{"id":37843,"date":"2015-05-30T09:10:44","date_gmt":"2015-05-30T13:10:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/?p=37843"},"modified":"2015-05-30T09:10:44","modified_gmt":"2023-08-18T18:38:02","slug":"author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\/","title":{"rendered":"Author Responds to Claim that &#8216;Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_37807\" style=\"width: 250px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/WcEQlsCC.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-37807\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\" class=\"size-full wp-image-37807\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/WcEQlsCC.jpeg\" alt=\"Jennifer Carlson, author of the book &quot;Citizen-Protectors: The Everyday Politics of Guns in an Age of Decline.&quot;\" width=\"240\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/WcEQlsCC.jpeg 240w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/WcEQlsCC-150x150.jpeg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-37807\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jennifer Carlson, author of the book &#8220;Citizen-Protectors: The Everyday Politics of Guns in an Age of Decline.&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>When I read Jennifer Carlson\u2019s op-ed in the Los Angeles Times, entitled, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/opinion\/op-ed\/la-oe-carlson-gun-carry-culture-20150526-story.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cWhy Men Feel the Need to Carry Guns,\u201d<\/a> I was surprised by her apparent argument, which I oversimplified i<a href=\"\/blog\/la-times-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">n a response piece I wrote<\/a> in the following way, \u201cyour reason for carrying a firearm is not rooted in practical self-defense, rather you carry because you\u2019re compensating for your inability to bring home the bacon on a consistent basis.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Carlson\u2019s point about why men feel the need to carry is way more comprehensive\u00a0than the way I originally interpreted it. I know that now because I had the chance to ask Carlson, a sociology professor at the University of Toronto, a few questions, not only about her LA Times op-ed but also about her book, \u201cCitizen-Protectors: The Everyday Politics of Guns in an Age of Decline.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Below is our Q&amp;A:<\/p>\n<p><strong>S.H. Blannelberry:<\/strong><em> Let\u2019s start at the beginning and ask the obvious, why guns? Of all the things to study and research, what sparked you to examine the gun community?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jennifer Carlson:<\/strong> I grew up in a very conservative family and spent my childhood mostly in the Midwest. For that reason, I have a different relationship with conservative politics and what some people derisively call \u201cfly over\u201d country than most other sociologists.<\/p>\n<p>My family, however, wasn\u2019t a gun-owning family.<\/p>\n<p>I ended up getting personally interested in learning how to shoot a gun about the same time I decided I wanted to learn how to ride a motorcycle &#8211; it wasn\u2019t political (I was living in California at the time, after all), just something I thought I should learn how to do. I started hearing about a few groups that seemed to go against the \u201chillbilly with a gun\u201d stereotype &#8211; the Pink Pistols, the Second Amendment Sisters, etc., right about the same time that Obama got elected and people started getting really politicized over guns.<\/p>\n<p>At this point, I figured there would be a lot of sociologists who had already spent a lot of time interviewing and hanging out with gun-carrying Americans. But I was wrong &#8211; there was actually very little in the way of research that involved scholars going out and talking to gun owners, much less gun carriers. So, that\u2019s when I realized this was what I wanted to study, and I headed to Michigan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>S.H. Blannelberry:<\/strong> <em>In your LA Times op-ed, you said that men carry firearms to address \u201csocial insecurities,\u201d can you elaborate on this point?<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_37855\" style=\"width: 379px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/S_compensating0818.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-37855\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\" class=\"size-full wp-image-37855\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/S_compensating0818.jpg\" alt=\"I carry\" width=\"369\" height=\"384\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/S_compensating0818.jpg 369w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/S_compensating0818-144x150.jpg 144w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/S_compensating0818-288x300.jpg 288w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 369px) 100vw, 369px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-37855\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The picture of Oleg Volk that Ms. Carlson was referring to.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Jennifer Carlson:\u00a0<\/strong>Certainly. Unfortunately, this point has been understood to imply some kind of inferiority complex &#8211; as if men are \u201covercompensating\u201d for something by carrying guns. I like to think of the picture by Oleg Volk that says \u201cGun owners are compensating for something &#8211; we are compensating for having children who need protection.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Joking aside, my much-misunderstood point is this (as I wrote on my <a href=\"https:\/\/jdawncarlson.com\/2015\/05\/28\/and-this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">blog<\/a>): there\u2019s been a collapse in the American dream \u2013 and yes, that collapse has been felt more by men because they have been hit the hardest by the economic collapse. But its far beyond just income \u2013 or just crime. It\u2019s about believing in the promise of upward mobility, of having faith that your neighborhoods are safe and that your neighbors will help you out if you need it, and all the other kinds of things often associated with \u201cMayberry America.\u201d I spoke to over five dozen gun carriers, and in virtually all of my conversations with men, responsibility and duty to family was a huge factor shaping why they found it important to carry guns, across the board, regardless of race or other background. And yes, I found that socioeconomic insecurity framed how men talked about their turn to guns \u2013 especially if they lived in Detroit or Flint or their outskirts. That\u2019s not to say that people can\u2019t own or carry guns for other reasons (obviously they do), but when someone is on the fence, seeing the American dream slip from their reach, seeing their community crumble around them, seeing police defunded, seeing the cracks in the sidewalk get bigger and bigger, seeing crime persist despite the overall \u201ccrime drop\u201d \u2013 all of this can have an impact on how secure people feel in their communities and how appealing carrying a gun might be.<\/p>\n<p><strong>S.H. Blannelberry:<\/strong> <em>How do you define the titular character in your book, \u201cCitizen-Protectors: The Everyday Politics of Guns in an Age of Decline?\u201d What are the characteristics of the citizen protector?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jennifer Carlson:\u00a0<\/strong>I use this term to describe what most gun carriers would call a \u201cSheepdog mentality\u201d &#8211; the \u201ccitizen-protector\u201d is someone willing to use lethal force to defend innocent life, and it extends beyond just the right to self protection to a duty to protect. I argue that in an era of concealed carry, where over 11 million Americans have licenses to carry guns, this is an increasingly important part of what it means to be a citizen in the contemporary American context.<\/p>\n<p><strong>S.H. Blannelberry:<\/strong> <em>What surprised you most about studying gun owners?<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_37856\" style=\"width: 240px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/2Q.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-37856\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\" class=\"size-full wp-image-37856\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/2Q.jpg\" alt=\"The book cover to &quot;Citizen Protectors: Gun Ownership in the Age of Decline.&quot; \" width=\"230\" height=\"346\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/2Q.jpg 230w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/2Q-100x150.jpg 100w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/2Q-199x300.jpg 199w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 230px) 100vw, 230px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-37856\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The book cover to &#8220;Citizen-Protectors: The Everyday Politics of Guns in an Age of Decline.&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Jennifer Carlson:\u00a0<\/strong>Two things in particular come to mind.<\/p>\n<p>First, I was surprised by the racial dynamics of gun carriers. I went into this project assuming I\u2019d be talking almost exclusively to white men, as that is who is usually featured as the prototypical gun owner\/carrier in the media and in scholarship on guns. However, there is a vibrant African American pro-gun community in Detroit, as NPR recently covered, and the rates of CPL licensing for whites versus African Americans are actually on par.<\/p>\n<p>Second, I was surprised about the attitudes of public law enforcement. In the 1990s, various police organizations mounted a huge campaign in support of the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban. I\u2019m not sure if that provides an accurate picture of the \u201crank and file\u201d officers at that time, but today, it certainly doesn\u2019t hold water in Metro Detroit. Police &#8211; including Chief James Craig &#8211; seem to be extremely in favor of law-abiding citizens exercising their right to self-defense.<\/p>\n<p><strong>S.H. Blannelberry:<\/strong> <em>There is a stereotype that the vast majority of gun owners are old, fat white guys. In terms of demographics, what did your research tell you about this stereotype?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jennifer Carlson:\u00a0<\/strong>There are of course the old, fat white guys who love their guns. And the majority of gun owners are white men &#8211; that is a demographic fact. But pro-gun American is far more complex than the \u201cbubba with a shotgun\u201d stereotype, and I think those stereotypes especially break down when you look at gun carriers. My book opens up with two stories &#8211; one about a white Democrat who voted for Obama, got a concealed pistol license, and ended up involved in a justifiable homicide in his store, the other about a conservative African American open carrier who sees himself as a role model for other Detroit men. I picked those stories because they challenge what we think about gun carriers, and they pull us away from the stereotypes that are too often used to close the debate rather than open it up.<\/p>\n<p><strong>S.H. Blannelberry:<\/strong> <em>After getting to know gun owners, and training and shooting yourself, what are your thoughts about the current gun control debate. Specifically, where do stand on policy measures such as universal background checks and bans on \u201cassault weapons\u201d?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jennifer Carlson:\u00a0<\/strong>I think its important to distinguish between studying gun culture and studying gun policy. Too often, we have \u2018arm chair policy analysts\u2019 who pontificate about policies without understanding that passing a law is not the same as changing how guns are regulated, or not, in this country. And that goes for people on both sides of this debate. I believe we need much better and more careful analysis of how gun policy actually works on the ground.<\/p>\n<p>So, when you ask about policy measures, my immediate questions are: how will this be implemented? what infrastructure is in place? who is funding it? how will we make sure that people with disqualifying issues don\u2019t slip through the cracks &#8211; but also that people aren\u2019t punished for poorly kept or mistaken records? My latest research actually looks at these questions \u2014 in Fall 2014, I spent five months in Michigan\u2019s county \u201cgun boards\u201d and collected over 900 cases on what gun policy looks like \u201cin action.\u201d I saw people with arrests from the 1950s and 1960s denied licenses without providing the appropriate paperwork &#8211; which is pretty hard to get 50+ years after the fact. I saw people hold on to their licenses despite being served PPOs because the gun boards were so slow in processing the paperwork. And I saw gun board revoke licenses because they simply thought the person didn\u2019t really \u201cneed\u201d a gun &#8211; despite operating under a \u201cshall-issue\u201d framework. Needless to say, I saw a lot \u201con the ground\u201d that did not conform with how gun policy is supposed to look \u201con the books.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m still going through these data, but at this point, I\u2019ll say this. I think there\u2019s a lot of wisdom in the mantra that we need to enforce &#8211; and in some cases, fix &#8211; the laws we have before we rush to pass new ones.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s an interview Jennifer did about a year ago on mass shootings:<\/p>\n<p>Big thanks to Ms. Carlson for taking the time to chat with us. Regardless of what you think of her findings or opinions on gun ownership, you have to respect and applaud the effort. \u00a0She certainly walked the walk!<\/p>\n<p>You can purchase her book right here on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0199347557\/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p14_d1_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=desktop-1&amp;pf_rd_r=0SH2REY4RQR01K7AMPCF&amp;pf_rd_t=36701&amp;pf_rd_p=2079475242&amp;pf_rd_i=desktop\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"author-responds-to-claim-that-men-carry-guns-to-address-social-insecurities\" title=\"Author Responds to Claim that 'Men Carry Guns to Address Social Insecurities'\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why do men carry firearms? 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