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In an opinion piece on Saturday<\/a>, The NY Post<\/em> Editorial Board voiced concern about the outcome of a case<\/a> currently before the Supreme Court challenging the state\u2019s restrictive concealed-carry standard. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThe last thing New York needs is for every Tom, Dick and Harriet on the street to be carrying,\u201d lamented the Board in the column.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The high court is expected to issue its ruling in the coming weeks and the Board is worried a majority decision will nix New York\u2019s \u201cproper cause\u201d requirement that forces gun owners to provide to the state a specific reason on why they need to bear arms in public.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Under current law, a judge or CLEO can arbitrarily deny a law-abiding citizen a permit on the grounds that their \u201cproper cause\u201d for bearing arms isn\u2019t satisfactory.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

While the gun community is nearly unanimous in its belief that may-issue schemes like New York\u2019s are unconstitutional, several justices on the bench, apparently, are also on board.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cYou don\u2019t have to say, when you\u2019re looking for a permit to speak on a street corner or whatever, that, you know, your speech is particularly important,\u201d observed Chief Justice John Roberts during the oral arguments last Fall.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cSo why do you have to show \u2014 in this case, convince somebody \u2014 that you\u2019re entitled to exercise your Second Amendment right?” Roberts asked.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trump-appointee Justice Brett Kavanaugh also poked holes in the legal rationale behind the law. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cWhy isn\u2019t it good enough to say I live in a violent area, and I want to be able to defend myself? With any constitutional right, if it\u2019s up to the discretion of an individual officer, that seems inconsistent with an objective constitutional right,\u201d he said.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Post’s<\/em> Editorial Board sees the writing on the wall, hence their concern.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThe Supremes can \u2014 must \u2014 let New York protect itself, whether by simply upholding New York\u2019s law, or, if they find it unconstitutionally broad (as seems likely based on their questioning during the case), ordering modest tweaks. One possibility: Grant the state the right to limit public spaces where guns are allowed,\u201d it writes.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

SEE ALSO: Remember That Time When Biden Openly Embraced the Firearm Industry: \u2018You guys are doing a lot of good things\u2026 I mean it.\u2019<\/a><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

\u201cBut forcing New York to let anyone at all carry a firearm anywhere they want, no questions asked, is a recipe for disaster,\u201d the Board concluded.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Board is wrong.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

First off, even if the may-issue system is declared unconstitutional, prohibited persons — felons, minors, domestic abusers, drug addicts, fugitives from justice, mental defectives — will still be banned from possessing firearms under federal law. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Second, permissive concealed-carry standards, like shall-issue and constitutional carry, are not a recipe for \u201cdisaster.\u201d\u00a0 Half the country has adopted constitutional carry<\/a>, the most permissive standard there is as it allows citizens to carry concealed without a government-issued permit. \u00a0Not one state has descended into chaos as a result. \u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In fact, one recent study<\/a> looking at crime data in 13 states four years prior to the enactment of constitutional carry and six years after it rolled found no statistically significant change in violent crime, police killings, and firearm homicide \u2014 and a drop in the murder rate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As for the point about guns everywhere in the city, sadly, that is already the case as it relates to the most violent and dangerous criminals out there, as Justice Samuel Alito alluded to in his questioning during the oral arguments.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cHow many illegal guns were seized by the New York Police Department last year? All these people with illegal guns, they\u2019re on the subway, they\u2019re walking around the streets,\u201d Justice Alito said. \u201cBut the ordinary, hard-working, law-abiding people I mentioned, no, they can\u2019t be armed?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, they can\u2019t.  Not without the state\u2019s permission.  But to the chagrin of The NY Post <\/em>Editorial Board, one can expect that to change in the very near future.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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