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Are all armed threats created equally? Put another way, would you treat a juvenile with a gun the same way you would treat a man with a gun?
My answer? Why wouldn’t you?
In any event, I raise the question because last Friday three male robbers between the ages of 16 and 20 attempted to steal from a group of people moving into a condo in Aurora, Colorado.
One of the suspects pointed a gun at the movers and demanded money, according to authorities.
Two of the three movers began to comply with the demand, however the third mover, instead of grabbing for his wallet, drew his handgun and opened fire on the suspects, hitting all three.
One of the suspects, a juvenile, was fatally wounded. Another was listed in serious condition. And the third sustained a gunshot wound to the shoulder and is expected to survive.
Police are still investigating the incident. The mover who fired the weapon has been cooperating with authorities. Neither he, the gun owner, nor the other movers have been charged.
A thug is nothing more than a Predator. Whether that Predator is 16 or 56 , they do not have a conscience that will convict them to the fact that their actions are illegal. The only language they understand is violence, only way to Stop a Predator , is end its life..
Yes I would, most of the deadly criminals are juvenile, I do not have time to ask him if he is a juvenile are not. I have come to realize in my home town, the young one’s do more robberies, killings and vandalism then the older kids. Some one has to die so the other kids can live, if they know their friend died trying to rob, they will think twice before they rob
If I can do so without causing any bystander danger, yep. you show me a Barrel in means of harming me, if I can I will take you down regardless of age plain and simply. You do the crime you suffer the consequences.
Hell yes!
Betcher sweet ass, iIF, threatened, I would !!! I served in Vietnam, in 1968-69-70. The Viet-Cong had MANY kids as combatants. First time I was wounded, was by a kid. SO, YES, I would not hesitate to shoot to shoot a JUVENILE,if threatened with a fire arm !!!!!
I agree with most on this part, some of the post are to shoot first and question later. That is all well and good, first off it is probably true that the dead kid probably has a list of priors going back to when he was ten or twelve. Second, situational awareness, situational awareness is of the utmost importance. You can do pretty much any thing and everything you normally do, just be aware of your surroundings. Third, after working for 14 almost 15 years 13 of them in a “Youthful Offender” Institution I can say from first hand knowledge, kids especially aged from 14-19 they are pre-programmed it seems towards instant gratification. I wouldn’t be as messed up as I am had I taken better precautions the day the “kids” decided to riot. It was more gang warfare than a riot, but when you have Miami/Dade on one side with 40-60 kids, and Hillsborough County on the other with the same number…..its a riot. It started we knew it was gonna happen, it was a yearly event it seemed, this time though it got out of hand quicker than normal. Fortunately I had been working out for a year or more and at 230 lbs was well able to handle myself. Except for the part when you get blind sided, I was wrestling with two, a fellow officer was within feet of me when a third participant decided to barge in, the 5 of us went down, my knee went pop and that was it for me for the day, the year and for the past 16 years that I’ve been disabled. I actually worked hurt for ten years, seething inside, and when you have perimeter duty you sit outside in your state vehicle with a Remington model 870 pump and a POS S&W .38 couldn’t even tell you the model number if I wanted to.
But, for those times outside the fence after going through what I went through, I was so hoping one of the little bastards would decide to go over, through, under both 12′ fences topped with razor wire, oh how I wished one of em would. Shoot a 16 year old? In a heart beat, I am getting too old and too effed up to be fighting/wrestling with some little punk bastard that thinks he’s all that. I got news for em…try me.
I’m not taking a chance with my life . You don’t know who they are or what they’ve done but you do know that it’s your life or theirs. I choose my life. You pull it you better use it.
We don’t know what is in the bad guy’s mind when he pulls a gun, do we. Maybe the idiot just has the gun along as a prop and doesn’t intend to really ‘use’ it. On the other hand, maybe the perp doesn’t intend to leave witnesses. For me, it’s my life and I’m going to defend it against any perceived treat. As for these guys, based on the commentary in this article, the shooter is going to jail and/or pay big in civil court. The argument will be that the gunmen made no real threat and if the valuables were handed over the incident would have ended with no loss of life. I could be wrong but after the legal dust settles I bet I’m right!
http://www.guns.com/2013/01/07/man-shot-in-face-had-gun-chose-not-to-use-it/
Aren’t kids the primary killers at the majority of school shootings?
If I precieve a armed threat I will use any and all means to eliminate it. I am an Equal Oppertunity Responder, I don’t care what your race, age, religon, sex or sexual orientation is. BANG, BANG, BANG. I will not ask you to put it down or to think what your doing. BANG, BANG, BANG. I will not second guess what my brain says is a threat to see if the gun is a toy. BANG, BANG BANG. What I precieve is always situational based at that moment.
I have no desire to kill anyone including a criminal. Physically threaten me with great bodily harm or death and I will stop that threat. As a armed BG demands your stuff you had better be executing your actions to kill him as your situational awareness has failed or BGs “surprise” has the advantage. To hesitate in battle is to loose.
if he shoots water from his water gun to me, then the answer is NO. . However, a real bullet is another thing here, if he shoots from a real gun, then wth, he does not belong to the category of no women,no kid anymore, does he?
Was this self defense! Who is the jackass that thinks that a 7 year old with a gun is not a criminal. Go look at africa remember the children army. If someone is capable of lifting a gun and pointing it towards you they should be shot and killed if the victim can defend themselves.
Absolutely I would shoot to KILL, the kid could be 9 years old same thing! Do not forget a guy by the name of Sam Colt, history says ‘God made man, Sam Colt made them equal! It works no matter who the perpetrator is.
Considering I have been attacked and held at gun point while being a juvenile and had to defend myself against a grown man, and do ing so successfully, I would not hesitate to defend myself from a juvenile who had malignant or criminal motives. On top of that age isn’t really that much of a factor, intent and mindset are everything though, and you can have a crazy or violent mindset at a younger age. Now, I wouldn’t haul off and use lethal force against a small child who I thought could be reasonably disarmed, but a 15 year old can be just as lethal as a 30 year old if they can squeeze a trigger. Not to mention the crazy influx of new designer drugs that are on the market, that can make a 14 year old kid stronger than most grown men, throw a firearm in the mix and juveniles could be more dangerous because of a General lack of moral perspective development
If you say you wouldn’t shoot a juvenile, please keep in my that when someone is threatening your life, you don’t have time to check ID’s. Personally, I’m glad the robber is dead. One less repeat offender out there. Armed robbery is not a crime someone decides to take up, so I know the dead robber has prior arrests for violence.
If you say you wouldn’t shoot a juvenile, please keep in my that when someone is threatening your life, you don’t have time to check ID’s. Personally, I’m glad the robber is dead. One less repeat offender out there. Armed robbery is not a crime someone decidesd to take up, so I know the dead robber has prior arrests for violence.