{"id":107733,"date":"2019-04-01T18:01:53","date_gmt":"2019-04-01T22:01:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gunsamerica.com\/digest\/?p=107733"},"modified":"2025-11-07T05:19:52","modified_gmt":"2025-11-07T11:19:52","slug":"hunt365-6-5-creedmoor-vs-300-win-mag","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsamerica.com\/digest\/hunt365-6-5-creedmoor-vs-300-win-mag\/","title":{"rendered":"6.5 Creedmoor vs. 300 Win Mag: Showdown"},"content":{"rendered":"

This may seem like an odd comparison, but I cannot count the number of times I have been in a gun store listening to either the \u201cgun guru\u201d behind the counter, or the \u201cexpert sniper\u201d on the other side talking about how the 6.5 Creedmoor is like a 300 Win Mag without the recoil. \u00a0The 6.5 Creedmoor is also touted as a long range big game caliber like the 300 Win Mag<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"6.5<\/a>

The 6.5 Creedmoor and the 300 Win Mag are often compared as long range cartridges.<\/p><\/div>\n

Let\u2019s dive into the ballistics and see how they compare. \u00a0To keep things fair we will compare both calibers using bullets with the highest ballistic coefficient (BC) that can be pushed to a reasonable velocity. \u00a0Then let\u2019s compare bullets with the highest BC that are recommended for hunting by the manufacturer. We will also use velocities that are obtained with common barrel lengths for each cartridge. <\/span><\/p>\n

For the 300 Win Mag, the load we will use is a Berger 215 Hybrid Target bullet with a G1 BC of .691 and a G7 BC of .354 pushed to a velocity of 2886 fps. \u00a0For the 6.5 Creedmoor, we will look at a Hornady 147 ELD-M with a G1 BC of .697 and a G7 BC of .351 pushed to a velocity of 2700 fps. Each load will be compared at 500 and 1000 yards at an elevation of 2500 ft. and a temperature of 70 degrees with a 100 yard zero. \u00a0This standard for atmosphere and sight in will be used for all data. <\/span><\/p>\n

6.5 Creedmoor\/300 Win Mag<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n\n\n
Range (yrds.)<\/span><\/td>\nDrop (in.)<\/span><\/td>\nDrift 10 mph (in.)<\/span><\/td>\nVelocity (fps)<\/span><\/td>\nEnergy (ft\/lbs.)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
500<\/span><\/td>\n51.4 \/ 43.8<\/span><\/td>\n12.1 \/ 10.8<\/span><\/td>\n2139 \/ 2311<\/span><\/td>\n1494 \/ 2550<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1000<\/span><\/td>\n295.6 \/ 252.3<\/span><\/td>\n54.9 \/ 48.5<\/span><\/td>\n1649 \/ 1806<\/span><\/td>\n887 \/ 1558<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

As you can see the 6.5 Creedmoor falls short of the 300 Win Mag. \u00a0It\u2019s really close. We should also consider recoil and cost to shoot. Let\u2019s look at hunting loads.<\/span><\/p>\n

First, let\u2019s establish some minimum standards for the energy required to take down a deer and an elk. \u00a0For the deer let\u2019s use the longtime standard of a 30-30 Winchester with an average 150-grain flat base bullet at 150 yards, this produces 1000 ft\/lbs of energy. \u00a0For elk let\u2019s use the old standard of a 30-06 firing an average 180-grain bullet at 400 yards which produces 1536 ft\/lbs of energy. I know that there has been game shot at longer distances with each of these cartridges, but those are safe numbers.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"6.5<\/a>

The 30-30 Winchester and 30-06 Springfield have been used for big game hunting for over 100 years. There is a lot of data available on effective range of these two cartridges.<\/p><\/div>\n

A 6.5 Creedmoor with a 143 grain ELD-X bullet going 2700 fps reaches the minimum energy to kill a deer at just over 750 yards, it reaches the minimum energy to kill an elk at 400 yards<\/a>. \u00a0A 300 Win Mag firing a 210 Berger VLD hunting bullet at 2900 fps will have enough energy to kill a deer at past 1200 yards and an elk at just past 900 yards. Obviously, these numbers only take into consideration the energy required and don’t consider whether the shooter is skilled enough or should be shooting those distances.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n
Species <\/span><\/td>\nMax Range 6.5 Creedmoor<\/span><\/td>\nMax Range 300 Win Mag<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Deer (Min Energy 1000 ft\/lbs.)<\/span><\/td>\n750 Yards<\/span><\/td>\n1200 Yards<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Elk (Min Energy 1500 ft\/lbs.)<\/span><\/td>\n400 Yards<\/span><\/td>\n900 Yards<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

These max ranges are based on the energy required and do not take into account the minimum velocity required to expand bullets. \u00a0It also assumes an accurate shooting system (including the shooter) to make long-range first round hits. The 300 Win Mag clearly wins. <\/span><\/p>\n

Does this mean that everyone should sell their 6.5 Creedmoor and get a 300 Win Mag? NO! \u00a0I love the 6.5 Creedmoor and shoot it at long range all the time at targets. I would also not hesitate to take it hunting understanding its limitations. \u00a0The 6.5 Creedmoor was designed to win accuracy contests shooting targets. The cartridge and chamber specs submitted to SAMMI are specified for match accuracy. \u00a0There are a lot of over the counter ammunition and rifle<\/a> options that are inherently accurate at long range. The 300 Win Mag was designed at a time when all manufacturers cared about was high velocity with light bullets so that they could advertise speed. \u00a0Setting one up for long range accuracy means that you pretty much have to have a custom rifle built and hand load for it. <\/span><\/p>\n

Links to the loads used<\/span><\/p>\n

https:\/\/www.hornady.com\/ammunition\/rifle\/6.5-creedmoor-147-gr-eld-match#!\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

https:\/\/www.hornady.com\/ammunition\/rifle\/6-5-creedmoor-143-gr-eld-x-precision-hunter#!\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

https:\/\/www.natchezss.com\/berger-tactical-rifle-ammunition-300-win-mag-215-gr-hybrid-otm-2886-fps-20-ct.html<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

For the hunting load, I assumed that because there is a factory 215 going 2886 fps that the 210 VLD could be pushed to 2900 fps, but it would have to be a hand load. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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