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As I am writing this, most of the country has been quarantined, ordered to stay home due to the Coronavirus outbreak. Food has been in short supply in some places, as have other household items. At the same time, there has been a massive run on firearms and ammunition as people are uncertain about what happens next. The ammunition shelves are pretty bare and most mail order places are sold out of the common calibers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

With everyone stuck at home, and the supply channels short of ammunition, a lot of folks are turning to reloading. However, for most 7.62x39mm shooters, reloading normally hasn\u2019t been that attractive of an option. Reloading 7.62×39 hasn\u2019t really been cost-effective with inexpensive Russian ammo available. There are options for higher quality ammunition as well, without having to reload it. At this moment in time, however, there is very little 7.62x39mm ammo to be had. So right now, if you want to shoot your 7.62x39mm rifle, you either have to shoot ammo you already have (knowing that it could be a while before you can obtain more) or you have to find a way to reload for it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The biggest issue to reloading 7.62x39mm is that of casings. Kalashnikovs were not designed with reloading ammunition in mind, and as such can be very hard on casings. They also tend to fling them far enough upon ejection to make the loss of some inevitable (I\u2019m convinced the astronauts in the international space station can hear them bouncing off the side). <\/p>\n\n\n\n

In addition, a lot of commercially available 7.62x39mm ammo is Berdan Primed and hence the casings you are likely to find lying on the ground at your local range are as well. Berdan primers are usually about like unicorns, everyone has heard of them, but no one seems to have actually seen any. They are not commonly used in the US. While it is possible to convert Berdan primed cases to the readily available boxer primers, most folks have decided it\u2019s probably not worth the effort. Since you\u2019re reasonably likely to lose the casings you put that extra work into, that\u2019s not an unreasonable conclusion. Add to all of that the relatively high cost of brass, boxer-primed 7.62×39 casings (when compared to .223 casings for example) and it\u2019s not too hard to see why a lot of shooters usually buy cheaper imported ammo rather than reloading this caliber.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The main problem in reloading steel cases for 7.62×39 has always been that they are Berdan primed. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

That brings us to today\u2019s topic: Reloading Steel Cased 7.62×39. If you reload for military calibers, you\u2019ve likely already asked about and been told two things: You can\u2019t reload Berdan primed casings, and you can\u2019t reload steel casings. Today, I\u2019m going to show you that both are quite possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The current ammunition situation is not really that unusual\nan event. Recently it seems as though there is a major shortage of ammunition\nevery few years, brought on by public concerns of one thing or another. So\nafter weathering a few of these \u201cstorms\u201d, I started looking for ways to load\n7.62x39mm affordably so that I could keep shooting even if factory ammunition\nwas completely unavailable for a while. As I mentioned earlier, steel casings\nfrom Russian produced 7.62x39mm ammunition are similar to .22lr casings, in\nthat people either leave them lying on the ground or throw them away. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If you ask anyone who knows me, they\u2019ll tell you that I\nreally don\u2019t like to just throw things away, especially if I can conjure up any\nreason at all that thing might be useful. I even tend to pick up \u201cjunk\u201d from\nother people, if I think it might be useful. So I had a bucket full of 7.62×39\nsteel cases sitting in my reloading room, as I scratched my head trying to come\nup with a way to use them. Berdan primers were not available. I saw a few ideas\non various online forums of ways to use boxer primers in these cases, but\neverything I found had one issue or another. So, I continued on working on a\nload for 7.62×39 with some brass cases and came up with a load using cast\nbullets that was quite affordable and would reliably cycle. At that point, I\nshelved the idea for the time being.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The formerly elusive Berdan primers are currently available. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Fast forward a few years to present, and I decided I\u2019d take a look for some Berdan primers for 7.62×39. I stumbled onto a source, Federal Armament <\/a>(not to be confused with Federal Ammunition-which we\u2019re all familiar with). They have 7.62×39 Berdan primers listed for sale. They only sell them in packs of 5,000, but they are pretty reasonably priced. With these now being available, I had everything I needed to reload those steel cases.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The cases on the left are clean. The cases in the middle have some light rust spots and are still usable. The case on the left is significantly rusted and should be discarded. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

In terms of actually reloading them, there really isn\u2019t that much difference from reloading any other rifle cartridge. The casings need to be cleaned and checked for length, just like you would when reloading brass cases. With steel cases, the main reason (beyond the obvious examples of damaged cases) to discard them is rust. I have not had very many steel casings that need trimming. Then the first thing is to deprime the spent casings. With Berdan primed casings, depriming is a separate step and requires a special tool. I found an RCBS Berdan Decapping Tool at a local shop a few years back. They\u2019re also available from Midsouth Shooters Supply<\/a>. It does require a little bit of practice to use. But once you get the hang of it, it\u2019s pretty easy. The case goes on the rod, and the other tool has a pin and a hinge that grabs the case rim. The pin presses in the old primer and flips it out of the pocket.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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This is how the Berdan Decapping Tool works. I have a shop made tool holding the other part of the tool in the vise, for purposes of taking the picture. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

With the cases deprimed, the next step is to size them. This is just like you would normally, except that the decapping pin must be removed as there is no center primer hole for it to go into. My 7.62×39 die set is made by Lee Precision. The decapping pin is part of the expander rod, so it couldn\u2019t just be removed. I found a couple of extras at a local shop, and just ground the pin off of one. If you happen to have one that\u2019s had the pin broken off (we all do it, eventually), it would work wonderfully for this purpose. I told you I don\u2019t like to throw things away!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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I ground the pin portion off of the expander in the die, as Berdan primed cases do not have a center flash hole. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

While we are on the topic of the reloading dies, one of the commonly held beliefs regarding steel cases is that they\u2019ll wear your dies out prematurely.\u00a0 First, not all steels are the same. The steel used to make steel casings is pretty soft. Whereas the steel used in reloading dies is not. Second is the simple economics of this. The RGB set from Lee is $19.99. The steel cases are essentially free. I haven\u2019t seen any commercially available brass cases for less than about $20 per 100. So you can pay for replacement dies in 100 casings, which you may not even need to do. I\u2019d say that\u2019s worth it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After the cases have been sized, it\u2019s time to prime them. Priming Berdan cases is a little bit different than priming boxer cases. The anvil is part of the case, not in the primer, so it is possible to seat them too deep. If the primer is too deep, you can end up with hang-fires or even duds. So make sure not to seat them in too far. They should be just below the surface of the case head. In the priming process, I had some primers snag the edge of the primer pocket and crumple. The primer pockets are likely crimped. If you lightly chamfer the pocket, you will avoid this problem. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Here are some of the cast bullets I use for this load. The dirty appearance is from the Lee Liquid Alox bullet lube. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Next, you put the powder in the cases and seat the bullets. If you are so inclined, you could use steel casings for regular 7.62x39mm loads. My \u201ccheap\u201d load for 7.62x39mm uses a cast bullet from this Lee Mold<\/a> and a gas check. I chose cast bullets for two reasons: cost, and because I make them. With a lot of reloading components being hard to get right now, I\u2019m sure you can see the value in being able to make your own bullets. When I figured up the cost, it worked out to be about $3.00 a box including the lead for the bullets and cost of the gas checks. I\u2019m not going to get into the finer points of bullet casting here, both for space constraints and to encourage you to do some research on the topic (it\u2019s a whole world unto itself). Because I am using cast bullets, the case mouths need to be chamfered so they don\u2019t chew up the bullets when seating them. I\u2019m not sure if the steel casings would be hard on the chamfer tool I typically use on brass, so I use a countersink intended for steel just to be sure. These are only a couple of dollars and available from a variety of sources. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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I used a chamfer tool intended for steel to chamfer the case mouths. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

 For the powder, I use 17.0 grs of IMR 4198. This load isn\u2019t very much over the starting load. I basically just went high enough that it would reliably cycle in my rifles. Given the nature of most of the weapons in this caliber, you may find that you need to tweak this load slightly to get it to work in your particular rifle. When I checked it with a chronograph, the muzzle velocity was around 1650fps. I haven\u2019t tried it past 100 yards, but I regard this load as more of a plinking or shorter-range load anyway. It did shoot fairly close to point of aim at 100 yards, without re-zeroing my sights from factory ammunition. You can find this load in the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook<\/a> if you\u2019re interested in trying it. With reloading components in short supply at the moment, I should also mention that there are several other powders listed in that manual for this bullet should you not have IMR 4198.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Loaded rounds, ready for the range. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

One of the remarks I got from my friends, when I told them I was playing with this idea a few years back, was \u201cWhy?\u201d Now with most of us stuck at home for a while, and ammo in short supply, I\u2019m not getting that response anymore. If you\u2019re an AK shooter, it\u2019s no big deal if you lose a few of these cases when you shoot. Chances are, there\u2019s a bunch of them lying around anyway, so you could just pick up some more. With reloading components in short supply, this project allows you to use steel cases no one wants, and bullets you can make. When things do eventually get back to normal, (and inexpensive, steel cased, 7.62x39mm ammunition is again available) you can put this idea back on the shelf until you need it again, or you can continue to use it. Either way, save your cases in the meantime. With the way things are in the world today, it\u2019s very possible that being able to reload Berdan primed steel cases could prove to be a very valuable skill to have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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