{"id":254203,"date":"2026-07-27T14:24:48","date_gmt":"2026-07-27T19:24:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/?p=254203"},"modified":"2026-07-27T14:51:56","modified_gmt":"2026-07-27T19:51:56","slug":"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\/","title":{"rendered":"Who Needs Prisons? 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Now, at least among some on the political left, the conversation appears to be moving even further.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Forget defunding police.  Why not abolish prisons altogether?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That question found its way into the national spotlight a few weeks ago after New York City mayor Zohran Mamdani was asked about his endorsement of <a href=\"https:\/\/justicedemocrats.com\/candidate\/darializa-avila-chevalier\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\">Darializa Avila Chevalier<\/a>, the Democratic nominee for New York&#8217;s 15th Congressional District. Chevalier has advocated abolishing prisons, and <em>ABC&#8217;s<\/em> Jonathan Karl wanted to know whether Mamdani was comfortable supporting someone with that position.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s a fair question.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After all, prisons exist for a reason. Society generally agrees that people who commit murder, rape, <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/armed-robbers-target-man-leaving-gun-range\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\" data-wpil-monitor-id=\"7305\">armed robbery<\/a>, child abuse, and other violent crimes should be separated from the public. Whether prison sentences are too long, too short, or in need of reform is one debate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Whether prisons should exist at all is another.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Mamdani on how abolishing prisons is consistent with the &quot;Politics of Life&quot;\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/sqPB3aMK6VI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-yoast-seo-table-of-contents yoast-table-of-contents\"><h2>Table of contents<\/h2><ul><li><a href=\"#h-a-question-without-an-answer\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\" data-level=\"2\">A Question Without an Answer<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-so-what-happens-next\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\" data-level=\"2\">So&#8230;What Happens Next?<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-a-debate-moving-into-the-mainstream\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\" data-level=\"2\">A Debate Moving Into the Mainstream?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-a-question-without-an-answer\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Question Without an Answer<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Karl gave Mamdani multiple opportunities to address the issue directly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Instead, Mamdani praised Chevalier&#8217;s focus on what he described as a &#8220;politics of life,&#8221; saying she campaigned on investing in working families and poor communities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When Karl followed up by asking how abolishing prisons fit into that message, Mamdani again pivoted to economic issues instead of addressing the policy itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Karl wasn&#8217;t satisfied.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;So, we can disagree on something as basic as whether or not there should be prisons?&#8221; he asked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mamdani&#8217;s response did little to clarify where he stands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;There are prisons,&#8221; he replied. &#8220;And what we&#8217;re also showing in this city is that safety is not something that&#8217;s up for debate. It&#8217;s something that we&#8217;re actually delivering.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/marty-hayes-a-good-shoot-isnt-a-good-shoot-until-a-prosecutor-says-so\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\" data-wpil-monitor-id=\"7306\">interview ended without Mamdani saying<\/a> whether he personally supports abolishing prisons or whether he believes Chevalier is wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-so-what-happens-next\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">So&#8230;What Happens Next?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s where the obvious questions begin.  If prisons disappear, what replaces them?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>What happens to someone convicted of murder?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Where does a serial rapist go?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How does society deal with repeat violent offenders who continue hurting innocent people?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What consequences exist for someone who commits an armed carjacking, a <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/ep-33-should-i-shoot-the-late-night-prowler\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\" data-wpil-monitor-id=\"7304\">home invasion<\/a>, or a terrorist attack?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Those aren&#8217;t rhetorical talking points. They&#8217;re practical questions any proposal to abolish prisons would eventually have to answer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Supporters of prison abolition generally argue that incarceration should be replaced with investments in housing, education, <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/colion-noir-dan-osborn-ar15-mental-health-exam\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\" data-wpil-monitor-id=\"7308\">mental health<\/a> treatment, addiction services, and restorative justice programs. They contend many crimes stem from poverty, trauma, or untreated mental illness and that addressing those root causes would reduce incarceration over time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But even many Americans who support criminal justice reform draw a line when it comes to violent offenders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The overwhelming majority of people serving long prison sentences are not there for low-level drug possession or traffic violations. They&#8217;re there because they <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/concealed-carriers-rarely-commit-crimes-finds-illinois-i-team-report\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"who-needs-prisons-democrats-abolish-prisons\" title=\"Who Needs Prisons? Democrats Flirt With a Once-Unthinkable Idea\" data-wpil-monitor-id=\"7307\">committed crimes<\/a> that juries, judges, and victims&#8217; families believed warranted removing them from society.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-a-debate-moving-into-the-mainstream\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Debate Moving Into the Mainstream?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For years, proposals like abolishing prisons were largely confined to academic circles and activist organizations.  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