{"id":50380,"date":"2016-01-14T12:13:27","date_gmt":"2016-01-14T17:13:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=50380"},"modified":"2016-01-14T12:13:27","modified_gmt":"2023-08-19T07:01:16","slug":"news-stations-concealed-carry-drill","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/news-stations-concealed-carry-drill\/","title":{"rendered":"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><object><\/object><\/p>\n<p>We all know that good guys with guns can stop bad guys with guns. Perhaps the better question is, how reliably can good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns, specifically in \u201cactive shooter\u201d scenarios?<\/p>\n<p>Well, a north Texas news station, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wfaa.com\/story\/news\/2016\/01\/11\/ready-aim-truth-how-prepared-good-guys-protect-themselves-and-others-part-1\/78655818\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"news-stations-concealed-carry-drill\" title=\"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers\">WFAA,<\/a> decided to put some concealed carriers to the test to see how they\u2019d perform in various simulations. The four volunteers had different levels of experience and training. They were:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Brian Martin, 30, of Lewisville, who has 10 hours of training<\/li>\n<li>Matthew Beeman, 41, of Denton County, who has six hours of training<\/li>\n<li>Mary Bannan, 67, of Lantana, who has 25 hours of training<\/li>\n<li>Royce Hardin, 68, of Lantana, who has the most experience &#8212; 50 hours of training<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The drills were being supervised by Travis Bond, who manages <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dfwshooters.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"news-stations-concealed-carry-drill\" title=\"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">DFW Shooters Academy in Highland Village<\/a>. Bond is an instructor with over 30 years of training and law enforcement experience.<\/p>\n<p>The armed assailant in each drill was Shaw Clary, a SWAT officer and tactical instructor with 22 years on the job. During each simulation, Clary carried an AR-15 converted to shoot plastic pellets.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_50384\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"news-stations-concealed-carry-drill\" title=\"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-50384\" title=\"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-50384\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter-400x300.jpg\" alt=\"A look at the armed assailant., Shaw Clary, who is a SWAT team member.\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter.jpg 534w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-50384\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A look at the armed assailant., Shaw Clary, who is a SWAT team member.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Aside from the fact that they knew they\u2019d confront a bad guy with a gun, participants were not given much info about each situation. They were pretty much flying blind. And they did not know that Clary would be wearing body armor, so that in order to neutralize his attack they\u2019d have to score a hit to the head, neck or pelvis.<\/p>\n<p>In the first scenario, the \u201cbusy office setting,\u201d the good guys were placed in the fourth cubicle from the doorway. When the bad guy \u2014 a disgruntled employee \u2014 enters the room he fires off a few shots and then begins to kill workers. The good guys had to decide whether they would open fire, bunker down under a desk or attempt to flee the scene.<\/p>\n<p>All opted to open fire. Though not all stayed put in the cubicle. Upon hearing shots, Beeman exited his cubicle and took cover in a darkened area. He then opened fire on the suspect. The other three fired from their original position in the cubicle.<\/p>\n<p>In total, two of the four \u2014 Martin and Beeman \u2014 fired shots that would have neutralized the target while Bannan and Hardin did not though Hardin claimed that he purposely avoided shooting the bad guy in the head because it was just a simulation.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI shot him in the vest on purpose,\u201d Hardin said afterward. \u201cI didn\u2019t want to hit him in the head, because it wasn\u2019t real life to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In the second scenario, the \u201ccrowded conference room\u201d the gunman entered, told everyone to put their hands on their head and then began to execute the captives one by one. Once again, the participants had to decide how to respond.<\/p>\n<p>Hardin complied with the initial directive to put his hands on his head. Yet, when the opportunity arose, he took his hands down, drew his gun and fired successfully at the target.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_50385\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"news-stations-concealed-carry-drill\" title=\"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-50385\" title=\"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-50385\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter2-400x300.jpg\" alt=\"A look at the first scenario, in the busy office setting.  \" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter2-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter2-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/ActiveShooter2.jpg 540w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-50385\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A look at the first scenario, in the busy office setting.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Bannan, who had struggled with accuracy in the first scenario, also waited for the right moment to open fire. However, once again, she failed to land a kill shot.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cShe fired a lot of shots, but she didn\u2019t hit me until well after I had hit her,\u201d Clary said. \u201cThe only thing was her marksmanship. She didn\u2019t hit me, but she kept shooting, which was good.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Like in the first scenario, Beeman performed well in the crowded conference room. He hit Clary in the arm and head.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe did a good job,\u201d Clary said. \u201cPlus, his weapon was concealed, so I didn\u2019t know he was a threat.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When it came time for Martin\u2019s turn, he made a fatal mistake, at least in the eyes of the instructor. He chose to open carry his pistol, which made him a prime target for the bad guy.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you want to take that as an open carry kind of scenario, that\u2019s exactly what I would have done as a bad guy coming in,\u201d Clary explained. \u201cI saw that he was armed \u2014 he\u2019s my first target.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Martin, who typically carries concealed, said with respect to his decision to open carry, \u201cI feel like that probably did escalate the scenario quicker than I would have liked.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So, in the end, it was another 50 percent success rate with two of the four neutralizing the target.<\/p>\n<h2>Takeaways<\/h2>\n<p>This was only part 1 of a two-part experiment. But I think there are some important takeaways. For starters, training \u2014 not just on the range but in high-stress, real-life environments \u2014 is critically important.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_50382\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/CrowdedConferenceRoom.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"news-stations-concealed-carry-drill\" title=\"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-50382\" title=\"News Station Uses \u2018Active Shooter\u2019 Drills to Test Concealed Carriers\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-50382\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/CrowdedConferenceRoom-400x267.jpg\" alt=\"The crowded conference room, scenario 2.  \" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/CrowdedConferenceRoom-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/CrowdedConferenceRoom-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/CrowdedConferenceRoom.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-50382\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The crowded conference room, scenario 2.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>As Travis Bond said, \u201cBy going through the training and experiencing different things \u2014 and specifically looking for opportunities to engage, and knowing when not to engage \u2014 is as important as anything.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There is no substitute for combat experience, but the closer one can get to mimicking those real-life scenarios in training, the better. In short, static training at a calm and tranquil range will only raise your skill level so much. One needs to practice force-on-force.<\/p>\n<p>Another takeaway is 50\/50 odds (the success rate of the good guys in both scenarios) of taking down a killer are better than no odds at all. In other words, some armed resistance is always better than no armed resistance. Maybe the good guy with the gun will not always kill the bad guy with the gun, as we saw in both scenario 1 &amp; 2, but the capacity to take down an assailant can make all the difference. Even the most rabid anti-gunner knows deep down that it is better to have a gun in these situations than not have a gun.<\/p>\n<p>Age, gender, weapon type? Are these determining factors in how well one responds to an armed assailant? It\u2019s too small of a sample size to make any concrete conclusions. But it would be interesting to see a larger study examining whether one\u2019s age, gender or weapon type makes a difference.<\/p>\n<p>What are your thoughts about the experiment? \u00a0And do you partake in any force-on-force training?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We all know that good guys with guns can stop bad guys with guns. 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