IraqVeteran888 made the following case on X about Hunter Biden, who is now on trial facing three felony gun charges.
Per The AP, the president’s son, a confessed drug addict, is accused of:
- Lying to an FFL
- Making a false claim on a Form 4473 (checking that he wasn’t a user of illegal drugs)
- Unlawfully possessing a firearm for 11 days
You may not like what I’m about to say, but Hunter Biden is innocent. It is not illegal to be a crack head while owning a gun. The form 4473 itself is unconstitutional. Prove a law existed in the days just after 1791 that mandated the storage, ownership, or otherwise transfer of…
— Iraqveteran8888 (@Iraqveteran8888) June 3, 2024
The crime Hunter Biden should be imprisoned for is using his father’s influence to bribe foreign governments for money. The gun charge is a distraction for this far greater crimes.
— Iraqveteran8888 (@Iraqveteran8888) June 3, 2024
Show me a law from 1791 that:
— Iraqveteran8888 (@Iraqveteran8888) June 3, 2024
A. Says any drug is illegal
B. Says you have to get permission from the Government to own a gun and/or explosives…even warships
C. Says a person cannot own a gun if they use any drug, liquor, beer, etc
What are your thoughts? Do you believe Hunter should be convicted? Or do you believe IraqVeteran8888 has a point?
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I agree that the only reason this is happening is to distract from the influence peddling and bribes the Biden family received.
Hunter broke the law multiple times and this is the first time he’s been called to court for it. Sorry Eric, he’s definitely guilty of breaking the law. The argument as to whether that law is constitutional is a fight for another day. Unfortunately, as I’m sure we’ll see, if convicted as he should be, he will either receive no prison time or will be given a token sentence at a white collar “low risk” country club prison where he will quickly be paroled for “good behavior” aka the rich and powerful release program. The same will be the case with Alec Baldwin if he’s convicted.
#FHB. #FJB
Hunter Biden should be convicted of LYING TO THE GOVERNMENT.
Lying to the government….really? Are you serious? At some point we’ve all lied to the government, taxes, etc. Who gives a shit?
You want Hunter to go free because you are a good little Dhimmicrap. Plenty of Conservatives have been convicted of lying to the gubmint even when it wasn’t substantive. Hunter should be in that line. If you have been lying to the gubmint you need to be in that line also.
I got in line like u said and guess who was in front of me…….you Jackass
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You know neither my name nor my face and yet you could identify me in the line of liars who need to be prosecuted. Dhimmicrap projection at its best!!
I actually vote Republican u idiot. It’s just the fact u said he should be convicted for lying to the government and nothing else. Not the fact that he purchased a firearm illegally. It sounded so petty…..that’s all.
Congress is allowed to make laws correct? The President then signs the bills they are in? Then the courts uphold them or toss them? Some of the laws after 1791 don’t contradict the Constitution. We all know that some do and some don’t and then some are upheld under scrutiny that later (or, much later) are thrown out. Are these particular laws in question not constitutional because they were not created using the correct process to become and remain laws? Bruen is a big deal if you read the entire thing. I don’t think anything stands up to it myself. I read it and I think certain laws make sense but to be officially correct the whole system needs to be redone after that decision.
Think of all the people you know who smoke pot/use cannabis products and check the same box on the 4473 that Biden did. We’re talking MILLIONS of decent people. Should they be subject to this as well? Even if pot is legal in the state they purchase the firearm in, it’s still illegal at the federal level. Personally, I don’t like pot, but it kills far fewer people per year than alcohol. This case is like Iraq vet said. It’s smoke and mirrors to help avoid bringing light to much larger crimes. Better he does a bit of time for the 4473 gig than the life sentences him and his father would receive if there was a serious investigation on his past foreign employment opportunities. Again…smoke and mirrors.
Personally, I think Hunter AND his dad are a waste of good human flesh. It’s definitely arguable as to whether or not mentioning drugs on the 4473 form violates our constitutional rights, but the fact of the matter is the way the law is written currently, he absolutely violated the law and should be punished. Sadly, at the very most he will get a slap on the wrist and an ass-chewing by his liberal soft-on-crime judge – or nothing at all.
IRAQVETERAN888 has a valid point about the laws from 1791 but we’re not living in 1791. Times change and so do the people, unfortunately we need certain protections for the general population, like felons can’t own or possess firearms. Don’t take this the wrong way either. I do not believe in big government, but unfortunately, it’s what we have and for the most part our laws are actually meant to protect the people. As far as the larger issues with son of the POTUS, good luck getting him charged for any crimes. This is were my faith in our justice system fails me. I think I would take whatever win I could get at this point.
The form itself is stupid, but it is a government form. DUH!
Nevertheless, Hunter is guilty. A conviction will show the true colors of the Dems.
Lol, like trump.
Fuck off libtard, if you can’t see what the Biden criminal organization has done to this country you are simply cannon fodder at some point you ignorant clown.
I agree with Iraqveteran8888. All gun laws are unconstitutional. We should have to get permission from the government to own firearms. Even convicted felons who served their time should be able to own firearms and vote.
To lie on a 4473 is too perjury ones self. Hunter lied. To use illegal narcotics is a federal crime and sometimes a state and local crime. Hunter admitted in a book to using several types of illegal narcotics in the same time period as purchasing a firearm. Marijuana is still a federal crime but no longer a state crime. To lie to a federal agent or lie on a federal form is a federal crime, General Flynn was set up on such a false federal crime crime charge of lying to a federal agent. The criminals in the Barry Soetoro Administration were the real criminal liars. So I guess the question is, does Heller and Bruen negate a federal charge of perjury for Hunter?
The use of illegal drugs is not a federal crime. It’s a state crime. Trafficking across state lines is a federal crime.the possession and use of marijuana is a federal crime still but legal in some states. But lying on the 4473 form, which I consider unconstitutional, is a crime. And it’s not going away and other people have been convicted of lying.Hell ATF is visiting people who buy two guns at the same time which is allowed. If they don’t like it, take the second gun part off the damn form. I’d like to go down to Macys in downtown NYC and buy a couple potato diggers like they did during the Spanish American war when some parents went and bought two for their son in the aRough Riders Wonder if atf visited them because they bought two?
I agree the law should be changed, but until it is, it should be equal treatment under the law. Hunter and Joe have already been protected from the consequences of their corruption by the Democrats in Congress and the JD. In the case of the gun charges, I would go to prison if I did what he did, and so should he.
Here it is, if the ordinary average garden variety citizen can be charged with a felony then so should the son of a public servant.
Hunter Biden is guilty as charged. He filled out the form, signed it, therefore he is truly responsible for any and all statements. Iraqveteran8888 is wrong!
Two tier legal system ( one for Democrats and one for Republicans), wait for the final verdict. After the trial is time to get upset and how to fix it for the future. YMMV
Pump the Brakes, there Fransise,
It can get emotional,& we’re not alone.
The 4473 mite be illegal, but that’s an answer to a question that wasn’t asked.
He Lied, & he needs to do the time. Jus like anyone else.
(Not withstanding the facts & other evidence of concidered.)
There’s a lot of people that have to make This system operate & it only takes one POS to clog it up with their tyrannical bais .
My point: find HB Guilty he walks with a Brandon pardon.
Find him not Guilty & all that is a freaking talking point to our advantage in some court case in the future that we’ll never hear about. Blah blah.
Sorry 88, I hear where your coming from,but I’d have to take sides with Emotional Fransice , but not for same reasons! Lol
“Pray for our Enemies”
Cause God’s gonna get Me devil on them soon.
“Capt” Bannon”🥴
If he isn’t convicted, sentenced the same as any of us nobodies would be and made to serve his sentence just like we would be, it’s further proof that there is no justice under this tyrannical leftist regime.
Given this rationale, the ATF should be dissolved…. as should several other Government ABC organizations….
All Points valid BUT this case is not about the constitutionality if these points, this is about the LAWS WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW, the laws EVERY other gun owner has to follow by force of LAW! Scumbag biden needs to feel the pain anyone of us would if we were charged. ATF just killed a man over bullshit, selling personal property and no ones cares! Argue the 4473 to the SCOTUS and have it thrown out or validated, same with illicit drugs and every other law we don’t agree with, maybe start with the NFA?? Till then Hunter can dry out in prison!
The law that is in place will need to go through the courts to be nullified based on Bruen. However, it is currently in place and Hunter violated that law. Any regular citizen would be imprisoned already. He did it. He knowingly lied and knew he was breaking the law. The actual drug use when he purchased is a separate charge. There is still the charge of lying on the federal form. The question is, if it is found to be unconstitutional under the Bruen ruling, will others who were convicted be set free? If it is unconstitutional now, it has always been unconstitutional.
Dont convict Hunter till after the election, if he is convicted before election his Father will just use his Presidential Pardon !
So nothing will be accomplished….
What a crock of crap!!!!!!
Excellent point. There are much bigger issues here than spanking the smartest man our president knows.
First and foremost we want the Bruen decision to be employed as per the Supreme Court and not bastardized as some lower courts have done. Thats way more significant than seeking retribution for Hunter. Regardless I think by now we should be able to recognize a show trial as we’ve be exposed to them since Jan 6th.
More Judicial theatre.
There was also no law in 1791 preventing a scizophrenic from buying a gun. That doesn’t mean any current law that does prevent it is somehow unconstitutional. As someone once said, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. It is absurd to suggest that gun ownership by drug addicts and scizophrenics is protected by the 2nd Amendment, just as it would be absurd to suggest that defamation is protected by the First Amendment. The word “people” whose rights are protected by the Bill of Rights does not refer to absolutely everyone regardless of age, condition, circumstance, country of residence, citizenship, state of disease or criminality, etc.
If HB were to be aquitted and the form 4473 and all other such federal regulations ruled unconstitutional I would consider it a fair trade. However, anything short is nonsense. If you or I did it we’re going to be prosecuted.
His defense is barking up the wrong tree anyway IMHO. The best defense theory is, ironically, a 5th amendment one not a second amendment one.
“You may not like what I’m about to say, but Hunter Biden is innocent.”
You’re right; I don’t like what you say, but you’re entitled to your opinion. Simply said, there are certain types of individuals with certain kinds of behaviors that should not qualify to own firearms. One specific type in particular comes to mind–anyone like Hunter Biden. Liars, thieves, substance abusers, and the mentally ill should not be allowed to own firearms. Dangerous individuals should not have access to weapons; people who, by their very nature, are a threat to law-abiding citizens. Convicted felons are currently included, and rightfully so. Give them time. They’re not finished with Hunter. He will be a convicted felon in the not-to-distant future.
The issues brought in defense, I would agree, are valid, but they are NOT the issue nor subject to be determined by this case. The GCA 1968, the NICS system nor the 4473 form are at issue, here.
If Hunter Biden is found not guilty then all citizens found guilty of lying on the gun buying form should be freed from prison, have those records removed from their files and be recompensed for the time they wre incarcerated. We all know that papa Joe will pardon and release Hunter if he is convicted.
Also if he skates it sets a path for other drug addicts to purchase a firearm. Some addicts that wouldn’t lie on the form out of fear will then not have to worry about it.
I understand his reasoning but that’s only for the other tier of the “Just us” system. Laws don’t apply if you are a Democrat. The laws will be bent and Ignored. He will skate as usual.
guilty no if and or buts, 888 might have a point but then there is millions of people that have been found guilty of the same crime that will need to be set free. And that will not happen cause there name is not biden.
show me where fucking a porn star is illegal
show me where said porn star shakes you down for money and you pay it is illegal
show me where you put a value on something you own and is contested by a stranger is illegal
show me where wanting a vote recount is illegal
iraqi vet must be a biden voter
Iraqi Vet has alot of videos and he is on the side of the 2A. He does NOT support Biden at all. What he is saying is that under the Bruen and Heller cases, the charges against Hunter are not based on the test of text and history going back to the time of 1791. Will the Heller and Bruen secure a not guilty verdict for Hunter? Probably NOT but the fix is in one way or another or the defense would have cut a deal by now. The PICA (Protect Illinois Communties Act) also defy Heller and Bruen and the USSC are slow to hear any cases despite the clear violations of those two case histories.
Just like you point out, the un-Constitutional case against Trump made it through state courts even though there was no case. Now, Hunter can be found guilty despite legal precedent under Heller and Bruen . The jury will probably go easy on Hunter and the “no one is above the law” BS will be tossed around for a couple more news cycles.
and the punishment’s were swift and harsh, not rewards like now!
Diaper donnie was not found guilty on anything you listed cleetus, pay attention.
adults are talking here, so go back to diddling your pickle!
“Hardtimez” huh, is that how you feel at the grocery store and in the gas station lines? You better hope your CHOMO leader drops dead soon before all the corners are taken with illegal imigrant pan handlers as he bankrupts the country while plunging the US into a two front nuclear war. “America is back.”
It’s NOT just me, check the record. It was Taiwanese commentator Shuai Hua-ming (former KMT) who reported that the Fake POTUS (genuine POS) (#46 your guy) is wear diapers because he soils himself so often and falls down to reveal his nasty back side. According to many sources, including the Taiwanese press, (the nation which may soon face an invasion from China) is counting on a senile, self soiling, old pervert. The latest reports are that he had another smelly event Normandy, just like at the Vatican et cetera. You can even see that Jill hates his guts but like so many others she is tethered to this corpse. Jill had to bring her hand to her face to keep from vomitting. Macron could hardly sit next to him. Vive la France
Yeah, things are just fine.
You really are clueless, how do you even remember to breath when you are an imbecile such as yourself? Pedo Joe will be off to the old folks home soon.
I’m not a lawyer and so I guess that the Heller case seems to be the first case of text and history while Bruen reaffirmend the earlier decision.
I would wait to hear the historical and legal arguments before I cast my formed my final opinion but yes, all federal gun laws seem to fail the 1791 test according to the Bruen decision. At the same time, IRS is un-Consititutional but I still file my taxes (for now).