters from .308\u201d to .277\u201d \u2013 in effect, this may have been the precursor to the crown-prince of the Springfield line: the .270 Winchester. Released just 19 years after the father was born, the .270 was available in the reliable Winchester Model 54 bolt-action rifle, and stepped the speeds up a notch. With an effective bullet weight range of 90 to 150 grains, it made (and still makes) good sense as an antelope\/deer\/elk rifle, and the musings of Jack O\u2019Connor did much to inflate the cartridge\u2019s popularity. Ninety-one years after its release, it remains a top seller.<\/p>\n<p>Even earlier than the .270 Winchester \u2013 though it would take 57 years to be declared legitimate \u2013 Charles Newton necked down the .30-\u201906 case to hold .257\u201d bullets, effectively introducing the world to what would become the .25-06 Remington. Though a bit light for game animals larger than deer, the .25-06 Remington makes a flat-shooting, hard-hitting choice for animals in that weight class. A good 117- or 120-grain bullet will handle the largest deer, and some of the lighter bullets make a great choice for distant pronghorns, providing the wind isn\u2019t blowing a gale that day.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66844\" style=\"width: 209px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-014.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66844\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-66844\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-014-199x300.jpg\" alt=\"Remington\u2019s .25-\u201906 is a good deer\/pronghorn choice, giving flat trajectory and decent wind bucking capabilities.\" width=\"199\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-014-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-014-100x150.jpg 100w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-014-768x1156.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-014-680x1024.jpg 680w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-014.jpg 797w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 199px) 100vw, 199px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66844\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Remington\u2019s .25-\u201906 is a good deer\/pronghorn choice, giving flat trajectory and decent wind bucking capabilities.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Remember I mentioned all those surplus 7mm bullets floating around? It made perfect sense to mate the \u201906 case with a 7mm projectile, and Remington did just that in 1957 \u2013 unveiling the .280 Remington. Personally, I like this cartridge best of any of the \u201906 offspring smaller than .30 caliber, as it offers the wide choice of bullet weights that will suffice for 90% of any hunting on earth. Slow sales prompted Remington to rename the cartridge the \u201c7mm Express Remington\u201d in 1979, but that just seemed to confuse things, and Big Green reversed the nomenclature two years later. Often compared to the .270 Winchester, the two cartridges don\u2019t speak at family functions.<\/p>\n<p>Going larger than .30 caliber, we\u2019ll find some interesting cartridges who call the Springfield \u201cDaddy.\u201d The .338-06 A-Square is, undoubtedly, a highly efficient design, fully capable of taking any North American game confidently, yet will still benefit from the lighter bullets within the caliber to make a good all-around choice. I\u2019ve seen this cartridge push the big 250-grain slugs to 2,400 fps, and that combination of velocity and high Sectional Density will ruin even a grizzly bear\u2019s day. African plains game, and even the dangerous cats can be taken quite neatly, as this cartridge essentially reproduces the ballistics of the classic .318 Westley Richards. Load some of the 180-grain bullets in the .338-06, and you\u2019ve got a perfectly viable deer gun in hand.<\/p>\n<p>The .35 Whelen \u2013 named in honor of Col. Townsend Whelen \u2013 sees the \u201906 case opened up to .358 caliber, and makes for quite a thumper. There are others &#8211; more obscure, yet effective \u2013 like the .400 Whelen, which confirm the fact that Springfield case makes a damned fine choice for most of the popular bullet diameters.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66836\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-006.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66836\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-66836\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-006-400x267.jpg\" alt=\"The .308 and descendants: L-R .308 Win., .243 Winchester, .338 Federal and .358 Winchester.\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-006-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-006-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-006-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-006-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-006.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66836\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The .308 and descendants: L-R .308 Win., .243 Winchester, .338 Federal and .358 Winchester.<\/p><\/div>\n<h2><strong><em>Military Favorite Son, Take Two<\/em><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Despite the success of the .30-\u201906 Springfield, the Army Ordnance Department had begun to search for a lighter, yet no less effective replacement for the \u201906. Initial research began with the .300 Savage, yet culminated in what was dubbed the T-65; the sporting world would know it better as the .308 Winchester. In fact, the sporting version was released two years prior to the official military adoption. Now, 60-plus years later, despite the campfire arguments that rage on when comparing and contrasting the .308 and \u201906, there\u2019s absolutely no denying that the .308 Winchester is both a fantastic target round and a wonderful big game cartridge. Like the .30-\u201806, there have been some children of that case that have rocked the shooting world. American wildcatters couldn\u2019t resist tinkering with the different possibilities of necking that short case, both up and down in caliber. In 1955 Winchester themselves released two variants of the .308 Winchester case: the .243 Winchester and the .358 Winchester, and both were available in bolt- and lever-action rifles. Now, as you all know, the little .243 makes and excellent choice for a deer\/varmint combination cartridge, and though it has fallen off the charts in recent years, the .358 is an excellent choice for close-range moose, elk and black bear. 1980 saw Remington throw its hat in the ring, legitimizing the 7mm-08 Remington, again taking advantage of the appetites of the 7mm crowd, and that cartridge has been very successful among hunters and silhouette shooters alike.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66835\" style=\"width: 207px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-005.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66835\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-66835\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-005-197x300.jpg\" alt=\"The .308 Winchester is at home as a target gun as well as a hunting round. \" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-005-197x300.jpg 197w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-005-98x150.jpg 98w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-005-768x1173.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-005-671x1024.jpg 671w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-005.jpg 786w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 197px) 100vw, 197px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66835\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The .308 Winchester is at home as a target gun as well as a hunting round.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>It would take 17 years before a commercial release of a new cartridge based on the .308; and in 1997 the .260 Remington reared its beautiful head. Hunters had long appreciated the ballistic advantages of the long, lean 6.5mm projectiles, based on the field performance of the 6.5&#215;55 Swede and the 6.5&#215;54 Mannlicher-Schoenaur. The .260 Remington makes all kinds of sense, giving a great blend of case capacity and bore diameter, for not only a highly accurate target round, but an excellent hunting round as well.<\/p>\n<p>Ten years ago, Federal Cartridge Company had their name attached to a fine rifle cartridge: the .338 Federal. It is, simply, the .308 necked up to hold .338\u201d diameter bullets; and the result is a wonderful short-action cartridge. Like most of the .308 family, it doesn\u2019t really shine with the heaviest bullets in the caliber range, but with the monometals and bonded core projectiles we have today, it will more than make up for that. I\u2019ve had the pleasure of spending a bit of time with this cartridge, and it\u2019s a wise choice for those who like the benefits of the larger bores, yet the petite short-action rifles.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEE ALSO: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/digest\/sub-moa-winchester-550-xpr-bolt-action-full-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\">A Sub-MOA Winchester for $550? The XPR Bolt-Action \u2013 Full Review.<\/a><\/p>\n<h2><strong><em>Her Majesty\u2019s Shining Moment<\/em><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>In 1912, the fine gentlemen at Holland &amp; Holland released a pair of cartridges that would change the shooting world as we know it: the .375 H&amp;H Magnum and the lesser-known .275 H&amp;H Magnum. While the .375 H&amp;H has become not only an African staple but a well-accepted cartridge for North America\u2019s biggest beasts, it would go on to influence many of our most popular magnums. The famous .375 H&amp;H case is 2.85\u201d long, defining a magnum-length receiver, and at that length would be responsible for such popular cartridges \u2013 in one way or another &#8211; as the .300 H&amp;H Magnum, the .416 Remington Magnum, 8mm Remington Magnum, .458 Lott and the .300 and .340 Weatherby Magnums. The signature belt on the .375 H&amp;H \u2013 which is for headspacing, and has nothing to do with case strength \u2013 would become a staple on many of the magnum cartridges released in the 1950s and 60s. Winchester\u2019s quartet of the .458, .338, .264 and .300 Magnums are all based on a shortened .375 H&amp;H case, as are the .257 and .270 Weatherby Magnums and .308 and .358 Norma Magnums. The same can be said for the 7mm Remington Magnum; however, the idea of a belted case necked to hold a 7mm bullet, at a length of 2.5\u201d dates back to that .275 H&amp;H Magnum of 1912, so the more things change, the more they stay the same. Remington also took things a bit further by shortening the case enough to fit in a short-action rifle, developing the 6.5mm Remington Magnum and .350 Remington Magnum. With the exception of the family of cartridges built around the .378 Weatherby (which has a belt, but a much larger case head diameter), virtually all belted cases can trace their roots back to the .375 H&amp;H Magnum. Clearly, shooters across the globe have a love for velocity, and that classic .375 H&amp;H case is, and was, a fantastic basis for achieving that goal.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66837\" style=\"width: 1210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-007.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66837\" class=\"size-full wp-image-66837\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-007.jpg\" alt=\"The mighty .375 H&amp;H Magnum and its offspring. Clockwise from lower left: .300 Winchester magnum, .416 Remington Magnum, .338 Winchester Magnum, 8mm Remington Magnum, .300 H&amp;H Magnum, .458 Winchester Magnum, .264 Winchester Magnum, .458 Lott and 7mm Weatherby Magnum.\" width=\"1200\" height=\"787\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-007.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-007-150x98.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-007-400x262.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-007-768x504.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-007-1024x672.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66837\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The mighty .375 H&amp;H Magnum and its offspring. Clockwise from lower left: .300 Winchester magnum, .416 Remington Magnum, .338 Winchester Magnum, 8mm Remington Magnum, .300 H&amp;H Magnum, .458 Winchester Magnum, .264 Winchester Magnum, .458 Lott and 7mm Weatherby Magnum.<\/p><\/div>\n<h2><strong><em>The Quiet Parent <\/em><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>The .404 Jeffery was released somewhere in the middle to late Nineteen-Oughts; it\u2019s a source of argument among cartridge historians, but suffice it to say that it was definitely available to hunters by 1909. It would be a workhorse among African Professionals and sportsmen alike, but it would stay out of the limelight \u2013 giving up the top billing to cartridges like the .375 H&amp;H and .416 Rigby \u2013 until the end of the 20<sup>th<\/sup> century. Though the .404 is one of my all-time favorite safari cartridges, it is the children of the .404 Jeffery that would make a much bigger splash; when Remington released the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum in the late 1990s, it set a new benchmark for velocity. The Remington Ultra Magnum is based on a necked down .404 Jeffery, with nearly all the body taper removed to maximize case capacity, and it requires a magnum receiver. The 7mm RUM, .338 RUM and .375RUM weren\u2019t far behind \u2013 giving very high velocities, among the highest from any major manufacturer. Winchester saw the wisdom of using the .404 Jeffery as a basis for development, but they went a different route: they shortened the case length down to fit in a .308 Winchester-length receiver, giving birth to the Winchester Short Magnum Series. While the .300 WSM is clearly the most popular of the trio, all three had an appeal to fans of the respective calibers. Remington also shortened things, releasing the Short Action Ultra Magnums, in 7mm and .308 caliber. Winchester wasn\u2019t done there either, cutting the WSM case down even further to create the WSSM series \u2013 the Winchester Super Short Magnums. Available in .223, .243 and .25 caliber, the Super Short Magnums sort of resemble a fire hydrant, but in the right rifle, they sure do shoot. Nosler has also embraced the RUM design in their recent releases; the .26, .28 and .30 Nosler cartridges can be called the grandchildren of the .404, in that they are a 30-\u201906-length RUM case, giving just the most velocity to date out of a standard length receiver.<\/p>\n<h2><strong><em>All in the Family<\/em><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Reloaders can use these family trees to their advantage, creating one cartridge from another with a minimum of work. For example, you can create .257 Roberts cases (a rarity these days) from the popular 7&#215;57 cases with ease. In a pinch, you can make .358 Norma brass from .375 H&amp;H, or .358 Winchester cases from .338 Federal. I\u2019ve used .30-\u201906 Springfield cases to make brass for my .318 Westley Richards (a more distant stretch, but totally possible), and I\u2019ve used \u201906 brass to make .338-\u201906 brass without issue. The .458 Winchester Magnum case can be converted into the wildcat .416 Taylor, and so on and so forth.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66847\" style=\"width: 1210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-017.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66847\" class=\"size-full wp-image-66847\" title=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-017.jpg\" alt=\"It\u2019s easy to make .338-06 A-Square cases from .30-\u201906 brass; one pass through the Redding resizing die and you\u2019ve got it!\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-017.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-017-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-017-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-017-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/No.-017-1024x683.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66847\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">It\u2019s easy to make .338-06 A-Square cases from .30-\u201906 brass; one pass through the Redding resizing die and you\u2019ve got it!<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Knowing the genealogy of your chosen cartridge can help you better understand its potential, and what exactly the designers were aiming for, so you don\u2019t end up disappointed in the performance. It may also help you to find ammunition \u2013 or find the raw materials to create it &#8211; should things get scarce again!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cartridge development has an interesting and sordid history; the cartridges we have come to know and love \u2013 more often than not \u2013 are based on an existing design, modified to suit the shooting public\u2019s needs. Some of our most famous cartridges, ones we have used and read about for decades, have a lineage that may surprise you. Let\u2019s take a look at some of the family trees of cartridges, and see how they\u2019ve intermingled and branched.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":62,"featured_media":66838,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_specdata_upc":"","_specdata_placement":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[7,18,749,113],"tags":[299,132,586,116],"featured":[],"hunt365":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-66830","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-gunsamerica-authors","8":"category-hunting","9":"category-phil-massaro","10":"category-gear-reloading","11":"tag-ammo-2","12":"tag-buzz","13":"tag-column","14":"tag-hunting-2"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.3 (Yoast SEO v27.3) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees - Authors\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/brothers-arms-understanding-famous-ammo-family-trees\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Brothers In Arms: Understanding Famous Ammo Family Trees\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Cartridge development has an interesting and sordid history; the cartridges we have come to know and love \u2013 more often than not \u2013 are based on an existing design, modified to suit the shooting public\u2019s needs. 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