{"id":121500,"date":"2020-01-14T11:50:48","date_gmt":"2020-01-14T16:50:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/digest\/?p=121500"},"modified":"2020-01-14T11:50:48","modified_gmt":"2023-09-06T10:30:27","slug":"lowdown-on-knockdown-power","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/lowdown-on-knockdown-power\/","title":{"rendered":"The Lowdown on &#8216;Knockdown&#8217; Power (It&#8217;s Not A Real Thing)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" title=\"The Lowdown on 'Knockdown' Power (It's Not A Real Thing)\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/FromThePages_65-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"The Lowdown on 'Knockdown' Power (It's Not A Real Thing)\" class=\"wp-image-121502\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/FromThePages_65-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/FromThePages_65-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/FromThePages_65-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/FromThePages_65-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/FromThePages_65.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Editor\u2019s Note:\u00a0<\/strong><em>The following is a syndicated article by author Ed Combs that first appeared in USCCA\u2019s Concealed Carry Magazine Volume 11, Issue 8, November\/December 2014 under the title, \u201cLowdown on Knockdown.\u201d\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The single most common question I get from new shooters who wish to acquire a sidearm for self-defense is a very general \u201cwhat should I get?\u201d I tell them that in my opinion, the short answer is \u201cthe largest autoloading pistol you can comfortably carry, conceal, and shoot\u201d and that the long answer is \u201cthat depends.\u201d The next question is always about \u201cknockdown,\u201d and I tell them there is no short answer for that one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The other side of that coin is the Knockdown Devotee. I cannot begin to count the number of times someone\u2019s told me\u2014often without my even asking\u2014that they carry a .45 (or a .357 Magnum or a 10mm or a .44) because \u201ceven if I just hit him in the arm, it\u2019ll spin him around and knock him down.\u201d We recently got a Facebook comment asserting that the .38 Special will \u201cflat out knock a man down\u201d\u2014not from personal experience, of course, but we were assured they had it on good authority from a \u201cbig Deputy Sheriff from Oklahoma.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The problem is that though such claims are not categorically\ninaccurate, such claims are also not dissimilar to the intro of the old <em>Superman<\/em>\ntelevision show during which the Man Of Steel grabs the barrel of a villain\u2019s\nrevolver and bends it as if it were made of licorice. (This is because the\nbarrel of said revolver was, in all likelihood, made of licorice.) Though it\nwowed millions of children in the 1950s, there\u2019s a Newtonian physics issue in\nplay: when it comes to physical force, actions result in equal and opposite\nreactions. What this means is that for Superman to bend the barrel of that\nrevolver as depicted, the hand holding the other end would have to be as strong\nor stronger. If not, the much stronger hand would simply twist the gun out of\nthe much weaker hand, ruining the intro and revealing that Superman was really\njust some Standardman in pajamas and a cape.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Before we go any further, though, I\u2019d like to address the elephant\nin the room.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am neither a combat medic nor a trauma surgeon. As such, I am\nnot qualified to comment on the topic of Hydrostatic Shock\u2014the theory that a\nprojectile entering the body at a certain speed transferring a certain amount\nof energy creates a shockwave of sorts that causes remote damage to areas\noutside of the immediate wound channel. The only comments that I can offer are\nthat it sounds like something that could be true and also sounds like something\nthat could be false. I know and respect several individuals who have been in\nthe actual man-killing business who feel the same way. Until evidence agreeable\nto all parties can be isolated, that\u2019s all I\u2019m going to say. What I am\naddressing here is a phrase that I unfortunately hear time and again: \u201cEven if\nI just hit him in the arm, it\u2019ll spin him around and knock him down.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In order to hit an attacker with a projectile that would literally\nspin them around and knock them down, the average concealed carrier would have\nto up their game a bit. Tough part is, most even slightly portable firearms\nthat are capable of doing so went out with the 19th Century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>DANGEROUS GAME<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Before the advent of modern smokeless powder and jacketed bullets,\nmen regularly went out after elephant, rhino, and other such thick-skinned\ndangerous African game with rifles measured in bore rather than caliber. In\nthis context, \u201cbore\u201d referred to the number of lead balls the diameter of the\ngun\u2019s bore required to make a pound, so a 4-bore rifle fired a 4-ounce ball, a\n2-bore rifle fired an 8-ounce ball, etc. This had to be done because before\nsmokeless, the only way to deliver more energy to a target was to just make\neverything bigger\u2014the projectile, the powder load, and the firearm itself.\nComplicating matters, the only bullets available at the time were round or\nconical bare lead slugs, and the pinnacle of available technology was lead\nalloyed with antimony. Even thus modified, it was still difficult to make\nbullets that would not deform under the enormous pressures generated by even\nhigher powder charges, so big and slow was the order of the day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The result was comically enormous firearms that looked like\nbeefed-up double-barreled shotguns (because that\u2019s exactly what they were,\nthough with rifled barrels). Cartridges the size of small thermoses were\ncommon. Regularly weighing over 14 pounds, the physical experience of firing\none even by an experienced professional hunter ranged anywhere from \u201cpunishing\u201d\nto \u201cI now have a nosebleed, a concussion headache, and am facing the opposite\ndirection from when I started.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These rifles fired enormous projectiles at relatively low speeds\nthat were capable of stopping a charging Cape buffalo with a well-placed shot.\nAs such, I am comfortable stating that were you to fire one at a human attacker\nand only hit him in the arm, you might well spin him around and knock him to\nthe ground.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All of this is pointing toward one reality: unless someone tells\nyou that they crossdraw carry a 4-bore in a saddle scabbard under an enormous\novercoat, their claim of being able to spin an attacker and drive him to the\nground with a single shot from their daily CCW firearm is extremely dubious.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, handgun rounds as manstoppers: can a threat be more\neffectively stopped by one round of .357 Magnum or .45 ACP than it can by one\nround of .38 Special or 9mm? You could probably say that history supports that\nargument (and that the associate editor of a gun magazine you read agrees).\nOne-shot knockdowns? I\u2019m here to tell you that they were and are relatively\nuncommon, and when they did and do happen, it usually isn\u2019t because bullet met\nbrain stem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>KNOCKDOWN VS. FALLDOWN<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, this is not to say that no one has ever taken a bullet to an\nextremity and immediately toppled over. Quite the contrary in fact, and in\norder to understand why this happens, all you need to do is watch kids run or\nattend a high school hockey game.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Say two 6-year-olds are playing tag. One is running as hard as she\ncan and as she is doing so, her friend tags her elbow, sending her sprawling\nlike she hit a tripwire. This is one of the many areas in which small children\nat least appear to defy the physical laws of the universe: she was barely\ntouched, so why was the result so catastrophic?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That running child did not fall because of the amount of force\nthat was applied to her elbow. A particularly aggressive raindrop or blade of\ngrass probably could have delivered the same result. She was concentrating on\none thing\u2014\u201c<em>I need to be running as fast as I can right now<\/em>\u201d\u2014and as a\nresult didn\u2019t have any attention to spare on maintaining the inner gyroscope\nthat keeps a more relaxed and attentive person upright. This is how the\n6-year-old falls when her elbow is tagged, but an NFL running back can drive\nhis way through three or four men who are paid handsomely for their acumen in\nthe field of grabbing and smashing other men to the ground.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She wasn\u2019t knocked down\u2026she lost her balance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Along those lines, I played competitive ice hockey for many years.\nThough the most crushing hits in a tournament were usually courtesy of some\nSasquatch from the Iron Range of Minnesota or a Skookum that strayed down out\nof the BC rainforest, every now and then someone would whip through a corner\npast another player and, without warning, appear to be shot sideways out of a\ncannon. Several parents would scream for a penalty that wasn\u2019t going to get\ncalled, and officials would sometimes even have to skate over to the glass and\nexplain to irate moms and dads that there hadn\u2019t been a dirty hit or even a\nquestionable one. What had happened was simple and fairly common: the player\nthat was only now regaining his feet was skating as fast as he could force his\nathletic 17-year-old body to go, touched the toe of one skate blade to the puck\nas it slid under his feet, and basically managed to fall down an entire flight\nof stairs in a third of a second.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He wasn\u2019t knocked down\u2026he lost his balance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So why do we continue to hear these claims of murderous attackers\ndropped like 2-foot putts by cops and private citizens who appear to possess\nsidearms from Thor\u2019s hammer factory?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Like so many discussions on this topic, it comes down to shot\nplacement and what exactly an attacker was doing when a bullet impacted their\nbody. Ask any coroner or Chief of Police: some people get shot with a .22 and\nfall over never to rise again, and some people absorb as many as a dozen or\nmore .45 ACP jacketed hollow-points and survive to fight another day (or spend\na good long hitch in prison). Though the .22 LR is undoubtedly an inferior\nself-defense round when compared to the .45 ACP, neither of them play as large\na role as the mindset of the individual receiving the bullets, placement of\nthose bullets in that individual, or\u2014in the case of that individual keeping\ntheir feet\u2014whether the introduction of those bullets into their body resulted\nin a loss of balance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now for the actual one-shot stops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>POWER OUTAGE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When an attacker is actually dropped with a single shot and they\nneither grunt nor stir\u2014when they receive an immediate or near-immediate mortal\nwound from one shot delivered by a handgun\u2014it is almost invariably a shot\ndelivered to the index-card sized area of the front or back of the head that\nallows access to the brain stem. When this is destroyed, or when enough\ncatastrophic damage is delivered to the brain itself, the central nervous\nsystem is no longer capable of sending any messages to any part of the body and\nthe show\u2019s over. This is basic, this is fundamental, and there isn\u2019t really any\nway of an attacker \u201ctoughing it out\u201d or \u201cjust deciding he\u2019s not going to die\ntoday.\u201d Such feats of human endurance are possible when other tissues are\ndamaged\u2014even the heart or major arteries resulting in monstrous blood loss\u2014but\nas soon as the brain is taken out of the equation, the body will cease\nfunctioning extremely quickly. As it\u2019s often described, it\u2019s like someone cut\nthe string.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Though this is extremely difficult to prove, an acquaintance of\nmine who has served as a County Sheriff, a U.S. Marshal, a Colonel in the U.S.\nArmy, and as an overseas security contractor in war zones has another very\ninteresting theory. He hypothesizes that many of the one-shot stops he\u2019s seen\nor heard about were less likely caused by the impact of the bullets or pellets,\nbut rather by acute stress-induced heart attacks experienced by already\nmedically compromised individuals. In his lines of work, recipients of fire\nwere rarely calm and surprised by their contact, but rather extremely agitated\nand fearfully anticipating the impact of incoming rounds. I don\u2019t know how I\nfeel about this, but I do know that this magazine is read by more than a few\nmedical doctors\u2014let me know what you think.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No one who is versed in armed self-defense will argue against the\n.45 ACP or the .357 Magnum as supremely capable defensive cartridges. I have\ntotal confidence in the .45 automatic that lives in my nightstand and an\nS&amp;W Model 19 .357 Magnum has been my woods gun for more than a decade. I\nlove both cartridges, and I will enthusiastically state their case before any\ncourt in the land.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I merely ask people to cease claiming they\u2019re loaded with magic beans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Discover how you can join nearly 300,000 responsibly armed Americans who already rely on the USCCA to protect their families, futures and freedoms: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uscca.com\/GunsAmerica\" campaign=\"USCCATop5\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\">USCCA.com\/gunsamerica<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-heading\">***<a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/\" campaign=\"BuySellGA_Register\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\">Buy and Sell on GunsAmerica!<\/a>***<\/h2>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So why do we continue to hear these claims of murderous attackers dropped like 2-foot putts by cops and private citizens who appear to possess sidearms from Thor\u2019s hammer factory?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":121502,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_specdata_upc":"","_specdata_placement":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[234,340],"tags":[132,586,127,961],"featured":[],"hunt365":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-121500","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-columns","8":"category-columns-ccw-edc","9":"tag-buzz","10":"tag-column","11":"tag-concealed-carry","12":"tag-uscca"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.1 (Yoast SEO v27.3) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>The Lowdown on &#039;Knockdown&#039; Power (It&#039;s Not A Real Thing)<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"A lot of people claim that their self-defense handgun has real &quot;knockdown&quot; power. 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