{"id":579,"date":"2011-04-13T20:43:50","date_gmt":"2011-04-14T00:43:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=579"},"modified":"2026-01-12T10:28:48","modified_gmt":"2026-01-12T16:28:48","slug":"concealed-carry-old-vs-new-the-ruger-lcp-and-the-walther-ppk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/concealed-carry-old-vs-new-the-ruger-lcp-and-the-walther-ppk\/","title":{"rendered":"Concealed Carry – The Ruger LCP vs. The Walther PPK"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n
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The PPK and LCP are great examples of .380 ACP pistols made for the civilian concealed market.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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The Ruger LCP is small enough to lose in your hand.\u00a0 This gun has got to be one of the smallest and easiest to shoot .380\u2019s for the size.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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The PPK is not as small as the LCP, but compact nonetheless.\u00a0 The lines are still classic Bond.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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The Ruger definitely has the Walther beat when it comes to compact size. <\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Both, disassembled.\u00a0 The Ruger, left, has the separate, floating barrel design that sits with the slide.\u00a0 The PPK to the right has the barrel integral to the frame.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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The Walther\u2019s sights are far superior to the Ruger\u2019s; however, this is a close-in gun.\u00a0 In reality, you will most likely be point shooting.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Shooting the PPK.\u00a0 While heavier than the LCP, recoil was still fairly stout.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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The LCP is surprisingly easy to shoot when you consider its weight.\u00a0 That doesn\u2019t mean you\u2019ll want long range sessions with it though.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

Comparing the Classic Walther PPK to the Ruger LCP – <\/strong>Is Newer Really Better<\/strong>?<\/h2>\n

By Brian Jensen<\/p>\n

Ruger<\/a>:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Smith and Wesson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/p>\n

With the explosion of concealed carry permits throughout the United States, gun manufacturers have risen to the occasion with mini pistols made specifically for the civilian concealed market.\u00a0 These pocket pistols are often chambered for smaller rounds, such as the .380 ACP.<\/p>\n

The Walther PPK<\/strong><\/h2>\n

The pocket pistol is nothing new.\u00a0 The Colt Model 1908 Pocket was a small .25 caliber pistol introduced in 1908 in the US (and in 1905 by FN in Europe).\u00a0 However one pistol that made a remarkable impact in history was the Walther PPK<\/a>.<\/p>\n

The PPK was a small, traditional double action pistol by Walther in Germany, chambered primarily in the .380 Auto and .32 Auto cartridges.\u00a0 It carried a six round magazine in .380, and with its 3.3 inch barrel, it was easily concealable.\u00a0 Another feature that some like, and others may not, is the slide mounted safety that doubles as a de-cocker for the hammer.<\/p>\n

These were seen in blued versions from Germany, then later in stainless steel when production moved to the US under Interarms.\u00a0 When the Gun Control Act of 1968 came about, a newer version, known as the PPK\/S was developed to give the gun enough import \u201cpoints\u201d to come into the US.\u00a0 It mated the full-size frame of the Walther PP (the PPK\u2019s predecessor) with one round more capacity with the more compact slide of the PPK.<\/p>\n

However, no mention of the PPK is complete without covering its impact on pop culture, courtesy of Ian Fleming\u2019s James Bond.\u00a0 In the opening scenes of Dr. No, the first 007 movie, Bond is forced to give up his small Beretta .25 for a Walther PPK in 7.65 Browning (.32 Auto) which Bond\u2019s boss claimed that the CIA had great success with.\u00a0 The PPK was with Bond for many years after that, and the Bond connection is credited by many, with its success in the 1960\u2019s to now.<\/p>\n

These guns have been carried by people throughout the decades; from German officers in WWII to modern day cops, even today.\u00a0 Hitler is even reported to have exited this life (a few years later than the world would have liked) with a Walther PPK.\u00a0 (In fact, when I first began in Law Enforcement twenty years ago, the \u201cin\u201d gun was still a stainless PPK\/S.)\u00a0 For many years, the PPK\/S was the standard for the .380 pistol by which all others were measured.<\/p>\n

These guns are still currently in production under license from Smith and Wesson, and enjoy a loyal following for the newer versions.\u00a0 However, the price for one of these goes well into the high end $1000\u2019s for collector grade and rare models.\u00a0 If you want an older version, there are many early US-made versions under Interarms or French versions under the Manurhin name for sale.<\/p>\n

Enter the LCP<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Few guns have hit the US Market like the Ruger LCP<\/a>.\u00a0 The LCP (Ruger\u2019s Lightweight Compact Pistol) is an example of today\u2019s ultra mini .380 pistols, carrying six rounds in the magazine, plus one in the chamber.\u00a0 This DAO gun rivals the firepower of the PPK in a very concealable package.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s not the truly exceptional part of this pistol.\u00a0 This weapon is smaller, and lighter than what most have come to expect from our little .380\u2019s like the PPK, Sig P232, or the Browning BDA.\u00a0 This gun measures well under an inch in width, and weighs less than 10 ounces empty.<\/p>\n

The 2.75 inch barrel allows for easy carry, and its slim profile disappears in a pocket without any effort.\u00a0 The only control levers are the magazine release and a small nub that acts as a slide lock.\u00a0 There are no manual safeties to accidentally fumble with.\u00a0 Thanks to the glass-filled nylon frame mated with a hardened steel alloy slide its light weight makes the gun feel more like a toy than a pistol; even when loaded it feels a little surreal.\u00a0\u00a0 Since this gun was meant for concealed carry, it carries a set of fixed sights that are small and low-snag on the top of the gun.\u00a0 They don\u2019t look like much, but they do work.<\/p>\n

When the LCP first came out a couple of years ago, stores couldn\u2019t keep them on their shelves.\u00a0 Then, a brief recall to correct some safety features occurred, but this didn\u2019t dampen the appeal of the little gun.\u00a0 In fact, it is one of the few guns priced reasonably so anyone could afford it.\u00a0 It became known in some circles for a small gun you knew you would carry just because it\u2019s so light that you\u2019ll never have an excuse not to carry it.\u00a0 Currently at my police department, officers have flocked to the gun for off-duty and backup carry, making it one of the most common types used.<\/p>\n

The gun gained even more popularity when Texas Governor Rick Perry killed a coyote with one of these little guns while out on a walk with his daughter\u2019s dog.\u00a0 The incident left the predatory coyote as \u201cmulch\u201d per the Governor.\u00a0 It even spawned a special edition gun to capitalize on the story.<\/p>\n

Fit and Finish<\/strong><\/h2>\n

OK, fit and finish is a relative thing for people.\u00a0 For someone who just wants a utilitarian pistol for CCW,\u00a0 they will likely favor a corrosion resistant finish to protect the gun against the sweat and salts that occur when carried.\u00a0 To someone like this, stainless steel, a coating finish, or metal a treatment like Melonite will be high on their list.\u00a0 However, for those who collect, or just like the old school look of traditional bluing they will want something less high tech and more old school.<\/p>\n

For the utilitarian in you, the LCP has a pretty no-nonsense finish most will be happy with.\u00a0 It offers decent corrosion resistance, and if that\u2019s not enough, the slide can be refinished easily by such companies as CCR Refinishing for a very reasonable price.<\/p>\n

The Walther excels for the traditionalist.\u00a0 Mine has the traditional bluing, which looks classy, and will wear with that traditional look that a well-used (and even loved) weapon will get.\u00a0 It will need a good wipe down with a cloth and oil from time to time to keep it in good condition.\u00a0 Again, there are those who can refinish these guns, for a price, to make this more resistant to corrosion.\u00a0 Or, you can opt for a Stainless Steel version that will be excellent for CCW with far less worries, yet still hold that bit of class.<\/p>\n

Feel<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Like I said before the Ruger feels almost like a toy since it\u2019s so light.\u00a0 That works highly in its favor in making it very easy to carry.\u00a0 There were no rough spots to snag your clothes, or your skin for that matter.\u00a0 With a finger extension, it is very comfortable to hold with a 3-finger grip.\u00a0 Without it, you need to hold on tight with two fingers while you wrap your little finger under the grip.<\/p>\n

The Walther feels much more substantial with its 21 ounces of steel.\u00a0 That\u2019s more than double the weight of the LCP, but not too heavy for a CCW weapon.\u00a0 Then again, it is an all-steel gun.\u00a0 (Personally, part of me prefers the feel of a metal gun sometimes, but to each their own.)\u00a0 There is more room in the grip using the traditional finger extension to hold the gun with your whole hand \u2013 making it feel natural to grip, while the longer barrel makes it feel a little more balanced than the LCP.<\/p>\n

At the Range<\/strong><\/h2>\n

OK, so we\u2019ve fawned over these two diminutive pistols, how does it feel when the rubber meets the road?\u00a0 They can look or feel good all day long, but how do they shoot?<\/p>\n

I took both to the range and tried not only ball, but some of the newer .380 defensive ammo in the Hornady Critical Defense 95 gr and the Remington Golden Saber 102 gr. JHP.<\/p>\n

OK, now I kind of expected a lot from the Walther, due to it\u2019s history, but what I failed to realize, was that this gun was designed to carry and be fired close in to your target.\u00a0 That means, a painfully long initial heavy trigger pull.\u00a0 Afterwards, it was a crisp single action pull.<\/p>\n

The sights on the Walther were far superior to the LCP, but the first double action trigger pull was a bear \u2013 I\u2019d realistically estimate it as north of 15 pounds, maybe even closer to 20.\u00a0 But then came the single action pull, which was crisp and light in the neighborhood of 3-4 pounds.\u00a0 This allowed for very accurate shooting compared to the primary trigger pull.<\/p>\n

I called Walther to ask about a lighter hammer spring to drop the trigger pull weight, and they said recommended against it.\u00a0 They explained these guns are meant for close in shooting, and while a lighter hammer spring may drop the trigger pull weight, it may also make it so the hammer will not drop with enough force to reliably strike the firing pin \/ primer.\u00a0 I opted to keep it stock as a result.<\/p>\n

Recoil was pretty stout for an all-steel pistol.\u00a0 This is because the barrel of the Walther is fixed to he frame of the PPK, whereas pistols such as LCP use a floating barrel that sits inside the slide assembly.\u00a0 This translates recoil a bit more abruptly to the shooter\u2019s hand, unlike a design like the Ruger.<\/p>\n

Accuracy was difficult to judge for the little PPK.\u00a0 The first shot double action was difficult to be accurate, however, everything after that was fired single action and was pure silk smooth.\u00a0 Three to four inch groups were the norm slow fire, even with the long and nasty first trigger pull.<\/p>\n

The Ruger fired well, but recoil was also noticeable since it is such a light gun.\u00a0 I definitely wouldn\u2019t call this a gun for lengthy sessions at the range.\u00a0 I qualify with mine once a year, and practice a few times in between those shoots \u2013 that\u2019s plenty.\u00a0\u00a0 After about 100 rounds, my hand is a little tired.\u00a0 Partly from recoil, and partly from the tedious way I have to hold the gun because it\u2019s so small.<\/p>\n

Accuracy was outstanding for the Ruger, being such a small pistol with very rudimentary sights.\u00a0 I can put everything in a 2-3 inch pattern at 7 yards during slow fire.\u00a0 The down side is that since this is such a small pistol, I had to grip the gun very deliberately to make sure I had my finger on the trigger correctly.\u00a0 Otherwise I had too much of my finger on the trigger and would \u201cpush\u201d the shots to the left.<\/p>\n

While the Walther will lock back on an empty chamber, the Ruger will not, so you need to count your shots to be ready to reload.\u00a0 If not, you need to be ready to reload as soon as you hear that deafening \u201cclick\u201d and rack the slide.<\/p>\n

I shot both with 95 FMJ ball, 102gr Remington Golden Saber and 95gr Hornady Critical Defense.\u00a0 I had one slight hiccup with the Golden Sabers on the Ruger, but I have fired dozens of those rounds through the gun, so I would normally chalk that up as a fluke.\u00a0 Both gave good accuracy as I mentioned before.\u00a0 Definitely up to par for self defense shooting.<\/p>\n

And the Winner Is\u2026<\/strong><\/h2>\n

The guns are two different examples of eras over 75 years apart.\u00a0 Yet both offer something.\u00a0 Both can be had for anywhere from $300 to $550, and both were reliable with all types of ammunition used.\u00a0 I really believe both have something to offer to today\u2019s shooter.<\/p>\n

The Ruger wins hands-down for its ability to drop into a pocket without notice.\u00a0 It is thinner and lighter than the Walther by a fair margin.\u00a0 Not to mention Ruger makes fine, reliable, and durable firearms.\u00a0 In going for the concealed carry market, they hit a home run with this gun.<\/p>\n

The Walther has some things going for it as well.\u00a0 It has better sights, the slide lock-back on an empty chamber, and the ability for a single action trigger pull.\u00a0 For those who want a manual safety the Walther comes with one.<\/p>\n

I have to say, if I had to go with just one, it would be the Walther.\u00a0 To me, there is just something about a steel pistol; call me a traditionalist, but I know a few PPK\u2019s from WWII that still work.\u00a0 But either way, both would be good choice for a .380 as a concealed carry weapon.<\/p>\n

Ruger:
\n<\/strong>https:\/\/www.ruger.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n

Smith and Wesson:
\n<\/strong>https:\/\/www.smith-wesson.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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