{"id":115351,"date":"2020-01-11T20:17:09","date_gmt":"2020-01-12T01:17:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/digest\/?p=115351"},"modified":"2026-10-18T19:15:54","modified_gmt":"2026-10-19T00:15:54","slug":"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\/","title":{"rendered":"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The OSS RAD22 is a 6.2 oz, 5.57 inch flow-through rimfire suppressor that vents gas forward through the muzzle cap. On a KelTec CP33 over several hundred rounds it reduced blowback compared with the baffle cans I had used, kept the pistol cycling, and was still clean and easy to take apart.<\/strong> OSS rates it at 115 to 119 dB with CCI Standard Velocity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Status:<\/strong> OSS is now HUXWRX, which lists the RAD22 as discontinued with limited availability.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Specs and the verdict come first, then the full review.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-yoast-seo-table-of-contents yoast-table-of-contents\"><h2>Table of contents<\/h2><ul><li><a href=\"#h-oss-rad22-specs\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"2\">OSS RAD22 Specs<\/a><ul><li><a href=\"#h-verdict\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"3\">Verdict<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-initial-impression\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"3\">Initial Impression<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-hypothesis-the-rad22-will-stay-cleaner-than-traditional-suppressors\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"3\">Hypothesis: The RAD22 will stay cleaner than traditional suppressors.<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-function-test\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"3\">Function Test<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-final-verdict\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"3\">Final Verdict<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-buy-and-sell-on-gunsamerica-all-local-sales-are-free\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"2\">***Buy and Sell on GunsAmerica! All Local Sales are FREE!*** <\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-faq\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"2\">FAQ<\/a><ul><li><a href=\"#h-is-the-oss-rad22-still-made\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"3\">Is the OSS RAD22 still made?<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-how-much-does-the-oss-rad22-weigh\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"3\">How much does the OSS RAD22 weigh?<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#h-does-the-rad22-stay-cleaner\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\" data-level=\"3\">Does the RAD22 stay cleaner?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-oss-rad22-specs\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">OSS RAD22 Specs<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><thead><tr><th><\/th><th>OSS RAD22<\/th><\/tr><\/thead><tbody><tr><td>Design<\/td><td>Flow Baffle, flow-through<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Materials<\/td><td>Titanium and 17-4 stainless<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Thread<\/td><td>1\/2&#215;28<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Weight<\/td><td>6.2 oz<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Length<\/td><td>5.57 in<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Diameter<\/td><td>1.08 in<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Rating<\/td><td>Full auto 5.7&#215;28 (maker rating)<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Sound (maker)<\/td><td>115 to 119 dB, .22 LR CCI SV; 130 to 133 dB, 8 in 5.7 rifle<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-verdict\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Verdict<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Good:<\/strong> less blowback, cleaner gun and can, tiny and light, simple to strip.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Know this:<\/strong> discontinued, and my test was a few hundred rounds on one host.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Compare current cans in our <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/best-22-suppressors\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\">.22 suppressor rankings<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The host was the <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/the-keltec-cp33-reviewed\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\">KelTec CP33<\/a>; for a current HUXWRX can, read our <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/huxwrx-brings-another-can-to-the-table-ventum-762-reviewed\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\" campaign=\"oss-22lr-suppressor-the-rad22-full-review\" title=\"OSS RAD22 Review: Flow-Through .22 Suppressor\">HUXWRX Ventum 762 review<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/search?keyword=OSS+RAD22\" campaign=\"oss-rad22\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"clickTracking\">&#x1f6d2; Search GunsAmerica for OSS RAD22 listings<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/AF5E8AE7-8973-46C5-8A58-F85F4CAEC96D-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"OSS Redesigns the 22LR Suppressor: The RAD22 Full Review\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are a ton of different 22LR suppressors out there on the market, but all of them have one drawback due to the nature of the cartridge itself: they get extremely dirty. OSS set out to fix that with OSS\u2018s new flow-through 22 caliber suppressor. Because of the unique design of the \u201cFlow Baffle,\u201d the expanding gasses are slowed and routed radially, between the outer tube and the core to then exit out of vent holes at the muzzle. This high-pressure flow carries with it a ton of lead and carbon into the open atmosphere, keeping the inside much cleaner than traditional cans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For this review, I am using a KelTec CP33, a brace adapter (Rehv Arms and Farrowtech), and a Crimson Trace CTS-1000 red dot sight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/5F0B9BAA-3B2F-4352-9A98-19824E5E4292-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"OSS Redesigns the 22LR Suppressor: The RAD22 Full Review\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Braced and suppressed, the KelTec CP33 was the perfect suppressor host for this can.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-initial-impression\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Initial Impression<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When initially examining the RAD22, I noticed just how much thought went into designing it. All of the lines of the suppressor are very clean and elegant, there are no tooling marks that are visible, and it is tiny. I popped this little can open by removing the end cap, and all of the internals slid out into my hand when I turned it over. The tolerance seemed to be extremely low between the outside diameter of the Flow Baffle and the inside diameter of the tube which maximizes the efficiency of this design. The suppressor has a fairly simple design which makes it extremely easy to put back together and hard to get wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/AA87F4E8-AF33-408E-9734-27D21EFA3CD0-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"OSS Redesigns the 22LR Suppressor: The RAD22 Full Review\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Here, you can see one of the three vent holes on the muzzle end of the RAD22. This hole vents gasses forward, reducing the peak pressure inside of the suppressor and blowing lead and carbon through into the open atmosphere.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-hypothesis-the-rad22-will-stay-cleaner-than-traditional-suppressors\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Hypothesis: The RAD22 will stay cleaner than traditional suppressors.<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In theory, the RAD22 will stay cleaner than traditional suppressors because it allows all of the carbon and lead containing gasses to exit through the muzzle end. To test this, I have the perfect host gun: a KelTec CP33. I\u2019ve shot this pistol a ton while it was suppressed utilizing a traditional baffle stack design. The biggest problem was caused by all of the excess blowback into the chamber creating a carbon buildup on the bolt face, and other mechanical interfaces which then rendered the gun unreliable after only a few hundred rounds. I did not experience this kind of problem when shooting un-suppressed, so I attributed this problem to the extra pressure that the suppressor supplied. On top of that, the filthy 22LR cartridge was filling up the can with lead and carbon, which decreased its efficiency and increased weight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/78A4463C-DB64-4B56-B3E6-7702E6798E75-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"OSS Redesigns the 22LR Suppressor: The RAD22 Full Review\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The blasts chamber spacer allows gasses to expand outward and run parallel to the bore, on the outside of the baffle stack.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-function-test\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Function Test<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I expect the RAD22 to reduce the back-pressure and gasses coming back through the chamber when compared to normal cans because of the flow-through technology that OSS utilizes in their \u201cFlow Baffle.\u201d This leads me to believe that the gun will stay cleaner for longer because less lead and carbon will be blown back into action. On top of it all, because of my experience with OSS products in the past, I expect this can to sound good, with a low tone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After my testing, I determined that my hypotheses were true: The can reduced back-pressure when compared to traditional cans, the sound was low toned. Disassembly after several hundred rounds was incredibly easy with the provided multi-tool and a screwdriver (for uncoupling the last two cone baffles.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/CEA88075-492F-421E-B026-5CFFF80A4AF2-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"OSS Redesigns the 22LR Suppressor: The RAD22 Full Review\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The RAD22 is threaded 1\/2\u00d728 and will fit most rimfires.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-final-verdict\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Final Verdict<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After putting several hundred rounds through the RAD22, I found reduced back-pressure on my semi-auto guns when compared to traditional suppressors. This keeps the gun itself cleaner, allowing it to cycle reliably. This technology also keeps the suppressor cleaner, which is very important in a 22lr suppressor because rimfire is notoriously dirty and suppressors designed for them are high maintenance. It is also very important to note that the RAD22 is full-auto rated for 5.7x28mm! With its tiny profile and light-weight coupled with its robustness, the RAD22 was one of the best rimfire cans I had used.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/AF319016-431F-4FF5-9248-326E0E8C14C3-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"OSS Redesigns the 22LR Suppressor: The RAD22 Full Review\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">After the couple hundred rounds that I put through the RAD22, it was still very clean and easy to disassemble.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Specifications<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/DDA841B4-E413-4103-AB0B-C1764B37C9D5-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"OSS Redesigns the 22LR Suppressor: The RAD22 Full Review\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The RAD22 as seen when you open the box. Notice, a disassembly tool is included.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-buy-and-sell-on-gunsamerica-all-local-sales-are-free\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>***Buy and Sell on GunsAmerica! All Local Sales are FREE!*** <\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-faq\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">FAQ<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-is-the-oss-rad22-still-made\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Is the OSS RAD22 still made?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No. HUXWRX lists it as discontinued with limited availability.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-how-much-does-the-oss-rad22-weigh\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">How much does the OSS RAD22 weigh?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">6.2 oz, at 5.57 inches long.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-does-the-rad22-stay-cleaner\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Does the RAD22 stay cleaner?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In my several hundred rounds, both the pistol and the can stayed cleaner than with baffle cans I had used.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Because of the unique design of the &#8220;Flow Baffle,&#8221; the expanding gasses are slowed and routed radially, between the outer tube and the core to then exit out of vent holes at the muzzle. 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