Michigan State Senate votes to approve bill for “red flag” laws. (Photo: WOODTV)
The Michigan State Senate this week continued its efforts to infringe on citizens’ 2A rights. On Wednesday, Senate Democrats passed another constitutionally dubious firearm regulation bill, a so-called “red flag” law.
The legislation passed along party lines with a vote of 20-17. This is the third major gun reform package state Democrats have pushed through in the wake of the MSU shooting. The previous two, focused on “universal” background checks and “safe storage” of firearms, were signed by Gov. Whitmer last week.
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Moreover, this legislation is the first of a four-bill package to institute firearm confiscation laws. The other three bills are expected to hit the Senate Floor today. They extend “red flag” infringements by removing a person’s right to buy a firearm if they are under such orders (HB4146), remove fees from “red flag” petitions (HB 4147), and impose penalties against individuals who violate a “red flag” order (HB 4148).
Under the proposed “red flag” bill, courts have the ability to issue protection orders that involve the confiscation of firearms against individuals they deem to be a risk to themselves or others.
Additionally, a spouse, neighbor, family member, or even an ex-spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend can instigate the court review. After the order, an individual has 24 hours to surrender their firearms. After which, law enforcement will seize them.
Only after an order is issued will the person be able to request a hearing for the court to reconsider their decision and reinstitute their rights.
Sen. Mallory McMorrow sponsored the bill. She claims that the bill will save lives.
In a previous statement to The Detroit News, McMorrow claimed, “These laws will help prevent tragedies before they occur while maintaining due process, by allowing law enforcement to temporarily remove firearms from individuals who pose a risk to themselves or others.”
Opposition to “Red Flag” Gun Control
Opponents of the bill claim otherwise. Presque Isle Sheriff Joe Brewbaker, one of the officials that may be forced to carry out the unconstitutional confiscation, stated Monday, “These laws trample all over the constitutional rights of the people that I’ve sworn to protect.”
Tom Lambert, the legislative director of Michigan Open Carry, stated, “Everybody agrees that at some point, somebody can be a danger to themselves. The issue is at what point do we consider a danger to themselves.”
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Further, Lambert claims that Michigan’s version of a red flag law is too broad. He wants the bar to be set high before a judge grants the order.
“The higher the threshold, the more due process there is and the more constitutional it is,” Lambert told WILX News.
The Next Step for Michigan Gun Confiscation Laws
Michigan will join 19 other states to institute ‘red flag’ laws.
This bill is the main proposal of the three-bill package. Having passed the Senate, the legislation is expected to hit Gov. Whitmer’s desk soon, followed by the others as they are approved.
Additionally, Gov. Whitmer told The Detroit News she is looking forward to singing the “red flag” bills.
After being signed, the new laws will go into effect early next year.
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Wake up people!!! These so called “Red Flag” laws are nothing more than gun confiscation in disguise. No discussion, no recourse, no argument, no time frame when firearms will be returned. I guarantee once they grab them they are gone. Never again will a person who loses their guns in this manner will they be able to ever own another firearm for any reason. This is the most dangerous legislation I have ever heard of being passed into law. What happens when they decide they don’t like bibles? Or school books or knives or whatever. These same laws will be used to take them away. This is incredibly scary.
When is the Supreme Court going to hear these cases and strike down all “red flag” laws? I wrote my congressman and asked him about a law that would put those who violate the Constitution by writing, supporting, voting or signing into law a bill that is deemed Un-Constitutional in prison. Just think right now our prisons would be full of mostly democrat politicians (and a few RINOs) who supported a law that is contrary to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. As it is right now they are free to infringe away and not one thing happens to them. They should go through a hardship just the way their un-constitutional bills do for us normal folk.
What about the inevitable false flag reports? The US deep state knows how useful false flags are to eliminate rivals and change the environment.
So if red flags are to become law there should also be language in the bills to protect innocent victims of this court room SWATing. All red flag reports should require investigations to determine the validity of the reports and perhaps the source of the report. Any false reporter should be subject to the full weight of the criminal and civil law.
Alright, Kane. You bring up some good points. How can we balance getting guns out of the hands of dangerous persons in a timely manner against the rigors of due process? Just about every government program and benefit sees some abuse – how can we improve red flag laws to protect public safety and prevent abuse of the system by bad actors? Let’s all work together to make red flag laws work for everyone!
We don’t bluedouche it/clown, we don’t circumvent the the constitution you lefty twit, you let due process do it’s thing.
It will sooooo kool when the good people finally remove those pesky Amendments like the 6th Amendment and the right to face one’s accuser.
Totally un-Constitutional, will end up in court wasting taxpayers money and time, money and time that could be used for pro-American ideas. This dangerous bill signed by a worthless governor will most likely end up with once law abiding American citizens getting killed. The treasonist governor and legislators that brought forth this bill should be held accountable.
ALL OF YOU LITTLE SATANIC NAZI WANNABE POWER HAPPY CONTROL FREAK HUMAN GIVEN government JOB TITLED TERRORIST TYRANT CRIMINALS, TRY YOUR LITTLE FAKE INFRINGING TYRANNICAL VIOLATION of the PEOPLE’S GOD GIVEN NATURAL BORN CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED INALIENABLE RIGHTS SO-CALLED CONFISCATION (ACTUALLY THEFT OF ANOTHER PERSONS PROPERTY) The ONLY THING YOU LITTLE SATANIC NAZI WANNABE POWER HAPPY CONTROL FREAK HUMAN GIVEN government JOB TITLED TERRORIST TYRANT CRIMINAL CUNTS WILL GET IS A BULLET THROUGH YOUR TYRANNICAL HEADS, a NOOSE AROUND YOUR NECKS, and YOU SWINGING FROM A PUBLIC LIGHT POLE. I’LL GLADLY SEND EVERY ONE of YOU SATANIC ANTICHRIST C0CKSUCKERS STRAIGHT TO HELL, WHERE YOU ALL CAN GET AN EARLY START SUCKING OFF YOUR MASTER SATAN for ETERNITY.
All part of the communist (aka Democrat) plan to disarm America so they can impose their totalitarian agenda. “Shall not be infringed” means just what it says. Shame on the people of Michigan for allowing tyrants in their government to deny them of their God-given and Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. We permit such tyranny at our own peril.
I am an old timer by any measure, and I have seen pendulum swings from one group to another as some of us continue to exercise our possibly only real power we have left, and it has lasted since our original forefathers drew up a binding set of laws and rules and regulations for this freedom loving country to follow. Some swings were good, some not so good, but all were eventually decided with the “REAL POWER” that every freedom loving American citizen has at their disposal. That is our VOTE!! I have heard and have seen probably every possible excuse for a person NOT to get out and cast their vote for whomever they choose, whether it be for local, statewide, or National needs, we ALL have the ultimate POWER of our one Vote to decide for better or worse who will decide how we, as a nation, will be governed. But I have also noticed that there has been a subtle swing in the way an election is run, how the people learn of the candidates’ qualities, experience, or plans for the nation, and it has gradually, over the last few generations, migrated over to what we are experiencing now in the way our elections are run today. We all can see it, we all can sympathize with one or another side or “promises” of one candidate or another but, at the end of the day, it all comes down to YOUR vote and MY vote and ensuring that any election is run in a legal and honest manner by all concerned. There isn’t enough space on this message board for anyone to delve into this mass migration of present day political events affecting ALL of our lives but being “installed” by rather unscrupulous means without strong critique EVERY level and at all steps of challenge in the “Due Process” that is supposed to take place as one of the “Checks and Balances” implanted in our original documents of Freedom after our 1st battle against tyrannical governments throughout the world. WE set precedent, WE decided what was allowed and what was risky and all the other decisions down through the years to KEEP ourselves and our country FREE!!
Just one old man’s opinion of the many freedoms of which we as “modern” Americans seem to take more and more for granted. There are 2 “slogans” that I will ALWAYS remember when thinking about our history and both of them came to be within many of even the younger voters of this still “free” nation’s recollection. One is “Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!” and the other is “Don’t EVER Forget”, both of which had more effect on the entire world and both exhibited the steadfastness of this nation to keep our population FREE and act as a warning to any and ALL that the United States of America is not to be challenged by ANY other group who thinks that they have a right to step on us or involve themselves in the operation of the Government of the United States of America.
I suggest that all gun-owners LEAVE Michigan, as fast as possible! (But they won’t! A couple of years from now we will be hearing all the reports about the poor farmers and homeowners who get dragged-off by the cops, because someone with a GRUDGE reported them!) Guilty until Proven Innocent!
The RIGHT (given by God) to bear arms shall not be infringed. This is by the very definition an infringement upon your rights. Criminals don’t care about you laws, which is why they hold the title criminal. This title is indeed shared by those creating and voting for these bills.
“After the order, an individual has 24 hours to surrender their firearms. After which, law enforcement will seize them.”
Be sure the barrels are red hot.
“ Additionally ……… a neighbor …….. can instigate the court review .”
Really ?
Sounds like a good way to settle a score over the height
of the neighbor’s grass , or even dog deification .
I’m sure these come with a “ no-knock warrant “ .
Liberals are not interested in saving lives. If they wanted to save millions of innocent lives a year, then ban abortion across all the United States. Very similar how BLM is only interested when a white person (or a cop) kills a black person. They are not interested in the 85% of black murders committed by other blacks.
It is NOT about lives saved… that is a lie. They want control and submission to their ideology. Red flag laws will be abused to remove guns from opponents and (to eventually) remove gun rights from everyone. To liberal ideologs, everyone who owns a gun is a gun nut (fantasizing about killing or a paranoid schizophrenic) and thus they should have their guns rights removed to protect themselves and society. (Liberal gun grab completed!)
This law will be challenged all the way to the Supreme court and will be overturned.
Come and take it!
See there will be a smaller population with all the big tough comments on here.
dog gone these left wing Democrats, springboarding off the crap Trump was initiating. Goverment wants us disarmed, wake up folks
MICHIGAN !!!
One more state I’ll never have to visit …
We have politicians who fail to look at the root cause of these shootings. They only want to blame an inanimate object. We stopped the use of sanctuaries for mentally unstable individuals. These were individuals who were deemed a danger to themselves or society. We have a large number of individuals who are bi-polar, depressed, schizophrenic and other forms of mental instability. This is the cause of our crime.
Those things actually are not the main cause of crime. Only a pretty small percentage of crime is related to actual mental illnesses. Most criminals are just plain A-holes who believe that it’s okay to take advantage of innocent people.
Red flag laws put gun owners (citizens) and law enforcement are risk, for no Constitutional reason. Legislators, not so much. Require the legislators to confiscate the guns in person.
I’m sure this won’t apply to criminals since that will violate their rights!!!
Thats why they call it “The Criminal Justice System”
Red flag of a suicidal person will just be a different method of that person killing themselves. IE. jumping, walking into traffic, and many other methods. Why didn’t that chick tell someone her dad had issues. Note they focused on suicide and not someone who actually shot a victim. Reporting truth benders.
Red Flag laws are Unconstitutional.
What about cars? They can definitely be used as deadly weapons. And private ownership of jet planes? 9-11. And will citizens have to do background checks for buying kitchen cutlery? Hammers and screwdrivers may also be used as weapons. What about youngsters buying a baseball bat or slingshot? All weapons.
Anyone can use nearly anything as a weapon and many are trained in using their bodies as weapons. All should be restricted or confiscated under this line of thought. Get out of Michigan if you live there or get rid of your government. This sounds as cooky as Californians.
Time to move to another state.
More unconstitutional bullshit from the left, the democrat party is un-American , they are the enemy of a free society and a free people.
Notice how the anti-gun crowd Always couch their 2nd A. infringements as “measures that will save lives,” with absolutely no proof of that. Their methodology is akin to a flesh-eating bacteria that slowly progresses until there’s nothing left.
A article said that the black shooter at the college in Michigan had written he hated white people. Some say he was a felon, so how did he get a handgun?
How will gun storage laws stop crazies from shooting at people?
You’ve got this group of hysterical , unstable women, MDA, claiming that illegal “red flag laws” will help save children. How?
And they always claim it’s worth it to ban guns if it saves only one child life.
What about automobiles? Car accidents kill over 50,000 a year.
Illegal drugs now kill over 125,000 a year. No mention of that.
Insects kill from 100 to 200 a year.
Train accidents kill 2,000 a year.
Dog attacks kill 100 to 200 a year.
Cigarettes kill over 450,000 people a year.
But what about store owners using a gun in protecting their business?
What do people do in a home invasion without a gun for protection? The criminals are not only going to rob you but rape your daughter and wife.
So what do you do with no gun for home protection? Cry?
Articles have said that if there is enough to issue a red flag, usually there is enough for police to arrest the person.
I can see these politicians using red flag laws to lock up people in jail who don’t support them or protestors.
These far leftist power crazed politicians won’t stop until they have banned and confiscated all guns in America.
I’ve read these gun banning cults say that they only want to ban ” assault rifles”. Okay let’s say that they did. Do you really believe that’s all they want and then stop? No, they want to ban all firearms!
Back in 1934, during the FDR administration, there were politicians who wanted to ban all handguns ( to stop ” holdup men” and ” bootleggers”)
After the Kennedy assassination in 1963, there were politicians who wanted to ban all bolt action rifles! Yup, ban all bolt action rifles!!
During the debate on the illegal 1968 gun control act, there were politicians who again wanted to ban all handguns, calling them ” Saturday night specials”!
In the 1980’s, after watching too many TV shows like Miami Vice, the far leftist politicians wanted to ban all Uzi’s.
When Glock handguns first came out in the 1980’s on the market, the gun banning cults said they were made to hijack airplanes! What nonsense. Glocks are now used by 50% of law enforcement in America.
Now in the 2,000’s, the far leftist power crazed politicians want to ban all semi auto rifles.
Article have said that all rifles are only used in 400 shootings a year.
First and feet kill over 2,000 a year.
Even school sports kill up to 100 students a year!
In Canada, their power crazed dictator wants to ban so called ” assault guns”. This includes all semi auto’s,
lever action rifles that hold over 10 rounds ( you see, even lever action rifles are now included as ” assault rifles)
and get this, he wants to ban guns that are ” too powerful “, like bolt action rifles chambered in 458 Win. Mag, and the 460 WeatherBy! He calls these rifles “assault rifles” !
I seriously doubt that a Weatherby Mk5 bolt action rifle in 460 WeatherBug has ever been used in a crime!
The gun banning groups in America are watching what Canada does. So they can copy Canada gun laws.
Some cities have even banned citizens from owning just one round of 50 cal. BMG ammo, even for collection, politicians say this will stop crime. Huh??
These gun banning groups are run and funded by Michael Bloomberg, George Soros, the Chinese government and Russia.
They will use their money and political influence to ban all firearms in America!
The Brady group has now joined up with Mexico government and other foreign countries to sue and put gun manufacturers in America out of business.
They are also sueing gun shops in Arizona blaming them for crime in Mexico. The Brady group is a traitor to America and all Americans!
AOC and the squad and Letitta James want to repeal the 2nd amendment.
AOC and the squad want to abolish the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, claiming it’s “racist” !
AOC and the squad want to turn America into a communist “workers paradise”.
Support and protect your Right to keep and own all types of firearms magazines and accessories.
Don’t let the evil, Satan worshipping, power crazed far leftist politicians to ban and confiscate our guns.
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